New Personality Disorder Added to the DSM IV - Do you know one?

The DSm is a fraud. Psychology is not a science, it is a subjective art. Western based mental arts are as incompetent as Weatern Medicine.

To add stuff to the list, a bunch of shrinks sit around in a room, toss out some symptoms, and invent a disorder. No science involved.

The martyr is a Type 2-Enneagram, the Helper. They are destitute inside, having lost the ability to believe in themselves. So they help others, as their self-worth is based on being repaid for the help they give, asked for or not. They will turn on you if you do not acknowledge them for their "help".

They need to believe in themselves, and understand that their helping is counter-productive.

Lots of nurses are 2s.

A lot of 3s, the Performer, are these shiny, no hair out of place, sociopaths. Their self worth is based on having others see them as exemplary. So they dress up perfectly, and so on. But they, too, are empty inside, and a fertile ground for sociopathy.

A newly identified personality disorder has been added to the DSM IV. While this disorder has been exhibited for decades, if not centuries, and includes many characteristics of personality disorders already included in the DSM, mental health professionals agreed that the surge in prevalence and increased severity of pathology of this disorder, as seen in recent years, warrants this disorder being given it’s own name and entry in the DSM at this time.
Taking into consideration the wide range of abhorrent and despicable behaviors displayed by those afflicted with this disorder, it was unanimously agreed that the most appropriate name for this new disorder is, Pathological Scumbag, which shall be referenced as PS for the remainder of this article.
The PS has combined characteristics of the Pathological Liar and Sociopath, with an overriding presentation of Narcissistic Personality. There are, however, some excluding behaviors which prevent the assignment of these diagnoses and create the need for the new diagnosis of Pathological Scumbag.
First, you will see the Narcissistic Personality. Narcissistic personality is characterized by behavior or a fantasy of grandiosity, a lack of empathy and a need to be admired by others. Narcissistic personality has a pathological unrealistic or inflated sense of self-importance, has an inability to see the viewpoints of others, and is hypersensitive to the opinions of others. Meeting five of the following criteria indicates the presence of this disorder.
1. Grandiose sense of self-importance.
2. Fantasies of and preoccupied with beauty, brilliance, ideal love, power, or unlimited success.
3. A belief of being special and unique and can only be understood or a need to associate with people of high status.
4. A need for excessive admiration.
5. An unreasonable expectation of being treated with favor or excepting an automatic compliance to her / his wishes.
6. Will use others to achieve her / his goals.
7. Lacks empathy.
8. Believes others are envious of her / him or is envious of others.
9. Contemptuous or haughty attitudes / behaviors.

In the PS, you will typically see all 9 criteria met with emphasis on 1, 4, 5, 6, and 8.

Layered on top of the Narcissistic Personality, the PS will meet many criteria of the Pathological Liar. The difference is, where the Pathological Liar lies for no reason – not to gain advantage, impress, or hurt others, (See [link to thelastpsychiatrist.com] ).
the PS lies for all of these reasons and seems to often be connected to criteria 6 – will use others to achieve her/his goals. The PS lies intentionally, with premeditation, and purposefully, which prevents the diagnosis of a Pathological Liar, who can’t seem to help themselves.

Another layer of pathology includes some of the characteristics of the sociopath. A good description of this disorder can be seen here: [link to www.hss.caltech.edu] I will only reference the pertinent characteristics as seen in the PS. These include but are not limited to:
• Glibness and Superficial Charm
• Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.
• Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."
• Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
• Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them.
• Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
• People with this disorder appear to be charming at times, and make relationships, but to them, these are relationships in name only. They are ended whenever necessary or when it suits them, and the relationships are without depth or meaning, including marriages. They seem to have an innate ability to find the weakness in people, and are ready to use these weaknesses to their own ends through deceit, manipulation, or intimidation, and gain pleasure from doing so.

So one may ask, why not assign the diagnosis of Sociopath. The excluding behavior is that the PS feels remorse and guilt, which turns to shame, causing the PS to turn on the people who have been lied to and deceived in an effort to cover up the lies and sociopathic behavior creating an endless cycle of scumbag behavior that reaches the level of pathology in a very short period of time. A true Sociopath does not feel shame or remorse. And it is this difference that creates the Pathological Scumbag – the deep rooted shame and knowledge of their own despicable behavior and treatment of others causes the PS to continue to lie, manipulate, and deceive, in order to maintain the illusions of the Narcissistic Personality, which is propped up by the other identified personality disorders (with excluding behaviors noted), this resulting in a disorder in a class of its own, the Pathological Scumbag.

