Corona circus is how we know we are already in the 7 years of tribulation.

Rapture is from the greek Bible, The word rapturo, meaning to violently snatch out.

The pre Trib rapture was taught by Iraenus and early church fathers, who learned from Paul and his direct students.

Constantine could not defeat Christianity and finally decided to make Christianity the state religion. He mixed it with paganism and used it for control and power. The RCC became the satanic monstrosity we see today.

They suppressed all prophecy, including the pre Trib rapture, the Trib itself, the Millennium. When the reformation happened, denominations broke off and kept much of the RCC heresies.

Darby didn't start pre Trib. Paul did, the early church fathers. The RCC, ie satan, hates the Bible and the truth.

Sorry.

This link makes the case that Iraenius believed the church will go through the tribulation as one last test.

[link to www.alankurschner.com (secure)]

Don't worry. The earth is cleansed. Actually they will not even need to burn firewood for seven years because they can burn all the scrounged up weapons will be burned.

Ezekiel 39:9 And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears, and they shall burn them with fire seven years: 10 So that they shall take no wood out of the field, neither cut down any out of the forests; for they shall burn the weapons with fire: and they shall spoil those that spoiled them, and rob those that robbed them, saith the Lord GOD.

The Egyptian, Mayan, Aztec, Olmec, Hindoo, Buddhist, Toltec, Persian, Sumerian, Babylonian, Druidic, American Natives, and now i notice the Gobekli -Tepi T-shaped figure monoliths... that is very on point to me, it is global

A deity
A tree
A stylised tree
A deity symbolised by that, depicted as the tree of 5he knowledge of good and evil, but this tree was Satan not the Spirit of LIFE, THE TREE oF LIFE, OF TRUTH, LOVE shared by The Father and his Son, the firstborn of all creation,

This stylised tree symbol is NOT for LIFE, it is DEATH SPIRIT, AGAINST LIFE! It is a mystic, symbolic representation of the "tree" who tempted and lied about being able to give them special knowledge better than they could imagine.
Not the Tree Of Life, (Who is the True Only Messiah)

But the other tree in the garden, the Spirit Being, "Tree" of he who used bad mystic knowledge, forbidden, occult knowledge of how to exploit and manipulate the principles of the universe to his own agenda - power - to inflict abuse, misery, death on the CREATOR'S beloved creation.

the mystic knowledge tree is bad, bad, vile and horrid
His symbol is well-known by all and used by practically all peoples

I decided to start this thread as I recently realized that, either because the book of revelations was truly prophetic, or because it’s being used as a script by the ruling elites, the whole corona circus, and specifically since the second half of 2020, can be considered to be the start of the 7 years of tribulation.

Since around 2004 I was pretty sure that starting 2012 things were going to start changing at an ever increasing and scary pace, and I think is hard to disagree with that idea looking backwards.

After 2012 I was in the “any minute now” mind set, meaning that I was looking out for the beginning of the total collapse of society. I was never a prepper or thought that I needed to be doing anything else than being aware that things could change quickly at any moment, and be mentally prepared for that, as being materially prepared would be impossible if anything remotely as bad as many of the potential scenarios that were being pictured, came to actually pass. Being mentally prepared to face whatever came with the right attitude was what I thought was the best way to prepare. I resume this with the following picture:

:attitudeisall:

I felt that things kept getting worse but never at a pace that could wake up the masses. By mid 2019 I was kind of amazed we had gotten so far, while the pace of change had been noticeably speeding up, but yet people was more concerned about trying to keep focused in their materialism and consumerism, as if nothing was happening and nothing else mattered. I was personally doing well on business (had been already for a few years) and for a while I thought things were going to keep at the same pace and I better enjoyed while it lasted.

By late 2019 the first chatter about a new virus here at GLP called my attention, but is wasn’t until when the Chinese started bulldozing roads to keep people locked up by the end of January 2020 that it became clear to me something was going to happen. And happen it did.

I have to admit I was concerned about the virus itself for most of 2020 and even most of the first half of 2021. For me it was clear it was artificial from the get go, and I did all I could to avoid catching it. I was never afraid of dying quickly from it, it was clear that it wasn’t very lethal, but of whatever it could cause long term. Long Covid sufferers kind of confirmed to me that it could be a long term burden.

While all this was unfolding I was hearing about the development of vaccines and I simply couldn’t really give those news any credence,
and I thought it was simply to appease the masses with a false promise of safety. I could not see any experimental vaccine to be ready for trials in less than three years. I kept thinking all the hype around vaccines was just that, hype.

When they started vaccinating people in late 2020 trials, I was still baffled than anyone would willingly submit to being a guinea pig. I decided instantaneously I was not going to get a jab and would wait a few years and see what happened to the jabbers until even considering getting one, and that was the extent of it for me, no jab until I have seen it was safe, period, whatever the time it might take, I had already been successful at not getting the virus so why would I take a chance with a rushed vaccine?

