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Understanding of Thoughtforms, how to recognize them and take Control of Your mind back.

 
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This is part and parcel of the knowledge to understand how we create our reality around us.


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And ESPECIALLY how reality is created for us, willy-nilly and without our being aware of it - at times....
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The peace that passes all understanding is your birth right. All of your posts are rabbit holes that lock your awareness in illusion.
You THINK that thought is the path to freedom, you are a prisoner of your thoughts
What you are is pure unbounded awareness,( nothing exists that isn't an appearance to this awareness.)
This truth is self evident there only has to be a silent looking to know this.
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Are you trying to guess at what I believe???

There are those who are still searching for how this"Illusion" is constructed. It is constructed in the mind between the"Temples".

Yes, We are awareness housed in an avatar, until you learn how to operate the Organic CPU which is your brain/mind you will be ingrained in the"Illusion" , also as long as you keep participating in their exoteric programming... Well you are conscious enough to innerstand, but many are not yet.

Part of dispelling that Illusion is educating Yourself.

I do not think that thought alone is the path to freedom.
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Not any one particular thought - or any particular number of thoughts... but the ACTIVITY of thinking is necessary.
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The peace that passes all understanding is your birth right. All of your posts are rabbit holes that lock your awareness in illusion.
You THINK that thought is the path to freedom, you are a prisoner of your thoughts
What you are is pure unbounded awareness,( nothing exists that isn't an appearance to this awareness.)
This truth is self evident there only has to be a silent looking to know this.
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Are you trying to guess at what I believe???

There are those who are still searching for how this"Illusion" is constructed. It is constructed in the mind between the"Temples".

Yes, We are awareness housed in an avatar, until you learn how to operate the Organic CPU which is your brain/mind you will be ingrained in the"Illusion" , also as long as you keep participating in their exoteric programming... Well you are conscious enough to innerstand, but many are not yet.

Part of dispelling that Illusion is educating Yourself.

I do not think that thought alone is the path to freedom.
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Not any one particular thought - or any particular number of thoughts... but the ACTIVITY of thinking is necessary.
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Of course thinking is necessary, but how, what and if you're conscious of where or what your thoughts originate from is ever so important. Especially with some of the technology that has been employed as well as others who are skilled at manipulating your thoughts and dreams for a reason. Why it's so very important to learn to know yourself.

Ever had a song pop into your head out of nowhere but it fit your feeling or was a message in it for questions you've been wondering about?
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For more esoteric studying, these are also excellent if you're willing to put in the work.

Yes these are in my personal library.


https://imgur.com/a/2IKA3rj



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https://imgur.com/a/pnSJGrh

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lol, I have all these
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Excellent! I have many more in PDF on my external hard drive but not posting those. May look thru them and post links to them.

What are some of the other ones you have used to awaken yourself? If you don't mind sharing that is.
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I’ll have to look through my bookshelf later, lol

but what’s been going through my mind lately is Weor’s description of the second death and the mineral kingdom since so many people seem to be buying tickets there, lol

he described the time passing there, which could number in the tens of millions of years, as frighteningly slow and boring, and that sounds pretty damn scary

it also makes me wonder how many time I’ve been there, hmmm

and what else is going through my mind is Ra’s answer to the question about the veil - it’s purpose or why it is so hard to break through or something like that, because I’m going to force open my third eye before long

he said imagine life is like a poker game

if you knew everybody’s hand

you could still play

but it would be

uninteresting
Forgive your enemies, it messes with their heads.

Thoughts create, mind them well.
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Indeed you are the Placebo.






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a few books that come to mind

the Kybalion, all is mind, the universe is mental

and I have several books by David Hawkins, those are a good read
Forgive your enemies, it messes with their heads.

Thoughts create, mind them well.
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a few books that come to mind

the Kybalion, all is mind, the universe is mental

and I have several books by David Hawkins, those are a good read
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I have yet to read the Kybalion. Hermeticism teaches the universe is mental. But I agree it All takes place within the Mind. Between the"Temples" .

I would like to suggest that you also look thru Sevans works. Alot of well explained and useful information on many levels. I meet him early in 2008 and helped establish his first website. Which is also full of esoteric information.

[link to resistance2010.com (secure)]



He still calls me Mother.

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Nice thread op.

Can't find anything in the posted info to disagree with, it seems to have very similar tenets to my own path.


That said,most mystical systems are barking up the same tree, lol.
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Nice thread op.

Can't find anything in the posted info to disagree with, it seems to have very similar tenets to my own path.


That said,most mystical systems are barking up the same tree, lol.
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Thank You! Wholeness to You hf

"Mystical" with the current religious paradigms most do not go the route of the mystic way. The source of the material is ever so important tho. It took me years of digging and reading and experimenting on my own, until I asked for a mentor to help me put things together. Then I still continued after a short period of time around them to stay on that path.

