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In this Exopolitics Today interview, UFO expert Dr. Michael E. Salla talks with Andromedan contactee Alex Collier who discusses the Andromedan Council and their multifaceted approach to freeing humanity and preventing a galactic tyranny from emerging 350 years in the future.

Alex discussed how the Andromedans instigated a broad alliance of extraterrestrial civilizations to intervene on humanity's behalf against negative groups, and how this alliance has led to a global awakening and liberation of our solar system.

Alex pointed out that negative extraterrestrial groups have been largely eliminated as a threat in our solar system, and that we are on a positive timeline where humanity will soon eliminate the last vestiges of negative human control groups.

He also comments on the accuracy of Elena Danaan's information about the Galactic Federation of Worlds, and its relationship with the Andromeda Council.

Alex has spent 30 years discussing the roles of positive and negative extraterrestrial influences on Earth, and his information has taken on greater relevance today with the unprecedented growth in awareness of humanity's true situation with off-planet visitors and their human minions.


ps: If you're feeling shell shocked like i am about what's going on on the planet, knowing the bigger picture (especially if it's positive) can help. At least that was my experience from listening to this. Draw your own conclusions. For me, I'm thinking/feeling this info is legit and worth taking into consideration.

Blessings.

NEW ALEX COLLIER INTERVIEW ON THE MARK ATTWOOD SHOW - November 22, 2021


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Collier is better than most contactees, with a fair track record. Some of what he says makes me think he has had some genuine contact...

This is worth a listen.
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Dunno, David. Sounds like more “operation trust” to me.
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Dunno, David. Sounds like more “operation trust” to me.
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Collier is better than most contactees, with a fair track record. Some of what he says makes me think he has had some genuine contact...

This is worth a listen.
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James Gilliland has Elena and Megan Rose on alot and I don't happen to see what others are seeing.

Have tried to carefully and respectfully bring it up, in other words whatever they're doing, don't want to be rude about it.

But I don't agree. Aside from some of the information that I know isn't true, there could be reasons why someone is given that.

But why does he say 2024? The vaxx has been distributed to over a billion people since 2021 and this is something I envision and pray for, healing of dna and detoxxing of vaxx for all our loved ones and anyone who's had this. But that is the 3 years given. That year is a year potentially that could see a huge depopulation and all our nations changing hands, if the dark hats succeed.

So that year as a new transformation year should NOT have been brought up. Because that is the 3 years given for the ADE response in the cats and ferrets when translated into human years, it was 3.

And that is just tip of the iceberg. Telling us the dark side is all cleared up, moon, mars, yah!!! and the bases here.

But one of the most vaxxed nations on earth has said on their news they made a mistake and as one of the most vaxxed nations on earth is having alot of vaxxed deaths.

We're having still born babies.

We're having 5 year olds up for vaccinations.

We're having in the face of real data coming out of UK and one of the most vaxxed nations showing how bad the vaxx is, governments coming out for forcing it even more, they do the opposite of sanity even more.


But the good cleaned up the big mess of evil. REALLY?


I am still sending out my SOS every day and night thanks. I don't know why all those explosions happened world wide just prior to the huge flooding in BC, at roughly 36000 feet in US/Canada/Europe, maybe its the Good but it could be something else.


And Alex, his news, and James what he normally says, thats real, but I'm not buying into anything else yet. I'm going to wait and see, and we have a big problem here on earth, it needs to be dealt with.

And over a billion people and their dna needs some healing ASAP.

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I love Alex's message. I watched all I could find in the past couple weeks including Elena's interviews. He is so positive, and the energies coming in July from Cygni, wow. Alot of healing can take place next year.

Going to keep on pushing that Sos.

In his other interviews he brought the study where a component in the brain was monitored, different for each of us, different dimensions, say 5, 6, 7, and it seems souls have connections to different places, frequencies, dimensions, multiverse. And they actually mapped that. I would love to actually see those kind of studies produced.

He said in one of his other interviews, with Elena, about prayer.

