Hospitals and staff are SCREWED. No pay from Medicare or Medicaid if not vaxxed. DEADline now | |
26Degrees
User ID: 81031998 United States 11/06/2021 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ..."On November 4, 2021, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Quoting: Trained Noticer Services (CMS) issued an interim final rule (the “Rule”) requiring COVID-19 vaccination for staff at Medicare- and Medicaid-certified providers and suppliers. The Rule became effective on November 5, 2021."... [link to www.ebglaw.com (secure)] Hospitals and their staff are effectively SCREWED. Brandon Regime says NO PAYMENTS for Medicaid or Medicare if Hospitals and Healthcare providers do not comply with the vax mandate. Let's Go Brandon ! and you know what comes next don't you? No payment from Medicare for the PATIENT either unless vaxx'd. I swear the USA is going to erupt very soon. The majority not considered vaxx'd is growing in numbers daily now. Soon the UNvaxx'd will be the huge majority.... |
beeches
User ID: 78973486 United States 11/06/2021 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My hospital is accepting medical and religious exemptions and so far I haven’t heard anyone being given a hard time over it. However, other hospitals in the area are giving staff major issues - they are clearly stating if you’ve received vaccines in the past, then you obviously don’t have a legitimate religious or medical reason to object to the covid 19 vax. Quoting: GemKline Except, this cv jab is NOT a vaccine & that's why they are refusing medical exemptions based on past experiences with true vaccines. the CDC jiggled the definition of vaccine twice since 2015 to include it. they screwed themselves in the foot here, or is it shot themselves in the foot? Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80876882 United States 11/06/2021 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We hired a girl that was a surgical tech in a local hospital. She was fired for not taking the shot. Before she was fired, she was constantly harassed, picked on, and talked about even during surgery by the surgeons and nurses. She was actually relieved to be fired as she never knew what the day would bring. She told me that the hospital is allowed to have 5% of the staff unvaxxed. Soo, the hospital will fire all the "piddly" jobs such as nurses and techs, etc. just to keep the prized surgeons, anesthesiologists and doctors that request medical exemptions. Thats what the little secret is. Im thrilled she was fired, shes the best! She loves working for me and I love having her here. The funny part of this whole thing is that the fired workers turn around and work "travel" this means they go back to work for the same hospital (if they want or other hospital) for more money for a set amount of time, usually 3 months. they can be UN VACKSED !! They can also keep re upping the temp position for a year !! lol OMG nothing makes sense. Hold the line everyone. Life is not worth living unless you LIVE ! FREE ! live free or die ! =) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80965492 United States 11/06/2021 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem in using childhood vaccination to deny exemptions is that most people vaccinated as children had no say in the decision, caretakers make decisions on their behalf. When it comes to jobs and school there is usually the titer test option. Most medical places/employers had flu vaccine as an option rather than mandated prior to Covid. What about immunity from previous infection? That cannot be overlooked if it can be proven via bloodwork. They cant use the excuse that they don't know how long you are protected from Covid after infection. Blood work answers that question vaccinated, or not. Besides the moral issue, this will be a huge burden for employers in the long run. They will have to mandate & keep up on all vaccinations. You can't just cherrypick which vaccines to enforce when the mandate is touted for "Safety" all vaccines are for public safety. Another issue is the issue of illegals knowingly coming into this country not being required to get vaccinated. If this mandate is about public safety, then the rules should apply for EVERYONE again not cherry-picked. The rules were changed and OSHA monetarily boosted for this mandate. Lawyers should be foaming at the mouth. On another topic, we have people that put in the time and money to become U.S. citizens. Meanwhile, illegals come across the border for free and get compensated. They aren't even required to be vaccinated. All of the citizens that followed proper procedure and paid their share to be legal U.S. citizens should file a huge lawsuit. |
Just Passing Through.....
