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User ID: 79141158 12/05/2021 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DailyMail: "Heart attack patients are dying because medics can't put on full PPE in time to resuscitate them, say doctors at a leading healt PPE means Personal Protective Equipement. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78404244 Since stupid useless fuck OP didn’t explain. Every GLP'er knows what PPE is...... I remember it was a big deal back in the early days of the pandemic, especially when Cuomo was sending covid patients to nursing homes. The workers said they were not supplied with enough PPE and even if they had some of it, they weren't trained in using it properly as nursing homes aren't ICUs. Cuomo only sent extra body bags with every new covid patient. Last Edited by Arlie27 on 12/05/2021 01:07 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80851617 United States 12/05/2021 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DailyMail: "Heart attack patients are dying because medics can't put on full PPE in time to resuscitate them, say doctors at a leading healt Improving the collection of birth and death data worldwide Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80862965 Published by Ajisebutu Doyinsola Researchers have identified and implemented the key interventions and tools that countries can – and should – use to improve the quality and availability of critical birth and death data and ultimately, improve health outcomes. BINGO WAS HIS NAME |
Satanic Creatures User ID: 27546556 United States 12/05/2021 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DailyMail: "Heart attack patients are dying because medics can't put on full PPE in time to resuscitate them, say doctors at a leading healt [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)] Quoting: dr0id [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] [link to imgur.com (secure)] [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)] I’ve been saying this for a while now. Folks, we are on our fucking own now. Do NOT expect anything to work right as it always has, as the Satanic creatures “in charge” have sabotaged our functional society so badly that we cannot expect ANYTHING to work properly anymore. |
Syncorswim
User ID: 81201990 United States 12/05/2021 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DailyMail: "Heart attack patients are dying because medics can't put on full PPE in time to resuscitate them, say doctors at a leading healt I have come to the conclusion that most physicians are brainwashed, egotistical, greedy, narcissistic, POS cowards that are void of both logic and reason. Prove me wrong. |
beeches
User ID: 78973486 United States 12/05/2021 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DailyMail: "Heart attack patients are dying because medics can't put on full PPE in time to resuscitate them, say doctors at a leading healt So far we have: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80470305 The cold weather is causing heart attacks. Vaccine stress is causing heart attacks. Now people are dying of heart attacks because of PPE. Yeah. Nobody believes this shit anymore. Oh, some do, for sure. I'll tell you who. People who have lost a loved one, who were also vaxxed themselves, urged the family to get vaxxed - etc etc etc those poor souls WANT to believe it's cold weather, slow PPE setup, outside stressors, WHATEVER just NOT the fact that the vaxx did it. ANYTHING but that. Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
spamdyspam
User ID: 77882013 Canada 12/05/2021 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DailyMail: "Heart attack patients are dying because medics can't put on full PPE in time to resuscitate them, say doctors at a leading healt So far we have: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80470305 The cold weather is causing heart attacks. Vaccine stress is causing heart attacks. Now people are dying of heart attacks because of PPE. Yeah. Nobody believes this shit anymore. and cannabis in the young and eating unhealthy during lockdowns and just coincidence that professional soccer players are dropping like flies spamdyspam |
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zzbudzz
User ID: 80640363 United States 12/05/2021 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DailyMail: "Heart attack patients are dying because medics can't put on full PPE in time to resuscitate them, say doctors at a leading healt [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)] Quoting: dr0id https://imgur.com/GuZgDNP [link to imgur.com (secure)] [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)] So, no mention of why heart attacks are happening on a massive scale . It's the Medics fault for being too slow to put on PPE. Banned often |
Cap’n Obvious
User ID: 78963999 United States 12/05/2021 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DailyMail: "Heart attack patients are dying because medics can't put on full PPE in time to resuscitate them, say doctors at a leading healt So far we have: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80470305 The cold weather is causing heart attacks. Vaccine stress is causing heart attacks. Now people are dying of heart attacks because of PPE. Yeah. Nobody believes this shit anymore. That about sums it up…. Have a nice day = GFY. GFY = Go Fuck Yourself. If this offends you then have a nice day. |
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platzee
User ID: 76538581 United States 12/05/2021 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DailyMail: "Heart attack patients are dying because medics can't put on full PPE in time to resuscitate them, say doctors at a leading healt 28 year Paramedic here. Quoting: platzee Not using full ppe on every call…just possible covid cases. Full ppe prior to answering the call delays the response by at least 5 minutes at my department. If I had a choice I wouldn’t even don the full ppe ….I feel like it would be a nothing burger for me. There are very sick people out here though….but no one is asking the critical thinking questions….why are these people sick in the middle of July. This winter seems like it’ll be tough. Peace Let me sum up your input: Safety measures for Covid alone have probably caused as many deaths as Covid itself. 5 minutes or more off the golden hour is significant. Absolutely right Jungle. There are times when a call for emergency service is made when an arrest is eminent. Chances of successful resuscitation in the presence of well trained advanced pre-hospital providers is higher by a long shot. Five minutes in that scenario is “the” difference based on my experiences. |