Asking for what you want in prayer and silent meditation, it creates a field of intention, and as you add prayers, it grows and draws the Universe's solutions to it.

To make an effort to know yourself, who you are and ask God you to the knowledge you need. You're more than a physical body, and when you pray and meditate with clear intentions you expand your field, with your emotions. When we're praying we are really empowering ourselves.


He basically said because people are waking up and seeing through the corruption and matrix and fake news and world, and are expecting and with their emotional bodies, seeing a better world, this crumples theirs and this is WHY they're going for the take down now.
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I move for a vote of no confidence in the federations actions toward the liberation of the surface humanity from the tyrany that has said humanity in its grip.
Today was just a day, tomorrow is gonna be better.



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Of course you have to be made to go to the link by clicking on it. It's Elena's interview, and its a wonderful interview of Alex just question what's going on.

Because I see no indication that the Good is winning, until they stop jabbing children to death!

I'm not sure if she brings it up in this video or more I've watched, but she talks about Lyra and Pleiades in several of her videos on her channel, and a couple things she says, um no, thats not it. 3 races in Lyra, not sure because there are also the felines. They go a few systems but primarily known are the moons of Sirius A or B. She talks about the Nords, now the original Lyra from earth, pre Atlantis and pre Annanuki. Other races live long but not the Nords, they're too tall, so they have heart problems.

That would be if they were tall in OUR EARTH GRAVITY, true, not their gravity, not their frequency system. Things are bigger on mars too, because its got less size and gravity than earth.
That's still our science, which is faulty and caveman (ish).

Nonetheless. There is the Pleiades problem as well.

And this doesn't just relate to Pleaides, there are things about Lyra and Vega that I'm going to say, because they need to be said. We don't have the right science. And neither does Thunderbolts, but they do a bit. It is basically akin to an electric universe, just an electric Multiverse, such as Tesla wrote about, whereas Thunderbolts just presents what we can see and study one plane. Its infinite planes.

But our concept of aging a star system is based on red shift, which even without EU, has still had so many strange inconsistencies because red shift isn't accurate. They can't tell the age of Pleaides, its not a YOUNG system, its not a million years old, they didn't Terra Form all the planets in these star systems.

They already existed and in fact, the planet in Lyra that some of us recall, was destroyed by the dark side and prior to its destruction, we had a huge exodus, to many systems, some of us on ARKS, to pleaides, and yes Taygeta, thats something in my memory banks. And have posted it previously. However it was more Pleiadian Jedi types that took us there. And then a long trek, this was a long time ago and only parts are remembered. Past life recall, with enormous chunks missing. Green skinned but not reptilian, green humanoid pleadians, plus thats a huge system and probably contained variety.

What Alcyone is, and why its often the central sun, is a huge energy input system, not young. In an electric machine, a major hub. In fact watched an video Thunderbolts associate, where he depicts the reason why Sirius is in esoteric groups depicted as the binary for our star, which it can't be, at all, but its because there is a relationship between our star and sirius A. On New Years for example when the sun is directly below us, Sirius directly overhead, and I can't remember all the things I've read about it.



But, the reason for the relationship is because Acturus, high energy gamma ray star is dragging a group of stars including ours, which is spiralling opposite of Sirius A, so we're spiralling together in direct opposite with other stars trailing behind Arcturus, in relationship to Alcyone.


That there seems to be some relationships going on.

But the main take away is you can't age Pleiades with our science and our science is bunk.


These are huge energy input systems, ie interfacing from Beyond and Higher Levels, the dimensions we call Heavenly or Home even, Angelic, God, input systems from Beyond. So naturally we feel Good system coming from Pleaides, and very mature.

Lyra, Vega is a high energy star, a fast cycling star. I can't emphasize this enough. The life and reality of life in other systems is Multidimensional, we call this 5 and 6.

Its not really like a sheet paper stacked linear going up, but its how we do it so we'll be stuck doing that until we are in upgraded bodies with bigger cpu's ie neo cortex.


