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Antivaxxers - A Question *updated

 
Vafþrúðnir

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How to golemize the global masses in the face of an ongoing slow motion but total socio-political-economic cyclic paradigm collapse?

The effects of extended mass trauma conditioning have been long understood.

What it boils down to is this:

If you Truzt Ze PlanZ™, by all means take the 'blue pill'

chuckle
 Quoting: Vafþrúðnir


I'd say to pump them full of drugs, under the guise of medicine, and while they're in this altered state due to their willing imbibing of mind numbing substances, pillage the country.

I'm puzzling at the plan, and wondering if it's family that 56D chess that was so popular here for a time.

What move is being played?
Is it chess 669?
 Quoting: Sol-tari


You got it. With yet another smidge of DNA altering forgetting sauce, lest anyone dare to remember the last time we were genetically altered in the name of our own best interests as humans.

Now there's a 'leap', eh?

chuckle

Nothing new under this Sun.

sun
 Quoting: Vafþrúðnir


Why not just modify existing vaccines?
Why all this trouble and extra steps?
 Quoting: Sol-tari


Good questions, but it appears the mass trauma and 'forced' concession aspects play a vital role. Or/and we're dealing with some increasingly nasty human despising entities at the head office.

'Logic' in the linear temporal traditional sense most of us prefer may not apply here at all.

But make no mistake, this is another global 'working' that surpasses '9/11' by a multitude of factors.

Out of curiosity, how is your deepest gut sense advising you?

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Merica is dead it's an intentional destabilization and tear down of what was fought for and protected by predecessors in war who valued freedom and personal dignity

The border is letting in the new populace to replace those being culled
The new ones will obey for a bowl of soup
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Id have to agree. At the place I work they use temp companies to fill the spots. ZERO AMERICANS. All from some part of Africa,Mexico,Hondorus,ect ect....
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I'd say to pump them full of drugs, under the guise of medicine, and while they're in this altered state due to their willing imbibing of mind numbing substances, pillage the country.

I'm puzzling at the plan, and wondering if it's family that 56D chess that was so popular here for a time.

What move is being played?
Is it chess 669?
 Quoting: Sol-tari


You got it. With yet another smidge of DNA altering forgetting sauce, lest anyone dare to remember the last time we were genetically altered in the name of our own best interests as humans.

Now there's a 'leap', eh?

chuckle

Nothing new under this Sun.

sun
 Quoting: Vafþrúðnir


Why not just modify existing vaccines?
Why all this trouble and extra steps?
 Quoting: Sol-tari


Good questions, but it appears the mass trauma and 'forced' concession aspects play a vital role. Or/and we're dealing with some increasingly nasty human despising entities at the head office.

'Logic' in the linear temporal traditional sense most of us prefer may not apply here at all.

But make no mistake, this is another global 'working' that surpasses '9/11' by a multitude of factors.

Out of curiosity, how is your deepest gut sense advising you?
 Quoting: Vafþrúðnir




It could be...but 9/11 definitely had plans attached to it.

Order out of chaos on that.
While it could be increasing nasty working...like the incompetent ancient evil point before, it remains. A handful of actions could have most of the world eating itself in a week, and that's without zombies.

I'm also an outside observer. Covids had virtually zero direct effect, and by that I mean any illness to me or anyone directly. Certainly no death.
But I have to take into consideration those who say they lost love ones to it, as I do those who say they lost them to the vaccine.

And here we are
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Merica is dead it's an intentional destabilization and tear down of what was fought for and protected by predecessors in war who valued freedom and personal dignity

The border is letting in the new populace to replace those being culled
The new ones will obey for a bowl of soup
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74860066


Id have to agree. At the place I work they use temp companies to fill the spots. ZERO AMERICANS. All from some part of Africa,Mexico,Hondorus,ect ect....
 Quoting: Trepper


Don't they already have those sweatshops in 3rd world countries?
And they're over there, so they don't mess up the lawn and ruin the scenery.

