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Antivaxxers - A Question *updated

 
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Aren´t they replaceable?
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what if.....a tracking device or control device.

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What’s funny is 2 years later the death rate is minimal.

Yet now we have all these other issues.

In retrospect. I wish absolutely nothing was done and we just continued our lives.

The only thing the governments have done is make it worse for society.

0.0036 % of the global population was lost to covid. It’s a joke.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77630748


You guys have lost half a million...I mean, that's fucked.

The biggest thing to take a hit was people.

Billions went to corporations, pennies to people at home with no income.
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Aren´t they replaceable?
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Eventually.

But average 18 years for full growth, years for experience, few more for capable experience.
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What’s funny is 2 years later the death rate is minimal.

Yet now we have all these other issues.

In retrospect. I wish absolutely nothing was done and we just continued our lives.

The only thing the governments have done is make it worse for society.

0.0036 % of the global population was lost to covid. It’s a joke.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77630748


You guys have lost half a million...I mean, that's fucked.

The biggest thing to take a hit was people.

Billions went to corporations, pennies to people at home with no income.
 Quoting: Sol-tari


we did not lose a half a million are you insane?

Ill give you an example, Michigan had almost zero reported cases for almost 3 months. (check Bing stats) Biden comes
to visit Michigan's governor, The next day and every day their after Michigan was reporting 4000-5000 new cases per day.

My family works in hospitals they havent seen a covid case in over 3 months.

Its all a fucking lie.
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This is a sticking point for me.

Why are they vaccing their foot soldiers?!

If this thing is a bio weapon, why are they starting with targeting their own grunts?

Government workers, police, military...

These are literally the shield, and the sword, they use on a local and global scale.

I'm unvaxxed, and on the fence.
I have people asking me for my opinion, for themselves and their family.

I can read the science, listen to both sides, but I'm not qualified in the field so sometimes have to rely on logic.

If anyone wants to chime in with some good responses, I'd appreciate it.
 Quoting: Sol-tari


But they AREN'T "vaxxing" their foot soldiers - they're "vaxxing" the multitudes that want choice and believe in freedom and liberty.

You're confusing the positions with the PEOPLE that fill them. Military is a great example - push comes to shove? As many of them will fight FOR the people as against, if not more. Same with police, medical, government - they're mostly just like you and me, punching a clock.

Now, do you for one second thing that Xe (formerly Blackwater) are out getting their shots? No, because THOSE are the REAL minions, the people that will work for TPTB and fire in whatever direction the money men point. Small, well-equipped specialist armies will be MORE than sufficient to deal with the few that resist the poison and survive.

Remember that they clearly tell you who they ARE injecting, but they don't ever mention who they AREN'T. When's the last time you saw the Senate or Congress admit that they aren't required to get jabbed? Or the AU government, etc?

Really, a very simple question and answer. Their foot soldiers are as psycho as they are, and they AREN'T the people that believe in oaths taken.

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what if.....a tracking device or control device.

thinkaboutit
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Your phone/comp/ip gives them not only tracking, but such an incredible amount of data you willingly volunteer.

That perfect bug out location?

You searched it once, years before the bug out idea, to shoe a friend the lake.
That's tucked away somewhere.

I exaggerate and picked bug out for conspiracy enjoyment and leanings, but you get what I mean.
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What’s funny is 2 years later the death rate is minimal.

Yet now we have all these other issues.

In retrospect. I wish absolutely nothing was done and we just continued our lives.

The only thing the governments have done is make it worse for society.

0.0036 % of the global population was lost to covid. It’s a joke.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77630748


You guys have lost half a million...I mean, that's fucked.

The biggest thing to take a hit was people.

Billions went to corporations, pennies to people at home with no income.
 Quoting: Sol-tari


we did not lose a half a million are you insane?

Ill give you an example, Michigan had almost zero reported cases for almost 3 months. (check Bing stats) Biden comes
to visit Michigan's governor, The next day and every day their after Michigan was reporting 4000-5000 new cases per day.

