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Life after the Rapture.

 
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But as stated earlier, the Jesus of the bible is a fiction.

 Quoting: Zovalex

Quote some not-true fiction parts in specific please.

Apart from The Bible, there is no other Jesus that anybody cares about...
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Would it surprise you to know that I believe in Jesus as well?
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Ditto. Very much so, in fact.

But as stated earlier, the Jesus of the bible is a fiction.

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 Quoting: Zovalex


Then why try to co-opt the Name of Jesus?

Why another Jesus?

What is your source, your authority, for your other Jesus?

You say the Jesus of The Bible is not Good?

Can you quote any such part to me

or most certainly definitely not?
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You're a trinitarian.. you don't even believe in the Biblical Jesus yourself (who is not "the second member of the trinity"), so you're a hypocritical liar. You believe in another Jesus..
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naughty
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My work is done here.


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You didn't start. You never do.

You always run away.

You are afraid of the Good News Gospel Truth of Jesus Christ

and I really don't know why

because you are afraid to really say.

You never even answered the first question

because you do not know The Bible better than me...


And here we are, another month closer until you meet Jesus.

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My work is done here.


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You didn't start. You never do.

You always run away.

You are afraid of the Good News Gospel Truth of Jesus Christ

and I really don't know why

because you are afraid to really say.

You never even answered the first question

because you do not know The Bible better than me...


And here we are, another month closer until you meet Jesus.

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You are a hypocritical lying trinitarian false Christian antichrist. You follow and worship the Beast not Christ. Take the log out of your eye.
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I already did.

I studied it for years, in fact. Quite deeply, not merely reading it and calling that a “bible study”.

I know your bible better than YOU know your bible.

 Quoting: Zovalex


No, you don't.

If the Rapture happens, what would you expect next?

hmm

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spanky-waitn
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C'mon Mr. I Know Your Bible Better Than You Do...

If it appears, by your own judgment, that the Rapture may have happened,

what do you believe, from your deep and extensive studies, that The Bible teaches you to expect thereafter?

What things would you expect to begin to see happening?

hmm
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My work is done here.


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You didn't start. You never do.

You always run away.

You are afraid of the Good News Gospel Truth of Jesus Christ

and I really don't know why

because you are afraid to really say.

You never even answered the first question

because you do not know The Bible better than me...


And here we are, another month closer until you meet Jesus.

.
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No. He just understands, like I do, that it is ultimately useless to argue over such things.
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Would it surprise you to know that I believe in Jesus as well?
 Quoting: Green Witch


Ditto. Very much so, in fact.

But as stated earlier, the Jesus of the bible is a fiction.

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 Quoting: Zovalex


Then why try to co-opt the Name of Jesus?

Why another Jesus?

What is your source, your authority, for your other Jesus?

You say the Jesus of The Bible is not Good?

Can you quote any such part to me

or most certainly definitely not?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77497449


Therein lies the problem.

You studied the bible and ONLY the bible.

Open your Mind.

Look around you.

The sources and authorities for the REAL Jesus are out there.

“Seek and you shall find.”

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 Quoting: Zovalex


The problem is not me

because you could not answer the question...
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My work is done here.


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You didn't start. You never do.

You always run away.

You are afraid of the Good News Gospel Truth of Jesus Christ

and I really don't know why

because you are afraid to really say.

You never even answered the first question

because you do not know The Bible better than me...


And here we are, another month closer until you meet Jesus.

.
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You are a hypocritical lying trinitarian false Christian antichrist. You follow and worship the Beast not Christ. Take the log out of your eye.
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Honk honk.
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My work is done here.


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You didn't start. You never do.

You always run away.

You are afraid of the Good News Gospel Truth of Jesus Christ

and I really don't know why

because you are afraid to really say.

You never even answered the first question

because you do not know The Bible better than me...


And here we are, another month closer until you meet Jesus.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77497449


Run away?

It’s called Walking away.

….and here is a typical example of many you have provided that explains why I walk away:

Apart from The Bible, there is no other Jesus that anybody cares about...
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Your Mind is closed as tight as a steel trap.

Information and learning cannot penetrate it.

But you’re a programmed NPC, so I wouldn’t expect otherwise.

…and now I shall walk away, because you want only to be understood rather than to understand.

Sayonara!

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It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
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-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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My work is done here.


 Quoting: Zovalex


You didn't start. You never do.

You always run away.

You are afraid of the Good News Gospel Truth of Jesus Christ

and I really don't know why

because you are afraid to really say.

You never even answered the first question

because you do not know The Bible better than me...


