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StellaBlue
User ID: 81107817 United States 12/04/2021 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are many descriptions of heaven found in the bible, as you already touched upon OP. "Heaven " by Randy Alcorn is the best book I've ever read, aside from the bible. It covers this subject very well, all backed by scripture. Most people have the idea that heaven is boring. You float around on a cloud, strumming a harp, in perpetual church. No thanks! The church has done a terrible job getting people excited about heaven. This is an awesome thread, I'd give it 100 stars if I could. God bless and see you on the other side! It's going to rock! It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man. -Psalm 118:8 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper. -Isaiah 54:17 If I disappear from this forum, aliens didn't take me- Jesus did! Give your heart to him today! |
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(OP) User ID: 80469772 United Kingdom 12/06/2021 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are many descriptions of heaven found in the bible, as you already touched upon OP. Quoting: StellaBlue "Heaven " by Randy Alcorn is the best book I've ever read, aside from the bible. It covers this subject very well, all backed by scripture. Most people have the idea that heaven is boring. You float around on a cloud, strumming a harp, in perpetual church. No thanks! The church has done a terrible job getting people excited about heaven. This is an awesome thread, I'd give it 100 stars if I could. God bless and see you on the other side! It's going to rock! Appreciate you stopping by and commenting. Will have to check that book out, cheers for the tip off :) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78230975 United States 12/06/2021 03:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The final heaven will be the New Jerusalem. 21 Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,”for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4 ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.” |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78131002 United States 12/06/2021 03:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The final heaven will be the New Jerusalem. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78230975 21 Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,”for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4 ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.” You just had to go there. I predict NJR in 3, 2, 1 .......... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75583697 United States 12/06/2021 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus is quoted in the bible as directly saying heaven is something inside of you, not something to be found "out there". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68186499 Well we dont know who wrote the gospels, as it says in footnotes in the bible, how would you know a) Jesus existed and b) the "quote" is correct? If its your belief then no further discussion is needed. You have no evidence of it correct or true. So it's kinda a mute point. Lots of people have faith their holy books are true and there not your holy book. So how do we determine which is true. Let me know, i've been asking for years and never get a decent answer. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75014569 United States 12/06/2021 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are many descriptions of heaven found in the bible, as you already touched upon OP. Quoting: StellaBlue "Heaven " by Randy Alcorn is the best book I've ever read, aside from the bible. It covers this subject very well, all backed by scripture. Most people have the idea that heaven is boring. You float around on a cloud, strumming a harp, in perpetual church. No thanks! The church has done a terrible job getting people excited about heaven. This is an awesome thread, I'd give it 100 stars if I could. God bless and see you on the other side! It's going to rock! there are exactly no descriptions accurate in your bible.. and I have read it all.. not a one. and where is this other side.... if you are backing heaven by scripture.. and I have not ever read or heard of that book.. it will fall short. For scripture totally falls short on heaven and the life eternal. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75014569 United States 12/06/2021 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus is quoted in the bible as directly saying heaven is something inside of you, not something to be found "out there". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68186499 Well we dont know who wrote the gospels, as it says in footnotes in the bible, how would you know a) Jesus existed and b) the "quote" is correct? If its your belief then no further discussion is needed. You have no evidence of it correct or true. So it's kinda a mute point. Lots of people have faith their holy books are true and there not your holy book. So how do we determine which is true. Let me know, i've been asking for years and never get a decent answer. none of them except the Urantia Book which covers the cosmos.. and 1/3 of it covers Jesus. gotta leave for now.. but for most on earth Paradise is a long ways away... I am however from Paradise. which is the at the very center of the entire creation... and Paradise is also in the god particle in the electron. not as a place but a source. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75014569 United States 12/06/2021 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The final heaven will be the New Jerusalem. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78230975 21 Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,”for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4 ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.” nope the New Jerusalem is a space craft. I have been on it in fact. It is the head craft of Ashtar Command.. it is not "heaven'.. Heaven is also INSIDE OF YOU correctly says Jesus in the bible. ASHTAR command evacuates planets at judgement time and such... which are really big doo doo and we are in really big doo doo. I am also a member of Ashtar Command and the command during certain times on certain worlds does huge teaching. The description above.. he will wipe every tear is about entering Havona the central universe. when you reach paradise you are a perfected Son of the Father and I am a perfected son of that Father myself. I am a mighty messenger of originally human origin.. My suit of meat I wear is not.. but I AM and I MA thus I AM THAT IAMIAM a Trinitized Son of God... and as high as I can go... at this a finished product . I am serving Earth under Christ Jesus and others right now... My origin is in this universe Christ Jesus created... I am a specialist in rebellions. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75470404 United States 12/06/2021 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus is quoted in the bible as directly saying heaven is something inside of you, not something to be found "out there". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68186499 It's only ONE thing said about heaven. There's a LOT MORE. Thread: Bible Study - Is The Kingdom of Heaven / Kingdom of God ONLY "Within You"? Jesus ascended to the Father in Heaven. He went UP. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75014569 United States 12/06/2021 09:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus is quoted in the bible as directly saying heaven is something inside of you, not something to be found "out there". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68186499 It's only ONE thing said about heaven. There's a LOT MORE. Thread: Bible Study - Is The Kingdom of Heaven / Kingdom of God ONLY "Within You"? Jesus ascended to the Father in Heaven. He went UP. Jesus was from Paradise to start with. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68175619 Canada 12/06/2021 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: 21Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77072808 12/06/2021 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | dusun vucudun yara bere curuk ve agri icinde surekli bir seyler istiyor ya da sana engel oluyor. oturup hayale bile dalamiyorsun uyumak zor vs vs... oyle enteresanliklar ama kingdom of god icimizdeymis. icinde bulabilecegin tek sey aklini yitirmemek icin teselli fikri sadece. baska da bir sey yok. curumusluge katlanmani saglayacak bir agrikesici. o bile surekli degil. iste bu kadar. |
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Servant-of-the-LORD
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Servant-of-the-LORD
User ID: 75470404 United States 12/06/2021 10:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: 21Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68175619 1. Both Jesus and the Holy Spirit were SENT FROM heaven - NOT from "within" people. 2. Jesus ASCENDED up to heaven - towards the clouds. That wasn't "within" anyone either. Here's some more critical questions of that faulty conclusions / doctrine. 1. So The Father's throne and the seraphim are "inside of us"? 2. Is a new heaven going to happen "INSIDE US" when Christ returns? 3. Is a new earth going to be formed INSIDE US? 4. So the "New Jerusalem" descends "into us" - and NOT "down to earth"? 5. So...when we die we go "into our own selves"????? 6. So Ezekial was taken "inside himself" instead of heaven ABOVE? 7. So the throne and seraphims that Isaiah saw in Chapter 9 were "inside himself"? 8. So the throne and other things John described in Revelation were "inside himself"? 9. How about Enoch? Was everything he described actually "inside himself"? 10. So when God TOOK Enoch - He took him to "inside himself"? 11. So the "paradise" that Paul was taken "UP" to was "inside Himself"? 12. Jesus ASCENDED "into people" - NOT into heaven above??? 13. So "the Father's house" and the "many mansions" that Jesus talks about - are ALL inside of US - where YOU say the kingdom of God exists? 14. So the Father SENT Jesus from "inside ourselves"? 15. So the Father SENDS the Holy Spirit from "inside ourselves"? 16. So when Elijah was taken by the chariot, he was taken to "inside himself"? 17. ALL the souls under the alter in Revelation 6:9 are "inside us"??? 18. So where is the "heaven" that is refered to in the Lord's Prayer? I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |