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How do Christians preach the Gospel when the overwhelming majority of today's people see the Bible as fiction?

 
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It's not like it was 50 years ago. You go out into today's world, you have a whole different audience of 'Unsaved.'

Do Christians even 'Witness' anymore? You tell 95% of people in today's world they're Lost and going to Hell unless they believe in a man who lived 2000 years ago and still hasn't returned yet and doesn't show His hand in any world events..they would only laugh..or cut you off mid-sentence with 'No thanks, buddy.'

Do Christians have their own mounting doubts? I used to encounter parking lot preachers, or folks who would hand you Gospel tracts. I haven't encountered one of these people in several decades. And you never hear of miraculous "Conversion" events happening to people these days. Where is the Holy Spirit?

2000 year no-show of Jesus and Christian influence on culture diminishes by the year.

I say if 'God' doesnt intervene, and allows 90% of the world population to be culled by Man, you can finally say the God of the Bible doesn't exist.

I want to believe in Jesus again like I did in my 20s. It just seems damn near impossible sometimes, and God seems so hidden away. I still pray and I still try anyway.
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Good questions.
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I know some Christians that do. I think they are good people even if I don't agree with their view.

I look at them as person and they are somebody who treats others with respect.
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Peace x7 your way. The Word either is, or is not fiction. That’s the beauty of the message.

YOU decide.

Tick, tick, tick. Joel 3:14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision:
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This very thing was prophesied to happen in the last days.

2 Peter 3:3-4 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, and saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

Strong delusion was also prophesied.

2 Thessalonians 2:7-12 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Jesus said it would be as the days of Noah.

Matthew 24:37-39 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
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Preaching is easy and awesome

Not every day is a diamond but with that said life is filled with more good days than bad ones

Rest assured that when the time come God will send all the influencers required, filled will all the silver billet taking points needed to defeat satans finest
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Re: How do Christians preach the Gospel when the overwhelming majority of today's people see the Bible as fiction?
It's not like it was 50 years ago. You go out into today's world, you have a whole different audience of 'Unsaved.'

Do Christians even 'Witness' anymore? You tell 95% of people in today's world they're Lost and going to Hell unless they believe in a man who lived 2000 years ago and still hasn't returned yet and doesn't show His hand in any world events..they would only laugh..or cut you off mid-sentence with 'No thanks, buddy.'

Do Christians have their own mounting doubts? I used to encounter parking lot preachers, or folks who would hand you Gospel tracts. I haven't encountered one of these people in several decades. And you never hear of miraculous "Conversion" events happening to people these days. Where is the Holy Spirit?

2000 year no-show of Jesus and Christian influence on culture diminishes by the year.

I say if 'God' doesnt intervene, and allows 90% of the world population to be culled by Man, you can finally say the God of the Bible doesn't exist.

I want to believe in Jesus again like I did in my 20s. It just seems damn near impossible sometimes, and God seems so hidden away. I still pray and I still try anyway.
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take heart, even there is nothing in this world that seems hopeful...we are in the falling away...


To the angel of the church in Philadelphia write:

7 These are the words of the One who is holy and true, who holds the key of David. What He opens no one can shut, and what He shuts no one can open.

8 I know your deeds. See, I have placed before you an open door, which no one can shut. For you have only a little strength, yet you have kept My word and have not denied My name. 9 Look at those who belong to the synag.gue of Satan, who claim to be the chosen but are liars instead. I will make them come and bow down at your feet, and they will know that I love you.

10 Because you have kept My command to persevere, I will also keep you from the hour of testing that is about to come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth. 11 I am coming soon. Hold fast to what you have, so that no one will take your crown. 12 The one who overcomes I will make a pillar in the temple of My God, and he will never again leave it. Upon him I will write the name of My God, and the name of the city of My God (the new Jerusalem that comes down out of heaven from My God), and My new name.

13 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.

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It is their choice if they don't have the power of discrimination. When the last person that wants to spend eternity in heaven makes his decision, I suppose God folds the whole game up and takes the winners. Losers are going to hell.
I pity the people who think that the Bible is too old fashioned to really be true. I'm sure it makes God sad too.
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Go Hesychast or Heychasm, in the Coptic or Orthodox Church.

