Germany COVID cases in ICU, 85% unvaccinated.

How are they deciding the vaccinated versus the unvaccinated ?

In USA you are “unvaccinated” if you are not up to date with ALL
Available shots and boosters

AND you are NOT COUNTED as vaccinated until two weeks AFTER your shots

I am not pro nor anti vax.. since I don't know the 100% truth. So i will try to keep myself unvaccinated until I really don't have a choice...

BUT I am "pro-freedom of choice"

Good one.. i will send this question to him now

Well dear Nagabonar, I don't know what is going on the the Charité, if you mean the big hospital in Berlin. But regarding your second paragraph: we do have tax passposts / vaccination cards, and there certainly are requirements - no going out to eat or staying in public places if you are not vaccinated or recovered or tested. Also, German minds may be in some cases analytic, but there is a huge influence which makes all Germans stop in their tracks; they are carrying collective guilt about the Nazi era (erroneously in my opinion), which has been reinforced daily by media for the last 70 odd years. This makes many Germans retire in shame, and stops them from doing the "analyzing" you speak of. There are just as many sheep here as anywhere else, and fear is running high, except perhaps in rural locations.

so you need to learn. here you go:

[link to wissenschafftplus.de (secure)]

or if you prefer listening to a presentation:

[link to odysee.com (secure)]

Awesome, thank you so much for this ammunition. He is a pilot got the shots very early despite my warnings and he plans to get the booster.. by the way I am half German and grew up there but haven't been back for 20 years plus hence my analytic mind comment

First time yesterday we had a big discussion ongoing until now about this issue since our mom fell sick recently (also super pro vax, i am the black sheep)... The preleminary diagnosis is a genetic inheritable sickness no one of the older generation ever had in my family

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And yes it's the one in Berlin.. is his statement true that it's one of the best?

The way officials count those ICU numbers are heavily tampered with.

If you are vaxxed and you are on an ICU, you only count as a covid case if you have symptomps.
If you are unvaxxed and you are on an ICU, you count as a covid case, even if you dont have covid related symptoms.

To make it clear:

Two guys, both 25 are involved in a heavy car crash and need ICU care. One is fully vaxxed, the other one is unvaxxed. Both are asymptotic covid 19 positive.
The vaxxed one will list as a car crash patient and the unvaxxed will list as a covid 19 patient in the official statistics.

There are no real public available data sets about the vaxxed/unvaxxed distribution of symptomatic covid cases in german hospitals.

Its a fucking propaganda shit show here.




Yeah, it's considered as one of the bests in germany.

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It's fake news, because people who had only one shot or who had 2 but where 14 days haven't passed yet are counted as unvaxxed. They're using this trick because the new narrative is that there's a "pandemic if the unvaxxed".

Believe me i have gone into the deepest holes on both sides.. 10 years e-commerce experience, search is my bread and butter

But yes this one i have not read but will do so after I have cleared this hurdle with my bro.. thank u!

That is very interesting, Mr 666, because I have a friend who works in a general hospital and he says the exact opposite.
I guess its all down to who you choose to believe. The snake oil salesmen who are selling this poison and anyone else profiting somehow . . .
Or those with no vested interest in the matter.

Certainly it is very well known and has high reputation. I know people someone who works there now and he was highly congratulated for getting in. However, this does not mean that they work in a "holistic" manner. I would say that the pharmaceutical industries have a very strong hold in Germany, as elsewhere also.

Yes: a propaganda show. I know someone who works in a hospital here in Bavaria: they lie about statistics and fudge the numbers - all money-related. And many know and say nothing for fear of losing their jobs. And also, saying that emergency stations are "full" is in some cases a result of REDUCING THE NUMBER OF BEDS, so they get fuller more quickly, if you see what I mean ...

[link to www.rki.de (secure)]

Ok makes sense although surely majority of vaxxed are past the 14 days by now? ...

Okay this is a sensitive one.. he is
always so sure about his friends..

Is your friend working in a general hospital in Germany or another country?

I checked the Google reviews.. patient and customer's opinion not stellar though i have to say

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It's a big report.. i see on page 14 the number of ICU patients but not really mentioning number of vaccinated/ unvaccinated..

Would be great if you could point to the paragraph if available here? If not I will check it later..

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Point is that it's his good friend whom he trust, a medical professional. I am quite sure that she would notice that if a car crash gets reported as Covid.

I completely get your point though.. this happened to an associate of mine, dengue fever hospitalized, yellow fever also.. and after 2 days they slapped Covid on top to get some cool government funds I guess. He got a nice VIP room though with compliments from our government that doesnt give a shit about the real problems

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So .. probably a combination of several factors , culminating into fake data of high percentages of unvaccinated in ICU. I will make a nice list for analysis now. Thank you again!

What about Israel the highest vaccination 86% and also high hospitalization????

Data status 11/10/2021
Around 23 percent of hospitalized adults under 60 years of age (U60) and 45 percent of patients aged 60 and over (over 60) were vaccinated. In the summer of August, these values were 6 percent for the U60 and 18 percent for the 60+.

18 percent of the vaccinated U60 patients died. For those over 60 it is 42 percent.

It's very simple. They're manipulating and massaging the numbers. That's it. There is no 'pandemic of the unvaccinated'.

You either understand now that there is no truth in the media or government or you dont.

It's kind of grey propaganda in Germany. They let out part of the information (distribution vaxxed/unvaxxed symptomatic covid positive cases) to support their narrative.

In the end all I can say about my environment: most of the vaxxed are all sick with the common cold and stuff like that, especially at my work place. Only around 10% of our employees are unvacced and as far as I can tell, they are just doing fine.

yet I hear in the USA and other places they will not treat or let people into some large hospitals until they show proof they had the shot (Their Papers).

Nice. hard data reference to start with, definately deserves a deep dive in. Although I don't think that 18 percent vaccinated of u60 who died proves the BS flag right....

but probably number of over 60's cases are in the majority? Combined with the other reasons mentioned makes for some compelling arguments which could make sense

Yes I do agree of you.

However, my brothers argument is that he does not take it from the internet but got this information from a trusted friend who works in one of the best hospitals in Germany... I have a strong feeling though, and proven right by the replies in this thread that this is not an argument of "shutting me down"

Vaccination propaganda 24/7/365

Every single fucking MSN newspaper, Television channels and practically everywhere.

Two days ago after the 8pm primetime news there was a comment from a bitch reporter, she said if all fails even forced vaccinations.... Let that sink in!

Too bad I dont have a twitter account. I would have sent her the right answer.

Come and put it into me if you dare you stupid bitch! FUCK YOU!