My family works in hospitals they havent seen a covid case in over 3 months.

Its all a fucking lie.
 Quoting: Lord Earl of Greywater


Well perhaps...but I also read accounts from nurses and doctors who claim the exact opposite on different platforms.

I'm not on the ground in either location, so your statement has as much validity as theirs.

Hence my op
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This is a sticking point for me.

Why are they vaccing their foot soldiers?!

If this thing is a bio weapon, why are they starting with targeting their own grunts?

Government workers, police, military...

These are literally the shield, and the sword, they use on a local and global scale.

I'm unvaxxed, and on the fence.
I have people asking me for my opinion, for themselves and their family.

I can read the science, listen to both sides, but I'm not qualified in the field so sometimes have to rely on logic.

If anyone wants to chime in with some good responses, I'd appreciate it.
 Quoting: Sol-tari


I think it’s clear now that the vaccines don’t work. Covid was greatly exaggerated, if it even existed. The sole purpose of covid was to take away our freedoms. Not sure if they are trying to kill off the population, but at the very least it’s a massive money grab by Pfizer and the corrupt politicians. Also, besides the immediate adverse effects the vax could do long term permanent damage to your immune system.
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 Quoting: Lord Earl of Greywater


Regardless of how the raw data appears the unvaccinated are becoming infected, suffering serious illness, and dying at a much higher rate.
 Quoting: Bullsh!t


Regardless of how YOU feel, it's still OUR choice. Get over it Crema da la CRAP.
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This is a sticking point for me.

Why are they vaccing their foot soldiers?!

If this thing is a bio weapon, why are they starting with targeting their own grunts?

Government workers, police, military...

These are literally the shield, and the sword, they use on a local and global scale.

I'm unvaxxed, and on the fence.
I have people asking me for my opinion, for themselves and their family.

I can read the science, listen to both sides, but I'm not qualified in the field so sometimes have to rely on logic.

If anyone wants to chime in with some good responses, I'd appreciate it.
 Quoting: Sol-tari

Because it is about creating Anarchy and Destruction.
You can not create a new building, if an old building is setting in the way.
Even if you only remove part of the Building it is still in the way of building the new one.

So what is the Answer?
Bulldoze (completely destroy) the Old building first, then build the new one.
Which is also what is required to build a NWO or to do the Great Reset.
To destroy the existing Civilization and way of life to make the way for a New way of life and a New civilization.
Understand?

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For it to work a significant portion of the global population has to be gone and the rest have to be under complete control.

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What’s funny is 2 years later the death rate is minimal.

Yet now we have all these other issues.

In retrospect. I wish absolutely nothing was done and we just continued our lives.

The only thing the governments have done is make it worse for society.

0.0036 % of the global population was lost to covid. It’s a joke.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77630748


You guys have lost half a million...I mean, that's fucked.

The biggest thing to take a hit was people.

Billions went to corporations, pennies to people at home with no income.
 Quoting: Sol-tari


2 million have died every year for decades from smoking, the food, water, and building material that cause cancer.

No one gives a shot about covid.

You live in a perpetual state of fear and delusion if you think covid is anything more than a cold.
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 Quoting: Lord Earl of Greywater


Regardless of how the raw data appears the unvaccinated are becoming infected, suffering serious illness, and dying at a much higher rate.
 Quoting: Bullsh!t


You got it, Katipo!

"Regardless of how many FACTS you bother me with, I will make strong statements with no foundation because I FEEL that it's more true than what the actual facts PROVE."

Well done, Pee Pee! Still managing to shill this BS with a straight face.

Kudos, Reno!

penguin
 Quoting: MountainTux NLI


It's obvious you're unfamiliar with fundamental statistical analysis because you would understand that denominators matter.
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What’s funny is 2 years later the death rate is minimal.

Yet now we have all these other issues.

In retrospect. I wish absolutely nothing was done and we just continued our lives.