If you attain the fruition of that, then see how you can save other people.

Until then, there’s not much that one can do.....
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This very thing was prophesied to happen in the last days.

2 Peter 3:3-4 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, and saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

Strong delusion was also prophesied.

2 Thessalonians 2:7-12 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Jesus said it would be as the days of Noah.

Matthew 24:37-39 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
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Quite good selections.
Embrace the cognitive dissonance.
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Re: How do Christians preach the Gospel when the overwhelming majority of today's people see the Bible as fiction?
The divine invitation is intended for the elite/humble/teachable few who respond to make global garden of Eden. For the overwhelming majority rejecting the invitation it serves as fair warning when the global nuclear industrial complex rotates it's extinction level event keys, God's invitation has expired, the purification has arrived.

Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father. 37For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be. 38For as they were in those days before the Flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, 39and they took no note until the Flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be. 40Then two men will be in the field; one will be taken along and the other abandoned. 41Two women will be grinding at the hand mill; one will be taken along and the other abandoned. 42Keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day your Lord is coming.
43“But know one thing: If the householder had known in what watch the thief was coming, he would have kept awake and not allowed his house to be broken into. 44On this account, you too prove yourselves ready, because the Son of man is coming at an hour that you do not think to be it. Mt24:36
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I want to believe in Jesus again like I did in my 20s. It just seems damn near impossible sometimes, and God seems so hidden away. I still pray and I still try anyway.
 Quoting: sjones7078


Focus on the message, try to live by it and keep your faith.

Recognize their are charlatans even on this very site that revel in doom and evil and predict the end of the world tomorrow. This happens daily on GLP these last 20 years.

Just ignore any who use fear as their bully pulpit. Ignore the atheists and satanists who will eventually outnumber all other religions.

Follow and live the message as best you understand it. Keep your faith as best you can. Enjoy your hours on this Earth and be productive.

Can't go wrong with that.
Embrace the cognitive dissonance.
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That's not the way to teach the Gospel. It never really was.

You live it and people se it is superior.

They hear you speaking the truth and they see you dominating demonic spirits.

They see you making the sacrifices of righteousness.

Doing what is right at any cost.
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The divine invitation is intended for the elite/humble/teachable few who respond to make global garden of Eden. For the overwhelming majority rejecting the invitation it serves as fair warning when the global nuclear industrial complex rotates it's extinction level event keys, God's invitation has expired, the purification has arrived.

Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father. 37For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be. 38For as they were in those days before the Flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, 39and they took no note until the Flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be. 40Then two men will be in the field; one will be taken along and the other abandoned. 41Two women will be grinding at the hand mill; one will be taken along and the other abandoned. 42Keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day your Lord is coming.
43“But know one thing: If the householder had known in what watch the thief was coming, he would have kept awake and not allowed his house to be broken into. 44On this account, you too prove yourselves ready, because the Son of man is coming at an hour that you do not think to be it. Mt24:36
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Jesus is God.
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I want to believe in Jesus again like I did in my 20s. It just seems damn near impossible sometimes, and God seems so hidden away. I still pray and I still try anyway.
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Jesus is the Spirit.. He's in you.

2 Corinthians 13:5
5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

Colossians 1:27
27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:

Because the God who said, Out of darkness light shall shine, is the One who shined in our hearts to illuminate the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. But we have this treasure in earthen vessels that the excellency of the power may be of God and not out of us.
2 Corinthians 4:6-7

But when it pleased God... to reveal His Son in me.
Galatians 1:15-16

I am crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but it is Christ who lives in me.
Galatians 2:20

My children, with whom I travail again in birth until Christ is formed in you.
Galatians 4:19

“That Christ may make His home in your hearts through faith.
Ephesians 3:17

Romans 8:10
And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
Jer 18:3
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90% of the world believes in god in some form.

However if they truly believed them the world wouldn’t be such a fucked up, angry place.