It's not like your rich are struggling and need workers for the cheap...
That's why when you call tech support, you get a bloke from Bangladesh
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You got it. With yet another smidge of DNA altering forgetting sauce, lest anyone dare to remember the last time we were genetically altered in the name of our own best interests as humans.

Now there's a 'leap', eh?

chuckle

Nothing new under this Sun.

sun
 Quoting: Vafþrúðnir


Why not just modify existing vaccines?
Why all this trouble and extra steps?
 Quoting: Sol-tari


Good questions, but it appears the mass trauma and 'forced' concession aspects play a vital role. Or/and we're dealing with some increasingly nasty human despising entities at the head office.

'Logic' in the linear temporal traditional sense most of us prefer may not apply here at all.

But make no mistake, this is another global 'working' that surpasses '9/11' by a multitude of factors.

Out of curiosity, how is your deepest gut sense advising you?
 Quoting: Vafþrúðnir


I'm also an outside observer. Covids had virtually zero direct effect, and by that I mean any illness to me or anyone directly. Certainly no death.
But I have to take into consideration those who say they lost love ones to it, as I do those who say they lost them to the vaccine.

And here we are
 Quoting: Sol-tari


Yup, I had no directly correlatable events to point to either.

Until recently.

May you and yours continue to ride the storm out as unscathed as dared possible.

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This is a sticking point for me.

Why are they vaccing their foot soldiers?!

If this thing is a bio weapon, why are they starting with targeting their own grunts?

Government workers, police, military...

These are literally the shield, and the sword, they use on a local and global scale.

I'm unvaxxed, and on the fence.
I have people asking me for my opinion, for themselves and their family.

I can read the science, listen to both sides, but I'm not qualified in the field so sometimes have to rely on logic.

If anyone wants to chime in with some good responses, I'd appreciate it.
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Because its a Purity Test. The vcxx is the Baptism into the cult. Simple as.
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Why not just modify existing vaccines?
Why all this trouble and extra steps?
 Quoting: Sol-tari


Good questions, but it appears the mass trauma and 'forced' concession aspects play a vital role. Or/and we're dealing with some increasingly nasty human despising entities at the head office.

'Logic' in the linear temporal traditional sense most of us prefer may not apply here at all.

But make no mistake, this is another global 'working' that surpasses '9/11' by a multitude of factors.

Out of curiosity, how is your deepest gut sense advising you?
 Quoting: Vafþrúðnir


I'm also an outside observer. Covids had virtually zero direct effect, and by that I mean any illness to me or anyone directly. Certainly no death.
But I have to take into consideration those who say they lost love ones to it, as I do those who say they lost them to the vaccine.

And here we are
 Quoting: Sol-tari


Yup, I had no directly correlatable events to point to either.

Until recently.

May you and yours continue to ride the storm out as unscathed as dared possible.

frostybeer
 Quoting: Vafþrúðnir


And to yours mate, and yourself

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Quit calling people anti-vaxxers you cawksucker
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This is a sticking point for me.

Why are they vaccing their foot soldiers?!

If this thing is a bio weapon, why are they starting with targeting their own grunts?

Government workers, police, military...

These are literally the shield, and the sword, they use on a local and global scale.

I'm unvaxxed, and on the fence.
I have people asking me for my opinion, for themselves and their family.

I can read the science, listen to both sides, but I'm not qualified in the field so sometimes have to rely on logic.

If anyone wants to chime in with some good responses, I'd appreciate it.
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Because its a Purity Test. The vcxx is the Baptism into the cult. Simple as.
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So they kill their followers, but spare the unbelievers?
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Look to the Guidestones for your answer.

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Quit calling people anti-vaxxers you cawksucker
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My point with the title was to bring in those who can relate to it.

If I wanted pro-vax opinion, that would be the title.

Do you have something to contribute?

Or are you just hear to inform me a word hurt your feelings?
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Look to the Guidestones for your answer.
 Quoting: Macs Divoc


Been aware of them for some time.

I've been here for some time.

After reading maaaany theories, if this is the plan,
They should have hired some glpers
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Look to the Guidestones for your answer.
 Quoting: Macs Divoc


Been aware of them for some time.

