Hospitals and staff are SCREWED. No pay from Medicare or Medicaid if not vaxxed. DEADline now | |
beeches
User ID: 78973486 United States 11/06/2021 05:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hopefully unvaccinated stop paying taxes,no point contributing to a system that obviously wants you dead and has locked you out of it, can’t make you pay into system you can’t use. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81031441 lots of un- and underemployed won't be paying taxes I wish this bothered their plans, but it doesn't. Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
Ballsy
User ID: 81033349 United States 11/06/2021 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Early in this year I was taken, unvaxxed, unconscious, by ambulance to the ER. They kept me overnight, but wanted to keep me longer - as a paying guest, but I refused. I was on Medicare, and when I got an itemized statement, many of their charges were denied, making a $60,000 bill reduced to $6,000. For 5 months they kept challenging the declined or reduced items unsuccessfully. For instance they wanted to call a few questions a test or assessment for which they charged several hundred dollars. There were several of items like that - to inflate the bill, because they didn't do anything to actually treat me because there was nothing to do since it was a reaction to Ambiem and just needed "tincture of thyme" to come out of it. What alarmed me the most was they billed me for a covid test which was neg. |
Ballsy
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beeches
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 9343897 United States 11/06/2021 05:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thanks for the responses to b.p. meds I am not sure what is the reason for 3 except I usually have drank too much beer over time . I am biabetic type 2 also. But when this crazy biden b.s. starts hitting us harder I don't like many others want to be without knowledge of how to survive if they pulled the meds card if you don't get jabbed all info is appreciated would like to get off these meds completely. |
Ballsy
User ID: 81033349 United States 11/06/2021 05:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hopefully unvaccinated stop paying taxes,no point contributing to a system that obviously wants you dead and has locked you out of it, can’t make you pay into system you can’t use. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81031441 lots of un- and underemployed won't be paying taxes I wish this bothered their plans, but it doesn't. I like your thinking! Maybe in the future I will get jabbed instead of the test. Last Edited by Ballsy on 11/06/2021 05:45 PM |
Ballsy
User ID: 81033349 United States 11/06/2021 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thanks for the responses to b.p. meds I am not sure what is the reason for 3 except I usually have drank too much beer over time . I am biabetic type 2 also. But when this crazy biden b.s. starts hitting us harder I don't like many others want to be without knowledge of how to survive if they pulled the meds card if you don't get jabbed all info is appreciated would like to get off these meds completely. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9343897 Fasting is a good way to get your sugar numbers down to normal, given enough time. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80365094 United States 11/06/2021 05:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I realize most folks are broke, I also realize insurance co.s are scumbags, so pay them direct. Anything. Ask them who is volunteering, who took cuts in pay, and slip them some cash. Just a thought. Maybe cash in on some other insurance, convert it to cash, pay using that. BARTER, anything to make it through till spring. |
Ballsy
User ID: 81033349 United States 11/06/2021 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I realize most folks are broke, I also realize insurance co.s are scumbags, so pay them direct. Anything. Ask them who is volunteering, who took cuts in pay, and slip them some cash. Just a thought. Maybe cash in on some other insurance, convert it to cash, pay using that. BARTER, anything to make it through till spring. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80365094 Yup, cash is KING. What are you expecting in the Spring? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15766710 United States 11/06/2021 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
AnonyMouse Howard
User ID: 77898480 United States 11/06/2021 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I guess no one has realized that they are surrounded by people(Doctors and Nurses) who know how to cause a death and make it look like a natural event. |
MisterBlisterr
User ID: 81070853 Australia 11/06/2021 06:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do you need an exemption from something that is voluntary? I have said this before and it's like the words were invisible to everybody. Get a Blacks law dictionary. Look up mandate / mandatory. Read the defintion. A mandate is ENTRIELY VOLUNTARY. It requires your consent. English and Legalese are two different languages using the same words. They can mandate till they are blue in the face. Only effects people who consent to it. It's a psy-op |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80591803 United States 11/06/2021 06:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sooooo... Where are all of the screaming libs, kicking in politician doors over the poor and elderly facing medical treatment center banishments and closures? Helloooo... Socialized medicine gang?... The poorest of poor are about to get f'd right up their petooties. |
