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Hospitals and staff are SCREWED. No pay from Medicare or Medicaid if not vaxxed. DEADline now

 
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..."On November 4, 2021, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid
Services (CMS) issued an interim final rule (the “Rule”)
requiring COVID-19 vaccination for staff at Medicare- and
Medicaid-certified providers and suppliers. The Rule
became effective on November 5, 2021."...


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Hospitals and their staff are effectively SCREWED.

Brandon Regime says NO PAYMENTS for Medicaid or Medicare if
Hospitals and Healthcare providers do not comply with the
vax mandate.

Let's Go Brandon !
fubikini
 Quoting: Trained Noticer


and you know what comes next don't you? No payment from Medicare for the PATIENT either unless vaxx'd.

I swear the USA is going to erupt very soon. The majority not considered vaxx'd is growing in numbers daily now. Soon the UNvaxx'd will be the huge majority....
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My hospital is accepting medical and religious exemptions and so far I haven’t heard anyone being given a hard time over it. However, other hospitals in the area are giving staff major issues - they are clearly stating if you’ve received vaccines in the past, then you obviously don’t have a legitimate religious or medical reason to object to the covid 19 vax.
 Quoting: GemKline

Except, this cv jab is NOT a vaccine & that's why they are refusing medical exemptions based on past experiences with true vaccines.
 Quoting: simplify


the CDC jiggled the definition of vaccine twice since 2015 to include it.

they screwed themselves in the foot here, or is it shot themselves in the foot?
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We hired a girl that was a surgical tech in a local hospital. She was fired for not taking the shot. Before she was fired, she was constantly harassed, picked on, and talked about even during surgery by the surgeons and nurses. She was actually relieved to be fired as she never knew what the day would bring. She told me that the hospital is allowed to have 5% of the staff unvaxxed. Soo, the hospital will fire all the "piddly" jobs such as nurses and techs, etc. just to keep the prized surgeons, anesthesiologists and doctors that request medical exemptions. Thats what the little secret is. Im thrilled she was fired, shes the best! She loves working for me and I love having her here. The funny part of this whole thing is that the fired workers turn around and work "travel" this means they go back to work for the same hospital (if they want or other hospital) for more money for a set amount of time, usually 3 months. they can be UN VACKSED !! They can also keep re upping the temp position for a year !! lol OMG nothing makes sense. Hold the line everyone. Life is not worth living unless you LIVE ! FREE ! live free or die ! =)
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The problem in using childhood vaccination to deny exemptions is that most people vaccinated as children had no say in the decision, caretakers make decisions on their behalf. When it comes to jobs and school there is usually the titer test option. Most medical places/employers had flu vaccine as an option rather than mandated prior to Covid.

What about immunity from previous infection? That cannot be overlooked if it can be proven via bloodwork. They cant use the excuse that they don't know how long you are protected from Covid after infection. Blood work answers that question vaccinated, or not.

Besides the moral issue, this will be a huge burden for employers in the long run. They will have to mandate & keep up on all vaccinations. You can't just cherrypick which vaccines to enforce when the mandate is touted for "Safety" all vaccines are for public safety.

Another issue is the issue of illegals knowingly coming into this country not being required to get vaccinated. If this mandate is about public safety, then the rules should apply for EVERYONE again not cherry-picked.

The rules were changed and OSHA monetarily boosted for this mandate. Lawyers should be foaming at the mouth.

On another topic, we have people that put in the time and money to become U.S. citizens. Meanwhile, illegals come across the border for free and get compensated. They aren't even required to be vaccinated. All of the citizens that followed proper procedure and paid their share to be legal U.S. citizens should file a huge lawsuit.
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..."On November 4, 2021, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid
Services (CMS) issued an interim final rule (the “Rule”)
requiring COVID-19 vaccination for staff at Medicare- and
Medicaid-certified providers and suppliers. The Rule
became effective on November 5, 2021."...


[link to www.ebglaw.com (secure)]

Hospitals and their staff are effectively SCREWED.

Brandon Regime says NO PAYMENTS for Medicaid or Medicare if
Hospitals and Healthcare providers do not comply with the
vax mandate.

Let's Go Brandon !
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We hired a girl that was a surgical tech in a local hospital. She was fired for not taking the shot. Before she was fired, she was constantly harassed, picked on, and talked about even during surgery by the surgeons and nurses. She was actually relieved to be fired as she never knew what the day would bring. She told me that the hospital is allowed to have 5% of the staff unvaxxed. Soo, the hospital will fire all the "piddly" jobs such as nurses and techs, etc. just to keep the prized surgeons, anesthesiologists and doctors that request medical exemptions. Thats what the little secret is. Im thrilled she was fired, shes the best! She loves working for me and I love having her here. The funny part of this whole thing is that the fired workers turn around and work "travel" this means they go back to work for the same hospital (if they want or other hospital) for more money for a set amount of time, usually 3 months. they can be UN VACKSED !! They can also keep re upping the temp position for a year !! lol OMG nothing makes sense. Hold the line everyone. Life is not worth living unless you LIVE ! FREE ! live free or die ! =)
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That was working for many up to now. Seems because of the Fed
reimbursement they now require all contract workers and students,
etc. to be fully jabbed.

