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(OP) User ID: 80799661 United States 12/03/2021 11:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the more valuable question would be "What do Particle Physicists and Cosmologists say caused the BIG BANG?". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72946100 Astro Physicist Samuel Ting thinks if the universe truly came from a big bang, in the beginning, if the world came from a big band, there must be an EQUAL amount of anti matter as there is matter, otherwise it would not have come from a vacuum. Where is the world made out of anti-matter? uhhuh |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72946100 United States 12/03/2021 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Something had to create this something. even if the Universe was a vacuum; who created the vacuum for it to blossom in? Quoting: uhhuh Who created the creation we are creating on? How and why is this simple question with an OBVIOUS answer so trivialized and marginalized? ISN'T THE QUESTION ALONE PROOF OFF SOMETHING ELSE? You are thinking in linear time which has proven to be wrong! I wouldn't say linear time has been "proven" wrong. If you have data, I'd appreciate the link. I have seen some compelling evidence supporting the idea though. Holographic universe, where everything that has ever happened, is happening right now, or will ever happen, is happening RIGHT NOW. It's hard to imagine without looking into the details, but the details are interesting. I tend to lean toward the idea that time is not linear, but I haven't seen conclusive data yet. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72946100 United States 12/03/2021 11:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the more valuable question would be "What do Particle Physicists and Cosmologists say caused the BIG BANG?". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72946100 Astro Physicist Samuel Ting thinks if the universe truly came from a big bang, in the beginning, if the world came from a big band, there must be an EQUAL amount of anti matter as there is matter, otherwise it would not have come from a vacuum. Where is the world made out of anti-matter? Isn't that we call dark energy/matter? I think it's more than half of the "stuff" out there that we can detect, but can't see. |
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(OP) User ID: 80799661 United States 12/03/2021 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the more valuable question would be "What do Particle Physicists and Cosmologists say caused the BIG BANG?". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72946100 Astro Physicist Samuel Ting thinks if the universe truly came from a big bang, in the beginning, if the world came from a big band, there must be an EQUAL amount of anti matter as there is matter, otherwise it would not have come from a vacuum. Where is the world made out of anti-matter? Isn't that we call dark energy/matter? I think it's more than half of the "stuff" out there that we can detect, but can't see. So we think. Unclear what his most recent findings indicate. Curious to see ISS reports. uhhuh |
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(OP) User ID: 80799661 United States 12/03/2021 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "if the world came from a big band, there must be an EQUAL amount of anti matter as there is matter" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72946100 I'm not sure I would agree fully. Whos to say there isn't? e=mc2. For this to be true, and for the universe to come from a vacuum, equal and opposite, well, you know the deal. uhhuh |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72946100 United States 12/03/2021 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the more valuable question would be "What do Particle Physicists and Cosmologists say caused the BIG BANG?". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72946100 Astro Physicist Samuel Ting thinks if the universe truly came from a big bang, in the beginning, if the world came from a big band, there must be an EQUAL amount of anti matter as there is matter, otherwise it would not have come from a vacuum. Where is the world made out of anti-matter? Isn't that we call dark energy/matter? I think it's more than half of the "stuff" out there that we can detect, but can't see. So we think. Unclear what his most recent findings indicate. Curious to see ISS reports. Yeah, I'll have to look into the work being done by Samuel Ting. ISS is a great asset in attempting to understand what's true. I heard recently they were able to conduct experiments that previously weren't possible because they require zero gravity. They finally ran the tests, and I very briefly heard that they had some impressive results. I think it had something to do with agriculture. Haven't read it yet. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72946100 United States 12/03/2021 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "if the world came from a big band, there must be an EQUAL amount of anti matter as there is matter" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72946100 I'm not sure I would agree fully. Whos to say there isn't? e=mc2. For this to be true, and for the universe to come from a vacuum, equal and opposite, well, you know the deal. Are there experiments with data that suggest that there isn't an equal amount of matter/antimatter in the universe? A "vacuum" really isn't what we used to think. It turns out a "vacuum", which classical physics refers to as empty space, is actually the largest energy reservoir in the universe, and is where all observable matter and energy come from and go back to. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81399206 United States 12/03/2021 11:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everything humans know about has a beginning and an end. So they make the assumption the universe and especially this planet does as well. Alpha and omega. But there is another way available to define time in science and math, INFINITY. It time is a linear function it would be true that a line must have a beginning and an end. But it isn't. Time is not a straight line, it is a curved "path" that goes on forever and eventually will come back to this same moment in "time". Time is just a way to keep everything form happening at once IN OUR REALITY. The universe has always been. Wrap your mind around the reality that not everything has a beginning and an end and it is easy to resolve. There is NO WAY to explain how *something* came to be in the absence of *anything* in the first place so the only truly logical conclusion is there was no beginning. Or end. Think of a circle. If you follow a circular path you always come back to the same point, and it just goes on forever |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81399206 United States 12/03/2021 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I want to go down to the junkyard adn get a bunch of trash cars, put them in a pile, blow them up and then have the ride of my life. Quoting: tibetbill 79231230 That's how it works, right? The analogy goes like this; "believing the complexity and intricate and practically infinitely complex interrelationships of the universe were formed from an explosion of nothing is no different that believing a tornado can assemble a functional fleet of 757's from an empty junk pile. In fact it is even more asinine. The basic laws of thermodynamics conflict in direct contradiction to the big bang "theory" even being remotely a possibility. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72946100 United States 12/03/2021 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I want to go down to the junkyard adn get a bunch of trash cars, put them in a pile, blow them up and then have the ride of my life. Quoting: tibetbill 79231230 That's how it works, right? The analogy goes like this; "believing the complexity and intricate and practically infinitely complex interrelationships of the universe were formed from an explosion of nothing is no different that believing a tornado can assemble a functional fleet of 757's from an empty junk pile. In fact it is even more asinine. The basic laws of thermodynamics conflict in direct contradiction to the big bang "theory" even being remotely a possibility. " the universe were formed from an explosion of nothing " That statement is incorrect. Have you read the second law of thermodynamics? "Nothing" is fantasy. There is no such thing. If there is, we are unable to observe it, or recreate it in a lab. There is no such thing as "nothing". Like Santa. Or perfection. No such thing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72946100 United States 12/03/2021 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I want to go down to the junkyard adn get a bunch of trash cars, put them in a pile, blow them up and then have the ride of my life. Quoting: tibetbill 79231230 That's how it works, right? The analogy goes like this; "believing the complexity and intricate and practically infinitely complex interrelationships of the universe were formed from an explosion of nothing is no different that believing a tornado can assemble a functional fleet of 757's from an empty junk pile. In fact it is even more asinine. The basic laws of thermodynamics conflict in direct contradiction to the big bang "theory" even being remotely a possibility. I'm sure glad you understand. Now if you can just convince all those particle physicists, cosmologists, and mathematicians they're wasting their time. I'm sure they just haven't thought of the ridiculousness of their endeavor to understand the universe. Probably an oversight you could get a Nobel prize for bringing to the attention of the scientific community. I'd caution you however to be prepared for the peer review. It can be agonizing. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79987635 United States 12/03/2021 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Something had to create this something. even if the Universe was a vacuum; who created the vacuum for it to blossom in? Quoting: uhhuh Who created the creation we are creating on? How and why is this simple question with an OBVIOUS answer so trivialized and marginalized? ISN'T THE QUESTION ALONE PROOF OFF SOMETHING ELSE? Best theory so far is that there are multiple universes that all begin on such a small and powerful level that current physics cannot explain it. The minute and power scales overpower current physics. Almost like kernels of popcorn in a popper. Once the conditions are right, they violently explode into individual popped corn units. |