*MOLON LABE* User ID: 80366167 United States 11/06/2021 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ..."On November 4, 2021, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Quoting: Trained Noticer Services (CMS) issued an interim final rule (the “Rule”) requiring COVID-19 vaccination for staff at Medicare- and Medicaid-certified providers and suppliers. The Rule became effective on November 5, 2021."... [link to www.ebglaw.com (secure)] Hospitals and their staff are effectively SCREWED. Brandon Regime says NO PAYMENTS for Medicaid or Medicare if Hospitals and Healthcare providers do not comply with the vax mandate. Let's Go Brandon ! "She isn't real.....I can't make her real" "Somewhere between the sacred silence and sleep...Disorder, Disorder, Disorder" "The World is a business Mr Beale..." "You depend on our protection yet you feed us lies from the tablecloth......" ENFJ |
Trained Noticer
(OP) Forum Moderator User ID: 80558422 United States 11/06/2021 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We hired a girl that was a surgical tech in a local hospital. She was fired for not taking the shot. Before she was fired, she was constantly harassed, picked on, and talked about even during surgery by the surgeons and nurses. She was actually relieved to be fired as she never knew what the day would bring. She told me that the hospital is allowed to have 5% of the staff unvaxxed. Soo, the hospital will fire all the "piddly" jobs such as nurses and techs, etc. just to keep the prized surgeons, anesthesiologists and doctors that request medical exemptions. Thats what the little secret is. Im thrilled she was fired, shes the best! She loves working for me and I love having her here. The funny part of this whole thing is that the fired workers turn around and work "travel" this means they go back to work for the same hospital (if they want or other hospital) for more money for a set amount of time, usually 3 months. they can be UN VACKSED !! They can also keep re upping the temp position for a year !! lol OMG nothing makes sense. Hold the line everyone. Life is not worth living unless you LIVE ! FREE ! live free or die ! =) Quoting: Viking Babe That was working for many up to now. Seems because of the Fed reimbursement they now require all contract workers and students, etc. to be fully jabbed. Last Edited by Trained Noticer on 11/06/2021 12:36 PM For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible. (Stuart Chase) It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. (Mark Twain) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80568819 United States 11/06/2021 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think this is about the vax anymore. I think its about reducing the workforce. Why would they want to do that? Less money being paid out by the government? Workers being replaced by AI? Government is broke? Do you miss Trump yet? |
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User ID: 80383054 United States 11/06/2021 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My wife manages a neurosurgery office. They've been taking fewer and fewer "medicaid" patients cos of all the trouble billing etc... but medicare now. That's big and I imagine that is about every docs office in the nation... the few private ones left, that is. Off grid medicine is coming... you just watch and see. yep - no $$ to bill - cost more to chase after it hopefully docs will accept cash under table without fear of license being revoked They don't have to go under the table. They can accept cash now if they desired. One of my former MDs, who I call "god" , is cash only and has been for several decades. Another is one of the few homeopath MDs in the country who also only accepts cash. This is the old school way before insurance companies took over medical. Patients get much better service and treatment, and the MD is not controlled by insurance. Win-win...unless the MD is milking the system for money rather than in it for the health of patients. . . "Stop the lockdown. Stop the masks. Stick your vaccine up your ass." - Tess....AMEN! "What does CENSORSHIP reveal? It reveals FEAR." - Julian Assange . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81078741 Brazil 11/06/2021 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Hospitals and Healthcare system will collapse. Quoting: Trained Noticer I personally know MANY that will retire. Many of the highly skilled in healthcare are older, as there has been a severe shortage of people going into the healthcare professions. Looks like it is intentional. :NWO: I hope this exact thing happens. This is extremely disgusting abuse of power and shows KUST how cucked we all are. They literally control every aspect of our lives. Feels like a fresh punch in the gut. NEVER thought this could or would happen in America. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79543875 United States 11/06/2021 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well they did inflate covid numbers for money scaring everyone. They are to blame for people thinking we are in a huge pandemic. Yes people are sick and some die. But not like people were led to believe. And they held back life saving ivermectin. And IV vitamin c. Not to forget regeneron. So the chickens have come home to roost. I do feel bad for the staff that was trying to fight the greedy evil ones. