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User ID: 76803670 United States 12/01/2021 09:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The book of Zechariah and book of Revelation are connected books as both speak of the two anointed and both speak of the 4 horsemen and there are seveal other comparisons of the two books. If you take the first few chapters of zechariah which is speaking of the two anointed in the end times and take chapter 11 and 12 of revealtion you see something very incredible. The book of zechariah shows you the postion of one of the two anointed and it is described in chapter 3 of zechariah and it shows one of the anointed being a high preist and being given high priest garments. So zechariah is focusing on one of the two anointed and showing his postion. When we go over to revelation 11 we see it starts speaking of the two anointed again. Then it goes on in chapter 12 speaking of the man-child. This is show the position of the other anointed as a Civil leader as he rules with a rod of Iron.. And again Zechariah focuses on the high priest anointed and revelation focuses on the civil leader anointed. As zechariah shows the two anointed through zerrubabel and Joshua one being the civil leader and the other being the high priest. What confuses christion is they think they are going to reign on earth with Jesus during the millennium. Fist of all Jesus himself said his kingdom is not of this earth. Secondly he said his kingdom will never pass away. If you read ezekiel and jeremiah it tells us the earthly kingdom during the millennium will be davidic/levitic which means separation of the kingship and priesthood. Meaning Jesus and the saints can be either a king or a priest therefore when Jesus being both King and High Preist and says the bride are kings and priests would be in violation of the earth kingdom rules. So who could have dominion on earth during the millennium? We have 2 positions of dominion open...the kingship and the high preisthood.....which is what the 2 anointeds postion will be during the millennium when the J*ws are having thier 1000 year time of testing. They have to believe in Jesus by faith and if Jesus is ruling on earth you eliminate the faith factor....therfore get the two anointed to lead the people and have Jesus and those who already passed the test of faith in Jesus live in heaven for the duration of the millennium in those mansions prepared for them......why build manstion in heaven if all the saints are going to downgrade to live on earth for another 1000 years? THe verse that confuses Christians into thinking Jesus will reign on earth Revelation 5: King James Bible And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. See that word "ON" the earth in the above scripture....that word in the original greek is "epi" which can mean "ON" but it can also be translated "ABOVE" or "OVER".....and as we know heaven is ABOVE and OVER earth. Revelation 5 another translation: Weymouth New Testament And hast formed them into a Kingdom to be priests to our God, And they reign over the earth." Jesus has his own kingdom which is a heavenly Melchelzedek kingdom where all who live there can be kings and preists. Why would Jesus and the saints want to come live on earth where it is only permissible to be either a king or a priest when they can be both kings and priests in heaven and live in mansions. When the J#ws pass their test at the end of the millennium they too will become kings and priests and Jesus will create a new heaven and new earth where all can be kings and priest and the former Davidic/levitic kingdom will pass away but the two anointed who where in charge of the kingship and priesthood will sit on the left and right of Jesus as an eternal reminder of the former Davici/levitic kingdom and the former earth. Last Edited by waterman on 12/01/2021 09:32 PM -Heed the warning or endure the mourning Favor ain't fair |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80493300 United States 12/01/2021 09:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve. 2Corinthians 11:13-15 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75311439 United States 12/01/2021 10:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Says he will rule the nations with an iron rod. Quoting: InChristAmen Jesus says someone else will rule the nations at the time of the end. Jesus ascended into Heaven, whereas this man-child is "caught up to God and His throne" The word for "caught up" is the same as 1 Thessalonians 4:16, or to be raptured... the greek word used is "harpazo" which means to "forcefully seize or snatch". Jesus didn't forcefully get carried away, He ascended into a cloud. Looking for people who study the Word to offer any input. Anyways, just looking at the scriptures tonight. THE GREAT SIGN IN HEAVEN [link to nemesis8.com (secure)] |
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User ID: 76803670 United States 12/01/2021 11:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The book of Zechariah speaks of the 2 anointed and calls them two olive trees just like the book of revelation chapter 11 speaks of the two anointed and calls them the two olive trees. Quoting: waterman The book of Zechariah and book of Revelation are connected books as both speak of the two anointed and both speak of the 4 horsemen and there are seveal other comparisons of the two books. If you take the first few chapters of zechariah which is speaking of the two anointed in the end times and take chapter 11 and 12 of revealtion you see something very incredible. The book of zechariah shows you the postion of one of the two anointed and it is described in chapter 3 of zechariah and it shows one of the anointed being a high preist and being given high priest garments. So zechariah is focusing on one of the two anointed and showing his postion. When we go over to revelation 11 we see it starts speaking of the two anointed again. Then it goes on in chapter 12 speaking of the man-child. This is show the position of the other anointed as a Civil leader as he rules with a rod of Iron.. And again Zechariah focuses on the high priest anointed and revelation focuses on the civil leader anointed. As zechariah shows the two anointed through zerrubabel and Joshua one being the civil leader and the other being the high priest. What confuses christion is they think they are going to reign on earth with Jesus during the millennium. Fist of all Jesus himself said his kingdom is not of this earth. Secondly he said his kingdom will never pass away. If you read ezekiel and jeremiah it tells us the earthly kingdom during the millennium will be davidic/levitic which means separation of the kingship and priesthood. Meaning Jesus and the saints can be either a king or a priest therefore when Jesus being both King and High Preist and says the bride are kings and priests would be in violation of the earth kingdom rules. So who could have dominion on earth during the millennium? We have 2 positions of dominion open...the kingship and the high preisthood.....which is what the 2 anointeds postion will be during the millennium when the J*ws are having thier 1000 year time of testing. They have to believe in Jesus by faith and if Jesus is ruling on earth you eliminate the faith factor....therfore get the two anointed to lead the people and have Jesus and those who already passed the test of faith in Jesus live in heaven for the duration of the millennium in those mansions prepared for them......why build manstion in heaven if all the saints are going to downgrade to live on earth for another 1000 years? THe verse that confuses Christians into thinking Jesus will reign on earth Revelation 5: King James Bible And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. See that word "ON" the earth in the above scripture....that word in the original greek is "epi" which can mean "ON" but it can also be translated "ABOVE" or "OVER".....and as we know heaven is ABOVE and OVER earth. Revelation 5 another translation: Weymouth New Testament And hast formed them into a Kingdom to be priests to our God, And they reign over the earth." Jesus has his own kingdom which is a heavenly Melchelzedek kingdom where all who live there can be kings and preists. Why would Jesus and the saints want to come live on earth where it is only permissible to be either a king or a priest when they can be both kings and priests in heaven and live in mansions. When the J#ws pass their test at the end of the millennium they too will become kings and priests and Jesus will create a new heaven and new earth where all can be kings and priest and the former Davidic/levitic kingdom will pass away but the two anointed who where in charge of the kingship and priesthood will sit on the left and right of Jesus as an eternal reminder of the former Davici/levitic kingdom and the former earth. The correct answer has been posted above -Heed the warning or endure the mourning Favor ain't fair |