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Feathery
User ID: 78686355 11/14/2021 06:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Having an actual underground bomb shelter that is hidden and can be closed off would raise your chances many times, however, most people wouldn't last more than a month. It all depends on the crisis. In many cases we won't be able to do anything. Tomfoolery |
panther0621
User ID: 80727864 United States 11/14/2021 06:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Be prepared to move light and fast. something that can cross flooding roads etc is good as a backup and fun vehicle. a snorkeled Toyota CJ carbonated from the early seventies would be nice. have the info to collect food in the wild. find orchards, etc. have dehydrated food. you need to be light. you need fuel. you need ammo. you need a weapon for each party member. fast and light. get yourself ready to be on foot. build the endurence. find the hiking routes near you and memorize it. learn where you can disappear to for a few days to see. few will have the land or money or manpower to hold out. staying still makes you a target. remember fires can give away a position day or night. if you smoke, learn to dip or get off. have meds or ween off with docs advice if you can. do not have an addiction to anything that would make your brain not in the moment but thinking about the next drink, hit, needle etc. being physically fit is a huge prep. have at least a longwave radio. if you transmit do it short and move quick. |
panther0621
User ID: 80727864 United States 11/14/2021 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How do you prepare to face the angry and starving mob that will surely come for what you have? Over 90% of the public is not prepared for any catastrophe beyond a day or two. The stores will be cleared out in a few hours...then desperate people will gravitate into a mob going door to door taking whatever they want. Quoting: nacho daddy I know in the movies the good guy shoots them all down, but in reality our houses are not suited for defense and will easily be overrun. To the question, is it pointless to prep? OPS SEC Do not let anyone know what you have, outside immediate family. Do not let your kids know what you have, as they made inadvertently tell their friends. If/when TSHTF, do not be walking around looking well fed. Ration your preps. Try to blend in with the misery. Not all matters are earth ending. Our preps made the entire COVID matter far easier on our family. I was not among those panicking at the last minute trying to get basics. exactly and are you a fellow vet? |
panther0621
User ID: 80727864 United States 11/14/2021 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you need to defend your home, build up a bullet proof barrier. Could be a refrigerator, dresser full of sand, brick wall, washer full of sand, etc... Quoting: Nonentity Also have an escape route. I think the biggest prep one can do is train with your weapons and be physically fit. I am thinking of a catastrophic event in this scenario, such as a grid down situation for at least a few weeks...which I fully expect this Winter. The problem most homes face is the number of windows. Unless you have enough armed people to cover them, there will be points of entry and weak spots. Plus, if you are facing an angry mob of a hundred surrounding your home...what can you do? Install decorative wood shutters on the outside, and sandbags on the inside. Or reface the exterior with brick. Or order an underground bunker. your house is very easy to breach even with those. you need air... your home will be set on fire. your home is not a military bunker. |
panther0621
User ID: 80727864 United States 11/14/2021 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Prep for what? Think of that for a minute? Since you don't know if..what...when..where..whatever will happen...what exactly do you prep? just food & water & bullets? The flood washed away all that. Political? Earthquakes? I realize there is some constant underlying assumptions as to a police Steve etc...however they can't even get enough to get the vax. So whatever scares you.. Prep for that and hope its not one of the other 10 things. They all require different solutions. I live in a blue collar area with vets tradespoeple mechanics etc.Most of us are armed and some with weapons to spare.I think we will put up good fight if need be.You have 0 chance unless you fight back.You are NOT going to be welcome in the"wilderness".If you have family and friends out there you might get thru.I am not in a flood zone or earthquake zone but too close to nuke targets.Where i started out in this life,i should have given up a long time ago.Might as well go out with a bang.Thy Will Be Done I am a marine vet, you will be over run, you may have an enemy with open skies to drone you. nowhere is safe. if you know a cave system you have a chance. Moabs also dont give a fuck |
panther0621
