Dr. John Sarno's ideas on chronic pain -- Miracle of psychology, or woo-woo foolishness? | |
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(OP) User ID: 77784512 United States 11/09/2021 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is a clip of Stoessel's old 20/20 segment on how Sarno fixed his back pain. [link to youtu.be (secure)] -- Barbaric Yawp Sounder |
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(OP) User ID: 79714205 Japan 11/09/2021 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | years ago, I got a chance to talk to the then-president of the national association of medical hypnotherapists, who had a practice in Manhattan Quoting: 91GMC he told me that by using hypnosis, doctors can reduce medication in patients with chronic pain by 25 to 30 percent I believe you. The mind is very powerful. I mean, we have all heard of psychosomatic illness...but we usually think of that as being in nutty people or attention seekers. Looks like Sarno is saying MOST people with back pain have fallen for the idea that it is caused by slipped discs, etc -- which everybody has -- and it's all just bunk the medical establishment made up to get our money from unnecessary surgeries. I will say that the few people I know who have had back surgeries never had their pain go away due to these procedures...so there might be something to this. -- Barbaric Yawp Sounder |
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User ID: 77993933 United States 11/09/2021 09:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | years ago, I got a chance to talk to the then-president of the national association of medical hypnotherapists, who had a practice in Manhattan Quoting: 91GMC he told me that by using hypnosis, doctors can reduce medication in patients with chronic pain by 25 to 30 percent I believe you. The mind is very powerful. I mean, we have all heard of psychosomatic illness...but we usually think of that as being in nutty people or attention seekers. Looks like Sarno is saying MOST people with back pain have fallen for the idea that it is caused by slipped discs, etc -- which everybody has -- and it's all just bunk the medical establishment made up to get our money from unnecessary surgeries. I will say that the few people I know who have had back surgeries never had their pain go away due to these procedures...so there might be something to this. I hope and PRAY that there is some way for people with chronic pain to find relief. I have many loved ones with crippling pain from accidents. I will have to do some research on the late Dr. John Sarno and his approach to healing chronic back pain. Thanks OP for this thread. Just because YOU don’t believe in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No ! The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it. "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short! A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. ~Proverbs 18:2 For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - James Keller Checkd, Keked, and Rekt! #Kids2 |
Loup Garou
User ID: 77993933 United States 11/09/2021 09:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | snip for discussion.. He gave the various forms of chronic pain the collective name “tension myositis syndrome” (T.M.S.), which, apart from its psychological roots, he attributed to mild oxygen deprivation caused by reduced blood flow to muscles and nerves throughout the body. [link to www.nytimes.com (secure)] 'Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for 'fair use' for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use' **-** Truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. Just because YOU don’t believe in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No ! The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it. "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short! A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. ~Proverbs 18:2 For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - James Keller Checkd, Keked, and Rekt! #Kids2 |
GrimReaper20
User ID: 60953828 United States 11/09/2021 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sarno's method 100% cured me of unimaginable back pain 20 years ago, to the point where I would LITERALLY, at times be on the floor with my back locked up in a spasm as tight as you can make a fist. After unsuccessfully going to a couple of the top sports medicine doctors in NYC, including one who worked for the NY Jets....and others who tried telling me the ergonomics of my workspace was causing it (WTF)...not to mention MRI's, chiropractors...I was miserable. On a whim, my buddy said "you should go to that back doctor Howard Stern always talks about" I looked into it and ended up reading his book (something like) "Healing Back Pain, The Mind Body Connection"....and literally within days...100% cured without a single relapse in 20 years. I kid you not, my back was so bad I couldn't even bend over to lift up the damn toilet seat to piss without pain. I couldn't finish a round of golf without being in total agony. Sarno noticed in thousands of patients who suffered these symptoms, nearly all fit a similar profile of person: typically young, male, over-achiever, undergoing major life change or stress...that was me. I was helping to care for a parent who was stricken with cancer...selling 2 houses and buying a new house, my wife pregnant with out 1st child...and a high-paying job in NYC that was bought by an equity firm where the writing was on the wall that the gravy-train was just about over. OH, and on top of that, a 4 hour commute to/from Manhattan where I was working at the time. Sarno called it TMS (I think)...tension mitosis syndrome...where the body & subconscious tries to "protect" the mind from focusing on the outside stress, it creates a "diversion" in the form of a back or neck pain so the person instead focuses on that. How is it solved? Simply by realizing it's happening....it sounds too simple, but I swear to God it's 100% true and cured me 100% from the most horrible, chronic back pain you could possibly imagine. Look up the book on Amazon and read the thousands of reviews...how can they ALL be bullshit? I'm telling you...it's not. I hope this helps EDIT: By the way....I gave this book to a buddy about a year after I was cured who was having the same type of issues in his neck muscles...he also swears he was 100% cured as well and he then gave the book to a relative of his. We both swear we were cured by it Last Edited by GrimReaper20 on 11/09/2021 10:07 PM |
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(OP) User ID: 79714205 Japan 11/10/2021 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sarno's method 100% cured me of unimaginable back pain 20 years ago, to the point where I would LITERALLY, at times be on the floor with my back locked up in a spasm as tight as you can make a fist. Quoting: GrimReaper20 After unsuccessfully going to a couple of the top sports medicine doctors in NYC, including one who worked for the NY Jets....and others who tried telling me the ergonomics of my workspace was causing it (WTF)...not to mention MRI's, chiropractors...I was miserable. On a whim, my buddy said "you should go to that back doctor Howard Stern always talks about" I looked into it and ended up reading his book (something like) "Healing Back Pain, The Mind Body Connection"....and literally within days...100% cured without a single relapse in 20 years. I kid you not, my back was so bad I couldn't even bend over to lift up the damn toilet seat to piss without pain. I couldn't finish a round of golf without being in total agony. Sarno noticed in thousands of patients who suffered these symptoms, nearly all fit a similar profile of person: typically young, male, over-achiever, undergoing major life change or stress...that was me. I was helping to care for a parent who was stricken with cancer...selling 2 houses and buying a new house, my wife pregnant with out 1st child...and a high-paying job in NYC that was bought by an equity firm where the writing was on the wall that the gravy-train was just about over. OH, and on top of that, a 4 hour commute to/from Manhattan where I was working at the time. Sarno called it TMS (I think)...tension mitosis syndrome...where the body & subconscious tries to "protect" the mind from focusing on the outside stress, it creates a "diversion" in the form of a back or neck pain so the person instead focuses on that. How is it solved? Simply by realizing it's happening....it sounds too simple, but I swear to God it's 100% true and cured me 100% from the most horrible, chronic back pain you could possibly imagine. Look up the book on Amazon and read the thousands of reviews...how can they ALL be bullshit? I'm telling you...it's not. I hope this helps EDIT: By the way....I gave this book to a buddy about a year after I was cured who was having the same type of issues in his neck muscles...he also swears he was 100% cured as well and he then gave the book to a relative of his. We both swear we were cured by it Thank you for sharing your story!!! -- Barbaric Yawp Sounder |