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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69401735 United States 12/04/2021 08:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your physical body obviously does not go to heaven so heaven is not a physical place. Can a non physical place exist? Quoting: Slick Dickman OK you have used logic to get this far. Now go back a little bit, when you are looking at the physical world around you it is first and foremost a perception to and in your consciousness. This can be self evident to an open mind. Once it is seen that the physical world is really just a perception the next logical conclusion is that our physical world is made out of consciousness. So it can be manipulated what we would call a super natural way. |
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User ID: 81270554 United States 12/04/2021 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think that you go Heaven when you die. The afterlife dimensions don't include Heaven. I reckon that Heaven is a physical above us, literally, not metaphorically. Quoting: Destroy All Evil Earth is in the physical realm. Heaven is in the spiritual realm. Thread: Bible Study - Is The Kingdom of Heaven / Kingdom of God ONLY "Within You"? Yes, Heaven is in the Spiritual Realm--while we are living, and likely while we are dying and afterward. Perhaps it is also the entire universe that we can traverse and visit as incarnate conciousness. _______________ They let me off with a warning and a couple of bullet holes. |
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User ID: 79139945 Canada 12/05/2021 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are 3, mortal people live on earth for 120 years, immortal people can travel to all parts of the universe in the 400B years they are there. Mount Sion from Hebrews:12 is the 3rd heaven. The ones living in New Jerusalem are the first people to move there. The 4 Beasts around the Throne in the Re:4 temple give them in marriage and become their guides as they have a perfected child, then each couple speaks something like Ge:1 into existence as an inheritance for their child. Christ fell in love with Mary of Bethany, it takes her the 400BY to become perfected enough to have a child that will be born as perfected as Christ was when He was born to God and the Holy Spirit. There is no limit on time in 'the City of God', as time goes on all flesh alive on the new earth will make that transition. The 'other flesh' has these beasts as being who they were modelled after; Re:4:6-9: And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind. And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle. And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come. And when those beasts give glory and honour and thanks to him that sat on the throne, who liveth for ever and ever, Fallen angels come back from the lake at the same time the first people enter Mount Sion. Both are perfected so they could be given in marriage to each other and their child would be born perfected. Angels saw God and the Holy Spirit build the universe so they can do the same, the people in New Jerusalem are experts at 'the Law' so they are how the system never breaks and falls into sin. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75915608 United States 12/05/2021 02:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Timothy Albariño has some very interesting things to say about Heaven being a physical place. I’ve heard him basically say there is no spiritual realm- it’s all physical. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78554343 Look him up. He’s pretty great. If that's the case you can find heaven on a map and you can go there. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77482022 United States 12/05/2021 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think that you go Heaven when you die. The afterlife dimensions don't include Heaven. I reckon that Heaven is a physical above us, literally, not metaphorically. Quoting: Destroy All Evil By Heaven, I don't just mean the Judeo-Christian concept, but am using the word "Heaven" in the sense that it is used in many cultures. Norse Asgard is a physical place above us, whereas Valhalla is in another dimension, it seems to me. In Chinese cosmology, it is called Tiantang. Japan: Takamagahara. And like Norse cosmology, the Japanese believed in a bridge that linked Earth to Heaven. It seems that there was a time when people knew what the Earth-Cosmos consisted of, it's characteristics and functions, it's hierarchy with some sort of King of Kings, "God", Overlord there. It was understood that there was a physical realm above us, beyond the clouds. Of course, NA$$$A came along and blew all that away with ambiguous, contentious film and video footage. The ocean, is of course, level, so the idea that Earth is shaped like a globe and is hurtling through empty space is nonsense and we now have to dial back our perception of reality and life and I think that looking at how ancient people conceived the Human-Earth-Cosmos experience to be is a great place to start in forming a new cosmology of life. Thoughts?. The Great City Babylon is ABOVE us. The Angels told me, "there is nothing above you but fire, everything you want is below you" This was before I was taken into the Midst of the Earth where the real Heaven is and God and the immortal humans. However, I was taken by force to the realm above, and I can assure you, there is NOTHING you want there. It was horrific. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 81441795 Canada 12/05/2021 05:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think that you go Heaven when you die. The afterlife dimensions don't include Heaven. I reckon that Heaven is a physical above us, literally, not metaphorically. Quoting: Destroy All Evil By Heaven, I don't just mean the Judeo-Christian concept, but am using the word "Heaven" in the sense that it is used in many cultures. Norse Asgard is a physical place above us, whereas Valhalla is in another dimension, it seems to me. In Chinese cosmology, it is called Tiantang. Japan: Takamagahara. And like Norse cosmology, the Japanese believed in a bridge that linked Earth to Heaven. It seems that there was a time when people knew what the Earth-Cosmos consisted of, it's characteristics and functions, it's hierarchy with some sort of King of Kings, "God", Overlord there. It was understood that there was a physical realm above us, beyond the clouds. Of course, NA$$$A came along and blew all that away with ambiguous, contentious film and video footage. The ocean, is of course, level, so the idea that Earth is shaped like a globe and is hurtling through empty space is nonsense and we now have to dial back our perception of reality and life and I think that looking at how ancient people conceived the Human-Earth-Cosmos experience to be is a great place to start in forming a new cosmology of life. Thoughts?. Good post. All will be revealed very soon... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11811560 Spain 12/05/2021 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And this: [link to cdnb.artstation.com (secure)] I believe they're places in Earth. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76946058 United States 12/05/2021 10:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think that you go Heaven when you die. The afterlife dimensions don't include Heaven. I reckon that Heaven is a physical above us, literally, not metaphorically. Quoting: Destroy All Evil By Heaven, I don't just mean the Judeo-Christian concept, but am using the word "Heaven" in the sense that it is used in many cultures. Norse Asgard is a physical place above us, whereas Valhalla is in another dimension, it seems to me. In Chinese cosmology, it is called Tiantang. Japan: Takamagahara. And like Norse cosmology, the Japanese believed in a bridge that linked Earth to Heaven. It seems that there was a time when people knew what the Earth-Cosmos consisted of, it's characteristics and functions, it's hierarchy with some sort of King of Kings, "God", Overlord there. It was understood that there was a physical realm above us, beyond the clouds. Of course, NA$$$A came along and blew all that away with ambiguous, contentious film and video footage. The ocean, is of course, level, so the idea that Earth is shaped like a globe and is hurtling through empty space is nonsense and we now have to dial back our perception of reality and life and I think that looking at how ancient people conceived the Human-Earth-Cosmos experience to be is a great place to start in forming a new cosmology of life. Thoughts?. From the bible perspective, it's all about "Sacred Space" think of it as a place where God and man can coexist. So, like the Garden before humans decided to define good and evil on thier own terms and got kicked out. OT tabernacles and Temples were all about creating "Sacred Space" on earth in a very limited fashon. All kinds of purity rules to make it work. Jesus represented the return of the "Kingdome" which is another term for "Sacred Space" So in essence Jesus embodied that sacred space and it traveld with him everywhere he went. When he died and rose again, he made that sacred space available to use humans if we choose to follow him. We then become image barriers of that sacred space "God's Image". Yawahe's goal is to return/retore the earth back to the sacred space of it's creation but use humans to do the conversion as much as they can. I think heaven is a restored "Sacred space" where Humans can be fruitful and multiple as God had intended in the first place. But it's also a place He can walk, so it's Holy. IS it this earth? Who knows. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75014569 United States 12/06/2021 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it is not layers in the sky or space. there are billions and billions of worlds of heaven. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75014569 United States 12/06/2021 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is in a different dimension. Quoting: Triteia Think of an onion. How it has layers. That is the shape. Per Near Death Experience. “Heaven” or The Kingdom of God is on a different planet. Like chocolate cake, it has layers... no heaven is in the same space we all are.. except for inside of of the central universe and Havona as one billion worlds in it. |
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