The only thing the governments have done is make it worse for society.

0.0036 % of the global population was lost to covid. It’s a joke.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77630748


You guys have lost half a million...I mean, that's fucked.

The biggest thing to take a hit was people.

Billions went to corporations, pennies to people at home with no income.
 Quoting: Sol-tari


we did not lose a half a million are you insane?

Ill give you an example, Michigan had almost zero reported cases for almost 3 months. (check Bing stats) Biden comes
to visit Michigan's governor, The next day and every day their after Michigan was reporting 4000-5000 new cases per day.

My family works in hospitals they havent seen a covid case in over 3 months.

Its all a fucking lie.
 Quoting: Lord Earl of Greywater


I drive by a hospital testing center every day and I have never seen a car there. Not one single time.

It’s totally a scam
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This is a sticking point for me.

Why are they vaccing their foot soldiers?!

If this thing is a bio weapon, why are they starting with targeting their own grunts?

Government workers, police, military...

These are literally the shield, and the sword, they use on a local and global scale.

I'm unvaxxed, and on the fence.
I have people asking me for my opinion, for themselves and their family.

I can read the science, listen to both sides, but I'm not qualified in the field so sometimes have to rely on logic.

If anyone wants to chime in with some good responses, I'd appreciate it.
 Quoting: Sol-tari


But they AREN'T "vaxxing" their foot soldiers - they're "vaxxing" the multitudes that want choice and believe in freedom and liberty.

You're confusing the positions with the PEOPLE that fill them. Military is a great example - push comes to shove? As many of them will fight FOR the people as against, if not more. Same with police, medical, government - they're mostly just like you and me, punching a clock.

Now, do you for one second thing that Xe (formerly Blackwater) are out getting their shots? No, because THOSE are the REAL minions, the people that will work for TPTB and fire in whatever direction the money men point. Small, well-equipped specialist armies will be MORE than sufficient to deal with the few that resist the poison and survive.

Remember that they clearly tell you who they ARE injecting, but they don't ever mention who they AREN'T. When's the last time you saw the Senate or Congress admit that they aren't required to get jabbed? Or the AU government, etc?

Really, a very simple question and answer. Their foot soldiers are as psycho as they are, and they AREN'T the people that believe in oaths taken.

penguin
 Quoting: MountainTux NLI


Actually made the headlines here when a Vic judge told them what they could do with that order.
But, we're not all judges with that type of clout.

Interesting idea though. I agree with you largely regarding military/police...but I also remember history. Your own soldiers have charged on protesting vets before.

Would render an extremely large portion of their "weapons" inoperable (everything from say an aircraft carrier to manning a tracking system) which could cause issues...not to mention an extremely dispersed group on various continents of survivors that would need to be dealt with...

Can't have the survivors in Uzbekistan gathering together and raiding the stockpiles of military hardware...that's how you get roving warbands to compete with.

Have some green for being the first well presented argument.
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This is a sticking point for me.

Why are they vaccing their foot soldiers?!

If this thing is a bio weapon, why are they starting with targeting their own grunts?

Government workers, police, military...

These are literally the shield, and the sword, they use on a local and global scale.

I'm unvaxxed, and on the fence.
I have people asking me for my opinion, for themselves and their family.

I can read the science, listen to both sides, but I'm not qualified in the field so sometimes have to rely on logic.

If anyone wants to chime in with some good responses, I'd appreciate it.
 Quoting: Sol-tari


I think it’s clear now that the vaccines don’t work. Covid was greatly exaggerated, if it even existed. The sole purpose of covid was to take away our freedoms. Not sure if they are trying to kill off the population, but at the very least it’s a massive money grab by Pfizer and the corrupt politicians. Also, besides the immediate adverse effects the vax could do long term permanent damage to your immune system.
 Quoting: JB1969


The companies are making good money off the government...but then, they always do so...

It could potentially depending on what you read. Hence my thread
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This is a sticking point for me.

Why are they vaccing their foot soldiers?!