I've been here for some time.

After reading maaaany theories, if this is the plan,
They should have hired some glpers
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They don't plan on having many around, especially critical thinkers.

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Look for videos of

Dr zelenko

Dr McCullough

Dr Simone gold

On eay treatment and bizarre suppression

Many pharmacists refuse to fill ivermectin prescriptions now

They and many other MD each say they've treated 100s to thousands with nearly 100 pct success

Realize what that means ... it's irrefutable

Yet they've banned these treatments in Australia with penalty of jail and made them difficult to get elsewhere

Wake the fuck up

It only makes sense if the intent is not to save lives... based on the info I'm aware of it is mass murder depopulation and creation of a totalitarian world dictatorship
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Look to the Guidestones for your answer.
 Quoting: Macs Divoc


Been aware of them for some time.

I've been here for some time.

After reading maaaany theories, if this is the plan,
They should have hired some glpers
 Quoting: Sol-tari


They don't plan on having many around, especially critical thinkers.
 Quoting: Macs Divoc


But they seem to be the ones avoiding the Vax...

"How do we kill those who don't listen to us"
"Tell them to do something!"
"Of course!"

Either this is a prime example of why you don't want yes men, their iq is subpar, or it's back to why are they dosing their grunts first?
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I have had a suspicion for quite some time that this is about controlling population - it’s a long game. Not everyone who gets vaxxed is going to die. My suspicion is that there is a percentage of the population who carry some kind of genetic trait that they have figured out how to exploit. Some of those people will die of things we are seeing now - blood clots and related conditions, some will develop autoimmune disorders or disease that will keep them from wanting children. Many will become infertile and the birth rate will drop significantly.

They have not figured out exactly what will happen who, but they know that these things will happen to a percentage of people.
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Look for videos of

Dr zelenko

Dr McCullough

Dr Simone gold

On eay treatment and bizarre suppression

Many pharmacists refuse to fill ivermectin prescriptions now

They and many other MD each say they've treated 100s to thousands with nearly 100 pct success

Realize what that means ... it's irrefutable

Yet they've banned these treatments in Australia with penalty of jail and made them difficult to get elsewhere

Wake the fuck up

It only makes sense if the intent is not to save lives... based on the info I'm aware of it is mass murder depopulation and creation of a totalitarian world dictatorship
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78720179


Alright mate, let's say you're correct.

Why are they killing off the soldiers and police first? Their enforcers?
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I have had a suspicion for quite some time that this is about controlling population - it’s a long game. Not everyone who gets vaxxed is going to die. My suspicion is that there is a percentage of the population who carry some kind of genetic trait that they have figured out how to exploit. Some of those people will die of things we are seeing now - blood clots and related conditions, some will develop autoimmune disorders or disease that will keep them from wanting children. Many will become infertile and the birth rate will drop significantly.

They have not figured out exactly what will happen who, but they know that these things will happen to a percentage of people.
 Quoting: wreckingcrew


China was recently discussing a bio weapon that targeted genetic traits.

So a global campaign to target a select group of individuals with certain genetic characteristics.

Who, and why, would be the next question
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It’s GmO would you eat it?? Why inject it?? It’s not nature we are natuee
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They are vaxing everyone they want dead. The elected elite have sold out to China and Soros, Gates, Rothchilds, Blackrock... They don't care or want to serve the people. Hell... look at the spending. Blackrock owns EVERYTHING (along with a few other piss ants). Just check who the stock holders are of Pepsi and then compare it to Coke. Or McDonalds and Burger King... or whomever you choose. The monopoly board is all bought up by the one person that has now won. They don't want to have to deal with your dumb ass or your mothers, sisters, brothers... need I go on?

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It’s GmO would you eat it?? Why inject it?? It’s not nature we are natuee
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I've also had friends who need glasses
Insulin
Uncle had a heart bypass.

Get what you're saying, but at the same time


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This is a sticking point for me.

Why are they vaccing their foot soldiers?!

If this thing is a bio weapon, why are they starting with targeting their own grunts?