But from Vegan perspective it means, we're standing still. In an earth day here, a lot more days went by there, maybe years.

In that relationship alone, even if a high energy output star could be rated by us accurately as a million years old, that would it billions of years old, many times, it cycles fast, and we would not be privy to the planetoids in that system as they would not certainly be in our dimension.


The star that Lyrans were around was probably not Vega, unless there is a war going on in 6D or 7D or whatever aligns to that star OR there are layers, planets with various layers of frequencies and people either do work on lower levels or fall.

Being under attack by the Old Empire, humans basically cosmic humans, that had to be on the lower levels only.

And that brings up a whole other question for me, because what were we doing on the lower levels where there can be wars and take overs, when I remember strongly something beyond that, where there is no wars, only Good and Kind people, no capacity for wars.

So what would have brought into war space, higher civilizations? Some kind of takeover? Some kind of corruption such as our leaders here who work for off planet bad guys.

Or did they utilize a kind of CERN type wormhole to get in and create havoc?

These are the questions I have about that earlier time period.
And haven't heard Alex say, or even James, let alone Elena address them.

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So the first video ever saw Alex give a talk was in June of 2008, just after we had a family sigthing and contact an from April of that year on. And his whole talk was about the moon, what he calls by another name but is often called Tiamat that I think of as a name meaning Mother or Terra, that they say is in the asteroid belt, no. Only a chunk is, that was a moon or a planetoid from Jupiter, that was the transport system and yes it was attacked as our Annanuki writings say, and its earth now, with a wobble because it has a chunk missing. Either moved or flung here.


When first hearing Alex, had to stop the video and paced around the house in PTSD, high panic, kept going on about how he was going to talk about the journey from Lyra, and sure enough when finally calmed down enough to put it on again, he talked about the attack on humans by the reptile old empire and the very long journey that went mars, and tiamat and lyra. And I knew it and it was when these memories started returning.

But have never understood, its impossible, is how this war, old empire thing even occurred.

Higher Human, peace. People lived in relationship with their soul families, they knew their purpose or soul missions coming in, they lived a long time, they were telepathic and fully understood each other, loved their soul families, would incarnate mother, sister, husband, friend, child. Huge huge loss and pain happened, torn apart, saw an entire planet with a beautiful loving soul group just torn away, under attack and in my memory wanted to just stay and die there with my family and be with my mother and brother, not leave them at all.

For some reason in various disasters in a prolongued old empire type never ending type war or under attack constantly, Lyrans or Humans always under attack in this lower place, which I still don't know how we got to the lower places or why, but children, were taken away, both in Lyra, and in our solar system, they kept putting kids on arks or crafts and taking them away from their families who they wanted to stay with.

I don't understand and no one has ever explained to me how a telepathic people that belonged together and were good and never harmed, equality itself, how they got thrown into wars.
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God dam, Alex looks like Santa Claus. What happen?
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I saw a video a long time ago of an interview "Collier" -- whose real name is Ralph (Something) -- did back in the '90s where he was VERY clearly full of shit and making up stuff, ad libbing as he went along. He had a stupid, sly-coy grin on his face as he did so. I'll never forget that.

Don't get me wrong. I want to believe there's an at least essential truth in his positive messages, but I ultimately wouldn't trust him any farther than I could smell his breath.
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Dunno, David. Sounds like more “operation trust” to me.
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Yes. I read that book (Childhood's End) in my twenties. I'm not feeling that sort of ending for us though. I'm really not. Already, look at the huge global pushback against the death vax. Deep state regressives were never expecting that. They're shitting themselves. Good things are coming. Something inside me is convinced of that.
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Dunno, David. Sounds like more “operation trust” to me.
Ever see the aliens at the ending of “Childhood’s End”?
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Yes. I read that book (Childhood's End) in my twenties. I'm not feeling that sort of ending for us though. I'm really not. Already, look at the huge global pushback against the death vax. Deep state regressives were never expecting that. They're shitting themselves. Good things are coming. Something inside me is convinced of that.
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There was an aspect of the ending in the novel that humanity had achieved an evolutionary metamorphosis into one collective being. The aliens were simply the ushers for the Overmind.

