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Hospitals and staff are SCREWED. No pay from Medicare or Medicaid if not vaxxed. DEADline now

 
beeches

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Hopefully unvaccinated stop paying taxes,no point contributing to a system that obviously wants you dead and has locked you out of it, can’t make you pay into system you can’t use.
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lots of un- and underemployed won't be paying taxes


I wish this bothered their plans, but it doesn't.
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Early in this year I was taken, unvaxxed, unconscious, by ambulance to the ER. They kept me overnight, but wanted to keep me longer - as a paying guest, but I refused.

I was on Medicare, and when I got an itemized statement, many of their charges were denied, making a $60,000 bill reduced to $6,000. For 5 months they kept challenging the declined or reduced items unsuccessfully.

For instance they wanted to call a few questions a test or assessment for which they charged several hundred dollars. There were several of items like that - to inflate the bill, because they didn't do anything to actually treat me because there was nothing to do since it was a reaction to Ambiem and just needed "tincture of thyme" to come out of it.

What alarmed me the most was they billed me for a covid test which was neg.
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I am wondering if in the future they will deny me entrance to their ER since I am unvaxxed.
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I am wondering if in the future they will deny me entrance to their ER since I am unvaxxed.
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you may not want to go
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Re: Hospitals and staff are SCREWED. No pay from Medicare or Medicaid if not vaxxed. DEADline now
thanks for the responses to b.p. meds I am not sure what is the reason for 3 except I usually have drank too much beer over time . I am biabetic type 2 also. But when this crazy biden b.s. starts hitting us harder I don't like many others want to be without knowledge of how to survive if they pulled the meds card if you don't get jabbed all info is appreciated would like to get off these meds completely.
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Hopefully unvaccinated stop paying taxes,no point contributing to a system that obviously wants you dead and has locked you out of it, can’t make you pay into system you can’t use.
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lots of un- and underemployed won't be paying taxes


I wish this bothered their plans, but it doesn't.
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I like your thinking!

Maybe in the future I will get jabbed instead of the test.

Last Edited by Ballsy on 11/06/2021 05:45 PM
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Re: Hospitals and staff are SCREWED. No pay from Medicare or Medicaid if not vaxxed. DEADline now
thanks for the responses to b.p. meds I am not sure what is the reason for 3 except I usually have drank too much beer over time . I am biabetic type 2 also. But when this crazy biden b.s. starts hitting us harder I don't like many others want to be without knowledge of how to survive if they pulled the meds card if you don't get jabbed all info is appreciated would like to get off these meds completely.
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Fasting is a good way to get your sugar numbers down to normal, given enough time.
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I realize most folks are broke, I also realize insurance co.s are scumbags, so pay them direct. Anything. Ask them who is volunteering, who took cuts in pay, and slip them some cash. Just a thought. Maybe cash in on some other insurance, convert it to cash, pay using that. BARTER, anything to make it through till spring.
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I realize most folks are broke, I also realize insurance co.s are scumbags, so pay them direct. Anything. Ask them who is volunteering, who took cuts in pay, and slip them some cash. Just a thought. Maybe cash in on some other insurance, convert it to cash, pay using that. BARTER, anything to make it through till spring.
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Yup, cash is KING.

What are you expecting in the Spring?
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Re: Hospitals and staff are SCREWED. No pay from Medicare or Medicaid if not vaxxed. DEADline now
And you know what is next... no coverage without the death needle
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It is amazing to me that administrators would enforce tyranny.

I guess no one has realized that they are surrounded by

people(Doctors and Nurses) who know how to cause a death and

make it look like a natural event.
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Re: Hospitals and staff are SCREWED. No pay from Medicare or Medicaid if not vaxxed. DEADline now
does this prevent them from giving exemptions?
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Why do you need an exemption from something that is voluntary?

I have said this before and it's like the words were invisible to everybody. Get a Blacks law dictionary. Look up mandate / mandatory. Read the defintion.

A mandate is ENTRIELY VOLUNTARY. It requires your consent. English and Legalese are two different languages using the same words. They can mandate till they are blue in the face. Only effects people who consent to it.
It's a psy-op
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does this prevent them from giving exemptions?
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Sooooo...


Where are all of the screaming libs, kicking in politician doors over the poor and elderly facing medical treatment center banishments and closures?

Helloooo...

Socialized medicine gang?...

The poorest of poor are about to get f'd right up their petooties.
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Re: Hospitals and staff are SCREWED. No pay from Medicare or Medicaid if not vaxxed. DEADline now
does this prevent them from giving exemptions?
 Quoting: beeches


Sooooo...