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Ntg567
User ID: 71008001 United States 12/05/2021 03:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DailyMail: "Heart attack patients are dying because medics can't put on full PPE in time to resuscitate them, say doctors at a leading healt Ya total BS, standard PPE for responding to a call is a mask and gloves here in AZ. I’ll have mine on before even getting out of the vehicle. What a crock of shit. Last Edited by Ntg567 on 12/05/2021 03:11 PM Trust no one, question everything “Individuality is a problem for the party” N |
TakeTheHeadOffTheShrimp
User ID: 58265442 United States 12/05/2021 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DailyMail: "Heart attack patients are dying because medics can't put on full PPE in time to resuscitate them, say doctors at a leading healt So far we have: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80470305 The cold weather is causing heart attacks. Vaccine stress is causing heart attacks. Now people are dying of heart attacks because of PPE. Yeah. Nobody believes this shit anymore. You forgot marijuana. Marijuana was causing kids to die of heart attacks. Remember? |
Ntg567
User ID: 71008001 United States 12/05/2021 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DailyMail: "Heart attack patients are dying because medics can't put on full PPE in time to resuscitate them, say doctors at a leading healt Last Edited by Ntg567 on 12/05/2021 03:11 PM Trust no one, question everything “Individuality is a problem for the party” N |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80921989 Bosnia and Herzegovina 12/05/2021 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DailyMail: "Heart attack patients are dying because medics can't put on full PPE in time to resuscitate them, say doctors at a leading healt PPE means Personal Protective Equipement. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78404244 Since stupid useless fuck OP didn’t explain. Every GLP'er knows what PPE is...... I remember it was a big deal back in the early days of the pandemic, especially when Cuomo was sending covid patients to nursing homes. The workers said they were not supplied with enough PPE and even if they had some of it, they weren't trained in using it properly as nursing homes aren't ICUs. Cuomo only sent extra body bags with every new covid patient. I remember in that same time frame, watching a video of a news team doing a breaking news story in a supposed 'Covid ward.' The 'anchorman' was interviewing an 'infectious disease specialist' a few other 'medical personnel,' and a 'covid patient,' all wearing mega PPE. It looked like an end of the world flick. Another person in the space panned the room with a regular cell phone, and caught some regular Dude (production assistant, I think) just sitting there, arms folded, looking off into the distance. No mask, no gloves, nothing. He looked like he was waiting for the next shuttle to arrive at Disney world, while everyone else was putting on an over the top production. It was so ridiculous. That's when I knew this was all BULLSHIT. |
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User ID: 80959736 12/05/2021 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DailyMail: "Heart attack patients are dying because medics can't put on full PPE in time to resuscitate them, say doctors at a leading healt Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: |
roguetechie81
User ID: 79785318 United States 12/05/2021 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DailyMail: "Heart attack patients are dying because medics can't put on full PPE in time to resuscitate them, say doctors at a leading healt 28 year Paramedic here. Quoting: platzee Not using full ppe on every call…just possible covid cases. Full ppe prior to answering the call delays the response by at least 5 minutes at my department. If I had a choice I wouldn’t even don the full ppe ….I feel like it would be a nothing burger for me. There are very sick people out here though….but no one is asking the critical thinking questions….why are these people sick in the middle of July. This winter seems like it’ll be tough. Peace Does full PPE include a PAPR powered respirator? roguetechie |
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Blackshuck
User ID: 81406324 United Kingdom 12/05/2021 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DailyMail: "Heart attack patients are dying because medics can't put on full PPE in time to resuscitate them, say doctors at a leading healt [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)] Quoting: dr0id https://imgur.com/GuZgDNP [link to imgur.com (secure)] [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)] See now I think that is crap..people are having heart attacks out there in the community not just in hospital settings. You have minutes to get CPR going..minutes the golden time.after that you can pound on the chest as long as you are capable of, it will make no difference..Will just need the Dr to certify death.. So.are these medics so scared shitless they may get a dose, or so brainwashed they have to follow protocol...or do not give a shit..or payed to not give a shit...or are they seeing people dropping likes flies and just cannot cope with the numbers. Lot of people getting ill about me and been to a few funerals of late.. |
ParamedicUK
User ID: 81423760 United Kingdom 12/05/2021 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DailyMail: "Heart attack patients are dying because medics can't put on full PPE in time to resuscitate them, say doctors at a leading healt So. We use level 2 PPE for all normal patients - mask, gloves and aprons. For cardiac/respiratory arrests we use level 3 PPE as we will use airway management. That’s suits, double gloves and head sets connects to a respirator. Level 3 takes a while to put on so any normal crew would send in the first person with level 2 so you can start CPR and attach a defib and the others would attend when dressed fully. I don’t think any time is actually lost in reality. Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way…… Peace not War. |
