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Breaking- Verdict reached. Guilty

 
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This totally different from Rittenhouse.
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It's still self defense.
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And it didn't help that the defense attorneys said there was to many black pastors in the courtroom and that the victim "had dirty toenails".
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Have you tried to find out what happened in the lead up?

These guys jumped in a truck and chased the dude down.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Because he was breaking into private property!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76837502

Nope, he explored a home construction site. He may have been looking for tools or whatever. But he didn't take anything at that time.
 Quoting: CK Dexter Haven


TBH, I have xplored construction sites.

Why?

Checking quality of workmanship to decide if I wanted to consider that builder for my construction job.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Then you broke the law. You were trespassing. Period.

I assume, then, you have no problem with people you don’t know looking around in one of your “construction jobs”, even at night?
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No.

He was snooping through a house under construction.

They should have called the police to report a prowler.

I would only advocate pursuing someone if you just witnessed a violent crime, while you are on the phone with 911 to let them know where the guy is traveling. Then when a police car shows up, you turn away and let them take care of business.

These dudes were assholes looking for trouble. They found it and ended up killing someone.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith

WRONG
Citizen's arrest
A citizen’s arrest is an arrest made by any person instead of by a police officer. In tort law, a citizen's arrest is something that any person can do without being held civilly liable for interfering with another person’s interests when that interference would otherwise constitute assault, battery, and false imprisonment. This means that any person can physically detain another in order to arrest them, but state statutes define the limited circumstances in which this deprivation of liberty is allowed.
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If you try to do to me what those two kill billy hicks did to Arbery, I'm going to blow your brain out all over the street
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


I'd kill your ass first and take the time. I'm so old don't f*** with me or mine. Stay in your own damn neighborhood unless you got business coming around.

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They railroaded those guys. Didn’t even allow the jury to hear the burglars extensive criminal history. Welcome to South Africa. Whites are now second class citizens and aren’t allowed to even give the slightest disapproval of criminal blacks terrorizing their neighborhoods.
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There's no way in hell I could have found them all three guilty of murder. Only one pulled the trigger. That was self-defense.
 Quoting: Hadriana


he had NO reason to have that gun. They chased him in their vehicles then EXITED said vehicle. What was the unarmed man going to do? Pull out a rug and destroy the vehicle that they were safely in? Where's the self defense? In that argument just run him over.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80474959


Uhh if he wasn't a convicted felon he had every right to have a firearm.

The jogger attacked the dude with the gun the guy fired upon him after he attacked him that's called self-defense.

They're using this race card b******* to attack the right to self-defense.
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Because he was breaking into private property!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76837502

Nope, he explored a home construction site. He may have been looking for tools or whatever. But he didn't take anything at that time.
 Quoting: CK Dexter Haven


TBH, I have xplored construction sites.

Why?

Checking quality of workmanship to decide if I wanted to consider that builder for my construction job.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith

That's a crime.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80799952

No, it is not. If there are signs and a fence maybe. Criminal Trespassing requires some other crime to be trespassing. You cant jump someone for coming onto your property and try to "Arrest" them with a shotgun and you DAMNED SURE cant do it on a public street.
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Why did the guy who followed in his own vehicle and do nothing more than record it get a murder charge?

That seems unequal.
 Quoting: Nipples McGee


because he was part of the team that killed a man

co-conspirator
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79817562


A planned bank robbery is a team .

This was a spontaneous event in which he had no idea McMichael would shoot Avery. He didn’t even engage with Avery.
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Because he was breaking into private property!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76837502

Nope, he explored a home construction site. He may have been looking for tools or whatever. But he didn't take anything at that time.
 Quoting: CK Dexter Haven


TBH, I have xplored construction sites.

Why?

Checking quality of workmanship to decide if I wanted to consider that builder for my construction job.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith

That's a crime.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80799952


Then chase me down and see how that works out for you.

Go ahead.
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What bullshit. The dindew tried to take the guys gun away. I would have fired in self defense as well.
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If someone is ready to pull the trigger on a loaded shotgun aimed at you, I think you would try to take it away too.
 Quoting: NDFarm


The hell if I would.
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No.

He was snooping through a house under construction.