User ID: 80727864 United States 11/14/2021 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bosnian guy who survived three years there of chaos said single people were targeted by gangs and easily snuffed. Group with as many like minded peeps as possible. Quoting: TheSecretSharer Coffee, matches, cigarettes, gas, iighters were currency and remember never fucking be lined up. fight and die, do not go out on your knees. it is not a manly or honorable thing to do. they will not change there minds. |
panther0621
User ID: 80727864 United States 11/14/2021 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How do you prepare to face the angry and starving mob that will surely come for what you have? Over 90% of the public is not prepared for any catastrophe beyond a day or two. The stores will be cleared out in a few hours...then desperate people will gravitate into a mob going door to door taking whatever they want. Quoting: nacho daddy I know in the movies the good guy shoots them all down, but in reality our houses are not suited for defense and will easily be overrun. To the question, is it pointless to prep? A lot less hungry mouths after the vaccinated die in the next few years. you do not know that. we are losing AMERICANS both vaxxed and not. Do not make it about that. we cannot see the future and we have no clue, hence the question of even prepping. what is the doom... it could be many things some at the same time. |
panther0621
User ID: 80727864 United States 11/14/2021 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So whatever scares you.. Prep for that and hope its not one of the other 10 things. They all require different solutions. Quoting: Centex7 There is a bunch of overlap. And no you can't prep for everything.. that doesn't make it useless. Starting with a single firearm and 1000 rounds, a water purification system, and a 5 gallon bucket with 3 days of food covers a lot of short term scenarios. Then up it to a month of food, a small generator with two 5 gallon gas cans, fire starters, shovel, tent, crank powered radio and a knife. (or whatever) You simply progress to longer periods and cover as many of the scenarios as you can for as long as you can. If you have the money for fully equipped 5000 sq foot mini thorium reactor powered EMP/nuke proof bunkers with 20 years of food on different continents and the Captain Nemo submarine to travel to them- through underground water tunnels, go for that too. You can't do that? Maybe instead do what you can. Over time. As you can afford it. You don't need to outrun the bear- you have to outrun the people around you. Every little prep you make increases your chances of survival.. even if in the end they just make surviving the event a little easier than it would have been The preps were lost in the flood? Them is the breaks. At least you took responsibility for your own life and tried which is more than 90% of the people out there will do . |
FeralOne
User ID: 10349602 United States 11/14/2021 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you need to defend your home, build up a bullet proof barrier. Could be a refrigerator, dresser full of sand, brick wall, washer full of sand, etc... Quoting: Nonentity Also have an escape route. I think the biggest prep one can do is train with your weapons and be physically fit. I am thinking of a catastrophic event in this scenario, such as a grid down situation for at least a few weeks...which I fully expect this Winter. The problem most homes face is the number of windows. Unless you have enough armed people to cover them, there will be points of entry and weak spots. Plus, if you are facing an angry mob of a hundred surrounding your home...what can you do? There are security films you can put on windows that make them difficult to break. Amazon lists several of them. In latin america, most homes have bars on their windows for security, and fences all around, some with razor wire on top. Bars are great, and heavy mesh is valuable inside too. You need to secure your place for when you're home and when you're away too. Start with bank grade security and work up from there. I always thought it was stupid to require so many large windows in a house. Sure, it looks nice to women, but it's a horror for security. What's the point anyway - you can get such efficient LED lights today that the power usage is inconsequential. |
Robotanimal
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Woogy
User ID: 81027077 United States 11/14/2021 08:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP: not as long as if makes me feel good and I don't have to run to the grocery store every week. And there's the savings I accrue by taking advantage of sales. One week Hamburger is $1.99/lb and the next it's $3.49/lb. - that kind of thing.` Quoting: GSB/LTD As soon as we heard of food shortages and prices shooting up, I went out and bought a freezer. Not ideal for prepping in case power goes out but, better than nothing. I have a good discount meat market within an hour drive so we are stocked up pretty well. If you think you need a freezer and meat to survive, you are a moron. It's the most american thing ever. I love my propane meat locker. It is one of my favorite things for sure. You know..you never know..you know? |