Studies have been conducted to find a treatment for this disorder but none have been successful. It seems the best thing to do is isolate the PS and remove the PS from all positions of power that support the Narcissistic delusions as a first step. If it were possible to put the PS on an island alone, where the PS would be forced to end the self-perpetuating cycles of pathology, there may be some improvement in the overall presenting behaviors. Since this is not possible, the prognosis is quite dismal for the Pathological Scumbag. Most people diagnosed with PS continue to lead a very sad and pathetic existence, eaten up by shame that is only alleviated by brief moments of exuberance when another scheme and manipulation has been successful in reaching a new goal. As that brief moment of pleasure fades into self-loathing, the PS must find a new scheme, a new victim, involving more lying and immoral behavior, to get the pleasure need filled. You can see how this is never-ending. It is generally agreed that the normal treatments of disorders are useless with the PS and professionals are encouraged to end all therapeutic interventions as soon as the diagnosis of a Pathological Scumbag has been identified.

A newly identified personality disorder has been added to the DSM IV. While this disorder has been exhibited for decades, if not centuries, and includes many characteristics of personality disorders already included in the DSM, mental health professionals agreed that the surge in prevalence and increased severity of pathology of this disorder, as seen in recent years, warrants this disorder being given it’s own name and entry in the DSM at this time.
Taking into consideration the wide range of abhorrent and despicable behaviors displayed by those afflicted with this disorder, it was unanimously agreed that the most appropriate name for this new disorder is, Pathological Scumbag, which shall be referenced as PS for the remainder of this article.
The PS has combined characteristics of the Pathological Liar and Sociopath, with an overriding presentation of Narcissistic Personality. There are, however, some excluding behaviors which prevent the assignment of these diagnoses and create the need for the new diagnosis of Pathological Scumbag.
First, you will see the Narcissistic Personality. Narcissistic personality is characterized by behavior or a fantasy of grandiosity, a lack of empathy and a need to be admired by others. Narcissistic personality has a pathological unrealistic or inflated sense of self-importance, has an inability to see the viewpoints of others, and is hypersensitive to the opinions of others. Meeting five of the following criteria indicates the presence of this disorder.
1. Grandiose sense of self-importance.
2. Fantasies of and preoccupied with beauty, brilliance, ideal love, power, or unlimited success.
3. A belief of being special and unique and can only be understood or a need to associate with people of high status.
4. A need for excessive admiration.
5. An unreasonable expectation of being treated with favor or excepting an automatic compliance to her / his wishes.
6. Will use others to achieve her / his goals.
7. Lacks empathy.
8. Believes others are envious of her / him or is envious of others.
9. Contemptuous or haughty attitudes / behaviors.

In the PS, you will typically see all 9 criteria met with emphasis on 1, 4, 5, 6, and 8.

Layered on top of the Narcissistic Personality, the PS will meet many criteria of the Pathological Liar. The difference is, where the Pathological Liar lies for no reason – not to gain advantage, impress, or hurt others, (See [link to thelastpsychiatrist.com] ).
the PS lies for all of these reasons and seems to often be connected to criteria 6 – will use others to achieve her/his goals. The PS lies intentionally, with premeditation, and purposefully, which prevents the diagnosis of a Pathological Liar, who can’t seem to help themselves.

Another layer of pathology includes some of the characteristics of the sociopath. A good description of this disorder can be seen here: [link to www.hss.caltech.edu] I will only reference the pertinent characteristics as seen in the PS. These include but are not limited to:
• Glibness and Superficial Charm
• Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.
• Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."
• Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
• Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them.
• Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
• People with this disorder appear to be charming at times, and make relationships, but to them, these are relationships in name only. They are ended whenever necessary or when it suits them, and the relationships are without depth or meaning, including marriages. They seem to have an innate ability to find the weakness in people, and are ready to use these weaknesses to their own ends through deceit, manipulation, or intimidation, and gain pleasure from doing so.

So one may ask, why not assign the diagnosis of Sociopath. The excluding behavior is that the PS feels remorse and guilt, which turns to shame, causing the PS to turn on the people who have been lied to and deceived in an effort to cover up the lies and sociopathic behavior creating an endless cycle of scumbag behavior that reaches the level of pathology in a very short period of time. A true Sociopath does not feel shame or remorse. And it is this difference that creates the Pathological Scumbag – the deep rooted shame and knowledge of their own despicable behavior and treatment of others causes the PS to continue to lie, manipulate, and deceive, in order to maintain the illusions of the Narcissistic Personality, which is propped up by the other identified personality disorders (with excluding behaviors noted), this resulting in a disorder in a class of its own, the Pathological Scumbag.

Studies have been conducted to find a treatment for this disorder but none have been successful. It seems the best thing to do is isolate the PS and remove the PS from all positions of power that support the Narcissistic delusions as a first step. If it were possible to put the PS on an island alone, where the PS would be forced to end the self-perpetuating cycles of pathology, there may be some improvement in the overall presenting behaviors. Since this is not possible, the prognosis is quite dismal for the Pathological Scumbag. Most people diagnosed with PS continue to lead a very sad and pathetic existence, eaten up by shame that is only alleviated by brief moments of exuberance when another scheme and manipulation has been successful in reaching a new goal. As that brief moment of pleasure fades into self-loathing, the PS must find a new scheme, a new victim, involving more lying and immoral behavior, to get the pleasure need filled. You can see how this is never-ending. It is generally agreed that the normal treatments of disorders are useless with the PS and professionals are encouraged to end all therapeutic interventions as soon as the diagnosis of a Pathological Scumbag has been identified.

