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Russian State Media: Ukraine tells EU leaders: Prepare for War. P. 2864 EU Official: Russia shifts war's focus to NATO and the West

 
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I have pretty much stopped monitoring military aircraft on the thread -- except for US doomsday aircraft (E-6B and E-4B types) and Russian military aircraft.



My primary interest in those aircraft is as a sort of barometer for military tensions between the two superpowers.



If anybody wonders why I post them, that is why.



The Putin-puffers bitch about it but of course they bitch about everything.


They seem awfuly concerned about what I post on a thread they say they detest.


(Apparently, they do read it quite frequently.)
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Reading all the rubbish these Putin-puffers preach is very tiresome!

Thank you for all the updates, it's amazing work.
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What are they going to do when their hero-messiah dies, I wonder.



He certainly doesn't look like the picture of health, though he is only 70.

Our asshole politicians in the west live to even more disgusting old age, in fairness.
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With all of his body doubles, yes...Putin really could be dead already and we in the west would not know it.
Dietrich Bonhoeffer: “Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.”

"Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing."
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I have pretty much stopped monitoring military aircraft on the thread -- except for US doomsday aircraft (E-6B and E-4B types) and Russian military aircraft.



My primary interest in those aircraft is as a sort of barometer for military tensions between the two superpowers.



If anybody wonders why I post them, that is why.



The Putin-puffers bitch about it but of course they bitch about everything.


They seem awfuly concerned about what I post on a thread they say they detest.


(Apparently, they do read it quite frequently.)
 Quoting: Tiger Blood


Reading all the rubbish these Putin-puffers preach is very tiresome!

Thank you for all the updates, it's amazing work.
 Quoting: Hype2022


I second that, I appreciate that you post the planes in the air and all of the work you put in to provide meaningful updates.

It's my go to for unbiased assessments of an ever changing situation that has world wide implications.

hf
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Dietrich Bonhoeffer: “Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.”

"Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing."
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Dietrich Bonhoeffer: “Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.”

"Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing."
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Dietrich Bonhoeffer: “Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.”

"Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing."
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OT, but...



RIP, David Crosby.



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Bombers can still turn into butterflies, but I fear there is only one way that will ever happen on this planet.
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"Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing."
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Russian State TV Guest Admits War Was a 'Disastrous Mistake'

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A guest on Russian state television has expressed an opinion not often heard on the airwaves in his country as he criticized Moscow's invasion of Ukraine as leading Russia to a "dead end."

Wednesday's episode of current affairs show Mesto Vstrechi (Meeting Place) on the NTV channel discussed the latest situation in Ukraine, a clip of which was tweeted by Ukrainian internal affairs adviser Anton Gerashchenko.

The studio screen title "winter of anxiety" outlined the theme of the show in which the guests discussed whether Kyiv is preparing for an offensive, whether military service should be mandatory for Russian officials and the fate of Duma deputies on the front line.

Boris Nadezhdin, an opposition politician and Moscow municipal deputy who has opposed the invasion of Ukraine, then gave his take.

"Certainly the personal courage and heroism shown by Russian MPs, soldier officers absolutely does not justify the fact that the special military operation was a disastrous mistake and that it is a senseless situation leading the country to a dead end," said Nadezhdin according to a transcript accompanying the clip.

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Is this really where Putin expected to be 330 days later -- fighting a brutal war of attrition against Ukraine for (perhaps) thin strips of land in Donbas?


Really?


I don't believe that for a second.


And...at what cost in terms of blood, treasure and the prosperity (and maybe stability) of his country?


No, I do not believe that.


This is not winning by any stretch of the imagination.

It is, if I am being very generous, just slightly better than a draw: this test of the 22nd most powerful military in 2022 against THE SECOND.
Dietrich Bonhoeffer: “Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.”

"Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing."
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"Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing."
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With all of his body doubles, yes...Putin really could be dead already and we in the west would not know it.
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No Tanks...

No Ukraine East of the Dnipro

iamwith
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No Tanks...

No Ukraine East of the Dnipro

iamwith
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They are getting some tanks.

Only question is what types and how many?


But basically, if I were Russia I would be worried.

Look what Ukrainians did with just the tanks they had...and the tanks they stole!
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Vladimir Putin accused of 'deceiving' his own soldiers: 'The command doesn't care about us'
Story by Luan Trimi • 9h ago

A video has surfaced where a group of Russian soldiers who have retreated from their positions in Ukraine have accused Vladimir Putin's regime of lying to them.

On Wednesday a video circulated online which shows a group of Russian soldiers who have been accused of deserting their positions by their commander, Newsweek reports.

The soldiers, who are all part of the recently mobilized volunteers, address Putin directly in the video and say that in fact, they received direct orders to retreat from their position given that they were being shelled by heavy artillery fire.

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Igor made NewsWeek saying...

Russia will sink by the end of the year.

On break..don't have time to find a link.
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Prigozhin is a brutal man, but not stupid.

Even he has respect for the fighting abilities of the Ukrainians.


Wagner Boss Says Troops Have 'a Lot to Learn' From Ukrainian Fighters
Story by Zoe Strozewski • 6h ago

The head of the Russian mercenary Wagner Group said Thursday that his forces can take notes from Ukrainian troops amid the ongoing war.

Yevgeny Prigozhin's Wagner forces have been involved in the high-profile fights for the Ukrainian cities of Bakhmut and Soledar in the eastern Donetsk region.

Russia recently claimed to have captured Soledar, a small salt-mining town several miles from Bakhmut, and the U.K. Defence Ministry wrote in an intelligence update on Wednesday that Ukrainian forces had "likely withdrawn" from the town by the end of January 16.

But Russian and Wagner troops have yet to capture Bakhmut after months of fighting that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said last month had left the city "destroyed."

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Even Prigozhin is not as arrogant as Vlad's fan bois on GLP.



The chef is a monster, but he is not an idiot.
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"Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing."
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Dietrich Bonhoeffer: “Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.”

"Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing."
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Dietrich Bonhoeffer: “Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.”

"Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing."
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"Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing."
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Dietrich Bonhoeffer: “Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.”

"Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing."
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Dietrich Bonhoeffer: “Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.”

"Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing."
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