Government workers, police, military...

These are literally the shield, and the sword, they use on a local and global scale.

I'm unvaxxed, and on the fence.
I have people asking me for my opinion, for themselves and their family.

I can read the science, listen to both sides, but I'm not qualified in the field so sometimes have to rely on logic.

If anyone wants to chime in with some good responses, I'd appreciate it.
 Quoting: Sol-tari


Good point, to me Big Pharma is milking 2 shots and beyond for money not effective health prevention, and our governments are just going along with it all.

There might be group developing that says no to third booster shots, because they see Big Pharma trying to hook us onto endless booster shots. Tell me any Vaccine that you have ever needed 3 shots within a year? The Vaccines I took as child decades ago I haven't had take to ever take again. So either it's pretty useless, or a big money scam.
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Look for videos of

Dr zelenko

Dr McCullough

Dr Simone gold

On eay treatment and bizarre suppression

Many pharmacists refuse to fill ivermectin prescriptions now

They and many other MD each say they've treated 100s to thousands with nearly 100 pct success

Realize what that means ... it's irrefutable

Yet they've banned these treatments in Australia with penalty of jail and made them difficult to get elsewhere

Wake the fuck up

It only makes sense if the intent is not to save lives... based on the info I'm aware of it is mass murder depopulation and creation of a totalitarian world dictatorship
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78720179


Alright mate, let's say you're correct.

Why are they killing off the soldiers and police first? Their enforcers?
 Quoting: Sol-tari


We've been thru that

It's a slow kill ... but it won't just be one or two they will force shots on you yearly

They want Trump supporters and great reset opponents out of the police and military

So they can use them against those groups

You're here to propagandist... u r the enemy

Joined with the mass murderers good luck they dispose of their tools after use
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They are vaxing everyone they want dead. The elected elite have sold out to China and Soros, Gates, Rothchilds, Blackrock... They don't care or want to serve the people. Hell... look at the spending. Blackrock owns EVERYTHING (along with a few other piss ants). Just check who the stock holders are of Pepsi and then compare it to Coke. Or McDonalds and Burger King... or whomever you choose. The monopoly board is all bought up by the one person that has now to won. They don't want to have to deal with your dumb ass or your mothers, sisters, brothers... need I go on?
 Quoting: Miester


So...they won monopoly.

And rather then owning the board...they burn It?

They don't deal with me.

I do my thing, they jump on the private plane and fly to a hotel they booked out for the week.

Why burn that down?
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This is a sticking point for me.

Why are they vaccing their foot soldiers?!

If this thing is a bio weapon, why are they starting with targeting their own grunts?

Government workers, police, military...

These are literally the shield, and the sword, they use on a local and global scale.

I'm unvaxxed, and on the fence.
I have people asking me for my opinion, for themselves and their family.

I can read the science, listen to both sides, but I'm not qualified in the field so sometimes have to rely on logic.

If anyone wants to chime in with some good responses, I'd appreciate it.
 Quoting: Sol-tari


Good point, to me Big Pharma is milking 2 shots and beyond for money not effective health prevention, and our governments are just going along with it all.

There might be group developing that says no to third booster shots, because they see Big Pharma trying to hook us onto endless booster shots. Tell me any Vaccine that you have ever needed 3 shots within a year? The Vaccines I took as child decades ago I haven't had take to ever take again. So either it's pretty useless, or a big money scam.
 Quoting: NISMO 80745107


chuckle

Yeah this makes a lot of sense.

Some shots do require boosters after years but yell, even the basically useless flu shot last for a year.

Jacking us full of slightly, but not really effective, treatment that requires us to need more.

Does sound like modern medicine, if slightly less doomy then the others.

Another one for the board

cheers
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Look for videos of

Dr zelenko

Dr McCullough

Dr Simone gold

On eay treatment and bizarre suppression

Many pharmacists refuse to fill ivermectin prescriptions now

They and many other MD each say they've treated 100s to thousands with nearly 100 pct success

Realize what that means ... it's irrefutable

Yet they've banned these treatments in Australia with penalty of jail and made them difficult to get elsewhere

Wake the fuck up

It only makes sense if the intent is not to save lives... based on the info I'm aware of it is mass murder depopulation and creation of a totalitarian world dictatorship
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78720179


Alright mate, let's say you're correct.