Sorry this quote is so long...but it's good to have
the whole list (above) available when you are referring to
more info you may have on the topic. My info is more
from personal experience than from classic education--
tho I do have 2 degrees & a psychology minor.
First, the PS is a very REAL individual out there--even
though I realize this is a spoof on narcissists and
sociopaths. The persons who I have met with PS are
members of AA and NA who have run amuck because they can't
work the 12 steps to free themselves of these disorders.
They can do a HORRIFIC amount of damage if you get involved with these folks and if you are naive in believing they have real emotions--which they are feigning, of course..... I went on an AA 12th step call with my AA sponsor. I was 4 years sober. Sponsor was a narcissist, too--but a harmless variety and was really working a good program. He says: "Wait till you meet this Ken--you will love him, he's like a MAGNET!" Sponsor had been helping this fellow for a year up in the mountains where Ken was hiding from some gang he had double-crossed in a drug-buy. I was WARNED about him...but I was trapped by my own achilles heal--wanting to help. I moved this person into my home from his mountain cabin the next day and tried to get him into AA. My sponsor was horrified and wouldn't have anything to do with him! Well, my PS ended up drunk in a dumpster about 3 days down from the mountain--from there the "mission" to get this guy sober in AA and turn his life around turned into a 4 year nightmare. It took my 4 years, his family's 3 years after mine and then one more kind hearted person to even intervene where he would hold a job! Not to blaim AA or NA--which have saved 1,000s of lives....just a headsup for you guys SPOOFING PSYCHOLOGICAL SCUMBAGS. They are out there and you will instantly love them--really love them--when you are unfortunate enough to come into their radar. Good luck!

Maybe the guy was just an alcoholic/addict not ready to quit and hadn't really hit bottom because there are too many co-dependent enablers around to help him! Just sayin'

This thread is quite educational, 2X...

This thread is quite educational, 2X...

This thread is quite educational, 2X...




That it is. I especially liked the denial and victim mentaltity portions of it.....

This thread is quite educational, 2X...




That it is. I especially liked the denial and victim mentaltity portions of it.....

What I really like is how 2X's gorgeous middle finger never forgets to flip someone off...

It's the one that's always watching... ya know what I mean?

Perhaps you are Anonymous Coward User ID: 361885, who quoted a version of the OP that is not what was actually written.

Perhaps you are Anonymous Coward User ID: 361885, who quoted a version of the OP that is not what was actually written.



My my my... isn't that interesting...

Just keeps getting better!

Perhaps you are Anonymous Coward User ID: 361885, who quoted a version of the OP that is not what was actually written.



My my my... isn't that interesting...

Just keeps getting better!




Yup, someone is pining for the zero to bitch in .6 seconds t-shirt.

ooops! I thought this was a real thread!?! Of course I realized it was a FAKE diagnosis, but I thought the intention was towards better understanding of REAL problems caused by narcissists!

DISCLAIMER: I'm NOT part of any REAL quarrels between any posters on this thread! Please disregard any and all communications for which I've personally posted on this thread. I will now step out of this thread..... quietly...

going....going.....GONE!

I gotta say...

GLP's never ceased to entertain, over the years...

There's always been something absurd going on, something cryptic, something inane, something devious...

Always there, tried and true, to entertain...

A little something for everyone.

Now if you'll all excuse me, I'm gonna go take a big shit.

Jeez, I worked for that guy in 1999.

This thread is quite educational, 2X...




That it is. I especially liked the denial and victim mentaltity portions of it.....






Yeah, looks like straight from the Oprah playbook,lmfao....

Those men are women hater basher abusers, lol.......

Jeez, I worked for that guy in 1999.

lol - I think this is a personality type everyone has encountered at some point in their life.

Jeez, I worked for that guy in 1999.

Paris Hilton and all the other Jollywood girls with no panties and a drink in their hand.

And then, of course, there is Hillary Clinton and her lecherous husband Bill.


No, nooooo...you are mistaken! The above mentioned people have NO REMORSE! This new diagnosis says that the people have remorse and shame and therefore have to continually act out to alleviate their own lies and shame. BIG difference!

Well, this is based on the idea that this new diagnosis is REAL! ha ha I know plenty of narcissists, but none of them seem to have remorse. How could one tell if a sociopath has remorse since they feign ALL emotions and are very adept at doing so???

Pathological Scumbag...gotta love that moniker!

Maybe the guy was just an alcoholic/addict not ready to quit and hadn't really hit bottom because there are too many co-dependent enablers around to help him! Just sayin'


Bingo! Maybe the qualifications of an ENABLER should be listed here so that people begin to realize the difference between enabling and really helping someone. Often, the enabler is getting something out of the process, whether he/she knows it or not. Goes back to that saying, "Give someone a fish and he eats for a day. Teach someone to fish and he eats for a lifetime."