They should have called the police to report a prowler.

I would only advocate pursuing someone if you just witnessed a violent crime, while you are on the phone with 911 to let them know where the guy is traveling. Then when a police car shows up, you turn away and let them take care of business.

These dudes were assholes looking for trouble. They found it and ended up killing someone.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith

WRONG
Citizen's arrest
A citizen’s arrest is an arrest made by any person instead of by a police officer. In tort law, a citizen's arrest is something that any person can do without being held civilly liable for interfering with another person’s interests when that interference would otherwise constitute assault, battery, and false imprisonment. This means that any person can physically detain another in order to arrest them, but state statutes define the limited circumstances in which this deprivation of liberty is allowed.
[link to www.law.cornell.edu (secure)]
 Quoting: Trashcanman2


If you try to do to me what those two kill billy hicks did to Arbery, I'm going to blow your brain out all over the street
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith

WRONG
Exact same thing would have happened.
I'd do my time knowing I did a good thing for the neighborhood, the construction industry and my country.
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WRONG
Citizen's arrest
A citizen’s arrest is an arrest made by any person instead of by a police officer. In tort law, a citizen's arrest is something that any person can do without being held civilly liable for interfering with another person’s interests when that interference would otherwise constitute assault, battery, and false imprisonment. This means that any person can physically detain another in order to arrest them, but state statutes define the limited circumstances in which this deprivation of liberty is allowed.
[link to www.law.cornell.edu (secure)]
 Quoting: Trashcanman2


If you try to do to me what those two kill billy hicks did to Arbery, I'm going to blow your brain out all over the street
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


I'd kill your ass first and take the time. I'm so old don't f*** with me or mine. Stay in your own damn neighborhood unless you got business coming around.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81227119


I wouldnt bet your life on it, shit for brains
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Why did the guy who followed in his own vehicle and do nothing more than record it get a murder charge?

That seems unequal.
 Quoting: Nipples McGee


because he was part of the team that killed a man

co-conspirator
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79817562


A planned bank robbery is a team .

This was a spontaneous event in which he had no idea McMichael would shoot Avery. He didn’t even engage with Avery.
 Quoting: Nipples McGee


Hesright
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Because he was breaking into private property!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76837502

Nope, he explored a home construction site. He may have been looking for tools or whatever. But he didn't take anything at that time.
 Quoting: CK Dexter Haven


TBH, I have xplored construction sites.

Why?

Checking quality of workmanship to decide if I wanted to consider that builder for my construction job.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Then you broke the law. You were trespassing. Period.

I assume, then, you have no problem with people you don’t know looking around in one of your “construction jobs”, even at night?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81215471


They have.

I felt no need to murder them.
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I’m very glad this verdict was reached. Very glad. It’s good news for America.
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What bullshit. The dindew tried to take the guys gun away. I would have fired in self defense as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79724041


If someone is ready to pull the trigger on a loaded shotgun aimed at you, I think you would try to take it away too.
 Quoting: NDFarm


The hell if I would.
 Quoting: Ritard


I'd have shot him in the head before both feet were flat on the ground without hesitating
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what the fuck is this one now?

do we really have to be informed on every court case now and try to divide the country over it?

who fucking cares what these idiots did.
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Nope, he explored a home construction site. He may have been looking for tools or whatever. But he didn't take anything at that time.
 Quoting: CK Dexter Haven


TBH, I have xplored construction sites.

Why?

Checking quality of workmanship to decide if I wanted to consider that builder for my construction job.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith

That's a crime.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80799952

No, it is not. If there are signs and a fence maybe. Criminal Trespassing requires some other crime to be trespassing. You cant jump someone for coming onto your property and try to "Arrest" them with a shotgun and you DAMNED SURE cant do it on a public street.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81227119


Trespassing on construction sites in some states is a felony because of the giant theft problem.
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Honestly, my father saw someone robbed a convenience store. He stopped the guy at the gas pumps on the side of the road between the gas pumps and the road and held him at gunpoint until the cops got there under citizens arrest. He got a certificate of appreciation for that from the local police department. That was 40 years ago. That's the way things used to work in Georgia and it was only after this case that they changed the law.
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Citizen's arrest
A citizen’s arrest is an arrest made by any person instead of by a police officer. In tort law, a citizen's arrest is something that any person can do without being held civilly liable for interfering with another person’s interests when that interference would otherwise constitute assault, battery, and false imprisonment. This means that any person can physically detain another in order to arrest them, but state statutes define the limited circumstances in which this deprivation of liberty is allowed.
[link to www.law.cornell.edu (secure)]
 Quoting: Trashcanman2