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I don't think this is about the vax anymore. I think its about reducing the workforce. Why would they want to do that? Less money being paid out by the government? Workers being replaced by AI? Government is broke?
Do you miss Trump yet?
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And most will comply. Americans are tough until we can't buy happiness
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Everybody is forgetting that 99% of the Population survives Covid illness.
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does this prevent them from giving exemptions?
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My wife manages a neurosurgery office. They've been taking fewer and fewer "medicaid" patients cos of all the trouble billing etc... but medicare now. That's big and I imagine that is about every docs office in the nation... the few private ones left, that is.

Off grid medicine is coming... you just watch and see.
 Quoting: deplorable scottfree


yep - no $$ to bill - cost more to chase after it

hopefully docs will accept cash under table without fear of license being revoked
 Quoting: DoorKocker345


They don't have to go under the table. They can accept cash now if they desired. One of my former MDs, who I call "god" chuckle, is cash only and has been for several decades.

Another is one of the few homeopath MDs in the country who also only accepts cash.

This is the old school way before insurance companies took over medical. Patients get much better service and treatment, and the MD is not controlled by insurance. Win-win...unless the MD is milking the system for money rather than in it for the health of patients.

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The Hospitals and Healthcare system will collapse.

I personally know MANY that will retire.

Many of the highly skilled in healthcare are older,
as there has been a severe shortage of people going
into the healthcare professions.

Looks like it is intentional.

:NWO:
 Quoting: Trained Noticer


I hope this exact thing happens.

This is extremely disgusting abuse of power and shows KUST how cucked we all are.

They literally control every aspect of our lives. Feels like a fresh punch in the gut.

NEVER thought this could or would happen in America.
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ROFL. GOOD.
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Well they did inflate covid numbers for money scaring everyone. They are to blame for people thinking we are in a huge pandemic. Yes people are sick and some die. But not like people were led to believe. And they held back life saving ivermectin. And IV vitamin c. Not to forget regeneron. So the chickens have come home to roost. I do feel bad for the staff that was trying to fight the greedy evil ones.
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How long before they go after Medicare and Medicaid patients, excluding them from medical care without the jab?

Seems like the logical next step!
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How long will it take for hospitals to burn down and for staff to be killed?
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does this prevent them from giving exemptions?
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My wife manages a neurosurgery office. They've been taking fewer and fewer "medicaid" patients cos of all the trouble billing etc... but medicare now. That's big and I imagine that is about every docs office in the nation... the few private ones left, that is.

Off grid medicine is coming... you just watch and see.
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yep - no $$ to bill - cost more to chase after it

hopefully docs will accept cash under table without fear of license being revoked
 Quoting: DoorKocker345


They don't have to go under the table. They can accept cash now if they desired. One of my former MDs, who I call "god" chuckle, is cash only and has been for several decades.

Another is one of the few homeopath MDs in the country who also only accepts cash.

This is the old school way before insurance companies took over medical. Patients get much better service and treatment, and the MD is not controlled by insurance. Win-win...unless the MD is milking the system for money rather than in it for the health of patients.

.
 Quoting: TXP


This is a fantastic system for general/continual care, but what will people do when they have an emergency and NEED to go to the hospital, for any reason (not just Covid)?

Most do not have thousands or hundreds of thousands of dollars just sitting around to pay for surgery or even 1 night in hospital.

I have a feeling hospitals are going to start refusing service to the unvaxxed soon, anyway. That's the direction we're heading. So we may not even need to worry about being able to pay or not.

What an epic disaster.
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ROFL. GOOD.
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Well they did inflate covid numbers for money scaring everyone. They are to blame for people thinking we are in a huge pandemic. Yes people are sick and some die. But not like people were led to believe. And they held back life saving ivermectin. And IV vitamin c. Not to forget regeneron. So the chickens have come home to roost. I do feel bad for the staff that was trying to fight the greedy evil ones.
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This ^^^
Seems that Italy just revised their numbers.
97.1 % of reported Covid deaths were NOT Covid deaths.
(Can we even believe the remaining 2.9%?)
And Flu virtually disappeared. Must have been cured.
Go figure.

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This is a fantastic system for general/continual care, but what will people do when they have an emergency and NEED to go to the hospital, for any reason (not just Covid)?

Most do not have thousands or hundreds of thousands of dollars just sitting around to pay for surgery or even 1 night in hospital.

I have a feeling hospitals are going to start refusing service to the unvaxxed soon, anyway. That's the direction we're heading. So we may not even need to worry about being able to pay or not.

What an epic disaster.
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Carry a catastrophic insurance policy, which is actually where medical insurance started.

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How long before they go after Medicare and Medicaid patients, excluding them from medical care without the jab?