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Dunno, David. Sounds like more “operation trust” to me.
Ever see the aliens at the ending of “Childhood’s End”?
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I know...it was awesome.
They literally 'trained' humanity into submission.
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I hear you. And yes - they have trained much of humanity into submission and compliance. But they never counted on anything happening like what is now happening. People are waking up way faster than they ever imagined. This has to be blowing their minds. Frankly, I'm excited. I do believe we're going to prevail and ultimately take the deep state.
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James Gilliland has Elena and Megan Rose on alot and I don't happen to see what others are seeing.

Have tried to carefully and respectfully bring it up, in other words whatever they're doing, don't want to be rude about it.

But I don't agree. Aside from some of the information that I know isn't true, there could be reasons why someone is given that.

But why does he say 2024? The vaxx has been distributed to over a billion people since 2021 and this is something I envision and pray for, healing of dna and detoxxing of vaxx for all our loved ones and anyone who's had this. But that is the 3 years given. That year is a year potentially that could see a huge depopulation and all our nations changing hands, if the dark hats succeed.

So that year as a new transformation year should NOT have been brought up. Because that is the 3 years given for the ADE response in the cats and ferrets when translated into human years, it was 3.

And that is just tip of the iceberg. Telling us the dark side is all cleared up, moon, mars, yah!!! and the bases here.

But one of the most vaxxed nations on earth has said on their news they made a mistake and as one of the most vaxxed nations on earth is having alot of vaxxed deaths.

We're having still born babies.

We're having 5 year olds up for vaccinations.

We're having in the face of real data coming out of UK and one of the most vaxxed nations showing how bad the vaxx is, governments coming out for forcing it even more, they do the opposite of sanity even more.


But the good cleaned up the big mess of evil. REALLY?


I am still sending out my SOS every day and night thanks. I don't know why all those explosions happened world wide just prior to the huge flooding in BC, at roughly 36000 feet in US/Canada/Europe, maybe its the Good but it could be something else.


And Alex, his news, and James what he normally says, thats real, but I'm not buying into anything else yet. I'm going to wait and see, and we have a big problem here on earth, it needs to be dealt with.

And over a billion people and their dna needs some healing ASAP.
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Thanks. I agree that there's still way huge problems going on. Still, i'm resonating with Alex's info so i guess we'll see how fast it takes for big change to become really obvious...
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Still following wwg1wga, David?

The Mounties aren’t coming. Tyranny is on the march, and Accam’s razor demands we look at the simplest explanation.

We got hosed.
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All is not as it appears. I'm seeing cracks in their armor. They fucked up their death vax roll out big time. People are waking up big time. I can understand your pessimism but don't give up the ship yet. Every voice counts. Yours included.
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I love Alex's message. I watched all I could find in the past couple weeks including Elena's interviews. He is so positive, and the energies coming in July from Cygni, wow. Alot of healing can take place next year.

Going to keep on pushing that Sos.

In his other interviews he brought the study where a component in the brain was monitored, different for each of us, different dimensions, say 5, 6, 7, and it seems souls have connections to different places, frequencies, dimensions, multiverse. And they actually mapped that. I would love to actually see those kind of studies produced.

He said in one of his other interviews, with Elena, about prayer.

Asking for what you want in prayer and silent meditation, it creates a field of intention, and as you add prayers, it grows and draws the Universe's solutions to it.

To make an effort to know yourself, who you are and ask God you to the knowledge you need. You're more than a physical body, and when you pray and meditate with clear intentions you expand your field, with your emotions. When we're praying we are really empowering ourselves.