Why are so many people unhappy and stressed out if they really believed god was all around then and that they will see their loved ones again in heaven and such?

Wouldn’t they make sure to not anger their god?

It would seem most have doubts that they don’t admit or realize?
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1 Corinthians 1:18

For the word of the cross is folly


to those who are perishing,



but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.


YMWNV.


The "saved" are no better than the lost,


except


we believed and have attempted to obey.
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1 Corinthians 1:18
For the word of the cross is folly
to those who are perishing,
but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
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Do you know what the Power of God is? It's the Holy Spirit.
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I want to believe in Jesus again like I did in my 20s. It just seems damn near impossible sometimes, and God seems so hidden away. I still pray and I still try anyway.
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kitty Calm down and keep things simple, we are still out there bashing away.

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it's just a bunch of people who want to live a certain way by certain principles. too bad they are immersed in a culture of super heathens and can hardly employ any of them in reality.
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Peace x7 your way. The Word either is, or is not fiction. That’s the beauty of the message.

YOU decide.

Tick, tick, tick. Joel 3:14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision:
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Its not the word of God.. stop calling it that... the word of God is humans and such who know him. the book is full of errors .
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Re: How do Christians preach the Gospel when the overwhelming majority of today's people see the Bible as fiction?
Good question. The answer is that Christianity has nothing to do humanity or they "feel" about things. Noah preached that there would be a flood and built an ark over multiple decades. People laughed at him, mocked him and no one believed. They felt differently when the rain started.

Point being, most people warning humanity about God and His judgement were ignored and didn't convert alot of people. The Americanized Joel Osteen "your best life now because God is a vending machine" version of Christianity has nothing to do with the Bible.

If a person gets saved through Jesus Christ, he is to tell people about His faith and give the reason for it. Jesus said the world hates me first and they will hate you for being mine. Pretty clear.

Our job is to warn and to tell people the truth of the gospel. Results have nothing to do with it at all. And Jesus told us we would be mocked and scoffed at.

Never deny Jesus. He is the truth. And He is coming back. And right up until He does, just like those people laughing at Noah, the world will laugh at us, hate us and mock us.
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Peace x7 your way. The Word either is, or is not fiction. That’s the beauty of the message.

YOU decide.

Tick, tick, tick. Joel 3:14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision:
 Quoting: President Elect Elect


Its not the word of God.. stop calling it that... the word of God is humans and such who know him. the book is full of errors .
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I have read your posts. I will only say I pray you repent of your false gospel and get saved. You are following demons.
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Re: How do Christians preach the Gospel when the overwhelming majority of today's people see the Bible as fiction?
Good question. The answer is that Christianity has nothing to do humanity or they "feel" about things. Noah preached that there would be a flood and built an ark over multiple decades. People laughed at him, mocked him and no one believed. They felt differently when the rain started.

Point being, most people warning humanity about God and His judgement were ignored and didn't convert alot of people. The Americanized Joel Osteen "your best life now because God is a vending machine" version of Christianity has nothing to do with the Bible.

If a person gets saved through Jesus Christ, he is to tell people about His faith and give the reason for it. Jesus said the world hates me first and they will hate you for being mine. Pretty clear.

Our job is to warn and to tell people the truth of the gospel. Results have nothing to do with it at all. And Jesus told us we would be mocked and scoffed at.

Never deny Jesus. He is the truth. And He is coming back. And right up until He does, just like those people laughing at Noah, the world will laugh at us, hate us and mock us.
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Let me guess.. you're a trinitarian.
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Go Hesychast or Heychasm, in the Coptic or Orthodox Church.

If you attain the fruition of that, then see how you can save other people.

Until then, there’s not much that one can do.....
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Or Hesychia.
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All you can do is plant the seed.

Let God and His Son handle it from there.

Thread: Pray - For All Who Are Lost - and for Father God to Have Mercy on All

Thread: ONE Gospel - FROM God - THRU Jesus - Taught by ALL of the Apostles - NOT Just Paul - Bible Study

Thread: The Gospel - Basic Teachings of Jesus (amd Paul) for Salvation - KJV Bible Study

Thread: Testimonies of Miracles Angels etc...proof of God / Yahuah & Son Jesus / Yeshua
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All you can do is plant the seed.

