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What do ATHIESTS say caused the BIG BANG?

 
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What do ATHIESTS say caused the BIG BANG?
Something had to create this something. even if the Universe was a vacuum; who created the vacuum for it to blossom in?

Who created the creation we are creating on?

How and why is this simple question with an OBVIOUS answer so trivialized and marginalized?

ISN'T THE QUESTION ALONE PROOF OFF SOMETHING ELSE?
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Probably the Big Fuse ...

Cue the pagan Sagan, 'Billions and Zillions of years ago ...'
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Why do you need something to have started it all? It makes sense that there is this void that is just always there, and within this void, on a long enough timeline, universes spark on and off in the same way that at the very bottom level of matter, quantum fluctuations cause matter to pop in and out of existence constantly, like stars.

There's all sorts of potential physical reasons for a universe to pop into existence, without needing to bring sky-daddies into it. Why, one could argue that you yourself have caused the universe to exist, by the act of looking, causing a cascade effect of quantum probability collapses that create a physicalized reality in front of you, and propagates time from the nowness of this moment into the past. That's just as logical as your claim.

Besides, if things need a creator, what created the creator? You get into an illogical loop in that way.

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Why do you need something to have started it all? It makes sense that there is this void that is just always there, and within this void, on a long enough timeline, universes spark on and off in the same way that at the very bottom level of matter, quantum fluctuations cause matter to pop in and out of existence constantly, like stars.

There's all sorts of potential physical reasons for a universe to pop into existence, without needing to bring sky-daddies into it. Why, one could argue that you yourself have caused the universe to exist, by the act of looking, causing a cascade effect of quantum probability collapses that create a physicalized reality in front of you, and propagates time from the nowness of this moment into the past. That's just as logical as your claim.

Besides, if things need a creator, what created the creator? You get into an illogical loop in that way.


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That illogical loop is the crux of everything we know and will ever know. That crux proves something.
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Re: What do ATHIESTS say caused the BIG BANG?
Something had to create this something. even if the Universe was a vacuum; who created the vacuum for it to blossom in?

Who created the creation we are creating on?

How and why is this simple question with an OBVIOUS answer so trivialized and marginalized?

ISN'T THE QUESTION ALONE PROOF OFF SOMETHING ELSE?
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Why couldn't it just have happened? Why does someone have to be responsible?
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Multiverse is infinite and there was no big bang. In addition its a hologram that Infinite Consciousness envisions the stage for schools in, as Consciousness IS and is Infinite and we as individuals are all infinite parts of God/Infinite Consciousness.

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Electric Universe has no big bang either.

And I AM NOT AN ATHIEST.
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Quantum Theory

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Something had to create this something. even if the Universe was a vacuum; who created the vacuum for it to blossom in?

Who created the creation we are creating on?

How and why is this simple question with an OBVIOUS answer so trivialized and marginalized?

ISN'T THE QUESTION ALONE PROOF OFF SOMETHING ELSE?
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Why couldn't it just have happened? Why does someone have to be responsible?
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Re: What do ATHIESTS say caused the BIG BANG?
Multiverse is infinite and there was no big bang. In addition its a hologram that Infinite Consciousness envisions the stage for schools in, as Consciousness IS and is Infinite and we as individuals are all infinite parts of God/Infinite Consciousness.

[link to phys.org (secure)]

Electric Universe has no big bang either.

And I AM NOT AN ATHIEST.
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...Idiot?
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But the nerve battery stays a secret for anyone?
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Re: What do ATHIESTS say caused the BIG BANG?
The big bang was caused by the pressure from the collapse of the last incarnation of reality into a singularity.
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The big bang was caused by the pressure from the collapse of the last incarnation of reality into a singularity.
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What caused the collapse, tiger?
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The ol something from nothing huh?
"Nothing" is a meaningless statement in terms of the universe. There isn't any evidence the energy in the universe currently hasn't always been there. 2nd law of thermodynamics. The energy eventually coalesced into matter and everything we see today thanks to supernova forming complex molecules that otherwise wouldn't exist.

There is no such thing as "nothing" in the universe. At least we aren't able of creating or observing such a state. It's like the word "perfect". No such thing. Reality is ever evolving.
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"I'll take the stick and you take the wheel" Doesn't work like that.
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Completely f*ck off.
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Re: What do ATHIESTS say caused the BIG BANG?
What caused the "big bang"? The way energy moves in the universe. The "big bang" we mention is one of several (maybe infinite) big bangs. Each resulting in their own universe. Isolated from one another, only detectable currently as dark matter /energy.
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I'll eat your brain.
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Orangutangus.
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It happened when the previous universe, which had died the heat-death eons ago, experienced a phase transition. A high entropy system in its end-state loses its scale and infinitesimally rare and infinitely dense become identical states.

That kicks off the new universe. The seed of our universe was the previous universe.

This is well-established in modern cosmology.
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What is the cause of infinite anything (space, time, factors of math) even if you don't believe in an infinite consciousness?
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Re: What do ATHIESTS say caused the BIG BANG?
Something had to create this something. even if the Universe was a vacuum; who created the vacuum for it to blossom in?

Who created the creation we are creating on?

How and why is this simple question with an OBVIOUS answer so trivialized and marginalized?

ISN'T THE QUESTION ALONE PROOF OFF SOMETHING ELSE?
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"Something had to create this something."