And that was me for the first half of 2021. I started to see the reports of side effects and deaths and I thought that it was a wonder that they weren’t more with such a rushed product, and felt reassured I had made the right choice.

My parents went for the sinovac shots in February and March 2021. I had strongly advised them to hold out until more was known, but they were wanting to “back to normal” so went along. They kept telling me that they were ok and the shots were safe and I kept telling them that I wasn’t going to for the foreseeable future. They were upset with me but I didn’t care. My wife and me were going to hold as long as necessary. The Covid passport was just beginning to be talked about and we didn’t really care as traveling was out of the table for the time being.

It wasn’t until the beginning of June 2021 that things took a twist for me. I had seen the claims of magnetic effects from the shots since late April, but found them to lack merit upon a cursory look (“Tik Tokkers looking for clicks” was my assessment). But then one day of early June,
my wife comments me that the Instagram page of a doctor we followed for his holistic take on medicine and was relatively famous in Chile, and often invited to TV, had been completely scrubbed, and several social media were talking about him being an irresponsible jackass and a clown for trying to get people to doubt about vaccination. There wasn’t much mention of what he had said or done, so I begun looking what could be the sin he had committed and soon found out. (Continues...)

The Tribulation Period of 7 years coincides with the & yr treaty the Anti Christ signs with Israel, after his army puts Jerusalem to siege(Mat 24).
We are a long, long way from fulfilling the prophecies required just to get to that point.

Study your Bible some more. Guess less about the meaning of Prophecy

I've posted this before and it has not met with a very friendly attitude: (ie people say I'm lying, but I'm not)

we are unvaxed and find that magnets stick around the collarbone

and, in fact, long ago, years ago, a person in our family showed me that magnets stuck to his fingers.

I've posted this before and it has not met with a very friendly attitude: (ie people say I'm lying, but I'm not)

we are unvaxed and find that magnets stick around the collarbone

and, in fact, long ago, years ago, a person in our family showed me that magnets stuck to his fingers.

This link makes the case that Iraenius believed the church will go through the tribulation as one last test.

[link to www.alankurschner.com (secure)]

Also Paul taught the resurrection and being caught up after the resurrection. He believed we all received new bodies first. The word harpazo in Greek is the word for being caught up and this happens after the dead in Christ rise from their graves.

I'd suggest looking up some of Ken Johnson's work, Bible scholar. He has a youtube channel. He is a Bible scholar and an expert on ancient literature. He specializes in prophecy, he is an expert on the Dead Sea Scrolls.

Polycarp taught pre Trib. Paul did as well. 2 Thessalonians was written because false teachers were going around Thessalonica teaching that the Rapture, the snatching away. had happened and they missed it. Paul replied that the restrainer had to he removed before the man of lawlessness could be revealed, and that they had not missed it. This tells us two thing. The Thessalonian church believe the Rapture was imminent. They also believed it was possible to miss it. Paul had taught them these things and they were questioning him and he responded.

The Body of Christ is restraining evil in the world right now. Once it is gone, the world will grow incredibly dark and evil. A person can miss the Rapture, per Paul, so it is not the final resurrection. That is where God brings every sinner back that ever sinned and went to hell, and every knee shall bow and admit Jesus is Lord. This is at the Great White Throne judgment at the end if Christ's 1000 year Millennial reign.

The catching away of the Body of Christ at the end of the age of grace is clear. Catholicism demonized literal prophecy and spiritualized all of it. So many current denominations believe a mix and match version of a figurative Millennium, a post Trin rapture, they believe that we are in the 1000 years, they believe the rapture is the last resurrection. It is a real mess, due to RCC demonic teachings. Just like indulgences, confession booths, nuns, etc, and all other non Biblical nonsense.

This is almost impossible to see for those raised and lost in the RCC, or those raised in Methodist, Church of Christ,etc etc.

Get a King James Bible. Read it and study it. Divide what is for Is--el and what is for the Body of Christ. Study the age of Grace. Keep it all in context.

It is all plain. But the plain sense becomes nonsense when it is all spiritualized. And the only reason to spiritualize it is in order to cause fear, anxiety and to control. Which is what religion does.

Christianity is not religion, it is a person, Jesus Christ. He said, it is finished. Religion has perverted His name and life to a sickening degree.

Renounce all false teachings.
Renounce and depart from Babylon.

Biblical timelines of "End Times" are man made.
Powerful men have used mega churches, men like Darby & Hal Lindsey to influence millions.
Using Babylon business formulas in popular ministries - to standardize a set of false timelines. And a false gospel and an "image" to worship. Years of indoctrination convinced many of these manmade corruptions.

Depart from religious Babylon and then, eyes & ears will open. Staying in corrupt teachings is to willingly accept them.

5/g is a frequency. It is here, now.

Lawlessness. Corruption. Inequity.
The mystery of inequity comes into fullness... maximum corruptness and then, things will radically move forward.

When this frequency "speaks" or is "revealed" to the entire world then - those who believe in lies will submit to it.
Scenes depicting this event are in movies.
Being able to overcome this assault is essential.
Divine intervention will be given to those who qualify as worthy. Jesus is the judge who decides who is worthy.