Trained Noticer
(OP) Forum Moderator User ID: 80558422 United States 11/06/2021 07:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sooooo... Where are all of the screaming libs, kicking in politician doors over the poor and elderly facing medical treatment center banishments and closures? Helloooo... Socialized medicine gang?... The poorest of poor are about to get f'd right up their petooties. For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible. (Stuart Chase) It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. (Mark Twain) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80568819 United States 11/06/2021 08:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Hospitals and Healthcare system will collapse. Quoting: Trained Noticer I personally know MANY that will retire. Many of the highly skilled in healthcare are older, as there has been a severe shortage of people going into the healthcare professions. Looks like it is intentional. :NWO: We're going to lose the rest of the older physicians who were true doctors. They understood what the newer physicians do not. What we are seeing today are businessmen with needles and prescription pads. I once had a doctor tell me ,when my spouse was in a respiratory care unit,that it wasn't fiscally feasible to keep him till he was weaned off the vent. They wanted to send him to a nursing home to do that. I literally watched the head MD of that unit warp from the MD to the CPA. Two days after he was transferred to the nsg home,he was back in the hospital. It seems they make a lot for a new admission than for one thats using resources. Its ALWAYS about the money in healthcare. |
Jake Warlock
User ID: 80848634 United States 11/06/2021 08:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ..."On November 4, 2021, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Quoting: Trained Noticer Services (CMS) issued an interim final rule (the “Rule”) requiring COVID-19 vaccination for staff at Medicare- and Medicaid-certified providers and suppliers. The Rule became effective on November 5, 2021."... [link to www.ebglaw.com (secure)] Hospitals and their staff are effectively SCREWED. Brandon Regime says NO PAYMENTS for Medicaid or Medicare if Hospitals and Healthcare providers do not comply with the vax mandate. Let's Go Brandon ! WOW THIS IS FOOKED UP! *Don't whine when there isn't enough caretakers to take care of your elderly parents, via hospice..* jakey |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79899341 United States 11/06/2021 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do you need an exemption from something that is voluntary? I have said this before and it's like the words were invisible to everybody. Get a Blacks law dictionary. Look up mandate / mandatory. Read the defintion. A mandate is ENTRIELY VOLUNTARY. It requires your consent. English and Legalese are two different languages using the same words. They can mandate till they are blue in the face. Only effects people who consent to it. |
Iago's Love
User ID: 79796437 United States 11/06/2021 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The hospitals are not screwed...the PATIENT will be screwed. Some facilities can just stop taking patients with CMS coverage. This new rule does not just apply to hospitals : From the site : [link to www.natlawreview.com (secure)] The requirements of the IFR apply to health care facilities that participate in Medicare and Medicaid and that are subject to Conditions or Requirements of Participation, including but not limited to: Ambulatory surgical centers; Hospices; Hospitals, such as acute care hospitals, psychiatric hospitals, hospital swing beds, long-term care hospitals, and children’s hospitals; Long-term care facilities; Home health agencies; Comprehensive outpatient rehabilitation facilities; Critical access hospitals; Home infusion therapy suppliers; and Rural health clinics/federally qualified health centers. While the IFR does not directly apply to physician offices, which are not regulated by CMS Conditions or Requirements of Participation, physicians may nevertheless be required to vaccinate as a result of their relationships with other health care entities. For example, the IFR requires hospitals to implement policies and procedures to ensure “individuals who provide care, treatment, or other services under contract or by other arrangement” are fully vaccinated. |
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Arlie27
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Iago's Love
User ID: 79796437 United States 11/06/2021 10:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The hospitals are not screwed...the PATIENT will be screwed. Some facilities can just stop taking patients with CMS coverage. Quoting: Iago's Love This new rule does not just apply to hospitals : From the site : [link to www.natlawreview.com (secure)] The requirements of the IFR apply to health care facilities that participate in Medicare and Medicaid and that are subject to Conditions or Requirements of Participation, including but not limited to: Ambulatory surgical centers; Hospices; Hospitals, such as acute care hospitals, psychiatric hospitals, hospital swing beds, long-term care hospitals, and children’s hospitals; Long-term care facilities; Home health agencies; Comprehensive outpatient rehabilitation facilities; Critical access hospitals; Home infusion therapy suppliers; and Rural health clinics/federally qualified health centers. While the IFR does not directly apply to physician offices, which are not regulated by CMS Conditions or Requirements of Participation, physicians may nevertheless be required to vaccinate as a result of their relationships with other health care entities. For example, the IFR requires hospitals to implement policies and procedures to ensure “individuals who provide care, treatment, or other services under contract or by other arrangement” are fully vaccinated. BUT>>>> Major Insurance providers such as Blue Cross/Blue Shield and AmeriHealth follow CMS Guidelines.... so, it may just be a matter of time until anyone with insurance coverage will be required to get a vaccine in order to get treatment and medication. EVERYONE IS F-cked... The American Health Care System and the American Citizens. Only the Rich and Healthy will survive. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79476499 United States 11/06/2021 11:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow!! So they offered the hospitals billions to feed poison to patients ultimately causing the mass deaths. Now they want the hospital staff to take poisons so they don't have to pay those billions. Genius! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4803585 United States 11/06/2021 11:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have already asked my job for a religious exemption. If I get it, great. If not, I am fully prepared to walk away from my job as a nurse over this. Quoting: no-one-special You are in good company. I hope everyone sticks together. Many are going to hurt badly, as they cannot survive without a paycheck. Terrible situation. Looks like the ship hit an iceberg... :titanic: That's the key, sticking together. What can the banks do if people stop paying their mortgage.....Can't throw everybody onto the street...... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26179533 United States 11/06/2021 11:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Hospitals and Healthcare system will collapse. Quoting: Trained Noticer I personally know MANY that will retire. Many of the highly skilled in healthcare are older, as there has been a severe shortage of people going into the healthcare professions. Looks like it is intentional. :NWO: My doctor timed his early retirement to the the new Oboma Care. Said he didn't believe in ripping people off for every penny they ever had. True story. Now your money isn't enough. They want your dead corps too. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26179533 United States 11/06/2021 11:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79476499 So they offered the hospitals billions to feed poison to patients ultimately causing the mass deaths. Now they want the hospital staff to take poisons so they don't have to pay those billions. Genius! No problem. Who needs jobs & health care once they are dead? . Of course population decline will look bad on paper so they sneak in illegals who will pretend to be citizens. Heck they could even take your SS number and claim your work record. Biden & Co. wouldn't care to notice. "You think they're on us?" ....."Hell no." "Woohooo!" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79370961 United States 11/07/2021 12:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mean what’s the worries? It’s Trumps warp speed injection, no one will be forced to get. At least that’s what everyone says in his defense… Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81098327 Not a trump fan, but you’re a retarded liberal if you don’t the difference. Enjoy your communism. They’re going to kill you too. Typical idiotic answer of Trump defenders. You people said the same shit almost a year ago. Everyone who called out Trump for pushing HIS warp speed injections is called a Chinese troll and communist supporter. Just like the leftists you all parrot the same shit all day long without any critical thought or logical argument, ever. Why don't you stupid fucktard shills go and spout your idiocy somewhere else. Every fucking thread, Trump this and Trump that. For fuck sake, get a life. Thank you, that needed to be said. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79370961 United States 11/07/2021 12:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is totally illegal to prescribe a "one size fits all" medical treatment like that. It violates all medical ethics. Quoting: Arlie27 I Think they stopped worrying about medical ethics long before covid. In fact it's precisely due to lack of medical ethics that covid even exists. If scientists and doctors collectively refused to research using aborted fetus cells, we would even be talking about this shit right now. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71758435 United States 11/07/2021 12:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looks like the government is backing a move by 80% of the healthcare insurance companies to NOT pay for any individual claims for hospitalization due to covid if you have not had the vaccine…they will pay nothing no matter your coverage…so the government is financially destroying citizens who choose not to get the experimental vaccine…no job, no insurance and even if you have insurance no coverage if unvaccinated for covid….wow so much for freedoms! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78255182 Mexico 11/07/2021 12:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, but they are STRONGLY DISCOURAGED from giving exemptions. Doctors are threatened with their licenses for giving out Medical exemptions. You know if a Hospital gives out more than VERY FEW religious exemptions, the Feds will claim Non-compliance and not pay. 'Tis the way of the Great Reset. SchwabOz has spoken! :SchwabOz: I am a doctor, I got a religious exemptiom The Chief Medical Officer told me that less than 5% of staff received an exemption, either religious or medical |