He basically said because people are waking up and seeing through the corruption and matrix and fake news and world, and are expecting and with their emotional bodies, seeing a better world, this crumples theirs and this is WHY they're going for the take down now.
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Well said. Thank you.
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I move for a vote of no confidence in the federations actions toward the liberation of the surface humanity from the tyrany that has said humanity in its grip.
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Either way, I don't think we have much longer to wait for definite signs of our liberation one way or the other.
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Dunno, David. Sounds like more “operation trust” to me.
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I know...it was awesome.
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I hear you. And yes - they have trained much of humanity into submission and compliance. But they never counted on anything happening like what is now happening. People are waking up way faster than they ever imagined. This has to be blowing their minds. Frankly, I'm excited. I do believe we're going to prevail and ultimately take the deep state.
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I feel the same thing. and our reality is built on belief/e-motion.
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Of course you have to be made to go to the link by clicking on it. It's Elena's interview, and its a wonderful interview of Alex just question what's going on.

Because I see no indication that the Good is winning, until they stop jabbing children to death!

I'm not sure if she brings it up in this video or more I've watched, but she talks about Lyra and Pleiades in several of her videos on her channel, and a couple things she says, um no, thats not it. 3 races in Lyra, not sure because there are also the felines. They go a few systems but primarily known are the moons of Sirius A or B. She talks about the Nords, now the original Lyra from earth, pre Atlantis and pre Annanuki. Other races live long but not the Nords, they're too tall, so they have heart problems.

That would be if they were tall in OUR EARTH GRAVITY, true, not their gravity, not their frequency system. Things are bigger on mars too, because its got less size and gravity than earth.
That's still our science, which is faulty and caveman (ish).

Nonetheless. There is the Pleiades problem as well.

And this doesn't just relate to Pleaides, there are things about Lyra and Vega that I'm going to say, because they need to be said. We don't have the right science. And neither does Thunderbolts, but they do a bit. It is basically akin to an electric universe, just an electric Multiverse, such as Tesla wrote about, whereas Thunderbolts just presents what we can see and study one plane. Its infinite planes.

But our concept of aging a star system is based on red shift, which even without EU, has still had so many strange inconsistencies because red shift isn't accurate. They can't tell the age of Pleaides, its not a YOUNG system, its not a million years old, they didn't Terra Form all the planets in these star systems.

They already existed and in fact, the planet in Lyra that some of us recall, was destroyed by the dark side and prior to its destruction, we had a huge exodus, to many systems, some of us on ARKS, to pleaides, and yes Taygeta, thats something in my memory banks. And have posted it previously. However it was more Pleiadian Jedi types that took us there. And then a long trek, this was a long time ago and only parts are remembered. Past life recall, with enormous chunks missing. Green skinned but not reptilian, green humanoid pleadians, plus thats a huge system and probably contained variety.

What Alcyone is, and why its often the central sun, is a huge energy input system, not young. In an electric machine, a major hub. In fact watched an video Thunderbolts associate, where he depicts the reason why Sirius is in esoteric groups depicted as the binary for our star, which it can't be, at all, but its because there is a relationship between our star and sirius A. On New Years for example when the sun is directly below us, Sirius directly overhead, and I can't remember all the things I've read about it.



But, the reason for the relationship is because Acturus, high energy gamma ray star is dragging a group of stars including ours, which is spiralling opposite of Sirius A, so we're spiralling together in direct opposite with other stars trailing behind Arcturus, in relationship to Alcyone.


That there seems to be some relationships going on.

But the main take away is you can't age Pleiades with our science and our science is bunk.


These are huge energy input systems, ie interfacing from Beyond and Higher Levels, the dimensions we call Heavenly or Home even, Angelic, God, input systems from Beyond. So naturally we feel Good system coming from Pleaides, and very mature.

Lyra, Vega is a high energy star, a fast cycling star. I can't emphasize this enough. The life and reality of life in other systems is Multidimensional, we call this 5 and 6.

Its not really like a sheet paper stacked linear going up, but its how we do it so we'll be stuck doing that until we are in upgraded bodies with bigger cpu's ie neo cortex.


