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ceo laid of people and gave himself a bonus,

that is how this chitt works
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CEOs don't give themselves bonuses the board of directors does.
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Been through this 3 times during my career and saw it at each company. I will tell you that it severely hampers morale and productivity for the people still working there. First thing that goes through your mind is "well no raises or bonuses this year". Then that mindset just travels everywhere until you have a workforce that just does the bare minimum. Kinda like the last days of Communist Russia.

"So long as the bosses pretend to pay us, we will pretend to work."
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Been through this 3 times during my career and saw it at each company. I will tell you that it severely hampers morale and productivity for the people still working there. First thing that goes through your mind is "well no raises or bonuses this year". Then that mindset just travels everywhere until you have a workforce that just does the bare minimum. Kinda like the last days of Communist Russia.

"So long as the bosses pretend to pay us, we will pretend to work."
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It is great to be laid off first, they all get severance in the United States. If you wait until the company closes, you get sh*t.
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This is the z!0 world your living in.
It’s all a facade with no real monetary value, yet Forbes puts out misleading information because it’s all insiders giving each other reach arounds and leading you all astray. Once the shell, front company has been given the huge loan, they just dump it, take the money and disappear.

Your capitalist system is just bank sponsored usury.
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Tulip Craze. Just like the 1999-2001 period of ridiculous tech startup valuations, VC's and executives cash out then crash the companies into the ground. "Unicorns" that have $20B+ valuations but bleed cash every quarter... crazy stuff.
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hesright
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... and ... he didn't count on the bad PR doing it in this manner would bring?

Guy should be fired immediately.
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... and ... he didn't count on the bad PR doing it in this manner would bring?

Guy should be fired immediately.
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He's from Indian, they don't get it. He just thought it will be a great idea and efficient to just do it all at once.
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Looks like they closed a call center in India.

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... and ... he didn't count on the bad PR doing it in this manner would bring?

Guy should be fired immediately.
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He's from Indian, they don't get it. He just thought it will be a great idea and efficient to just do it all at once.
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The way Indians motivate other Indians

is by threatening to cancel their H1B visa.


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India or the Philippines
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Another amazing Indian tech CEO...
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Two things come to mind here. It has happened before. The CEO said he cried last time he did it -- so no lesson's learned. And he is a user, not a creator. I would bet this guy forced his people to get vaxx'd.

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I thought the CEO was very generous with the severance pay and 3 month of health insurance. When my former employer laid off in 2008, nobody got anything!
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Poo in the loo.
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Did you mean streets?

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Better.com, a digital mortgage lender with offices in Oakland,
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Give them credit for at least not being in a region where a lot of sociopathic US-hating liberals happen to reside.

Better.com might consider relocating their head offices to Beijing, China.
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I thought the CEO was very generous with the severance pay and 3 month of health insurance. When my former employer laid off in 2008, nobody got anything!
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This, a company is a business and it’s always looking to maximise profit, 3 months worth of benefits to keep you going till you find another job sounds good, I’ve been laid many times in my life working in construction and I got zero money and zero benefits, guy sounded genuine and the package he offered was generous, be thankful your American with at least some safeguards because I bet the Indian workers got nothing .
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I thought the CEO was very generous with the severance pay and 3 month of health insurance. When my former employer laid off in 2008, nobody got anything!
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he just got handed $750 million.

what's wrong with this picture?

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"He accused "at least 250" terminated staff members of stealing from the company by working just two hours a day, Fortune first reported.

"You guys know that at least 250 of the people terminated were working an average of 2 hours a day while clocking in 8 hours+ a day in the payroll system?"
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... and ... he didn't count on the bad PR doing it in this manner would bring?

Guy should be fired immediately.
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Lazy sacks of shit probably haven't been back to the office since March 2020.
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I thought the CEO was very generous with the severance pay and 3 month of health insurance. When my former employer laid off in 2008, nobody got anything!
 Quoting: FightForGod!


he just got handed $750 million.

what's wrong with this picture?

[link to www.msn.com (secure)]

"He accused "at least 250" terminated staff members of stealing from the company by working just two hours a day, Fortune first reported.

"You guys know that at least 250 of the people terminated were working an average of 2 hours a day while clocking in 8 hours+ a day in the payroll system?"
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Welcome to remote work. If those people got their 8 hours of work done in 2 hours. Good for them! They are productive

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It's a Tech start-up, part of the new Gig economy.