If you try to do to me what those two kill billy hicks did to Arbery, I'm going to blow your brain out all over the street
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


I'd kill your ass first and take the time. I'm so old don't f*** with me or mine. Stay in your own damn neighborhood unless you got business coming around.
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Nope, he explored a home construction site. He may have been looking for tools or whatever. But he didn't take anything at that time.
 Quoting: CK Dexter Haven


TBH, I have xplored construction sites.

Why?

Checking quality of workmanship to decide if I wanted to consider that builder for my construction job.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Then you broke the law. You were trespassing. Period.

I assume, then, you have no problem with people you don’t know looking around in one of your “construction jobs”, even at night?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81215471


They have.

I felt no need to murder them.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith

So you would just stand there and let somebody attack you you're full of s***.
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This totally different from Rittenhouse.
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It's still self defense.
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Yes, Arbery tried to defend himself from 3 goons chasing him with a gun
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The only problem with this case is the media calling it the "Jogger murder trial" and not the "Burglar murder trial".
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WRONG
Citizen's arrest
A citizen’s arrest is an arrest made by any person instead of by a police officer. In tort law, a citizen's arrest is something that any person can do without being held civilly liable for interfering with another person’s interests when that interference would otherwise constitute assault, battery, and false imprisonment. This means that any person can physically detain another in order to arrest them, but state statutes define the limited circumstances in which this deprivation of liberty is allowed.
[link to www.law.cornell.edu (secure)]
 Quoting: Trashcanman2


If you try to do to me what those two kill billy hicks did to Arbery, I'm going to blow your brain out all over the street
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith

WRONG
Exact same thing would have happened.
I'd do my time knowing I did a good thing for the neighborhood, the construction industry and my country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81227119


You would be thinking that every minute as you do your daily soap pick up job in the prison showers.
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TBH, I have xplored construction sites.

Why?

Checking quality of workmanship to decide if I wanted to consider that builder for my construction job.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith

That's a crime.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80799952

No, it is not. If there are signs and a fence maybe. Criminal Trespassing requires some other crime to be trespassing. You cant jump someone for coming onto your property and try to "Arrest" them with a shotgun and you DAMNED SURE cant do it on a public street.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81227119


Trespassing on construction sites in some states is a felony because of the giant theft problem.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80799952

NO. Trespassing IS NOT just "being on someones land" Not even in Texas

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I agree with the jury.

This is an entirely different matter than the Rittenhouse trial.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


No it's not.

The guy was robbing construction sites.

When he confronted he fought men with guns.

It's literally the same thing.
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This totally different from Rittenhouse.
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It's still self defense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80799952


Yes, Arbery tried to defend himself from 3 goons chasing him with a gun
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80196381


You don't get to call physically attacking a guy with a gun self defense.

He had the option to wait for the cops to get there obviously with his criminal history he didn't want to take the chance of going to jail so he decided to bum rush the guys with the gun that's when he became an attacker not a defender.
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What bullshit. The dindew tried to take the guys gun away. I would have fired in self defense as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79724041

If you tried to do to me what those two kill billy hicks did to Arbery I'd have blown your fucking brains out all over the street
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81227119

Yeah, exactly what Arbery had in mind. That's why he tried to steal the shotgun, so he could use it.

New rules : black people get to whatever the hell they want to do, to whoever the hell they want to do it to.
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This totally different from Rittenhouse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34166608


It's still self defense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80799952


Yes, Arbery tried to defend himself from 3 goons chasing him with a gun
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80196381


All he had to do was stop and wait for police.

Instead he tried to fight the guys and take their gun.

You twit.
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I agree with the verdict. I know a lot of old cops who like to throw their weight around and act untouchable. They had no reason to try to detain this kid.

That said, I think the kid was probably up to something.
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