If this thing is a bio weapon, why are they starting with targeting their own grunts?

Government workers, police, military...

These are literally the shield, and the sword, they use on a local and global scale.

I'm unvaxxed, and on the fence.
I have people asking me for my opinion, for themselves and their family.

I can read the science, listen to both sides, but I'm not qualified in the field so sometimes have to rely on logic.

If anyone wants to chime in with some good responses, I'd appreciate it.
 Quoting: Sol-tari

Because it is about creating Anarchy and Destruction.
You can not create a new building, if an old building is setting in the way.
Even if you only remove part of the Building it is still in the way of building the new one.

So what is the Answer?
Bulldoze (completely destroy) the Old building first, then build the new one.
Which is also what is required to build a NWO or to do the Great Reset.
To destroy the existing Civilization and way of life to make the way for a New way of life and a New civilization.
Understand?


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81089494


Perfectly.

But they can't rebuild if the majority of their minions are dead, and the rest are out for blood.

A "whoops, there was a war/incurable plague/giant space ferrets smashed everything" would cut down the numbers and leave a group more likely to follow
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Because it’s not about who lives or who dies.

It’s about forcing Americans to make a decision. And when they won’t comply, and they know they won’t, the military, the hospitals, the education, the supply chain will collapse…

It’s like treating your employees like shot until they quit, they know the slaves will comply, they could care less about that. They want the ones who won’t comply to quit so they can crash the system and blame it on someone else.

Wake up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77630748


So they also kill the ones who protect them and the fancy yacht? Ones who maintain the runways for the private jets and massage them on the beach?

It's also a global thing as well, not just us..
 Quoting: Sol-tari


the ones making this decision have their own private armies that protect them

there are elites so high up the chart that youve never even heard their names
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This is a sticking point for me.

Why are they vaccing their foot soldiers?!

If this thing is a bio weapon, why are they starting with targeting their own grunts?

Government workers, police, military...

These are literally the shield, and the sword, they use on a local and global scale.

I'm unvaxxed, and on the fence.
I have people asking me for my opinion, for themselves and their family.

I can read the science, listen to both sides, but I'm not qualified in the field so sometimes have to rely on logic.

If anyone wants to chime in with some good responses, I'd appreciate it.
 Quoting: Sol-tari


But they AREN'T "vaxxing" their foot soldiers - they're "vaxxing" the multitudes that want choice and believe in freedom and liberty.

You're confusing the positions with the PEOPLE that fill them. Military is a great example - push comes to shove? As many of them will fight FOR the people as against, if not more. Same with police, medical, government - they're mostly just like you and me, punching a clock.

Now, do you for one second thing that Xe (formerly Blackwater) are out getting their shots? No, because THOSE are the REAL minions, the people that will work for TPTB and fire in whatever direction the money men point. Small, well-equipped specialist armies will be MORE than sufficient to deal with the few that resist the poison and survive.

Remember that they clearly tell you who they ARE injecting, but they don't ever mention who they AREN'T. When's the last time you saw the Senate or Congress admit that they aren't required to get jabbed? Or the AU government, etc?

Really, a very simple question and answer. Their foot soldiers are as psycho as they are, and they AREN'T the people that believe in oaths taken.

penguin
 Quoting: MountainTux NLI


Actually made the headlines here when a Vic judge told them what they could do with that order.
But, we're not all judges with that type of clout.

Interesting idea though. I agree with you largely regarding military/police...but I also remember history. Your own soldiers have charged on protesting vets before.

Would render an extremely large portion of their "weapons" inoperable (everything from say an aircraft carrier to manning a tracking system) which could cause issues...not to mention an extremely dispersed group on various continents of survivors that would need to be dealt with...

Can't have the survivors in Uzbekistan gathering together and raiding the stockpiles of military hardware...that's how you get roving warbands to compete with.

Have some green for being the first well presented argument.
 Quoting: Sol-tari


Because it’s not about who lives or who dies.

