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Germany COVID cases in ICU, 85% unvaccinated.

 
evangeline claire

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11/14/2021 08:12 AM
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Re: Germany COVID cases in ICU, 85% unvaccinated.
Please help to enlighten me.. ok maybe fake news.

But my brother in Germany has a good friend who works in Charity hospital, according to him one of the best hospitals in Germany, and this friend confirms it that "nearly everybody in ICU is unvaccinated", so i can't imagine a scenario how to explain this.

Germany is not USA, Australia or even Indonesia / china. No vax passports and requirements, according to him. Germans analytic minds are also not easily fooled by fake news.
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Right, like they weren't fooled by Hitler?
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Nagabonar666  (OP)

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11/14/2021 08:14 AM

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It's kind of grey propaganda in Germany. They let out part of the information (distribution vaxxed/unvaxxed symptomatic covid positive cases) to support their narrative.

In the end all I can say about my environment: most of the vaxxed are all sick with the common cold and stuff like that, especially at my work place. Only around 10% of our employees are unvacced and as far as I can tell, they are just doing fine.
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Exactly. i manage 130 employees plus they have family.. no real heavy cases of Covid, just 2 or 3 quarantine over these past 20 months.. i only know of 1 person (my uncle) who went to ICU and nearly died due to Covid...
Nagabonar666  (OP)

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11/14/2021 08:18 AM

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Re: Germany COVID cases in ICU, 85% unvaccinated.
Please help to enlighten me.. ok maybe fake news.

But my brother in Germany has a good friend who works in Charity hospital, according to him one of the best hospitals in Germany, and this friend confirms it that "nearly everybody in ICU is unvaccinated", so i can't imagine a scenario how to explain this.

Germany is not USA, Australia or even Indonesia / china. No vax passports and requirements, according to him. Germans analytic minds are also not easily fooled by fake news.
 Quoting: Nagabonar666


Right, like they weren't fooled by Hitler?
 Quoting: evangeline claire


Aw come on.. no one gives a shit about Hitler nowadays... Brexit destroyed Europe

panthers

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11/14/2021 08:19 AM

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Re: Germany COVID cases in ICU, 85% unvaccinated.
Build more icu's.

Its been almost 2 years.

When the next plauge hits lower than 98.5% , we are screwed.

The vax is not the proactive response. Its the reactive one.

Time to get proactive.. but the self elected NPC cannot grasp that visionary style of thinking..
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Colour Crusader

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11/14/2021 08:21 AM

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Good luck on jumping the hurdle, Nagabonar. Family is indeed so important in these times. Yet, if they do to wish to listen or consider an alternative narrative, it is best to put our energy somewhere else where it has a positive influence. If we are constantly under tension, trying to convince, without any result, then we forget how to enjoy. All the best for you and your brother.


I am not pro nor anti vax.. since I don't know the 100% truth. So i will try to keep myself unvaccinated until I really don't have a choice...

BUT I am "pro-freedom of choice"
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so you need to learn. here you go:

[link to wissenschafftplus.de (secure)]

or if you prefer listening to a presentation:

[link to odysee.com (secure)]
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Believe me i have gone into the deepest holes on both sides.. 10 years e-commerce experience, search is my bread and butter

But yes this one i have not read but will do so after I have cleared this hurdle with my bro.. thank u!
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16 Blocks

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11/14/2021 08:25 AM

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Re: Germany COVID cases in ICU, 85% unvaccinated.
Build more icu's.

Its been almost 2 years.

When the next plauge hits lower than 98.5% , we are screwed.

The vax is not the proactive response. Its the reactive one.

Time to get proactive.. but the self elected NPC cannot grasp that visionary style of thinking..
 Quoting: panthers




"Everyone knows that we should close at least every third, actually every second, clinic in Germany. Then we would have enough staff for other clinics, lower costs, better quality and not so much superfluous. Block counties and cities"


MOTHERFUCKERS!!!! Instead of stocking up, they wan't to close down everything.

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11/14/2021 08:26 AM
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Re: Germany COVID cases in ICU, 85% unvaccinated.
Please help to enlighten me.. ok maybe fake news.

But my brother in Germany has a good friend who works in Charity hospital, according to him one of the best hospitals in Germany, and this friend confirms it that "nearly everybody in ICU is unvaccinated", so i can't imagine a scenario how to explain this.