Seems like the logical next step!
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Yup…. Have to wait until they fired all the healthcare workers before they implement this dictate…
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Yes this will be next. No Vax, then Insurance will not pay for any medical care. No insurance, no admittance to medical care either. Colorado is the example of where this is going.

Perhaps they know the medical industry will be over run soon with the Vaxxed as their immune systems totally fail and they start having all kinds of medical issues. Only way they can hide that "it's the Vax" not CoVid, is to deny non-vaxxers, blame all illnesses on them, as the health system implodes from all the vaxxers getting sick and dying and overwhelming the healthcare industry.....
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My wife manages a neurosurgery office. They've been taking fewer and fewer "medicaid" patients cos of all the trouble billing etc... but medicare now. That's big and I imagine that is about every docs office in the nation... the few private ones left, that is.

Off grid medicine is coming... you just watch and see.
 Quoting: deplorable scottfree


yep - no $$ to bill - cost more to chase after it

hopefully docs will accept cash under table without fear of license being revoked
 Quoting: DoorKocker345


They don't have to go under the table. They can accept cash now if they desired. One of my former MDs, who I call "god" chuckle, is cash only and has been for several decades.

Another is one of the few homeopath MDs in the country who also only accepts cash.

This is the old school way before insurance companies took over medical. Patients get much better service and treatment, and the MD is not controlled by insurance. Win-win...unless the MD is milking the system for money rather than in it for the health of patients.

.
 Quoting: TXP


This is a fantastic system for general/continual care, but what will people do when they have an emergency and NEED to go to the hospital, for any reason (not just Covid)?

Most do not have thousands or hundreds of thousands of dollars just sitting around to pay for surgery or even 1 night in hospital.

I have a feeling hospitals are going to start refusing service to the unvaxxed soon, anyway. That's the direction we're heading. So we may not even need to worry about being able to pay or not.

What an epic disaster.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81078741


the idea of concierge medicine or similar arrangements IS a great thing, has worked well for decades.

As for the hospitals..... you are an undocumented illegal alien invader - so it is for free!

just charge it against my $450,000, ma'am.

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This is a fantastic system for general/continual care, but what will people do when they have an emergency and NEED to go to the hospital, for any reason (not just Covid)?

Most do not have thousands or hundreds of thousands of dollars just sitting around to pay for surgery or even 1 night in hospital.

I have a feeling hospitals are going to start refusing service to the unvaxxed soon, anyway. That's the direction we're heading. So we may not even need to worry about being able to pay or not.

What an epic disaster.
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Carry a catastrophic insurance policy, which is actually where medical insurance started.

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..."On November 4, 2021, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid
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requiring COVID-19 vaccination for staff at Medicare- and
Medicaid-certified providers and suppliers. The Rule
became effective on November 5, 2021."...


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Hospitals and their staff are effectively SCREWED.

Brandon Regime says NO PAYMENTS for Medicaid or Medicare if
Hospitals and Healthcare providers do not comply with the
vax mandate.

Let's Go Brandon !
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Medicare and medicaid don't pay shit anyway, so hospitals and docs can just refuse the patients.
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This may have some loudmouths screaming for an intervention by the armed forces - that is the endgame after all
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serious question here I am on 3 types of blood pressure meds nothing else; what are the best alternatives if they stop meds without a vaccine? I am 66 realtively in good health, will not get the killer jab! I need to find good alt. to b.p. meds when this happens. Have been unable to find much info online .
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serious question here I am on 3 types of blood pressure meds nothing else; what are the best alternatives if they stop meds without a vaccine? I am 66 realtively in good health, will not get the killer jab! I need to find good alt. to b.p. meds when this happens. Have been unable to find much info online .
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Min Chex cardio plus simplex m antronex
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To hell with the corrupt FEDERAL tyranny...

We the People need to take our country back, and it won't be by "voting"!!!

We start at the TOP of the pyramid and work all the way down...

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what is that?
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serious question here I am on 3 types of blood pressure meds nothing else; what are the best alternatives if they stop meds without a vaccine? I am 66 realtively in good health, will not get the killer jab! I need to find good alt. to b.p. meds when this happens. Have been unable to find much info online .
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Min Chex cardio plus simplex m antronex
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anyone here with good answers to the b.p. meds question?
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How about no welfare payment if not vaxxed? Funny how they target every area where public money (your money) is spent to coerce people into getting vaxxed, but conveniently omit the welfare "free dis & free dat" population from a "no jab, no snap card" mandate.
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They are scared of them.
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bump

To show all my friends and relatives how far this maniacal bullshit has gone.

I expect they will come after the Medicare and Social Security recipients as well, very soon. I hope to God not, but I never expected what we have seen so far, so there's that.

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..."On November 4, 2021, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid
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Hospitals and their staff are effectively SCREWED.

Brandon Regime says NO PAYMENTS for Medicaid or Medicare if
Hospitals and Healthcare providers do not comply with the
vax mandate.

Let's Go Brandon !
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