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| SeaLass34
Offer Upgrade  User ID: 80375328  United States11/29/2021 06:21 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My Dad has prostate cancer that metastasized in his spine/bones, and it is now causing severe pain in his lower back (so bad that he is frequently throwing up/dry heaving fro pain levels). The doctor he saw Saturday (at the ER) made it sound like there is not much to do about it other than take Oxys, which is extremely frustrating and I know there must be some other alternatives. I'm very concerned because obviously the Oxys are just going to cause more pain and side effects; that is NOT a solution. He sees his normal doctor tomorrow AM. Anyone with experience in dealing with pain in bones/pain from cancer, PLEASE throw me ideas that have worked. - CBD? If so, any specific type to look for? Any recommendations of dose/frequency/etc is appreciated too. - I'm debating on looking into kratom for him.... I actually have several strains I've kept on hand for emergencies/end of the world stuff, but if memory serves, the red strains are best for pain relief? I'm currently giving him turmeric, ACV, coconut oil, olive leaf extract, probiotics, vit D3/zinc.... etc. The REAL issue now is pain relief. Thank you kindly for any genuine responses. Knowing he is in this bad of pain is killing me.  When the student is ready, the teacher appears. |
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User ID: 79903136 United States11/29/2021 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My Dad has prostate cancer that metastasized in his spine/bones, and it is now causing severe pain in his lower back (so bad that he is frequently throwing up/dry heaving fro pain levels). Quoting: SeaLass34 The doctor he saw Saturday (at the ER) made it sound like there is not much to do about it other than take Oxys, which is extremely frustrating and I know there must be some other alternatives. I'm very concerned because obviously the Oxys are just going to cause more pain and side effects; that is NOT a solution. He sees his normal doctor tomorrow AM. Anyone with experience in dealing with pain in bones/pain from cancer, PLEASE throw me ideas that have worked. - CBD? If so, any specific type to look for? Any recommendations of dose/frequency/etc is appreciated too. - I'm debating on looking into kratom for him.... I actually have several strains I've kept on hand for emergencies/end of the world stuff, but if memory serves, the red strains are best for pain relief? I'm currently giving him turmeric, ACV, coconut oil, olive leaf extract, probiotics, vit D3/zinc.... etc. The REAL issue now is pain relief. Thank you kindly for any genuine responses. Knowing he is in this bad of pain is killing me. First, I am so sorry to hear about your father. I hope he is able to find some relief from the pain soon. I have lower back pain, think I have a slipped disc or something, and I have one of those inversion tables. Takes the weight off my spine and does help somewhat with the pain. Maybe an idea? In the eye of the storm ... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 81296336 United States11/29/2021 06:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excerpt from; [link to www.gonstead.com (secure)] "The full spine radiograph is an integral assessment tool in the Gonstead system. Other important Gonstead examination procedures include static and dynamic palpation primarily of paraspinal bone structure and soft tissue, visualization of spinal motion, posture, gait and physical signs of inflammation near the joints, instrumentation such as para-spinal skin temperature assessment and other tools, which are used to examine all facets of the patient's neuro-muscular-skeletal characteristics." Find a Chiropractor that does this (above) and get him there. Go to the link and read it all, then get to work on getting him well. It works. In fact it's the only way. Stay away from the quacks that shell out pills. Pills just make it worse! Best wishes! |
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| grannyB
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75155617 United States11/29/2021 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I’ve taken care of many bone CA patients and the in dwelling epidural catheter is a godsend by delivering pain meds directly into the spine. May want to discuss this with his oncologist. [link to my.clevelandclinic.org (secure)] |
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| SeaLass34
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| Half Past Midnight
