All cause mortality by vax status in england is insane

Here they are in a separate column

Unvaxxed means no shot

There were deaths also in between the shots you can find them in same table

Tell CKP before he gets his 3, 4, 5 and probably no more doses as he ded.

Tell CKP before he gets his 3, 4, 5 and probably no more doses as he ded.

FFS, you are an idiot...or falsely think we are. The answer is basic science. While our bodies are structurally and biochemically made of the same fundamental components, the terrain details are all different, inclusive of the differences caused through life experience as well as genetic expression, which...wait for it...is the reason for long term, large population, well-defined subject population subsets in controlled, transparent and heavily scrutinized and peer reviewed clinical trials and testing. And, that's, of course, also tightly controlling the injection variables and TRACKING outcome. NONE OF WHICH OCCURRED with these, at best, therapeutic injections.

The world population is serving as the phase 3 trial subjects after phase 2 trials were halted before completion, and outcome is not being properly tracked or data properly gathered.

How much are you paid at the big pharma-biotech shill farm to promote the crimes against humanity agenda?

I really do hope each of you who participate in these crimes hang and are eternally tortured in the pits of some hell, even if it's a metaphorical construct.

After watching this recent testimony and expert panel discussion at the Capitol, you can no longer claim ignorance:

Senator Johnson Expert Panel on Federal Vaccine Mandates and Vaccine Injuries






It really pisses me off in the morning when fucktards like this AC incite me to log in to respond to their shilling, psy op BS. I just want to enjoy a cup of coffee while reading a little news.

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Last Edited by TXP on 11/05/2021 08:12 PM

And, OP, thanks for this thread. The caffeine needs to kick in a bit before I'm able to tackle stats, but I'll give your data attention a little later. Thread marked for a re-visit.

Thanks for compiling and sharing. Your efforts are much appreciated as well as the data discussion.

Cheers!

thx bro, looking forward to your input

The reason that all-cause mortality is higher in the jabbed than the non-jabbed is that the average age of the jabbed in the UK is about 50, whereas the average age of the unjabbed is about 25.

Only 10% of under 18s have been jabbed whereas over 80% of over 18s have been jabbed.

This skews the figures so that people draw erroneous conclusions.

The jabs are dangerous and the virus is dangerous.

Which is more dangerous?

We shall find out in the years ahead.

yea thing is that data is only for age group between 10-59

unfortunately i'll need to do manual extrapolations to get a bit more in depth since they lumped all that together


here's an example where we can't complain about age variation.
this is for the age 60-69 group

again all causes mortality
this time unvaxxed vs 21+days after 1st dose

age | deaths | population | rate per 100k

24-Sep-21
21+ days 1st dose 60-69 | 45 | 57,552 | 78.2
Unvaccinated 60-69 | 65 | 270,362 | 24.0

17-Sep-21

21+ days 1st dose 60-69 | 41 | 58,923 | 69.6

Unvaccinated 60-69 | 73 | 270,878 | 26.9


so how exactly do you explain in this group, those at 21+ days days after first dose (but before 2nd) have THREE TIMES HIGHER MORTALITY than unvaxxed

Not really true.

This is not that much different than Global Warming. They tell you have 2017 was the hottest year ever...but they are comparing it what...1870?

...did the have satelite' temps back then? Apples and Oranges.


Same with this shit:

Are the Pool of Vaccinated People the Same as the Pool of Unvaccinated?

...Probably not. Wouldn't a fat unhealthy fugger probably run to get the vax, while a fit healthy guy probably think I don't need the Vax.

..so you get what you expect, in the big picture, the unhealthy people are dying. taking the vax is a conincidental symptom of being unhealthy, not a driver.

read my last comparison

between vaxxed and those at 21+ days after first dose but before 2nd

those in the 21+days were like 1 month before in the unvaccinated group

so when you see such difference because 3 times more mortality is quite a lot, you have to assume there is a big chance the vaccine itself had to do with that increase.

how much of it you can't know without much deeper analysis and we don t have that data.

but you can't simply assume that everything else is probably the reason, except the very property that gives you that result

so you already have a correlation. and sure to establish causation you need necropsies and much more detailed analysis of data

when you check data look also into the comparison between unvaxxed and those 21 days after first dose in the recent period, of which i gave an example a bit earlier

One exception doesn't disprove the rule

Has all cause mortality significantly risen in each age group over, say, the previous five years? That's the signal.

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Ok I’ve looked at the figures for the most recent week available and the effect that I described in my first post applies to the 10-59 age group. For older age groups there is certainly a double or triple chance of dying if the person is single-jabbed compared to unjabbed.

The all-cause death rate is slightly lower for the double jabbed compared to the unjabbed, ,

It’s an interesting data set and you’re right to flag it up. I think that most people are tolerating the jab (in the short term) quite well but a significant minority are jabbed and then die. Probably at least 1% of over 60s die soon after the jab, because of the jab.

yup, glad we re having a sane exchange.

thx for your input

Yes it has, it is running at 15% above the five year average and has been since July. About half of that excess has been officially attributed to covid. It’s been true for all age groups apart from the under 18s although that has changed in recent weeks with a doubling of weekly deaths of boys aged 12-17, which has happened at an increasing rate as the jabs have been approved for younger and younger age groups.