Let God and His Son handle it from there.
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Ignore this fool. He is a Muslim and believes God sent Gabriel to Muhammad in order to kill all the Christians who believe Jesus is God.
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Peace x7 your way. The Word either is, or is not fiction. That’s the beauty of the message.

YOU decide.

Tick, tick, tick. Joel 3:14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision:
 Quoting: President Elect Elect


Its not the word of God.. stop calling it that... the word of God is humans and such who know him. the book is full of errors .
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It is the word of GOD and it is not full of errors. you only say that because you are wicked and evil and have given yourself over to lies.

humans are not the word and your urantia book is not the word.
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It's not like it was 50 years ago. You go out into today's world, you have a whole different audience of 'Unsaved.'

Do Christians even 'Witness' anymore? You tell 95% of people in today's world they're Lost and going to Hell unless they believe in a man who lived 2000 years ago and still hasn't returned yet and doesn't show His hand in any world events..they would only laugh..or cut you off mid-sentence with 'No thanks, buddy.'
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Well, the main problem with this theology is that it is incorrect. Many people did not believe in Jesus when they died but did not go to hell. They were the people killed in Noah's flood. If Jesus went to preach to one group of dead-in-ignorance about himself, I assume he preaches to all the dead-in-ignorance people. Hell-forever-for-non-christians is just not in the bible.

Not to say that people that know God should stop communicating the fact, just that most christians (so called) are taught by the false prophet: preachers and priests that have no idea who God really is. A stupid message is stupid (not to be too obvious). People respond accordingly.


Do Christians have their own mounting doubts? I used to encounter parking lot preachers, or folks who would hand you Gospel tracts. I haven't encountered one of these people in several decades. And you never hear of miraculous "Conversion" events happening to people these days. Where is the Holy Spirit?
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People that don't read and understand the text of the bible, and don't care to follow Jesus guidance cannot have the spirit of God. Most people I know who call themselves christians are not anything about Jesus Christ. They are churched-out religious virtue signalers. Boring and dry.

2000 year no-show of Jesus and Christian influence on culture diminishes by the year.

I say if 'God' doesnt intervene, and allows 90% of the world population to be culled by Man, you can finally say the God of the Bible doesn't exist.

I want to believe in Jesus again like I did in my 20s. It just seems damn near impossible sometimes, and God seems so hidden away. I still pray and I still try anyway.
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It's God himself that prophesized that 90% would die. Read Revelation and do the math. He will allow it. It will happen.

God is hidden. It is my personal perspective that God cannot create a second being with freewill in the universe without hiding himself, the owner and creator. My understanding is that it would mess with the actual free will. As I see it, he must hide himself, or at least make every act of his, "plausibly deniable" in order to truly establish free will in a created being: us.

Anyway, keep praying. It's a beautiful thing.

Then, take time to read the bible. It is a very difficult book to actually understand. One of the keys to help you (especially in Paul's writing) is to figure out exactly what all the pronouns refer to. Paul will go from we to you to us to they all in a short passage... and usually each pronoun refers to a different group of people. lol. Follow closely, and you will get perfect meaning.

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It’s our job to preach the gospel, the good news. It’s not our job to prove the Bible is true.

God can defend himself. If you’re saved you just tell people about Jesus. You tell them how and why you got saved. Too many people think they have to be Bible scholars and be able to debate about every point of the Bible. God didn’t ask us to do that. He can defend himself.

I think that’s where most people make a big mistake. They think that if somebody says they don’t believe the Bible or they don’t believe in God, that that destroys their argument or their opportunity to talk to them, but it doesn’t have to. I just sidestep that point and keep talking about God.

Most of the time, people just say that because they’re trying to get you to derail and stop talking. We already said in the end times they would be scoffers. Satan has done a good job making people believe the Bible is not true or full of contradictions or errors. It is not.



Period.


End of discussion. Just be faithful to tell people about Jesus. That’s our job here.





GLP