The etymology of religion is , to bind. So if you practice religion you're bound to that system.

Another for example: government , govern means to control and ment is the root word of mental or mind = mind control.

Language is part of the structure this system is built on. The energy it produces and the results of those energies.

For example. Morning/Mourning. Although most see that as a greeting it carries the same energy.

I'll reply good morning to someone but prefer to say Great Day.

Just a tidbit.. hf
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Thank You! The very first statement is profound and ever so important. But I must say one has to be careful and not let nefarious beings use ones capacity for Love against them.

Will listen today while taking care of household stuff.

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From a sigil to a slave,
Fuck it all. Leave the cave!
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very interesting subject
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I believe so as well.

The mind is a very powerful component of consciousness.

Many aren't taught how to effectively use/control the mind and instead it ends up using/controlling them.
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Many? You mean everybody hf good thread OP, that s a good start.
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From a sigil to a slave,
Fuck it all. Leave the cave!
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Bingo, many are still in Plato's cave.
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From a sigil to a slave,
Fuck it all. Leave the cave!
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Bingo, many are still in Plato's cave.
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And when you realize that each one of us has his own cave...it makes even more sense tounge
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a Lot of it makes sense. That's why I don't worry about any backlash because I get more power through God the Almighty.
letitnotbe because be it let be or not does not make sense.
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Thank You! The very first statement is profound and ever so important. But I must say one has to be careful and not let nefarious beings use ones capacity for Love against them.

Will listen today while taking care of household stuff.

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Tell me of the nefarious beings?
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Thank You! The very first statement is profound and ever so important. But I must say one has to be careful and not let nefarious beings use ones capacity for Love against them.

Will listen today while taking care of household stuff.

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Tell me of the nefarious beings?

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Excellent read to help innerstand such phenomenon.


[link to veilofreality.com (secure)]

BERNHARD GUENTHER


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Readers of my blog know that there are forces affecting our planet – the hyperdimensional realm. There is also the issue of genetic Psychopathy, the question of the soul (or lack thereof), and that we are not “all the same” inside – not all of us have the ability to activate the higher centers. As mentioned before, these are very complex topics that require careful study and consideration. Then there is the topic of spirit attachments, which can alter personalities in ways ranging from subtle to very severe. There is also the possibility of an individual possessing a higher density soul – one that has incarnated in this time and age with a certain mission profile, and who therefore have a very hard time adapting to this physical experience.

Modern psychotherapy models do not acknowledge the possibility of psychic attacks and/or hyperdimensional forces working through us. Most people still have a very anthropocentric worldview. Anyone who tries to awaken from the hypnosis humanity is collectively under will be met with resistance and ridicule, which can also arise through our own minds (or work through people who are close to us), thereby draining our spirit, distracting us, and sabotaging any attempt to “escape the matrix”.

“There are a thousand things which prevent a man from awakening, which keep him in the power of his dreams. In order to act consciously with the intention of awakening, it is necessary to know the nature of the forces which keep man in a state of sleep. First of all it must be realized that the sleep in which man exists is not normal but hypnotic sleep. Man is hypnotized and this hypnotic state is continually maintained and strengthened in him. One would think that there are forces for whom it is useful and profitable to keep man in a hypnotic state and prevent him from seeing the truth and understanding his position.”

– G. I. Gurdjieff


“In the case of the idea of man being “food” for hyperdimensional beings, there is an enormous amount of both vertical and lateral corroboration of all kinds. So much so that, in fact, it is almost impossible to understand why it is not generally known. Clearly, there have been deliberate efforts to “hide this fact”. And, the fact that it is hidden may itself tell us something.

The point is, when Don Juan and Gurdjieff and the Cassiopaeans (and others) tell us that our religions, our social structure, our values, our beliefs about our spiritual nature and condition have been deliberately created to perpetuate the illusion that we are free; that we are (or can be) “special and adored children of a loving God”; that we are or can be “co-creators” with God, that we can do anything at all of a positive and powerful nature, we need to carefully examine this issue!
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Thoughtforms | The materialization of sustained ideas

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Thoughts, ideas, and concepts are tremendously powerful, influential, energetic forces.

Thoughts that are clothed with intense emotion are exponentially powerful.

Thoughts that are clear, distinct, strong and sustained by focus and concentration take on a life of their own.

These thoughts and repeated thought patterns become thoughtforms.

Thoughts which are systematically sustained by groups of people over a period of time come to life as thoughtforms in the collective consciousness of the group.