HM238
User ID: 34855329 United States 11/14/2021 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most prepping is. I base mine on real-world history and events. Gold and more than 9 months of food per person is effectively useless. A few items are worth having a year of, but if you are running from stocks at 9+ months, you probably aren’t going to make it. Silver and items like lighters and medicine are more likely to be used and traded, but even then, you will have a bullseye on you. Too much of prepping is theoretical and based on unrealistic scenarios. Look at real-world events and how they played out, take a realistic inventory of your skills and knowledge and base your approach on them. Stock up on the things outside of your wheelhouse, and hone the skills you have. After that, start to learn and bolster your weak points. Have books and resources to cover the things you are weak in. HM238 |
AfterAll
User ID: 80257640 United States 11/14/2021 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been prepping for a long time, but I started in using my preps. I can't afford the food prices now. So I'm buying what I can with my budget, but when that money runs out, I turn to food storage. My food budget shockingly is shot for the month as of today. There's half a month to go and Thanksgiving in the mix. So now I will get food out of the freezer and my home canned stuff. I heard there is a free turkey giveaway in town next weekend. I'm going to try to get one, but if not, I have a couple frozen turkey legs in the freezer. Better than nothing. I have 3 freezers with food. I have lots of home canned veggies and meat, some fish and some game. My canned chicken is amazing. The only thing I really miss at the end of the month is fresh greens. But I have some mung bean seeds and I think I'll try to sprout some fresh greens. You should try out Pooka's thread on Practical Prepping. I learned a lot from it. |
Space Junk
User ID: 79124275 United States 11/14/2021 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How do you prepare to face the angry and starving mob that will surely come for what you have? Over 90% of the public is not prepared for any catastrophe beyond a day or two. The stores will be cleared out in a few hours...then desperate people will gravitate into a mob going door to door taking whatever they want. Quoting: nacho daddy I know in the movies the good guy shoots them all down, but in reality our houses are not suited for defense and will easily be overrun. To the question, is it pointless to prep? This is why I don't tell anybody I prep. This is why I live an outwardly low-key, humble lifestyle that fosters the impression I don't have anything worth taking. Of all the houses on my city street, mine is the least-promising target, and that is intentional. It's also why I'm moving to the country, to a place that's inconvenient for marauding gangs--and among people who are likely to be low-key preppers themselves. Country people expect things to go to shit, and not have help swooping in right away, and are therefore much better prepared for that, both materially and mentally. They're also better prepared to pull together and help each other than city people (who usually don't even know their neighbors) are. The cities and inner suburbs will be a mess, but if there's such a dire catastrophe that gangs are looting people's houses for food, that means there is unlikely to be gasoline available, either, which means they won't be able to travel far. They'd have to know there was something worth taking, and that they would meet sufficiently little resistance, for raiding to be worth the risk. So I'm preparing to ride out the rest of this decade out in the sticks, and not terribly worried about it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78012050 11/14/2021 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes because it say's in Revelation - Those that are in caves (Today- prep shelters) will beg for it to collapse and fall on them and kilt them to keep from seeing the terrible appearance of Son of man.. It is best to stand out in the open on top ground and take your sin death like a man! |
Broken Wing
User ID: 80836973 United States 11/14/2021 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Prepping means preparing for any scenario you can see being possible. Including "normal" life. Quoting: Nonentity In this scenario, make a plan to live through that and get the stuff you would need. I suggest packing light and head for the wilds as far as possible from civilization. Just curious, how many people do you think are prepared for the wilds? LOL! People are so fat and lazy that the best they can do is walk around the block. We're headed into winter and unless someone lives in the south, it would be a terrible idea for unprepared people to head out into the woods. It would probably mean certain death. And although many romanticize heading into the wild, where would that be? Most of the land is owned by someone. If someone wanders into a patriot's private property unannounced and uninvited,that could also mean trouble as well. People need to think about these things before they just head out. Broken Wing |