CigarTigher
User ID: 78011555 12/05/2021 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DailyMail: "Heart attack patients are dying because medics can't put on full PPE in time to resuscitate them, say doctors at a leading healt I remember dispatch not sending an ambulance to a code because they lady had Covid… she was only in her 50s. Granted, the nearest truck was 15 minutes away . They sent a supervisor and the supervisor disregard the ambulance. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80924206 United Kingdom 12/05/2021 04:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DailyMail: "Heart attack patients are dying because medics can't put on full PPE in time to resuscitate them, say doctors at a leading healt People in the UK are at last waking up to the fact that their National Health Service is no longer fit for purpose and a massive drain on the tax payer. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81421326 Local GP services are becoming overtly rationed under the guise of Covid19, hospitals accident and emergency rooms and ambulance service are being overloaded with foreigners as scheduled appointments and testing closed down due to staff absence and ward shut-downs. Now they have to start blaming vax side effects, stress related illnesses, deaths and sudden mass chronic illnesses as virus causation and virus related, rather than government incompetence and corruption. They are now warning that it is going to be another 5 years before we return to a (new) "normal life". All for a virus that mainly kills old folk, an unlucky few and those with pre-existing medical conditions (many who were kept alive by extensive and expensive health care that was at one time rather more available). Very well said. An excellent summation. In fact, currently, I'm doing some research on NHS and associated performance. (For publication at some point). I've been speaking with elected members (councillors),medical people and social workers. The councillors and social workers tell me that (on condition of anonymity) the whole system is a complete mess. There is no ambulance service outside cities. No support for vulnerable people. Almost impossible to get GP appts (they seem to be in hiding). All the professionals I've listened to are, however they say it, sure that it's due to incompetence and bad management. (Often, it's something like 'it's all gone to shit') Each adult taxpayer contributes about £750 annually to the NHS. On average, the whole cost of healthcare works out to about £3000 per person per year (including the tax contribution. So the gvt actually chips in FAR less than comparable EU countries). [link to www.ons.gov.uk (secure)] UK NHS spending is £2000+ LESS per person per year than in comparable EU countries, France and Germany. (UK spending is in the same group as Slovenia, Italy, Poland, Latvia, Estonia.) In the G7 nations, the UK is the second lowest healthcare spender, only Italy spends less. Worse still, the UK has been decreasing its spending year on year. So the NHS is NOT expensive. Instead, it's mis-spending what little it has on such as trendy frolics that should be dealt with through private healthcare (I leave you to determine what they are - your guess is probably correct), a vast increase in 'non-taxpayers', legal defence against all the many patients who have been iatrogenically injured (that is, incompetence and negligence due to lack of adequate staff, resources and training, low staff morale), a large, over-blown management system, over-payments to favoured suppliers, and gvt ministers's whims - and god knows what other idiocies. The law of diminishing returns is certainly at work here. the less gvts pay for healthcare, the more problems patients end up with and which necessitate much more attention further down the line. Although I'm in the vulnerable group (and have had no medical attention for over 2 years), I agree that the gvt and its abysmal 'experts' have made a massive mess of dealing with Covid. That's what's going to take 5-10 years to sort out. |
Blackshuck
User ID: 81406324 United Kingdom 12/05/2021 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DailyMail: "Heart attack patients are dying because medics can't put on full PPE in time to resuscitate them, say doctors at a leading healt [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)] Quoting: dr0id https://imgur.com/GuZgDNP [link to imgur.com (secure)] [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)] See now I think that is crap..people are having heart attacks out there in the community not just in hospital settings. You have minutes to get CPR going..minutes the golden time.after that you can pound on the chest as long as you are capable of, it will make no difference..Will just need the Dr to certify death.. So.are these medics so scared shitless they may get a dose, or so brainwashed they have to follow protocol...or do not give a shit..or payed to not give a shit...or are they seeing people dropping likes flies and just cannot cope with the numbers. Lot of people getting ill about me and been to a few funerals of late.. Just some info. [link to www.verywellhealth.com (secure)] |
Blackshuck
User ID: 81406324 United Kingdom 12/05/2021 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: DailyMail: "Heart attack patients are dying because medics can't put on full PPE in time to resuscitate them, say doctors at a leading healt [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)] Quoting: dr0id https://imgur.com/GuZgDNP [link to imgur.com (secure)] [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)] See now I think that is crap..people are having heart attacks out there in the community not just in hospital settings. You have minutes to get CPR going..minutes the golden time.after that you can pound on the chest as long as you are capable of, it will make no difference..Will just need the Dr to certify death.. So.are these medics so scared shitless they may get a dose, or so brainwashed they have to follow protocol...or do not give a shit..or payed to not give a shit...or are they seeing people dropping likes flies and just cannot cope with the numbers. Lot of people getting ill about me and been to a few funerals of late.. Just some info. [link to www.verywellhealth.com (secure)] |