But from Vegan perspective it means, we're standing still. In an earth day here, a lot more days went by there, maybe years.

In that relationship alone, even if a high energy output star could be rated by us accurately as a million years old, that would it billions of years old, many times, it cycles fast, and we would not be privy to the planetoids in that system as they would not certainly be in our dimension.


The star that Lyrans were around was probably not Vega, unless there is a war going on in 6D or 7D or whatever aligns to that star OR there are layers, planets with various layers of frequencies and people either do work on lower levels or fall.

Being under attack by the Old Empire, humans basically cosmic humans, that had to be on the lower levels only.

And that brings up a whole other question for me, because what were we doing on the lower levels where there can be wars and take overs, when I remember strongly something beyond that, where there is no wars, only Good and Kind people, no capacity for wars.

So what would have brought into war space, higher civilizations? Some kind of takeover? Some kind of corruption such as our leaders here who work for off planet bad guys.

Or did they utilize a kind of CERN type wormhole to get in and create havoc?

These are the questions I have about that earlier time period.
And haven't heard Alex say, or even James, let alone Elena address them.
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Lots of questions. Lots of speculation. Nowadays I'm finding interesting, plausible answers to these questions from Jacqueline Hobbs aka Oracle Girl. If you're interested here's a link to download some talks she's given about this subject matter:

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What a steaming load!

Real contactees know that it's Hatonn, and the Galactic Federation of Light calling the shots!

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Yes lots of questions and speculations, because as a seeker, who had my entire family from my childhood, then my own children, experience ufology directly, not just sightings, with memories, past life memories open up for me, and that isn't a smooth thing, you get PTSD from it, its rough. I think if I'd remembered in theta state of hypno regression like Dolores Cannon's methods for induction, it could have gone smoother.

It does at times, when the window into soul memories open, when you're in a happy blissful higher frequency state, ie feeling hugged by your mother who transitioned from this world, you feel in a good space, then when that window opens, you process it better.

For me that was jogged out of simple mars anamoly videos and pictures, and Alex Collier talk that was video'd, and then prodding into some scenes. That was raw and tumultuous and whole mountainous walls crumpled inside me, and was sick for weeks.

And what made me sick most of all was the time differentiation between Conscious Mind and our sense of time here on earth, and what our soul sees time, which doesn't exist, as. So remembering these Long Ago portions of my life as if they were a trip that I was vividly recalling from last month or last year, very short time to my soul, that was the problem.


That's why by the way, all those heavily indoctrinated folk by the television and news media, they're not easy to wake up. At least 30-40% if not more, of the population that is heavily programmed by news media, hollywood and our politicians, are NOT easy to wake up.

Rip the rug out from under someone and they're going to crumple, but it is needed.



Elena reverts back to incorrect earth science to make incorrect statements about Lyra and lyrans and Pleiadians.

Alex brings out good material but still, I don't hang my hat on any of this. I stand in what opens for me and what I experience.


They're depopulating and enslaving planet earth right now.

The SOS sent by me up every day, would in real tangible, not astral and not through channeling, have the veil lift and the Higher Universe Fleets would surround earth and start the tribunals of the dark side, while instructing councils of citizens how to manage a system in both freedom and equality so this whole planet and nature and citizens, would be upgraded to the next levels and safely.

Now please understand the difference in councils. A Council of 12, A Council of 9, A Council of 6, WTF???? That's tyranny!!!!!



No, councils of citizens all of us, as the grass roots level of governance and the STRONGEST LEVEL , able to hire and fire managers easily. Every child on a planet by the time they graduate their educational system which can take hundreds of years, because these people live thousands of years, on advanced systems, every child, is raised to be able to manage whole planetoid and solar system and even toe into galactic management. Empowerment of ALL. Growth of ALL. Healing of ALL. Freedom of ALL.

Because we're not in a free will area with non interference rules. Dark side does not obey non interference.

This is a crime against all souls, not a test, not acceptable, its a crime, it violates human souls.

CLOSE IT DOWN.

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