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A Disastrous Collision Between COVID and HIV May Have Caused the OMICRON Variant

 
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A Disastrous Collision Between COVID and HIV May Have Caused the OMICRON Variant
The South African scientist who was first to alert the world to the existence of the new Omicron COVID-19 variant believes that it likely emerged after running rampant through the body of an unvaccinated HIV-positive person.


In June, a study conducted by De Oliveira and colleagues focused on a single South African HIV patient who kept testing positive for COVID for 216 days — and in that amount of time, scientists detected a total of 13 unique mutations to the virus from her samples.

Continued studies of the patient’s biosamples revealed a total of 30 genetic changes, including some that could affect how well the virus responds to vaccines or treatments.

And now De Oliveira, who alerted the World Health Organization to the existence of the Omicron variant is seeing a similar pattern emerge with this variant.

Further research has suggested that people who have either undetected or uncontrolled HIV could be host to mutations and variants because the virus can survive longer in their bodies due to their suppressed immune systems.



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I ended up editing this thread and using a different source and article to the one that was in the original OP


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The Omicron variant of the virus that causes COVID-19 likely acquired at least one of its mutations by picking up a snippet of genetic material from another virus – possibly one that causes the common cold – present in the same infected cells, according to researchers.


This genetic sequence does not appear in any earlier versions of the coronavirus, called SARS-CoV-2, but is ubiquitous in many other viruses including those that cause the common cold, and also in the human genome, researchers said.


This new mutation could have first occurred in a person infected with both pathogens when a version of SARS-CoV-2 picked up the genetic sequence from the other virus.

The same genetic sequence appears many times in one of the coronaviruses that causes colds in people – known as HCoV-229E – and in the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) that causes AIDS


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yeah that is why it has been in Africa since last june

and has yet to kill a single person.
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Is 'picked up' the right term for something that probably cost a few billion to accomplish?
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The Omicron variant of the virus that causes COVID-19 likely acquired at least one of its mutations by picking up a snippet of genetic material from another virus – possibly one that causes the common cold – present in the same infected cells, according to researchers.


This genetic sequence does not appear in any earlier versions of the coronavirus, called SARS-CoV-2, but is ubiquitous in many other viruses including those that cause the common cold, and also in the human genome, researchers said.


This new mutation could have first occurred in a person infected with both pathogens when a version of SARS-CoV-2 picked up the genetic sequence from the other virus.

The same genetic sequence appears many times in one of the coronaviruses that causes colds in people – known as HCoV-229E – and in the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) that causes AIDS


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Whoa!!!!!!!!!!

This needs looking into. Thanks for the heads up OP!

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Not saying it is true or anything, but South Africa does have the highest rate of HIV on the planet.
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Most people infected with HIV experience a short, flu-like illness that occurs 2-6 weeks after infection. After this, HIV may not cause any symptoms for several years.


The most common symptoms are:

raised temperature (fever)
sore throat
body rash
Other symptoms can include:

tiredness
joint pain
muscle pain
swollen glands


After the initial symptoms disappear, HIV may not cause any further symptoms for many years.



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Ain't nobody falling for no Omnicrom bullshit.
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Most people infected with HIV experience a short, flu-like illness that occurs 2-6 weeks after infection. After this, HIV may not cause any symptoms for several years.


The most common symptoms are:

raised temperature (fever) --- Also an Omicron Symptom
sore throat --- Also an Omicron Symptom
body rash --- Also an Omicron Symptom

Other symptoms can include:

tiredness --- Also an Omicron Symptom
joint pain --- Also an Omicron Symptom
muscle pain --- Also an Omicron Symptom
swollen glands --- ???


After the initial symptoms disappear, HIV may not cause any further symptoms for many years.



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Part of a genetic sequence will not necessarily do anything.

It is for example like if the sentence "I will kill you" was HIV and Covid was "I am Covid". If Covid takes only part of HIV like "I will", then you end up with something like "I am Covid I will" which is no threat.
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Is 'picked up' the right term for something that probably cost a few billion to accomplish?
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The term should be 'added' or 'joined'

As in the lab created Airborne Aids joined the original HiV virus to form the Omicron variant
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Part of a genetic sequence will not necessarily do anything.

It is for example like if the sentence "I will kill you" was HIV and Covid was "I am Covid". If Covid takes only part of HIV like "I will", then you end up with something like "I am Covid I will" which is no threat.
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HIV don't travel like that, by air.
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HIV don't travel like that, by air.
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HIV don't travel like that, by air.
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It does now

Combine the HiV virus with the common cold, mix in a bit of bat blood, and hey presto, Covid 19 tounge
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The Omicron variant of the virus that causes COVID-19 likely acquired at least one of its mutations by picking up a snippet of genetic material from another virus – possibly one that causes the common cold – present in the same infected cells, according to researchers.


