Is prepping pointless?

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Do not let anyone know what you have, outside immediate family.

Do not let your kids know what you have, as they made inadvertently tell their friends.

If/when TSHTF, do not be walking around looking well fed. Ration your preps. Try to blend in with the misery.

Not all matters are earth ending. Our preps made the entire COVID matter far easier on our family. I was not among those panicking at the last minute trying to get basics.

Why would this mob target you, as opposed to any other house?

Answer yourself why, then take corrective action of what might draw them to you.

Install decorative wood shutters on the outside, and sandbags on the inside. Or reface the exterior with brick. Or order an underground bunker.

You should read this book about surviving just the scenarios you are describing, 20 years ago in Argentina. Very realistic and informative.
[link to www.amazon.com (secure)]

Fernando "Ferfal" Aguirre
The Modern Survival Manual: Surviving the Economic Collapse

yes, several times I have resorted to my last resort, which is the dehydrates ... which are really quite good ... once for a disaster and twice relocating (between jobs)

but for this winter I went all out and stored twice as much gas (for the generator) because my well pump is electric, and even all my gas appliances have elect thermostats - If you are going to store gas get the NON ethanol brand, 'cause even with a stabilizer, the gas goes bad in 3/6 months - real gas will last up to two years with stabil and even if you don't use it for your generator, $4 gas will be cheap by next Spring for your truck - need enough to get to the wilderness - but even with a gen, you'll have to be conservative, they burn up about a gal per hour

got some 50 gal water barrels (in case they steal my generator) you'd be amazed at how fast my 625 gal cistern gets empty --- got some extra hens ... if they do break in, they can have what's in my freezer and pantry - I have the "survival food" stored separately

I really don't see why you would need a thousand rounds of Amo - but I have plenty of 22longs, but not so many shotgun shell or 9mm cause they are WAY expensive

my property is fenced and gated but it would only slow them down - long enough for me to get in my hiddy hole or my neighbors to rescue me.

Last Edited by Shadow Dance on 11/14/2021 12:55 PM

Same here...

My well pump went out and I called a well service. I always stock about 3 months of drinkable water. So there was no rush to get the pump fixed. Found out it was just a wire broken, halfway down the well, and a quick repair.

Our electric has gone out for days in the winter time. Since we have Natural Gas for cooking, we used the stove to heat the main part of the house. DC fans worked great for pushing the warmth around. House stayed toasty at 72 degrees F...

I had a woodstove. Gave it to a relative who was just heating with their fireplace...

It's good to be prepared and to have peace of mind...

As of storing gas. You may want to look into a product called, "Pri-G". They claim it will stabilize gas for 10 years and also rejuvenate old gas. Two teaspoons in a 5 gallon can is all you need. They are sold in quart containers that treat 512 gallons each...



Last Edited by DuckNCover on 11/14/2021 01:06 PM

If you remember the LA riot, the black mobs started running when the rooftop Koreans started firing. They want to take your stuff to LIVE, not to die. When faced with resistance they'll scatter like roaches and look for easier targets.

This 100%. Kids report EVERYTHING to their friends on their devices in real time.

Family members can be a headache too, when you have a bunch of siblings and you're the only one prepping.

Good old saws, axes and sharp knives and a sturdy table?

You see an angry mob .. I see a free food-source coming fresh on its hooves for the guard-dogs.

A few times we benefitted from it. Power outages that lasted for 3-4 days allowed us to use oil lamps, propane camp stove and some food preps. It was fun, actually

Yep.

If we gotta go, fuck it.

:chillin:

I tried some of the 25 year freeze dried and was shocked how good it tasted. But otherwise agreed. It's more important to have hunting equipment.

I live in a blue collar area with vets tradespoeple mechanics etc.Most of us are armed and some with weapons to spare.I think we will put up good fight if need be.You have 0 chance unless you fight back.You are NOT going to be welcome in the"wilderness".If you have family and friends out there you might get thru.I am not in a flood zone or earthquake zone but too close to nuke targets.Where i started out in this life,i should have given up a long time ago.Might as well go out with a bang.Thy Will Be Done

Last Edited by Shetland Pony Dog on 11/14/2021 02:11 PM

Come to the conclusion now.. I can die standing up...or live on my knees"

I believe in the indomatbility of the human soul...right will prevail..been proved throughout history..

So many have seen this time ..and prepared, regardless of religious affiliation..and now we are at the crossroad.

"You either stand for something....or count for nothing".

See when you look at the prepper mentality..they want to survive to create a better world...

Yes it has!
1972 Sylmar earthquake we live in the epicenter right between two hospitals the were destroyed and most of the 60+ people died.



Not preps for me, they are necessary items!

We had preps everything we needed and more!

My Dad went to the VA hospital at sun up to help dig people out of the rubble. We got the information from a CB and AM radio of the collapse and that help was needed! we had one in the house and one in his work truck he was a contractor so we had a truck full of tools.

He returned a short time latter to get a generator fuel extension cords tools to cut concrete and rebar prybars axes shovels ect. He also took several jugs of water!

He set mom up with a burner and had her cook a huge pot of beans and rice, She and Grandma fed everyone that day.

Because he had some preps he could help! And he did!