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 81078741 Brazil 11/06/2021 01:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My wife manages a neurosurgery office. They've been taking fewer and fewer "medicaid" patients cos of all the trouble billing etc... but medicare now. That's big and I imagine that is about every docs office in the nation... the few private ones left, that is. Off grid medicine is coming... you just watch and see. yep - no $$ to bill - cost more to chase after it hopefully docs will accept cash under table without fear of license being revoked They don't have to go under the table. They can accept cash now if they desired. One of my former MDs, who I call "god" , is cash only and has been for several decades. Another is one of the few homeopath MDs in the country who also only accepts cash. This is the old school way before insurance companies took over medical. Patients get much better service and treatment, and the MD is not controlled by insurance. Win-win...unless the MD is milking the system for money rather than in it for the health of patients. . This is a fantastic system for general/continual care, but what will people do when they have an emergency and NEED to go to the hospital, for any reason (not just Covid)? Most do not have thousands or hundreds of thousands of dollars just sitting around to pay for surgery or even 1 night in hospital. I have a feeling hospitals are going to start refusing service to the unvaxxed soon, anyway. That's the direction we're heading. So we may not even need to worry about being able to pay or not. What an epic disaster. |
Trained Noticer
(OP) Forum Moderator User ID: 80558422 United States 11/06/2021 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well they did inflate covid numbers for money scaring everyone. They are to blame for people thinking we are in a huge pandemic. Yes people are sick and some die. But not like people were led to believe. And they held back life saving ivermectin. And IV vitamin c. Not to forget regeneron. So the chickens have come home to roost. I do feel bad for the staff that was trying to fight the greedy evil ones. This ^^^ Seems that Italy just revised their numbers. 97.1 % of reported Covid deaths were NOT Covid deaths. (Can we even believe the remaining 2.9%?) And Flu virtually disappeared. Must have been cured. Go figure. For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible. (Stuart Chase) It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. (Mark Twain) |
TXP
User ID: 80383054 United States 11/06/2021 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a fantastic system for general/continual care, but what will people do when they have an emergency and NEED to go to the hospital, for any reason (not just Covid)? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81078741 Most do not have thousands or hundreds of thousands of dollars just sitting around to pay for surgery or even 1 night in hospital. I have a feeling hospitals are going to start refusing service to the unvaxxed soon, anyway. That's the direction we're heading. So we may not even need to worry about being able to pay or not. What an epic disaster. Carry a catastrophic insurance policy, which is actually where medical insurance started. . . "Stop the lockdown. Stop the masks. Stick your vaccine up your ass." - Tess....AMEN! "What does CENSORSHIP reveal? It reveals FEAR." - Julian Assange . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80363680 United States 11/06/2021 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How long before they go after Medicare and Medicaid patients, excluding them from medical care without the jab? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81097246 Seems like the logical next step! Yup…. Have to wait until they fired all the healthcare workers before they implement this dictate… Yes this will be next. No Vax, then Insurance will not pay for any medical care. No insurance, no admittance to medical care either. Colorado is the example of where this is going. Perhaps they know the medical industry will be over run soon with the Vaxxed as their immune systems totally fail and they start having all kinds of medical issues. Only way they can hide that "it's the Vax" not CoVid, is to deny non-vaxxers, blame all illnesses on them, as the health system implodes from all the vaxxers getting sick and dying and overwhelming the healthcare industry..... |
beeches
User ID: 78973486 United States 11/06/2021 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: deplorable scottfree My wife manages a neurosurgery office. They've been taking fewer and fewer "medicaid" patients cos of all the trouble billing etc... but medicare now. That's big and I imagine that is about every docs office in the nation... the few private ones left, that is. Off grid medicine is coming... you just watch and see. yep - no $$ to bill - cost more to chase after it hopefully docs will accept cash under table without fear of license being revoked They don't have to go under the table. They can accept cash now if they desired. One of my former MDs, who I call "god" , is cash only and has been for several decades. Another is one of the few homeopath MDs in the country who also only accepts cash. This is the old school way before insurance companies took over medical. Patients get much better service and treatment, and the MD is not controlled by insurance. Win-win...unless the MD is milking the system for money rather than in it for the health of patients. . This is a fantastic system for general/continual care, but what will people do when they have an emergency and NEED to go to the hospital, for any reason (not just Covid)? Most do not have thousands or hundreds of thousands of dollars just sitting around to pay for surgery or even 1 night in hospital. I have a feeling hospitals are going to start refusing service to the unvaxxed soon, anyway. That's the direction we're heading. So we may not even need to worry about being able to pay or not. What an epic disaster. the idea of concierge medicine or similar arrangements IS a great thing, has worked well for decades. As for the hospitals..... you are an undocumented illegal alien invader - so it is for free! just charge it against my $450,000, ma'am. Last Edited by beeches on 11/06/2021 01:08 PM Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
beeches
User ID: 78973486 United States 11/06/2021 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a fantastic system for general/continual care, but what will people do when they have an emergency and NEED to go to the hospital, for any reason (not just Covid)? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81078741 Most do not have thousands or hundreds of thousands of dollars just sitting around to pay for surgery or even 1 night in hospital. I have a feeling hospitals are going to start refusing service to the unvaxxed soon, anyway. That's the direction we're heading. So we may not even need to worry about being able to pay or not. What an epic disaster. Carry a catastrophic insurance policy, which is actually where medical insurance started. . dat too Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79906886 United States 11/06/2021 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ..."On November 4, 2021, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Quoting: Trained Noticer Services (CMS) issued an interim final rule (the “Rule”) requiring COVID-19 vaccination for staff at Medicare- and Medicaid-certified providers and suppliers. The Rule became effective on November 5, 2021."... [link to www.ebglaw.com (secure)] Hospitals and their staff are effectively SCREWED. Brandon Regime says NO PAYMENTS for Medicaid or Medicare if Hospitals and Healthcare providers do not comply with the vax mandate. Let's Go Brandon ! :fubikini: Medicare and medicaid don't pay shit anyway, so hospitals and docs can just refuse the patients. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 9343897 United States 11/06/2021 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | serious question here I am on 3 types of blood pressure meds nothing else; what are the best alternatives if they stop meds without a vaccine? I am 66 realtively in good health, will not get the killer jab! I need to find good alt. to b.p. meds when this happens. Have been unable to find much info online . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35741584 United States 11/06/2021 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | serious question here I am on 3 types of blood pressure meds nothing else; what are the best alternatives if they stop meds without a vaccine? I am 66 realtively in good health, will not get the killer jab! I need to find good alt. to b.p. meds when this happens. Have been unable to find much info online . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9343897 Min Chex cardio plus simplex m antronex |
OGEBY
User ID: 80263249 United States 11/06/2021 01:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To hell with the corrupt FEDERAL tyranny... We the People need to take our country back, and it won't be by "voting"!!! We start at the TOP of the pyramid and work all the way down... YeHoVaH give us the strength to do Righteousness and Right Ruling with love, mercy, and truth... Shabbat Shalom... Eliyah |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 9343897 United States 11/06/2021 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | serious question here I am on 3 types of blood pressure meds nothing else; what are the best alternatives if they stop meds without a vaccine? I am 66 realtively in good health, will not get the killer jab! I need to find good alt. to b.p. meds when this happens. Have been unable to find much info online . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9343897 Min Chex cardio plus simplex m antronex |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79830607 United States 11/06/2021 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How about no welfare payment if not vaxxed? Funny how they target every area where public money (your money) is spent to coerce people into getting vaxxed, but conveniently omit the welfare "free dis & free dat" population from a "no jab, no snap card" mandate. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78676239 They are scared of them. |
Texas Best Republic
Don’t Mess With Texas! User ID: 4524052 United States 11/06/2021 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To show all my friends and relatives how far this maniacal bullshit has gone. I expect they will come after the Medicare and Social Security recipients as well, very soon. I hope to God not, but I never expected what we have seen so far, so there's that. ………… For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.….. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80917810 11/06/2021 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ..."On November 4, 2021, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Quoting: Trained Noticer Services (CMS) issued an interim final rule (the “Rule”) requiring COVID-19 vaccination for staff at Medicare- and Medicaid-certified providers and suppliers. The Rule became effective on November 5, 2021."... [link to www.ebglaw.com (secure)] Hospitals and their staff are effectively SCREWED. Brandon Regime says NO PAYMENTS for Medicaid or Medicare if Hospitals and Healthcare providers do not comply with the vax mandate. Let's Go Brandon ! :fubikini: 5 Star thread club |