Actually, no. Because anything you can refer to is energy. Either with mass or without, but energy either way. I feel like it's been well established that energy cannot be created or destroyed. Given that assumption EVERYTHING in the universe was ALWAYS here. Constantly changing forms due to entropy and annihilation, but as a whole the universe isn't/wasn't "created". At best you could assert that the universe was manipulated. Creation of something preexisting doesn't make sense. Further, I'm not aware of any compelling evidence with data to support the "manipulation" of the universe by an outside entity. The universe/s is all there is. There is nothing that is not. There is nothing "outside". There's no such thing as "outside" the universe. Something either is, or is not.
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Re: What do ATHIESTS say caused the BIG BANG?
Something had to create this something. even if the Universe was a vacuum; who created the vacuum for it to blossom in?

Who created the creation we are creating on?

How and why is this simple question with an OBVIOUS answer so trivialized and marginalized?

ISN'T THE QUESTION ALONE PROOF OFF SOMETHING ELSE?
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"Something had to create this something."

Actually, no. Because anything you can refer to is energy. Either with mass or without, but energy either way. I feel like it's been well established that energy cannot be created or destroyed. Given that assumption EVERYTHING in the universe was ALWAYS here. Constantly changing forms due to entropy and annihilation, but as a whole the universe isn't/wasn't "created". At best you could assert that the universe was manipulated. Creation of something preexisting doesn't make sense. Further, I'm not aware of any compelling evidence with data to support the "manipulation" of the universe by an outside entity. The universe/s is all there is. There is nothing that is not. There is nothing "outside". There's no such thing as "outside" the universe. Something either is, or is not.
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I get what you are trying to say, but let's not confuse the basic, elementary question that has only 1 obvious answer.
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Re: What do ATHIESTS say caused the BIG BANG?
Something had to create this something. even if the Universe was a vacuum; who created the vacuum for it to blossom in?

Who created the creation we are creating on?

How and why is this simple question with an OBVIOUS answer so trivialized and marginalized?

ISN'T THE QUESTION ALONE PROOF OFF SOMETHING ELSE?
 Quoting: uhhuh


"Something had to create this something."

Actually, no. Because anything you can refer to is energy. Either with mass or without, but energy either way. I feel like it's been well established that energy cannot be created or destroyed. Given that assumption EVERYTHING in the universe was ALWAYS here. Constantly changing forms due to entropy and annihilation, but as a whole the universe isn't/wasn't "created". At best you could assert that the universe was manipulated. Creation of something preexisting doesn't make sense. Further, I'm not aware of any compelling evidence with data to support the "manipulation" of the universe by an outside entity. The universe/s is all there is. There is nothing that is not. There is nothing "outside". There's no such thing as "outside" the universe. Something either is, or is not.
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I get what you are trying to say, but let's not confuse the basic, elementary question that has only 1 obvious answer.
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I missed the "elementary question". You mean "Who created the creation we are creating on?"

Well, like I said if what you're calling "creation" contains energy, it's not possible to have been "created". All the energy in the universe has always been, and has never not been.

If you say "I created this", what you're really saying is "I rearranged energy and now have a new thing". The "thing" was always there, it just hadn't been rearranged yet. You wouldn't have actually "created" matter, just adjusted it.

There was a man who could carve great sculptures out of stone. For years he searched for a special stone. After having found it he spent months working on it. When he showed his friends they said "You've created a great statue!". The artists said "I haven't created anything. The sculpture was always there. I just chipped away the rough edges.....I think that's a quote from a Rambo movie haha.
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Something had to create this something. even if the Universe was a vacuum; who created the vacuum for it to blossom in?

Who created the creation we are creating on?

How and why is this simple question with an OBVIOUS answer so trivialized and marginalized?

ISN'T THE QUESTION ALONE PROOF OFF SOMETHING ELSE?
 Quoting: uhhuh


"Something had to create this something."

Actually, no. Because anything you can refer to is energy. Either with mass or without, but energy either way. I feel like it's been well established that energy cannot be created or destroyed. Given that assumption EVERYTHING in the universe was ALWAYS here. Constantly changing forms due to entropy and annihilation, but as a whole the universe isn't/wasn't "created". At best you could assert that the universe was manipulated. Creation of something preexisting doesn't make sense. Further, I'm not aware of any compelling evidence with data to support the "manipulation" of the universe by an outside entity. The universe/s is all there is. There is nothing that is not. There is nothing "outside". There's no such thing as "outside" the universe. Something either is, or is not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72946100


I get what you are trying to say, but let's not confuse the basic, elementary question that has only 1 obvious answer.
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I missed the "elementary question". You mean "Who created the creation we are creating on?"

Well, like I said if what you're calling "creation" contains energy, it's not possible to have been "created". All the energy in the universe has always been, and has never not been.

If you say "I created this", what you're really saying is "I rearranged energy and now have a new thing". The "thing" was always there, it just hadn't been rearranged yet. You wouldn't have actually "created" matter, just adjusted it.

There was a man who could carve great sculptures out of stone. For years he searched for a special stone. After having found it he spent months working on it. When he showed his friends they said "You've created a great statue!". The artists said "I haven't created anything. The sculpture was always there. I just chipped away the rough edges.....I think that's a quote from a Rambo movie haha.
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Re: What do ATHIESTS say caused the BIG BANG?
Something had to create this something. even if the Universe was a vacuum; who created the vacuum for it to blossom in?

Who created the creation we are creating on?

How and why is this simple question with an OBVIOUS answer so trivialized and marginalized?

ISN'T THE QUESTION ALONE PROOF OFF SOMETHING ELSE?
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You are thinking in linear time which has proven to be wrong!
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Re: What do ATHIESTS say caused the BIG BANG?
I think the more valuable question would be "What do Particle Physicists and Cosmologists say caused the BIG BANG?".





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