So a mostly online company who employs remote workers probably based out of their own home using the Internet, cell phone and cell phone apps, people get fired by Gig economy technology.

What else do people expect, an in-person visit cup of Starbucks and a doughnut.

We're talking about youngsters who've known no different than Email, Facebook, instant messaging and remote technology. Sucks, but they are not employees with 20 years loyal service turning up at an office / factory / retail outlet etc. putting in a 10 hour shift 5 days a week.
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Yeah, no kidding, if they want to work at home and all that then that's how they will get let go is via Skype, duh. Why are people making such a big deal about it???

The bigger deal is that this is another canary in the coal mine about coming real estate crash, no??
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I am starting to understand why Google began banning and prohibiting Pay Day Loans to be advertised online

All these digital scumbags began popping up right after that happened
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I wonder how many got the shot to keep their jobs....
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Oof.
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... and ... he didn't count on the bad PR doing it in this manner would bring?

Guy should be fired immediately.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79035915


He's from Indian, they don't get it. He just thought it will be a great idea and efficient to just do it all at once.
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Bad PR, to the extent customers hear about it, will be forgotten quickly by people who themselves have been laid off and now just want to shop for a mortgage, or whatever this company does.
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I wonder how many got the shot to keep their jobs....
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Oof.
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He said 15% laid off. So 85% not laid off.
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I thought the CEO was very generous with the severance pay and 3 month of health insurance. When my former employer laid off in 2008, nobody got anything!
 Quoting: FightForGod!


he just got handed $750 million.

what's wrong with this picture?

[link to www.msn.com (secure)]

"He accused "at least 250" terminated staff members of stealing from the company by working just two hours a day, Fortune first reported.

"You guys know that at least 250 of the people terminated were working an average of 2 hours a day while clocking in 8 hours+ a day in the payroll system?"
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By saying it this way, he doesn't name any individual and isn't liable for defamation. Maybe it's true, who knows. More mortgage brokers, less mortgage brokers, we probably don't need as many as we have.
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Not uncommon in large tech companies. Entire divisions get laid off through emails or memo.
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Just days after receiving a $750 million cash infusion, a tech startup that Forbes branded in October as a “unicorn,” valued at $7 billion, laid off hundreds of employees in a manner that some online deemed “brutal.”

Better.com, a digital mortgage lender with offices in Oakland, laid off 900 employees weeks before Christmas on a mass Zoom call. Only those being laid off were invited. It is a stark tidal shift for the company, which announced it was going public earlier this year.

“I come to you with not great news,” CEO Vishal Garg said in the video, which has since circulated on TikTok and YouTube. “The market has changed, as you know, and we have to move with it in order to survive.”

“If you’re on this call, you are part of the unlucky group that is being laid off,” Garg said, citing “market efficiency, performances, productivity” among the reasons for the layoffs.

CEO video at the link [link to www.sfgate.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Swingline


Vishal Garg

Start paying attention to last names and ethnicity of those in power
this is a common theme
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Looks like they closed a call center in India.
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The voice in the video of the person losing her job sounded more Chinese or other Asian.
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Re: Startup valued at $7B gets flack as CEO lays off 900 employees over Zoom - Tech Mortgage Company
Just days after receiving a $750 million cash infusion, a tech startup that Forbes branded in October as a “unicorn,” valued at $7 billion, laid off hundreds of employees in a manner that some online deemed “brutal.”

Better.com, a digital mortgage lender with offices in Oakland, laid off 900 employees weeks before Christmas on a mass Zoom call. Only those being laid off were invited. It is a stark tidal shift for the company, which announced it was going public earlier this year.

“I come to you with not great news,” CEO Vishal Garg said in the video, which has since circulated on TikTok and YouTube. “The market has changed, as you know, and we have to move with it in order to survive.”

“If you’re on this call, you are part of the unlucky group that is being laid off,” Garg said, citing “market efficiency, performances, productivity” among the reasons for the layoffs.

CEO video at the link [link to www.sfgate.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Swingline


Vishal Garg

Start paying attention to last names and ethnicity of those in power
this is a common theme
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77038832


It ain't better at companies run by "Gates" or similar.





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