It’s about forcing Americans to make a decision. And when they won’t comply, and they know they won’t, the military, the hospitals, the education, the supply chain will collapse…

It’s like treating your employees like shot until they quit, they know the slaves will comply, they could care less about that. They want the ones who won’t comply to quit so they can crash the system and blame it on someone else.

Wake up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77630748


So they also kill the ones who protect them and the fancy yacht? Ones who maintain the runways for the private jets and massage them on the beach?

It's also a global thing as well, not just us..
 Quoting: Sol-tari


the ones making this decision have their own private armies that protect them

there are elites so high up the chart that youve never even heard their names
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What’s funny is 2 years later the death rate is minimal.

Yet now we have all these other issues.

In retrospect. I wish absolutely nothing was done and we just continued our lives.

The only thing the governments have done is make it worse for society.

0.0036 % of the global population was lost to covid. It’s a joke.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77630748


You guys have lost half a million...I mean, that's fucked.

The biggest thing to take a hit was people.

Billions went to corporations, pennies to people at home with no income.
 Quoting: Sol-tari


we did not lose a half a million are you insane?

Ill give you an example, Michigan had almost zero reported cases for almost 3 months. (check Bing stats) Biden comes
to visit Michigan's governor, The next day and every day their after Michigan was reporting 4000-5000 new cases per day.

My family works in hospitals they havent seen a covid case in over 3 months.

Its all a fucking lie.
 Quoting: Lord Earl of Greywater


I drive by a hospital testing center every day and I have never seen a car there. Not one single time.

It’s totally a scam
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77630748


There's been one in the town near here for months. Never saw anyone there.

Also seen others that were busy in other towns.
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This is a sticking point for me.

Why are they vaccing their foot soldiers?!

If this thing is a bio weapon, why are they starting with targeting their own grunts?

Government workers, police, military...

These are literally the shield, and the sword, they use on a local and global scale.

I'm unvaxxed, and on the fence.
I have people asking me for my opinion, for themselves and their family.

I can read the science, listen to both sides, but I'm not qualified in the field so sometimes have to rely on logic.

If anyone wants to chime in with some good responses, I'd appreciate it.
 Quoting: Sol-tari


But they AREN'T "vaxxing" their foot soldiers - they're "vaxxing" the multitudes that want choice and believe in freedom and liberty.

You're confusing the positions with the PEOPLE that fill them. Military is a great example - push comes to shove? As many of them will fight FOR the people as against, if not more. Same with police, medical, government - they're mostly just like you and me, punching a clock.

Now, do you for one second thing that Xe (formerly Blackwater) are out getting their shots? No, because THOSE are the REAL minions, the people that will work for TPTB and fire in whatever direction the money men point. Small, well-equipped specialist armies will be MORE than sufficient to deal with the few that resist the poison and survive.

Remember that they clearly tell you who they ARE injecting, but they don't ever mention who they AREN'T. When's the last time you saw the Senate or Congress admit that they aren't required to get jabbed? Or the AU government, etc?

Really, a very simple question and answer. Their foot soldiers are as psycho as they are, and they AREN'T the people that believe in oaths taken.

penguin
 Quoting: MountainTux NLI


Actually made the headlines here when a Vic judge told them what they could do with that order.
But, we're not all judges with that type of clout.

Interesting idea though. I agree with you largely regarding military/police...but I also remember history. Your own soldiers have charged on protesting vets before.

Would render an extremely large portion of their "weapons" inoperable (everything from say an aircraft carrier to manning a tracking system) which could cause issues...not to mention an extremely dispersed group on various continents of survivors that would need to be dealt with...

Can't have the survivors in Uzbekistan gathering together and raiding the stockpiles of military hardware...that's how you get roving warbands to compete with.

Have some green for being the first well presented argument.
 Quoting: Sol-tari


Well, let's be clear - I've seen US Military taking sides against their own vets, don't recall having seen it happen in Canada (which doesn't mean I'm correct.)