Germany is not USA, Australia or even Indonesia / china. No vax passports and requirements, according to him. Germans analytic minds are also not easily fooled by fake news.
 Quoting: Nagabonar666


You are marked as unvacinated even when u had one dose and then u are marked as vaccinated 2 weeks after the vaccination so the vax cause u are in the hospital but their guidelines are that they must say ure unvaxinated in some countries you are marked as unvaccinated even after 2 doses...its a play with statistics they dont mean shit
Nagabonar666  (OP)

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11/14/2021 08:29 AM

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Re: Germany COVID cases in ICU, 85% unvaccinated.
Good luck on jumping the hurdle, Nagabonar. Family is indeed so important in these times. Yet, if they do to wish to listen or consider an alternative narrative, it is best to put our energy somewhere else where it has a positive influence. If we are constantly under tension, trying to convince, without any result, then we forget how to enjoy. All the best for you and your brother.


I am not pro nor anti vax.. since I don't know the 100% truth. So i will try to keep myself unvaccinated until I really don't have a choice...

BUT I am "pro-freedom of choice"
 Quoting: Nagabonar666


so you need to learn. here you go:

[link to wissenschafftplus.de (secure)]

or if you prefer listening to a presentation:

[link to odysee.com (secure)]
 Quoting: my2ndcoming


Believe me i have gone into the deepest holes on both sides.. 10 years e-commerce experience, search is my bread and butter

But yes this one i have not read but will do so after I have cleared this hurdle with my bro.. thank u!
 Quoting: Nagabonar666

 Quoting: Colour Crusader


Indeed this situation is just terrible eating away at the core values and last backup we always took for granted. And it just hit like a bomb with this weird genetic inheritable sickness we never heard of in family, to our mother...

Wishing you all the best also.

Positive thinking with blessings from above and a glass of nice Rum.. sending you some good thoughts!
Weisshaupt

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11/14/2021 10:28 AM
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Re: Germany COVID cases in ICU, 85% unvaccinated.
Please help to enlighten me.. ok maybe fake news.

But my brother in Germany has a good friend who works in Charity hospital, according to him one of the best hospitals in Germany, and this friend confirms it that "nearly everybody in ICU is unvaccinated", so i can't imagine a scenario how to explain this.

Germany is not USA, Australia or even Indonesia / china. No vax passports and requirements, according to him. Germans analytic minds are also not easily fooled by fake news.
 Quoting: Nagabonar666


The first question you should be asking is "what percentage of the population in the immediate area of that ICU is vaccinated?" If 85% of the population there is un-vaxed then you would expect 85% of the patients to be unvaxed. You can't go by "national" rates - health care is provided locally and it is not uniform.

It is well known now ( even Fauci has had to admit it) that the vaccine confers only a partially effective protection against infection, against hospitalization and against death, and that protection wanes.. so the next question to ask is - how long ago were most people in this area vaccinated. If it was 1-3 months, then the vaccinated may be temporarily better protected than the unvaxxed.

Third, your brother's friend may be concerned that he will loose his job or be otherwise punished if he speaks the truth .

Fourth, if this is one of the "best hospitals" their ICU may be a point where critical ill patients from elsewhere are transferred.. so depending on how those transfer decisions are made, the unvaxxed patients may be selected for ( and that may be because they are more likely to be sicker)
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11/14/2021 10:35 AM
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bump
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Why is this so hard to understand. The vax protects you and no one else. If you contract after vax, is not 100%, you will have a less severe case. You can still get it,pass it and not even know it. The unvaxed, absent age and underlying medical problems, covid is not a big deal.
bidenwontheelection

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11/14/2021 12:22 PM
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Re: Germany COVID cases in ICU, 85% unvaccinated.
Please help to enlighten me.. ok maybe fake news.

But my brother in Germany has a good friend who works in Charity hospital, according to him one of the best hospitals in Germany, and this friend confirms it that "nearly everybody in ICU is unvaccinated", so i can't imagine a scenario how to explain this.

Germany is not USA, Australia or even Indonesia / china. No vax passports and requirements, according to him. Germans analytic minds are also not easily fooled by fake news.
 Quoting: Nagabonar666


Fake news.





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