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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80699649 12/04/2021 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think that you go Heaven when you die. The afterlife dimensions don't include Heaven. I reckon that Heaven is a physical above us, literally, not metaphorically. Quoting: Destroy All Evil By Heaven, I don't just mean the Judeo-Christian concept, but am using the word "Heaven" in the sense that it is used in many cultures. Norse Asgard is a physical place above us, whereas Valhalla is in another dimension, it seems to me. In Chinese cosmology, it is called Tiantang. Japan: Takamagahara. And like Norse cosmology, the Japanese believed in a bridge that linked Earth to Heaven. It seems that there was a time when people knew what the Earth-Cosmos consisted of, it's characteristics and functions, it's hierarchy with some sort of King of Kings, "God", Overlord there. It was understood that there was a physical realm above us, beyond the clouds. Of course, NA$$$A came along and blew all that away with ambiguous, contentious film and video footage. The ocean, is of course, level, so the idea that Earth is shaped like a globe and is hurtling through empty space is nonsense and we now have to dial back our perception of reality and life and I think that looking at how ancient people conceived the Human-Earth-Cosmos experience to be is a great place to start in forming a new cosmology of life. Thoughts?. As designed, we are living in and are only able to perceive a very small fraction of the vast whole grand reality. The higher our consciousness, the more of the whole reality we could perceive. In other words, we are already immersed in Heaven, or what some call the other side of the Veil of Forgetfulness that is our true home. Because we came in to this part of reality intentionally being in low consciousness, we are not able to perceive much. Our adventure here is to free will explore, learn, and grow up to greater wisdom and maturity to raise our consciousness and thus be able to perceive more. But only if we want to through free will. It is no coincident that all wise messengers throughout the ages taught us a way of living that raises our consciousness. Being caring and kind are powerful energies, not weaknesses as our ego entrenched society wants us to believe. And as we evolve to higher consciousness, becoming more caring, kind, compassionate, and benevolent, we help assist with bringing light to what was once a dark low consciousness world. What an amazing adventure: The aware coming in to be in human form and being temporary unaware on purpose. Then through many human lifetimes of free will exploring and maturation, we begin to uncover who we truly are and return to being aware again. Only if we wish to do so through free will. I wish I could do words like this |
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(OP) User ID: 80639185 United Kingdom 12/04/2021 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think that you go Heaven when you die. The afterlife dimensions don't include Heaven. I reckon that Heaven is a physical above us, literally, not metaphorically. Quoting: Destroy All Evil By Heaven, I don't just mean the Judeo-Christian concept, but am using the word "Heaven" in the sense that it is used in many cultures. Norse Asgard is a physical place above us, whereas Valhalla is in another dimension, it seems to me. In Chinese cosmology, it is called Tiantang. Japan: Takamagahara. And like Norse cosmology, the Japanese believed in a bridge that linked Earth to Heaven. It seems that there was a time when people knew what the Earth-Cosmos consisted of, it's characteristics and functions, it's hierarchy with some sort of King of Kings, "God", Overlord there. It was understood that there was a physical realm above us, beyond the clouds. Of course, NA$$$A came along and blew all that away with ambiguous, contentious film and video footage. The ocean, is of course, level, so the idea that Earth is shaped like a globe and is hurtling through empty space is nonsense and we now have to dial back our perception of reality and life and I think that looking at how ancient people conceived the Human-Earth-Cosmos experience to be is a great place to start in forming a new cosmology of life. Thoughts?. As designed, we are living in and are only able to perceive a very small fraction of the vast whole grand reality. The higher our consciousness, the more of the whole reality we could perceive. In other words, we are already immersed in Heaven, or what some call the other side of the Veil of Forgetfulness that is our true home. Because we came in to this part of reality intentionally being in low consciousness, we are not able to perceive much. Our adventure here is to free will explore, learn, and grow up to greater wisdom and maturity to raise our consciousness and thus be able to perceive more. But only if we want to through free will. It is no coincident that all wise messengers throughout the ages taught us a way of living that raises our consciousness. Being caring and kind are powerful energies, not weaknesses as our ego entrenched society wants us to believe. And as we evolve to higher consciousness, becoming more caring, kind, compassionate, and benevolent, we help assist with bringing light to what was once a dark low consciousness world. What an amazing adventure: The aware coming in to be in human form and being temporary unaware on purpose. Then through many human lifetimes of free will exploring and maturation, we begin to uncover who we truly are and return to being aware again. Only if we wish to do so through free will. I wish I could do words like this Just share your thoughts, my friend! Destroy All Evil |
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User ID: 81426440 United States 12/04/2021 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Earth is in the physical realm. Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD Heaven is in the spiritual realm. Thread: Bible Study - Is The Kingdom of Heaven / Kingdom of God ONLY "Within You"? The thing with that is that men like Ezekial and Enoch did not die when the ascended to Heaven. Ezekial returned to Earth of course, Enoch didn't and is presumably still alive in Heaven. I mean, "spiritual realm"... what does that mean exactly? Spirit is the breath, the in-spir-ation of God. Aether coming down from Heaven to Earth? Tricky subject. Yet did Exekial, Enoch and others go to heaven in their physical human bodies? NOPE. They were "in the spirit" - just like John was in Revelation. Thread: Does Enoch Explain the Jesus / Thief "Paradise" & the "Lazarus / Rich Man" Places? Last Edited by Servant-of-the-LORD on 12/04/2021 01:13 PM I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 81052981 United States 12/04/2021 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Heaven is what the ancients called the planes above us. Depending on the complexity of their cosmology/religious cosmology, they broke it down multiple levels. The higher