User ID: 78659823 United States11/29/2021 07:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree on the kratom, Barnes strains are supposed to be real good for pain. A lot of places online will send you free samples to try. I also just started back on the Four Sigmatic chaga elixir and chaga coffee. I've been using Teeccino chaga coffee and tea substitutes. And the CBD I am using is Social brand (cause I got it free). It's broad spectrum. I believe you want "full spectrum" for best quality. I have RA and my back is all dislocated in the sacral area. I can't take pills or drink alcohol so the above mentioned items are truly lifesavers. Last Edited by Half Past Midnight on 11/29/2021 07:20 PM |
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| Dr.Rick
User ID: 80785544 United States11/29/2021 07:25 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My Dad has prostate cancer that metastasized in his spine/bones, and it is now causing severe pain in his lower back (so bad that he is frequently throwing up/dry heaving fro pain levels). Quoting: SeaLass34 The doctor he saw Saturday (at the ER) made it sound like there is not much to do about it other than take Oxys, which is extremely frustrating and I know there must be some other alternatives. I'm very concerned because obviously the Oxys are just going to cause more pain and side effects; that is NOT a solution. He sees his normal doctor tomorrow AM. Anyone with experience in dealing with pain in bones/pain from cancer, PLEASE throw me ideas that have worked. - CBD? If so, any specific type to look for? Any recommendations of dose/frequency/etc is appreciated too. - I'm debating on looking into kratom for him.... I actually have several strains I've kept on hand for emergencies/end of the world stuff, but if memory serves, the red strains are best for pain relief? I'm currently giving him turmeric, ACV, coconut oil, olive leaf extract, probiotics, vit D3/zinc.... etc. The REAL issue now is pain relief. Thank you kindly for any genuine responses. Knowing he is in this bad of pain is killing me. I have been using kraton for years now after being booted from pain management for positive THC. Have bone on bone in my spine. They wanted to fuse 7 vertebra. I don't trust any so called medical professional that much. Using the kratom is the only thing that gets me by and able to at least deal with the pain for the most part. The green and red both help with pain. The green has more of a stimulant effect and the red more relaxing so green in the morning and through the day every 3 hours and red before bed. It's been working for me. I don't do pharmaceuticals and this is the best natural option I've found. I also take turmeric. 3 half gram capsules 3 times a day. It helps with inflammation and you can order it in bulk and make your own capsules.. Last Edited by Dr.Rick on 11/29/2021 07:29 PM Peace Love and Leo |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78551315 United States11/29/2021 07:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First, I'm sorry to hear your dad has cancer and is in so much pain. If it's metastasized to his bones, then he most likely doesn't have much time left. As others suggested, morphine (oral or via IV picc line) would be a good way to minimize the pain. The goal at this stage is to try and keep them as comfortable as possible. Prayers for you and your dad. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78440044 United States11/29/2021 07:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My Dad has prostate cancer that metastasized in his spine/bones, and it is now causing severe pain in his lower back (so bad that he is frequently throwing up/dry heaving fro pain levels). Quoting: SeaLass34 The doctor he saw Saturday (at the ER) made it sound like there is not much to do about it other than take Oxys, which is extremely frustrating and I know there must be some other alternatives. I'm very concerned because obviously the Oxys are just going to cause more pain and side effects; that is NOT a solution. He sees his normal doctor tomorrow AM. Anyone with experience in dealing with pain in bones/pain from cancer, PLEASE throw me ideas that have worked. - CBD? If so, any specific type to look for? Any recommendations of dose/frequency/etc is appreciated too. - I'm debating on looking into kratom for him.... I actually have several strains I've kept on hand for emergencies/end of the world stuff, but if memory serves, the red strains are best for pain relief? I'm currently giving him turmeric, ACV, coconut oil, olive leaf extract, probiotics, vit D3/zinc.... etc. The REAL issue now is pain relief. Thank you kindly for any genuine responses. Knowing he is in this bad of pain is killing me. Not cbd, but isolates. One of them works better than antibiotics against superbugs, (simian virus 40, sv40 is an ontologic ,cancer causing virus proving cancer is a pathogen,killable) It's one of the precursors so has a A Attached.i think cbd-a or cbg-a One isolate promotes bone growth. There is a lab that sells isolates in Prineville, Oregon. I believe isolates are legal as you need to add stuff or burn it to get the effect. Can be eaten, or given in glycerin suppository. Kindest regards and gentle hugs to you and your dad. I pray he gets well soon. |