First of all, get the most current info:
60% of Americans are now considered as "preppers".
Which changes the original supposition you have, by a lot.

Secondly the food stores ( including Warehouses will last about a Week) and it will be 3 day to a week, before the food stores really start being raided.
Convenience marts, Big Box electronics and Liquor stories will be first.
Based upon prior rioting habits.
Good info is useful.

Next, is that most Preppers plan on Bugging out,(within the first 3 days). so good luck on the Mobs, finding them. They will go Door to door, after they looted all the food stores, and so they will find little or nothing left in the houses.

The only point of prepping that is pointless; is if you are planning on bugging in, in a major city or suburban area. Or if you have so many "preps", that you can not take them with you or that you have no Plan B and C, incase your Plan A fails.

That is fine for ordinary situations.
However, what I am talking about is hundred's or more that will be going house to house when they realize that there is no law and no food to be had anywhere. To my original point...unless you live way out of a populated area hidden from the world, they will come to your home.

This scenario would only take days after a grid down situation, for example. Then even your friends and neighbors may turn into savages if they are hungry or scared enough.

Ok, in thus scenario is one guy against a mob. How about forming your own group of like minded preppers and protecting your neighborhood and resources from the "mob"...

You cannot succeed on your own, so get busy saying hello to your neighbors.

If everyone prepped then there would be not need to prep... think about it!

If you are inside a city and worried about a mob of hundreds, then there is no easy answer. You most likely are screwed. If you want to have more of a chance, you will have to make a hard decision, most likely now, to get out of the city.

The prepper has a will to live and above all to be free..

I live in Scotland..Have the "Declaration of Arbroath" framed.

“We fight not for glory nor for wealth nor honours; but only and alone we fight for freedom, which no good man surrenders but with his life.”


― Bernard De Linton, The Declaration Of Arbroath: A Letter From The Nobility, Barons And Commons Scotland, In The Year 1320

The tide will turn..just as the pendelum swings one way to the other.

People are getting fed up with the shit that is going on now..

If prepping is learning skills to sustain yourself, being self sufficient and building intelligent communities, I fail to see the downside.

Nope.......I been "prepped" since the 80's and it continues to this day.......as far as pointless, I'll have to disagree.......I dug into my preps many times since the 80's.....whether its a natural disaster or simple financial difficulties, my preps helped......Preparedness goes beyond beans and bullets.......it also mean preparing for economic downturns and other mundane bumps in the road......

Few think of health/fitness as a prep, but its one of the most important items ......same goes for knowledge......besides buying items, how much did you spend for preparedness education?.......simple course such as CPR and learning to can foods?....climbing and rope work?......foraging?.....wilderness first aid?.....


Many facets to survivalism besides huddling in your house waiting for the zombie mobs to overrun your position......lol.....

Prepping is good, but you will need the shield of Jesus Christ or it will be all for nought

Psalm 33:18-22

King James Version

18 Behold, the eye of the Lord is upon them that fear him, upon them that hope in his mercy;

19 To deliver their soul from death, and to keep them alive in famine.

20 Our soul waiteth for the Lord: he is our help and our shield.

21 For our heart shall rejoice in him, because we have trusted in his holy name.

22 Let thy mercy, O Lord, be upon us, according as we hope in thee.

Psalms 11:1

“(To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David.) In the LORD put I my trust: how say ye to my soul, Flee as a bird to your mountain?”

Psalm 37:18-19

King James Version

18 The Lord knoweth the days of the upright: and their inheritance shall be for ever.

19 They shall not be ashamed in the evil time: and in the days of famine they shall be satisfied.

Its never pointless but think of "smart" prepping.
Have a plan A and a plan B (at least)
Make it hard for the invaders to find all your stock at once, have some food out in plain sight in your house, then hide some in places not easily found eg bury them outside or have a hidden cabinet.
Have an escape plan for when you need to leave and come back later to take them. Such plans.

Bosnian guy who survived three years there of chaos said single people were targeted by gangs and easily snuffed. Group with as many like minded peeps as possible.

Coffee, matches, cigarettes, gas, iighters were currency

Not necessarily. Fernando Aguire says it's better to live in an area with neighbors close by. People who lived too isolated in rural areas were easily killed because no one heard them scream, or if they did, were too far to help.

Stocked up for Y2K...
Used up most of the stuff...
Have a little bit of whatever for awhile again...

Now godliness with contentment is great gain.
For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out.
And having food and clothing, with these we shall be content.

1Timothy 6:6-8


"Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal;

"but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal.

"For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

"The lamp of the body is the eye. If therefore your eye is good, your whole body will be full of light.

"But if your eye is bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in you is darkness, how great is that darkness!

"No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.

"Therefore I say to you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink; nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food and the body more than clothing?

"Look at the birds of the air, for they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they?

"Which of you by worrying can add one cubit to his stature?

"So why do you worry about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin;

"and yet I say to you that even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.

"Now if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is, and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will He not much more clothe you, O you of little faith?

"Therefore do not worry, saying, 'What shall we eat?' or 'What shall we drink?' or 'What shall we wear?'

"For after all these things the Gentiles seek. For your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things.

"But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you.

"Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about its own things. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble.

Matthew 6:19-34