This genetic sequence does not appear in any earlier versions of the coronavirus, called SARS-CoV-2, but is ubiquitous in many other viruses including those that cause the common cold, and also in the human genome, researchers said.


This new mutation could have first occurred in a person infected with both pathogens when a version of SARS-CoV-2 picked up the genetic sequence from the other virus.

The same genetic sequence appears many times in one of the coronaviruses that causes colds in people – known as HCoV-229E – and in the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) that causes AIDS


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I fixed it:

"The Omicron variant of the virus that causes COVID-19 likely acquired at least one of its mutations by it being mixed in a snippet of genetic material from another virus – possibly one that causes the common cold – present in the same infected cells, according to researchers.
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The OP has been edited with a new thread title, source and article - "A Disastrous Collision Between COVID and HIV May Have Caused the Omicron Variant".


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A team led by Penny Moore, a virologist at the NICD and the University of the Witwatersrand in Johannesburg, is measuring the ability of neutralizing, or virus-blocking, antibodies triggered by previous infection and vaccination to stop Omicron from infecting cells.

To test this in the laboratory, her team is making ‘pseudovirus’ particles — an engineered version of HIV that uses SARS-CoV-2’s spike protein to infect cells — that match Omicron, which harbours as many as 32 changes to spike.


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Back in July South African researchers suggested that there is “growing evidence that the beta SARS-CoV-2 variant first identified in South Africa is leading to more severe disease in people living with HIV, and that failure to clear SARS-CoV-2 infection in a patient with advanced HIV creates conditions that can lead to evolution of dangerous mutations in SARS-CoV-2.”


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Most people infected with HIV experience a short, flu-like illness that occurs 2-6 weeks after infection. After this, HIV may not cause any symptoms for several years.


The most common symptoms are:

raised temperature (fever)
sore throat
body rash
Other symptoms can include:

tiredness
joint pain
muscle pain
swollen glands


After the initial symptoms disappear, HIV may not cause any further symptoms for many years.



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hesright

I said back in the beginning of the pandemic when the Indian scientists said COVID possibly had HIV inserts; that if it was like airborne HIV, we wouldn't know for four to five years and by the time people figured it out, everyone infected and injected would already be the walking dead.

If it was airborne HIV; in the first three years you would have deaths mostly in the already immune compromised and those with preexisting conditions. Then years 4 to 6 you would see a steady increase in deaths, as it works it's way through the more healthy population. That is when scientists would be able to see it, but it would already be to late. Years 7 to 9 you would see the peak death and then a rapid decline in deaths, as the majority have already died. After that a handful would survive, who would be genetically resistant.

Of course big pharma can always give you one of their HIV drugs to keep it in check, extending the life and compliance of those they want to keep alive.
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Please show any controlled, blinded, scientific trial study whereby an alleged virus was passed by one man to another causing him disease symptoms?
Please show us any purified and isolated virus for that matter that does not involve cancer cells, antibiotics etc ?

Many researchers pinpoint the rise of the so-called virus that supposedly causes aids : a VACCINE TRIAL using two groups of known homosexual men.

Imagine the hoodwinking and lying signs and wonders if that indeed is the cause of aids and instead it was sold as yet another evolved virus ...

These types of alleged science articles promoting this idea that there are Typhoid Marys among us is propaganda to lay down the forced quarantine (imprisoning) of any individual they want removed from society - and they will do it in the name of **for your protection**. They will tell the public that the cause of all these variants are these long term permanently virus infected people that must be removed from the populace. The people who still believe in the sorcery virology will buy it hook line and sinker.

This scam will continue as long as mankind continues to believe THEIR theories of evolution and germs.
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That's the highest level of fear-mongering.
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Not saying it is true or anything, but South Africa does have the highest rate of HIV on the planet.
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That's the highest level of fear-mongering.
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Not sure what's up with OP, but most of the threads they have posted are Omicron free mongering threads.
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That's the highest level of fear-mongering.
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Not sure what's up with OP, but most of the threads they have posted are Omicron free mongering threads.
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It's Matrix' bot.
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That's the highest level of fear-mongering.
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Not sure what's up with OP, but most of the threads they have posted are Omicron free mongering threads.
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Im pretty sure that you are the one who has been bumping all my old threads over the past hour. You just changed your ip.

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