And remember, I'm referencing orgs like XE SPECIFICALLY due to their military training, access to the newest tech on the military market, and existing contracts to the US military in most places where US forces are entrenched, as "support and supply." These guys are drag-and-drop replacements for standing troops, without the pesky morals or patriotism that make a lot of folk choose service to begin with.

I think that merc companies have been babysitters and cleanup for a LONG time, along with an insurance policy in case of just they type of scenario you describe. 2/3rds of the troops in Syria want to go AWOL? the other 3rd will stick with the mercs and, as you say, take out thier own. The type of people that join those organizations were never cut out to return to "normal" lives anyways.

Same in every sector - you'll always have narcisstipsychos willing to walk on their fellows for a few bucks and the ability to do as they please, so long as they jump when the boss says jump.

Thank you for a civilized discussion!

cheers

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Why would they sacrifice the trust they've spent so many years establishing when they can use this oppurtunity to make themselves the hero?

The fallout for them would be huge if the vaccine was a weapon. They would forever lose all credibility amongst their slaves and create an army of people out for their blood.
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This is a sticking point for me.

Why are they vaccing their foot soldiers?!

If this thing is a bio weapon, why are they starting with targeting their own grunts?

Government workers, police, military...

These are literally the shield, and the sword, they use on a local and global scale.

I'm unvaxxed, and on the fence.
I have people asking me for my opinion, for themselves and their family.

I can read the science, listen to both sides, but I'm not qualified in the field so sometimes have to rely on logic.

If anyone wants to chime in with some good responses, I'd appreciate it.
 Quoting: Sol-tari


Let me make it simple for you,

They want EVERYONE DEAD
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Why would they sacrifice the trust they've spent so many years establishing when they can use this oppurtunity to make themselves the hero?

The fallout for them would be huge if the vaccine was a weapon. They would forever lose all credibility amongst their slaves and create an army of people out for their blood.
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Man, your scripters REALLY need replacing - they come up with the dumbest shit.

"Sacrifice the trust they've spent so many years establishing..."

lolatu

You say dumb stuff like that and it TOTALLY destroys the credibility of your trolling. THIS is why you suck at this stuff, Creme.

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11/04/2021 06:17 PM
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Re: Antivaxxers - A Question *updated
This is a sticking point for me.

Why are they vaccing their foot soldiers?!

If this thing is a bio weapon, why are they starting with targeting their own grunts?

Government workers, police, military...

These are literally the shield, and the sword, they use on a local and global scale.

I'm unvaxxed, and on the fence.
I have people asking me for my opinion, for themselves and their family.

I can read the science, listen to both sides, but I'm not qualified in the field so sometimes have to rely on logic.

If anyone wants to chime in with some good responses, I'd appreciate it.
 Quoting: Sol-tari


But they AREN'T "vaxxing" their foot soldiers - they're "vaxxing" the multitudes that want choice and believe in freedom and liberty.

You're confusing the positions with the PEOPLE that fill them. Military is a great example - push comes to shove? As many of them will fight FOR the people as against, if not more. Same with police, medical, government - they're mostly just like you and me, punching a clock.

Now, do you for one second thing that Xe (formerly Blackwater) are out getting their shots? No, because THOSE are the REAL minions, the people that will work for TPTB and fire in whatever direction the money men point. Small, well-equipped specialist armies will be MORE than sufficient to deal with the few that resist the poison and survive.

Remember that they clearly tell you who they ARE injecting, but they don't ever mention who they AREN'T. When's the last time you saw the Senate or Congress admit that they aren't required to get jabbed? Or the AU government, etc?

Really, a very simple question and answer. Their foot soldiers are as psycho as they are, and they AREN'T the people that believe in oaths taken.

penguin
 Quoting: MountainTux NLI


Actually made the headlines here when a Vic judge told them what they could do with that order.
But, we're not all judges with that type of clout.

Interesting idea though. I agree with you largely regarding military/police...but I also remember history. Your own soldiers have charged on protesting vets before.