nacho daddy
(OP) User ID: 79304616 United States 11/14/2021 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you need to defend your home, build up a bullet proof barrier. Could be a refrigerator, dresser full of sand, brick wall, washer full of sand, etc... Quoting: Nonentity Also have an escape route. I think the biggest prep one can do is train with your weapons and be physically fit. I am thinking of a catastrophic event in this scenario, such as a grid down situation for at least a few weeks...which I fully expect this Winter. The problem most homes face is the number of windows. Unless you have enough armed people to cover them, there will be points of entry and weak spots. Plus, if you are facing an angry mob of a hundred surrounding your home...what can you do? Install decorative wood shutters on the outside, and sandbags on the inside. Or reface the exterior with brick. Or order an underground bunker. your house is very easy to breach even with those. you need air... your home will be set on fire. your home is not a military bunker. And this sums it up nicely. They will come to your house in numbers if they think you have anything they can use or eat. The weak will join the mob for protection. In a catastrophic situation... Veteran, prepper, gun nut...it doesn't matter. If a hundred crazed lunatics are outside your door banging to get in...eventually they will. It is all based on your location. If you are in a city...forget about it. Even suburbs will be bad. The day the soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you stopped leading them. They have either lost confidence that you can help them or concluded that you do not care. Either case is a failure of leadership. |
bro tim
User ID: 70663894 United States 11/14/2021 10:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How do you prepare to face the angry and starving mob that will surely come for what you have? Over 90% of the public is not prepared for any catastrophe beyond a day or two. The stores will be cleared out in a few hours...then desperate people will gravitate into a mob going door to door taking whatever they want. Quoting: nacho daddy I know in the movies the good guy shoots them all down, but in reality our houses are not suited for defense and will easily be overrun. To the question, is it pointless to prep? You and your neighbors have to get together and survive as a community |
DuckNCover
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Gnome6969
User ID: 80259540 United States 11/15/2021 11:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have teammates, I am off the road and cannot be seen from the road, I have weapons and the will to use them, We also have a fall back position in the next town that is even more in the sticks, Water is plentiful and rednecks do not put up with bullshit. I am in a good position, Nothing is a guarantee in life but I am better off than most, I am friendly with a few small farmers, so I will work for food if need be, also protect for food. |
RHH
User ID: 79009989 United States 11/15/2021 11:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, you could go to the store or restaurant for every meal, never keep anything on hand and always be dependent upon to whims of availability. Would that be smart? Just think, you could buy your aspirin at 2 for $1.79 in a small paper packet at a convenience store, instead of buying a bottle of 500 for $4.99! Think how great your consumerism would be for the economy! And all the gas you would burn! signature undergoing renovation thank you for your patience |
Blackshuck
User ID: 81097356 United Kingdom 11/15/2021 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How do you prepare to face the angry and starving mob that will surely come for what you have? Over 90% of the public is not prepared for any catastrophe beyond a day or two. The stores will be cleared out in a few hours...then desperate people will gravitate into a mob going door to door taking whatever they want. Quoting: nacho daddy I know in the movies the good guy shoots them all down, but in reality our houses are not suited for defense and will easily be overrun. To the question, is it pointless to prep? OPS SEC Do not let anyone know what you have, outside immediate family. Do not let your kids know what you have, as they made inadvertently tell their friends. If/when TSHTF, do not be walking around looking well fed. Ration your preps. Try to blend in with the misery. Not all matters are earth ending. Our preps made the entire COVID matter far easier on our family. I was not among those panicking at the last minute trying to get basics. exactly and are you a fellow vet? Lot of ex military have seen the writing on the wall..and kept their mouths shut..throughout all this crap..yet secretly not letting others know and preparing for what is to come..the thing is when you have served you develop a mentality...civvies haven't a clue what is going on ..yet you know and understand the machinations of control..because .you were once part of it.. |