Where are all of the screaming libs, kicking in politician doors over the poor and elderly facing medical treatment center banishments and closures?

Helloooo...

Socialized medicine gang?...

The poorest of poor are about to get f'd right up their petooties.
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triggered1
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it's all binden


get rid of biden and it all goes back to normal

bring back trump and take the miracle vaxx

own nothing and be trump's dick holder
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Shill ..!!!
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Re: Hospitals and staff are SCREWED. No pay from Medicare or Medicaid if not vaxxed. DEADline now
The Hospitals and Healthcare system will collapse.

I personally know MANY that will retire.

Many of the highly skilled in healthcare are older,
as there has been a severe shortage of people going
into the healthcare professions.

Looks like it is intentional.

:NWO:
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We're going to lose the rest of the older physicians who were true doctors.
They understood what the newer physicians do not.

What we are seeing today are businessmen with needles and prescription pads.
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I once had a doctor tell me ,when my spouse was in a respiratory care unit,that it wasn't fiscally feasible to keep him till he was weaned off the vent. They wanted to send him to a nursing home to do that. I literally watched the head MD of that unit warp from the MD to the CPA.
Two days after he was transferred to the nsg home,he was back in the hospital. It seems they make a lot for a new admission than for one thats using resources. Its ALWAYS about the money in healthcare.
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..."On November 4, 2021, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid
Services (CMS) issued an interim final rule (the “Rule”)
requiring COVID-19 vaccination for staff at Medicare- and
Medicaid-certified providers and suppliers. The Rule
became effective on November 5, 2021."...


[link to www.ebglaw.com (secure)]

Hospitals and their staff are effectively SCREWED.

Brandon Regime says NO PAYMENTS for Medicaid or Medicare if
Hospitals and Healthcare providers do not comply with the
vax mandate.

Let's Go Brandon !
fubikini
 Quoting: Trained Noticer


WOW THIS IS FOOKED UP!

*Don't whine when there isn't enough caretakers to take care of your elderly parents, via hospice..*
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does this prevent them from giving exemptions?
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Why do you need an exemption from something that is voluntary?

I have said this before and it's like the words were invisible to everybody. Get a Blacks law dictionary. Look up mandate / mandatory. Read the defintion.

A mandate is ENTRIELY VOLUNTARY. It requires your consent. English and Legalese are two different languages using the same words. They can mandate till they are blue in the face. Only effects people who consent to it.

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The hospitals are not screwed...the PATIENT will be screwed. Some facilities can just stop taking patients with CMS coverage.

This new rule does not just apply to hospitals :

From the site : [link to www.natlawreview.com (secure)]

The requirements of the IFR apply to health care facilities that participate in Medicare and Medicaid and that are subject to Conditions or Requirements of Participation, including but not limited to:

Ambulatory surgical centers;

Hospices;

Hospitals, such as acute care hospitals, psychiatric hospitals, hospital swing beds, long-term care hospitals, and children’s hospitals;

Long-term care facilities;

Home health agencies;

Comprehensive outpatient rehabilitation facilities;

Critical access hospitals;

Home infusion therapy suppliers; and

Rural health clinics/federally qualified health centers.

While the IFR does not directly apply to physician offices, which are not regulated by CMS Conditions or Requirements of Participation, physicians may nevertheless be required to vaccinate as a result of their relationships with other health care entities. For example, the IFR requires hospitals to implement policies and procedures to ensure “individuals who provide care, treatment, or other services under contract or by other arrangement” are fully vaccinated.
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This is good, all those low paying jobs that nobody wants to do anymore can go to these clowns, go flip some burgers.
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It is totally illegal to prescribe a "one size fits all" medical treatment like that. It violates all medical ethics.
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Re: Hospitals and staff are SCREWED. No pay from Medicare or Medicaid if not vaxxed. DEADline now
The hospitals are not screwed...the PATIENT will be screwed. Some facilities can just stop taking patients with CMS coverage.

This new rule does not just apply to hospitals :

From the site : [link to www.natlawreview.com (secure)]

The requirements of the IFR apply to health care facilities that participate in Medicare and Medicaid and that are subject to Conditions or Requirements of Participation, including but not limited to:

Ambulatory surgical centers;

Hospices;

Hospitals, such as acute care hospitals, psychiatric hospitals, hospital swing beds, long-term care hospitals, and children’s hospitals;

Long-term care facilities;

Home health agencies;

Comprehensive outpatient rehabilitation facilities;

Critical access hospitals;

Home infusion therapy suppliers; and

Rural health clinics/federally qualified health centers.