| PSA
User ID: 11662298 United States11/29/2021 07:37 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Agree, I don't know about your dad but oxy and codeine make me puke, morphine doesn't and it works MUCH better. "The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is." Winston Churchill Thread: THE NANO/AI/FREQUENCY/BCI MIND CONTROL SYSTEM Thread: Humans are now "hackable animals"? [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
| oiko
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| PSA
User ID: 11662298 United States11/29/2021 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My Dad has prostate cancer that metastasized in his spine/bones, and it is now causing severe pain in his lower back (so bad that he is frequently throwing up/dry heaving fro pain levels). Quoting: SeaLass34 The doctor he saw Saturday (at the ER) made it sound like there is not much to do about it other than take Oxys, which is extremely frustrating and I know there must be some other alternatives. I'm very concerned because obviously the Oxys are just going to cause more pain and side effects; that is NOT a solution. He sees his normal doctor tomorrow AM. Anyone with experience in dealing with pain in bones/pain from cancer, PLEASE throw me ideas that have worked. - CBD? If so, any specific type to look for? Any recommendations of dose/frequency/etc is appreciated too. - I'm debating on looking into kratom for him.... I actually have several strains I've kept on hand for emergencies/end of the world stuff, but if memory serves, the red strains are best for pain relief? I'm currently giving him turmeric, ACV, coconut oil, olive leaf extract, probiotics, vit D3/zinc.... etc. The REAL issue now is pain relief. Thank you kindly for any genuine responses. Knowing he is in this bad of pain is killing me. Olive leaf interfered with some nerve pain medications working that I've taken. Prayers for you both. "The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is." Winston Churchill Thread: THE NANO/AI/FREQUENCY/BCI MIND CONTROL SYSTEM Thread: Humans are now "hackable animals"? [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
| Alpacalips
User ID: 77694187 United States11/29/2021 07:40 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm so sorry your dad is suffering. Believe it or not Claritin helps bone pain.  Last Edited by Alpacalips on 11/29/2021 09:37 PM |
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| DellJustDell
User ID: 80667743 United States11/29/2021 07:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First, I'm sorry to hear your dad has cancer and is in so much pain. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78551315 If it's metastasized to his bones, then he most likely doesn't have much time left. As others suggested, morphine (oral or via IV picc line) would be a good way to minimize the pain. The goal at this stage is to try and keep them as comfortable as possible. Prayers for you and your dad. Exactly. Adding my prayers. Every generation believed they were the last, but we have the one thing they didn't; the timepiece, Israel! It says there are seven Kings, means they are alive! Carter, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden... |
| Zebster
User ID: 79772691  Australia11/29/2021 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cancer is an open wound internally. If the environment around the cancer is acidic or alkaline it causes pain. Think to when you had a cut on your finger, lemon juice, vinegar on that cut causes immense pain. I’ve found taking MSM, Methylsulfonylmethane, around 6 grams a day, creates an internal environment in the body that dulls pain considerably. Sugar and carbohydrates increases pain levels. Eliminating carbohydrates reduces the pain substantially. Eliminate all sofa ( sugar or sugar free) as these are highly acidic. I also take 2 to 3 grams, spread through out the day, of magnesium chelate which I found helps with pain also. Keep a food and drink diary and track pain levels through the day/night. You’ll find certain foods trigger higher pain levels. Soursop/Graviola tea also has a calming effect and reduces pain. Yes, I currently have cancer. Hope your dad finds some relief. Zebra |
| tkwasny
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| Tidbits
User ID: 77547432  Canada11/29/2021 08:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sad but true. Full spectrum cannabis oil (SImpson Oil) from a decent, high CBD and high THC strain, did little for the pain from bone cancer. Soulless fake humans are already AI. They get triggered by particular words, symbols etc. They can't really bother about the meaning. They just look for the trigger words. Their language & comprehension skills are 0. Some bots have bods, others don't. Cara Is Spirit |
| notsofastmr
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