"For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the Spirit you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough".
Cor. 11
Paul writes this to warn of a "different Jesus" and different or modified gospel message that is easily accepted by the majority.
Jesus said, "FEW" will seek the Narrow Way that leads to Life. FEW love Truth and few seek TRUTH.

The mega churches & ministries teach; once you say an abc sinners prayer, you'll always be saved. They are preaching a different gospel. They tell you to pray to a "different Jesus" and most accept that false image as the real One.
It isn't. It's a false religious image.

Paul teaches what Jesus said.
Those preachers who modify what Paul said are exactly what was warned about by both Jesus and Paul.
Both warning of wolves who are preaching manmade religion and false doctrines that were contrived to fool .. the foolish sheep.
The parable of the foolish virgins - they do not have enough oil in their lamps for this event.

This is it.
This 5/g "frequency" is going to separate those who believe in lies and those who love TRUTH.

Renounce all false teachings.
Renounce and depart from Babylon.

Biblical timelines of "End Times" are man made.
Powerful men have used mega churches, men like Darby & Hal Lindsey to influence millions.
Using Babylon business formulas in popular ministries - to standardize a set of false timelines. And a false gospel and an "image" to worship. Years of indoctrination convinced many of these manmade corruptions.

Depart from religious Babylon and then, eyes & ears will open. Staying in corrupt teachings is to willingly accept them.

5/g is a frequency. It is here, now.

Lawlessness. Corruption. Inequity.
The mystery of inequity comes into fullness... maximum corruptness and then, things will radically move forward.

When this frequency "speaks" or is "revealed" to the entire world then - those who believe in lies will submit to it.
Scenes depicting this event are in movies.
Being able to overcome this assault is essential.
Divine intervention will be given to those who qualify as worthy. Jesus is the judge who decides who is worthy.

"For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the Spirit you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough".
Cor. 11
Paul writes this to warn of a "different Jesus" and different or modified gospel message that is easily accepted by the majority.
Jesus said, "FEW" will seek the Narrow Way that leads to Life. FEW love Truth and few seek TRUTH.

The mega churches & ministries teach; once you say an abc sinners prayer, you'll always be saved. They are preaching a different gospel. They tell you to pray to a "different Jesus" and most accept that false image as the real One.
It isn't. It's a false religious image.

Paul teaches what Jesus said.
Those preachers who modify what Paul said are exactly what was warned about by both Jesus and Paul.
Both warning of wolves who are preaching manmade religion and false doctrines that were contrived to fool .. the foolish sheep.
The parable of the foolish virgins - they do not have enough oil in their lamps for this event.

This is it.
This 5/g "frequency" is going to separate those who believe in lies and those who love TRUTH.

Permit an outsider (I don't particularly follow the NT) to ask a question.

"Paul teaches what Jesus said?"

They never met. How would Paul have known what to teach, if that was his intention?

2 thess 2 is a prime example with the flaws of the pretrib doctrine and the belief of imminence.

2 Thess 2 shows that the gathering to Christ cannot happen at anytime like the pre-trib is taught since the falling away and the anti-christ must be revealed first. These are condtions of any rapture being pretrib or posttrib. There is no doctrine of imminence.

Also I do not see any reason why 2 Thess supports a pre-trib. It just as must supports post-trib.

The gathering to Christ from 1 Thess was all about the resurrection which 2 thess furth explains.

Also I do not find anything about Polycarp and pretrib. He does mention that Christ will judge the just and the unjust.


The resurrection of the unjust is the 2nd resurrection. You do not want to be a part of the 2nd resurrection. I do not see where believers in Christ would miss the gathering to Christ. Saints durint the tribulation are believers in Christ along with the 2 witnesses and the 144k. The 2 witness are killed after the tribulation and are resurrection and gathered to Christ(raptured).

Prime example of taking verses out of context. Paul says the Trib cannot begin until the rebellion and the man of lawlessness is revealed. In the next few verses he says that the man of lawlessness cannot be revealed unless the one holding him back is removed, ie the restrainer. This is the Body of Christ.

There are a ton of logical fallacies in pre wrath. Again, if the Thessalonicans believed they missed it, then they had to believe it was imminent and signless, as there was no antichrist revealed at the time they thought they had missed it.

The Bible clearly says the Body of Christ will not go through the wrath of God, and the seven years are plainly God's wrath.

This has been argued to death here and no matter the evidence, just like above, someone says, well, I don't see a pre Trib rapture, regardless of the logical fallacies that a pre or post trib rapture cause.

The important part is to place all our faith in Christ for salvation. That is my final word on it.

Christ met Paul on the road to Damacus. Once Paul was baptized he received the Holy Spirit which taught Paul what to say and what to teach as the Holy Spirit did with all the apostles. That is why their message of God and Christ are all synced.

Logical fallacies a pre wrath or post Trib rapture I meant.