While the IFR does not directly apply to physician offices, which are not regulated by CMS Conditions or Requirements of Participation, physicians may nevertheless be required to vaccinate as a result of their relationships with other health care entities. For example, the IFR requires hospitals to implement policies and procedures to ensure “individuals who provide care, treatment, or other services under contract or by other arrangement” are fully vaccinated.
 Quoting: Iago's Love



BUT>>>> Major Insurance providers such as Blue Cross/Blue Shield and AmeriHealth follow CMS Guidelines.... so, it may just be a matter of time until anyone with insurance coverage will be required to get a vaccine in order to get treatment and medication.

EVERYONE IS F-cked... The American Health Care System and the American Citizens. Only the Rich and Healthy will survive.
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Wow!!

So they offered the hospitals billions to feed poison to patients ultimately causing the mass deaths. Now they want the hospital staff to take poisons so they don't have to pay those billions.

Genius!
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I have already asked my job for a religious exemption. If I get it, great. If not, I am fully prepared to walk away from my job as a nurse over this.
 Quoting: no-one-special


You are in good company.

I hope everyone sticks together.

Many are going to hurt badly, as they cannot survive without a paycheck.

Terrible situation.

Looks like the ship hit an iceberg...

:titanic:
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That's the key, sticking together. What can the banks do if people stop paying their mortgage.....Can't throw everybody onto the street......
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The Hospitals and Healthcare system will collapse.

I personally know MANY that will retire.

Many of the highly skilled in healthcare are older,
as there has been a severe shortage of people going
into the healthcare professions.

Looks like it is intentional.

:NWO:
 Quoting: Trained Noticer


My doctor timed his early retirement to the the new Oboma Care.

Said he didn't believe in ripping people off for every penny they ever had.

True story.


Now your money isn't enough. They want your dead corps too.

.
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Wow!!

So they offered the hospitals billions to feed poison to patients ultimately causing the mass deaths. Now they want the hospital staff to take poisons so they don't have to pay those billions.

Genius!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79476499


No problem. Who needs jobs & health care once they are dead?
.

Of course population decline will look bad on paper so they sneak in illegals who will pretend to be citizens.

Heck they could even take your SS number and claim your work record. Biden & Co. wouldn't care to notice.


"You think they're on us?"ogrrr

oridin....."Hell no." "Woohooo!"
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I mean what’s the worries? It’s Trumps warp speed injection, no one will be forced to get. At least that’s what everyone says in his defense…
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Not a trump fan, but you’re a retarded liberal if you don’t the difference. Enjoy your communism. They’re going to kill you too.
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Typical idiotic answer of Trump defenders. You people said the same shit almost a year ago.
Everyone who called out Trump for pushing HIS warp speed injections is called a Chinese troll and communist supporter.
Just like the leftists you all parrot the same shit all day long without any critical thought or logical argument, ever.
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Why don't you stupid fucktard shills go and spout your idiocy somewhere else. Every fucking thread, Trump this and Trump that. For fuck sake, get a life.
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Thank you, that needed to be said.
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It is totally illegal to prescribe a "one size fits all" medical treatment like that. It violates all medical ethics.
 Quoting: Arlie27


I Think they stopped worrying about medical ethics long before covid. In fact it's precisely due to lack of medical ethics that covid even exists. If scientists and doctors collectively refused to research using aborted fetus cells, we would even be talking about this shit right now.
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Looks like the government is backing a move by 80% of the healthcare insurance companies to NOT pay for any individual claims for hospitalization due to covid if you have not had the vaccine…they will pay nothing no matter your coverage…so the government is financially destroying citizens who choose not to get the experimental vaccine…no job, no insurance and even if you have insurance no coverage if unvaccinated for covid….wow so much for freedoms!
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Re: Hospitals and staff are SCREWED. No pay from Medicare or Medicaid if not vaxxed. DEADline now
does this prevent them from giving exemptions?
 Quoting: beeches


No, but they are STRONGLY DISCOURAGED from giving exemptions.

Doctors are threatened with their licenses for giving out
Medical exemptions.

You know if a Hospital gives out more than VERY FEW religious
exemptions, the Feds will claim Non-compliance and not pay.

'Tis the way of the Great Reset.

SchwabOz has spoken!
:SchwabOz:
 Quoting: Trained Noticer


I am a doctor, I got a religious exemptiom

The Chief Medical Officer told me that less than 5% of staff received an exemption, either religious or medical





GLP