Why are they killing off the soldiers and police first? Their enforcers?
 Quoting: Sol-tari


We've been thru that

It's a slow kill ... but it won't just be one or two they will force shots on you yearly

They want Trump supporters and great reset opponents out of the police and military

So they can use them against those groups

You're here to propagandist... u r the enemy

Joined with the mass murderers good luck they dispose of their tools after use
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78720179


Alright, well, can't argue with that

shrug

So we've currently got, in no particular order

1) Elimination of military to allow private contractors to seize control
2) Elimination of military to allow a foreign power to seize control
3) Ancient incompetent evil (various forms)
4) Simply a way for corporations to make more money

Got more? Let's hear it.
Got some evidence to go with one of the above?
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Plenty of evidence for timelessly wicked incompetence and intentional gross negligence.

Then there's the Thanos Principle

“Look. Pretty, isn’t it? Perfectly balanced. As all things should be.”

damned

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Samson option, offered by Anonymous karma.

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

The Samson Option ) is the name that some military analysts and authors have given to I******s deterrence strategy of massive retaliation with nuclear weapons as a "last resort" against a country whose military has invaded and/or destroyed much of I*****.[1] Commentators also have employed the term to refer to situations where non-nuclear, non-Israeli actors, have threatened conventional weapons retaliation, such as Yasser Arafat.[2]


A final f.u. call to a potential conflict?
Would deprive the conquering of labour, knowledge and expertise otherwise gained.

Or in your reference, is the Vax and its effects an activated Samson that will kill a large potion, since its lost?
Less incompetent evil, more defeated evil?
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Plenty of evidence for timelessly wicked incompetence and intentional gross negligence.

Then there's the Thanos Principle

“Look. Pretty, isn’t it? Perfectly balanced. As all things should be.”

damned
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nods

Incompetence does seem to be a driving force behind a few of these.
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Simple answer to all of this. We aren’t needed. Technology has advanced to the point the where most of us could be gone and machines would do everything. All countries leaders are in on it. There is no China vs usa, that is theatre for the masses. If they are trying to depopulate the world, between the people who are left and machines we’ve probably never heard of, they are good to go.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66937733


So why not just release a virus?

"Oh no, we can't cure it"

Why these extra steps?

Why indeed, fuck up their enforcers?
 Quoting: Sol-tari


They did release a virus. Confused what you are saying by “why not”?

How do we know they can’t cure it? What else have they cured but suppressed? How do we know the virus isn’t download content for something more lethal coming up in the future? The current virus and vax could just be a catalyst..who knows

All the extra steps? Theatre…cannon fodder if you will. It’s not like things would happen with the snap of their fingers. And wiping out everyone with war would just destroy resources and make large portions of the world unusable for who knows how long. The next real war/mass scale was would be nuclear or similar. A virus and a vax proceeding possibly more of the same along very similar lines would be a far better resolution as their means to an end.

Enforcers wouldn’t be enforcers for very long, anyone including those divided politically would quickly unite if faced with an obvious threat to all of humanity worldwide. It would be the equivalent of oppressive aliens invading earth, all human differences would seem to disappear overnight.


I don’t know if this what they’re doing or not. I’m just looking at all of it as if I was the psychopath in control and my goal was to remove the majority of my enemies and wanted a smaller more manageable group of people to rule over. If 90% of the world population got wiped out, those left who are not tptb will beg for any form of stability. Just imagine the psychological impact of 90% being wiped out in a relatively short period of time. Then add in the fact that all tptb need is one full generation to die off then they can condition the next generation to believe and do whatever they want; see the untied states education system atm. They’ve done a damn good job of doing exactly this. They’ve ran all the psychological social experiments they need to run to know whether or not they can do A to achieve xy and z.





GLP