Would render an extremely large portion of their "weapons" inoperable (everything from say an aircraft carrier to manning a tracking system) which could cause issues...not to mention an extremely dispersed group on various continents of survivors that would need to be dealt with...

Can't have the survivors in Uzbekistan gathering together and raiding the stockpiles of military hardware...that's how you get roving warbands to compete with.

Have some green for being the first well presented argument.
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Well, let's be clear - I've seen US Military taking sides against their own vets, don't recall having seen it happen in Canada (which doesn't mean I'm correct.)

And remember, I'm referencing orgs like XE SPECIFICALLY due to their military training, access to the newest tech on the military market, and existing contracts to the US military in most places where US forces are entrenched, as "support and supply." These guys are drag-and-drop replacements for standing troops, without the pesky morals or patriotism that make a lot of folk choose service to begin with.

I think that merc companies have been babysitters and cleanup for a LONG time, along with an insurance policy in case of just they type of scenario you describe. 2/3rds of the troops in Syria want to go AWOL? the other 3rd will stick with the mercs and, as you say, take out thier own. The type of people that join those organizations were never cut out to return to "normal" lives anyways.

Same in every sector - you'll always have narcisstipsychos willing to walk on their fellows for a few bucks and the ability to do as they please, so long as they jump when the boss says jump.

Thank you for a civilized discussion!

cheers

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 Quoting: MountainTux NLI


Apologies l, mis-flagged(?) you lol.
I was thinking of American action in my reply, and like you can't think of a similar action from Canadian troops (but I may be wrong also).

Occasional reports that come from warzones, even if only in instances such as the mercs pardoned by Trump, its clear they are actively engaged in multiple ways. The new style of black ops, with even more deniability and ability to distance yourself.

Much like the ability to quietly change a company name to wash off bad publicity.

Enjoyed the chat

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Re: Antivaxxers - A Question *updated
If the goal is to take control globally...

Well Take out all the protection...then take over the individual countries with a global force.

Easy to do if ever country is failing to maintain their militaries.

Why vaccinated 100% when 20% just aren't effected 0-18's

Why vaccinated when only 20% will be effected.

Why vaccinate 100% with a vaccine and DEATH as a known side effect to a virus effecting 20% and of those only 2% will die?

Why this global push?
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Re: Antivaxxers - A Question *updated
Why would they sacrifice the trust they've spent so many years establishing when they can use this oppurtunity to make themselves the hero?

The fallout for them would be huge if the vaccine was a weapon. They would forever lose all credibility amongst their slaves and create an army of people out for their blood.
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Man, your scripters REALLY need replacing - they come up with the dumbest shit.

"Sacrifice the trust they've spent so many years establishing..."

lolatu

You say dumb stuff like that and it TOTALLY destroys the credibility of your trolling. THIS is why you suck at this stuff, Creme.

penguin
 Quoting: MountainTux NLI


The leaders haven't been French revolutioned.
Soldiers follow orders
Plumbers fix the pipes.

Enough trust the system continues to run.
But yeah, if people start dropping rapidly and it's connected, lynch mobs would form quick.

And they would include the ones who would normally fire when someone climbs thru a smashed glass window Chanting hang mike pence for example
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11/04/2021 06:26 PM
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Re: Antivaxxers - A Question *updated
Why would they sacrifice the trust they've spent so many years establishing when they can use this oppurtunity to make themselves the hero?

The fallout for them would be huge if the vaccine was a weapon. They would forever lose all credibility amongst their slaves and create an army of people out for their blood.
 Quoting: Bullsh!t


Man, your scripters REALLY need replacing - they come up with the dumbest shit.

"Sacrifice the trust they've spent so many years establishing..."

lolatu

You say dumb stuff like that and it TOTALLY destroys the credibility of your trolling. THIS is why you suck at this stuff, Creme.

penguin
 Quoting: MountainTux NLI


Their campaign has been mostly effective, you disagree?
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