The jabs are dangerous. Everyone knows this deep down. Are they more or less dangerous than covid? The truth may become clearer in the years to come although the jab manufacturers and our rulers will attempt to obfuscate the truth.

Russian roulette survivor.

"I pulled the trigger and I'm fine!"

Wow

death rate for 50s is usually lower than 20s.

check a mortality table. the 20s have much higher
accident, suicide, murder and overdose rates but
50s health issues are just starting.

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It is because the unvaccinated group contain all the kids and the vaccinated groups largely don't.

If you want to see an interesting effect, look at how in the older age groups there's a spike in non-covid deaths in the unvaccinated immediately after that group starts being vaccinated (ie, look at data from this spring). This tracks each age group -- 80+ first, then about 4 weeks later the 70-80 group, and then 4ish weeks later again the 60-70 group.

This isn't some magic effect where vaccination kills off those not vaccinated (non covid deaths, remember).

This is purely because they didn't vaccinate those that were close to death. Because of high vaccine take up in the older groups these 'close to death' were all put into the 'vaccine hesitant' group (about 10% of the population).

They then died and this pushed up the death stats for the unvaccinated group (for non-covid deaths).

This effect had a material effect on the official estimates of vaccine efficiency against hospitalisation/death. Even though those individuals have largely died and non-vaccinated deaths has sort-of returned to normal, they're still including this time in their official vaccine efficiency estimate.

You'd think they'd be called out on this, but no-one is doing it -- I've tried, but it has fallen on deaf ears.

And....wouldn't the unvaccinated death totals include those with shots in the first 1-20 days? If yes, and we could get their numbers, the motality difference is probably even higher

you're assuming kid death rate is less.

check a mortality table.

i think you will be surprised. from 30 to 55 is
the lowest death rates.

ok. i ll check that part.

any input on my previous example of what happens in september between unvaxxed and those vaxxed with 1st dose more than 21 days ago?

how do you exaplain there is 3 times more deaths in those jabbed for 21+days ?

nope, they have 4 cateogries

unvaxxed
1st dose up to 21 days
1st dose 21+ days
2nd dose

u really need to check the data and see if you can find interesting things

that s interesting, if you have such a link at hand would be appreciated

Thanks for the info. I was specifically inquiring about YOY and average comparisons and not group comparisons. Diffster provided the answer.

Diffster, you are right: the question now is 'which is more dangerous', but we don't have clean data to determine that, either, since "with" and "from" have been so severely tainted as well as using data from non-diagnostic and uncontrolled (cycle variable) "tests". The op def of a clinical "covid" diagnosis has been, and still is, all over the board.

Intentional dirty methodology and data gathering resulting in dirty data to perpetrate fraud in the name of profit and power. The magnitude is incomprehensible.

Last Edited by TXP on 11/05/2021 12:12 PM

It sure is an interesting dataset.

I'm not sure about single jabbed in Sept, but an interesting point about the single jabbed in general is how the mortality generally looks high in that age group.

My interpretation of this is that they started jabbing that age group at around week 8. From that point on for about 3 months the single jab group contains the vast majority of that age group (90% or so).

After 12 weeks, so about week 20, they started giving that group their second jab. But, crucially, there was a subset of that age group that only just survived their first jab and who were at death's door. The medical advice at that point was to not give anyone truly ill their second jab.

So, from about week 20 they start concentrating the 'death's door' individuals into an increasingly small number of people. By about week 24 or so most people have been jabbed, so all the 'really really ill people' are now stuffed in with the 10% or so who don't want to be jabbed.

This has two effects -- it makes the single jabbed (>21days) group look as though it has a high death rate (whereas it is actually a minority in that group has a huge death rate).

And, it makes the double jabbed group look 'better', because it has had all the people who were going to die removed from it.

Again, I'll state that the main effect of all this has been to make it look as though the vaccine efficiency against hospitalisation/death is far better than it actually is.

As far as I can tell, the vaccine efficiency against hospitalisation/death is about 50% at the 6 month point. It is also falling rapidly. I estimate it'll hit zero in about Jan/Feb time. At the moment I can't tell how this'll be affected by the booster jabs (the same effect applies -- the truly ill people aren't getting the booster, and this is corrupting the data).

As a general point, I'd suggest that you separate out the non-covid from the covid deaths (ie, subtract table 3 from table 4) -- it makes the analysis/interpretation far easier.

Not in the UK they're not. The background mortality rates are something like (this is for 2015, mortality per year per 1,000 individuals):
80+ 107.5
75 to 79 33.8
70 to 74 11.8
65-69 7.8
60-64 4.8
55-59 3.9
50-54 3.1
45-49 2
40-44 1.4
35-39 0.9
30-34 0.6
25-29 0.4
20-24 0.4
15-19 0.2
10-14 0.2

I believe that's a cumulative number.

if you look at insurance policies, age 30-55 has lowest life insurance rates.


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