Have you ever…

…Had strong ideas about the desired outcome you envisioned for a story you wanted to write, a special event you planned to convene, a canvas on which you were painting, or a room you were renovating? You held the concept, the strong vision, the idea firmly in the forefront of your mind. You constantly brought the idea up in your mind’s eye and methodically fleshed it out until it was objectified, externalized, and finally physically manifested.

Have you ever…

…Sat in a room for a time that was filled with likeminded people whose thoughts were collectively trained on one goal, and felt the palpable group intent? The group created and shared an energetic field, a collective thoughtform.

These are examples of the deliberate, human creation of a thoughtform. The shape of our empowered self, our objectified animated existential fear(s), the shadow material sequestered in the basement of our subconscious, our addictions, our inner child-selves, are all examples of thoughtforms.

A sustained thoughtform, healthy or unhealthy, which is invisible to third dimensional (3-D) “conventional,” ocular vision, lives as an energetic form in our biofield. That is, as long as we give it our sustained attention. Human-originated thoughtforms are dependent on the people who generate them. They can be creative, uplifting and growth producing or parasitic and energy sapping.

Thoughtforms in human biofields are visible to sensitives and intuitives who are simultaneously aware of both dense and subtle bandwidths of reality. EVERYONE creates, can deliberately sustain, and summon thoughtforms with their creative inner vision.

Consider: With what exactly are people interacting when they?….



Communicate with spirit guides or animal totems who appear to them during a vision quest initiation?
Listen for guidance and “leadings” in silence, sitting on the Quaker meetinghouse bench?
Invoke the benevolence of the Prophet Muhammad?
Pray to Jesus on bended knee?
Beseech beloved ancestors as they pour the ritual libation?
Collectively witness apparitions of Mary, mother of Jesus, i.e., Marian Apparitions at: Guadeloupe, Lourdes, Fatima, and Medjugorje.
Invoke the wisdom of Ascended Masters?
Receive information that results in groundbreaking inventions and artistic masterpieces from characters in dreamscapes?
Pray for the protection and guidance of angels, archangels, and saints?
Meditate on and invoke overshadowing presences of bodhisattvas?
Every supplicant on the list above is invoking a thoughtform.

However, not all thoughtforms are created equal!

Some are generated primarily by consistent repetitive individual, human thought and emotional patterns.

Some are versions of ourselves experienced at various frequencies of our multidimensionality.

Some are generated by the collective unconscious into which we tap, and are recognized as universally shared archetypes. These thoughtforms are the grist of myths, folklore, and legends that are strikingly similar across cultures spanning the globe for eons.

Some thoughtforms are believed to exist independently of the individual or the collective unconscious. They are non-corporeal energy streams of various levels of attainment which evolve by facilitating the evolution of humanity or the Earth. These data/energy streams evolve by simultaneously assisting and learning from the experience of people in physical embodiment.

A multiplicity of these thoughtforms facilitate the evolution of the planet and/or assist the collective and groups.
Others may directly assist attuned individuals as well. Some remain with us throughout a lifetime and others only for a brief time. The energy streams who assist us at any given point match our vibration and our need for growth at that time.

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From a sigil to a slave,
Fuck it all. Leave the cave!
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Bingo, many are still in Plato's cave.
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And when you realize that each one of us has his own cave...it makes even more sense tounge
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Indeed. That cave starts in the womb and is largely based on the Mother and what she experiences.
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Great Channel. It's been awhile since I was working thru Mr GUENTHER's work but he is dead on about our current system.



YouTube channel: Veil of Reality
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They discuss Thoughtforms in this podcast.



Tom Montalks website

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Discussions on health , beliefs and suggestive/subliminal programming of the current pandemic narrative. Why it's being pushed in the mainstream.



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Human intelligence may well be a gift of our cultures.

Throw in language and opposing thumbs.

That's about it = your advantage over animals.

You don't need anything new to explain it.
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Human intelligence may well be a gift of our cultures.

Throw in language and opposing thumbs.

That's about it = your advantage over animals.

You don't need anything new to explain it.
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Hmmm another that needs to further their education.

The occult (which merely means hidden) Anatomy of the Body

Gnosis

[link to gnosticwarrior.com (secure)]

The Trees of Life and Occult Anatomy.


[link to humanityhealing.net (secure)]

Iusaaset, Mother Goddess of the Tree of Life


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Nice!!

Finders bump for later.

Thanks for the thread Flutterby!
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Nice!!

Finders bump for later.

Thanks for the thread Flutterby!
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Quite Welcome!!

I will periodically be adding more.

Other occult subjects that go along with this (thoughtforms) are :

Egregore


Tulpa



Athene's Theory of Everything



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Discussions on health , beliefs and suggestive/subliminal programming of the current pandemic narrative. Why it's being pushed in the mainstream.


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