up / higher tiers of heaven are more subtle. The highest of heaven is the abode of the creator / kingdom The center where nothing exists is the abode of the creator |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70170111 United States 12/04/2021 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think that you go Heaven when you die. The afterlife dimensions don't include Heaven. I reckon that Heaven is a physical above us, literally, not metaphorically. Quoting: Destroy All Evil By Heaven, I don't just mean the Judeo-Christian concept, but am using the word "Heaven" in the sense that it is used in many cultures. Norse Asgard is a physical place above us, whereas Valhalla is in another dimension, it seems to me. In Chinese cosmology, it is called Tiantang. Japan: Takamagahara. And like Norse cosmology, the Japanese believed in a bridge that linked Earth to Heaven. It seems that there was a time when people knew what the Earth-Cosmos consisted of, it's characteristics and functions, it's hierarchy with some sort of King of Kings, "God", Overlord there. It was understood that there was a physical realm above us, beyond the clouds. Of course, NA$$$A came along and blew all that away with ambiguous, contentious film and video footage. The ocean, is of course, level, so the idea that Earth is shaped like a globe and is hurtling through empty space is nonsense and we now have to dial back our perception of reality and life and I think that looking at how ancient people conceived the Human-Earth-Cosmos experience to be is a great place to start in forming a new cosmology of life. Thoughts?. Since you started with a bunch of assumptions that most of the world finds ridiculous - there cannot be intelligent discussion. Your introduction clearly precludes that. |
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User ID: 74119913 United States 12/04/2021 05:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Life and death are opposites, right? Like on or off! The Bible states that when you die you are conscience of nothing... asleep in death. How can you go anywhere if you no longer exist except in the creators memory. None so blind as those who refuse to see |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69401735 United States 12/04/2021 06:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do not look here and do not look there for the kingdom of God. The kingdom of God is within you. God is not hiding from you, why would he do such a thing. You on the other hand refuse to allow your self to realize your birth right. Freedom is closer than the nose on your face. You have the power to know what your perception is appearing to, if this is seen your world is forever changed. |
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(OP) User ID: 80639185 United Kingdom 12/04/2021 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Timothy Albariño has some very interesting things to say about Heaven being a physical place. I’ve heard him basically say there is no spiritual realm- it’s all physical. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78554343 Look him up. He’s pretty great. Oh that's interesting to hear! Thanks, brother! Destroy All Evil |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79499150 United States 12/04/2021 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes it is. The earth is not in space. Think of it as a giant snow globe with a level plane and of course elevations like a clay seal stamped. Above the snow globe which is made of a self healing self sealing crystal structure is a vast amount of water higher than the ground to sky. Above that water is a level crystal structure which is the beginning of heaven. The floor room of heaven |
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(OP) User ID: 80639185 United Kingdom 12/04/2021 06:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Timothy Albariño has some very interesting things to say about Heaven being a physical place. I’ve heard him basically say there is no spiritual realm- it’s all physical. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78554343 Look him up. He’s pretty great. Oh that's interesting to hear! Thanks, brother! Here's that channel. Seems his "Birthright Series" is the place to start? Here it is: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Destroy All Evil |
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(OP) User ID: 80639185 United Kingdom 12/04/2021 06:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes it is. The earth is not in space. Think of it as a giant snow globe with a level plane and of course elevations like a clay seal stamped. Above the snow globe which is made of a self healing self sealing crystal structure is a vast amount of water higher than the ground to sky. Above that water is a level crystal structure which is the beginning of heaven. The floor room of heaven Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79499150 Right, okay. Never heard it put like that, but that's what I think, too. I myself think that most rain comes from the waters above and not just from accumulated clouds. I think that we get a dumbed-down version of how rain works. I reckon that the ocean water is channelled up to the waters above. Speculation on my part. I think that the Earth is a massive piece of ultra-technology like an aquarium-terrarium-university-plantation, etc. Destroy All Evil |
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(OP) User ID: 80639185 United Kingdom 12/04/2021 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do not look here and do not look there for the kingdom of God. The kingdom of God is within you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69401735 God is not hiding from you, why would he do such a thing. You on the other hand refuse to allow your self to realize your birth right. Freedom is closer than the nose on your face. You have the power to know what your perception is appearing to, if this is seen your world is forever changed. Right. This is true, but I'm just focusing on the physical set-up, the characteristics of what the Earth-Cosmos system really is. There's a physical world above the clouds and worlds beyond that, but not like NA$$$A has had us buy into for 60 years. It's a zillion times more amazing than their nihilistic claptrap! Destroy All Evil |
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(OP) User ID: 80639185 United Kingdom 12/04/2021 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Heaven is at the ever expanding edge of the Universe. Think about it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79943057 Again, combining religion with NA$$$A nonsense will lead to a ball of confusion, a globe of confusion. I get why people look to modern science, modern astronomy, NASA, etc for answers but those guys are all out to sea, the LEVEL sea. They led each other down the garden path for 500 years and dragged us with them in the past 60 years and now look how confused most people are. Destroy All Evil |
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