And here we are, another month closer until you meet Jesus.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77497449


No. He just understands, like I do, that it is ultimately useless to argue over such things.
 Quoting: Green Witch


If there is any truth to anything you say

I would like to know it and examine it.

Neither of you will present any other evidences of your other Jesus

because there are none

so the question remains,

who do you try to claim Jesus Christ?

Why?
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How fascinating that you anti-Christians bring His Name up and seemingly wish to claim Him as your own now!

You wish to claim Jesus Christ?!

Excellent!

That must mean that you acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Good, right?

That must mean that you acknowledge that Jesus Christ is True, right?

Let's talk about Jesus.

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But it never happens...
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My work is done here.


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You didn't start. You never do.

You always run away.

You are afraid of the Good News Gospel Truth of Jesus Christ

and I really don't know why

because you are afraid to really say.

You never even answered the first question

because you do not know The Bible better than me...


And here we are, another month closer until you meet Jesus.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77497449


No. He just understands, like I do, that it is ultimately useless to argue over such things.
 Quoting: Green Witch


If there is any truth to anything you say

I would like to know it and examine it.

Neither of you will present any other evidences of your other Jesus

because there are none

so the question remains,

who do you try to claim Jesus Christ?

Why?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77497449


Why do you is the question you should be asking.
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...Lastly, the great character they have portrayed is perfect. It is the character of a sinless Being; of one supremely wise and supremely good. It exhibits no error, no sinister intention, no imprudence, no ignorance, no evil passion, no impatience; in a word, no fault; but all is perfect uprightness, innocence, wisdom, goodness and truth. The mind of man has never conceived the idea of such a character, even for his gods; nor has history or poetry shadowed it forth. The doctrines and precepts of Jesus are in strict accordance with the attributes of God, agreeably to the most exalted idea which we can form of them, either from reason or from revelation. They are strikingly adapted to the capacity of mankind, and yet are delivered with a simplicity and majesty wholly divine. He spake as never man spake. He spake with authority; yet addressed himself to the reason and the understanding of men; and he spake with wisdom, which men could neither gainsay nor resist. In his private life, he exhibits a character not merely of strict justice, but of flowing benignity. He is temperate, without austerity; his meekness and humility are signal; his patience is invincible; truth and sincerity illustrate his whole conduct; every one of his virtues is regulated by consummate prudence; and he both wins the love of his friends, and extorts the wonder and admiration of his enemies. He is represented in very variety of situation in life, from the height of worldly grandeur, amid the acclamations of an admiring multitude, to the deepest abyss of human degradation and woe, apparently deserted of God and man. Yet everywhere he is the same; displaying a character of unearthly perfection, symmetrical in all its proportions, and encircled with splendor more than human. Either the men of Galilee were men of superlative wisdom, and extensive knowledge and experience, and of deeper skill in the arts of deception, than any and all others, before or after them, or they have truly stated the astonishing things which they saw and heard.


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Why do you is the question you should be asking.
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Why do you say I should be asking why I claim Jesus?

I claim Jesus because I believe He is the Good God and that He loves us.

I hope in Him and His Kingdom.

I have no problem talking about Jesus Christ as much as you guys might want... which obviously is not really?

You guys say you really believe in Jesus and then just leave it at that,

as if every word of The Book is dismissed but the name Jesus?!
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I claim Jesus because I believe He is the Good God and that He loves us
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No you do not. You believe "the trinity" is the God and Jesus is just the second member/part of it.

Why lie?
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Jesus Christ.


It is The Name...


Unlike any other.
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...Lastly, the great character they have portrayed is perfect. It is the character of a sinless Being; of one supremely wise and supremely good. It exhibits no error, no sinister intention, no imprudence, no ignorance, no evil passion, no impatience; in a word, no fault; but all is perfect uprightness, innocence, wisdom, goodness and truth. The mind of man has never conceived the idea of such a character, even for his gods; nor has history or poetry shadowed it forth. The doctrines and precepts of Jesus are in strict accordance with the attributes of God, agreeably to the most exalted idea which we can form of them, either from reason or from revelation. They are strikingly adapted to the capacity of mankind, and yet are delivered with a simplicity and majesty wholly divine. He spake as never man spake. He spake with authority; yet addressed himself to the reason and the understanding of men; and he spake with wisdom, which men could neither gainsay nor resist. In his private life, he exhibits a character not merely of strict justice, but of flowing benignity. He is temperate, without austerity; his meekness and humility are signal; his patience is invincible; truth and sincerity illustrate his whole conduct; every one of his virtues is regulated by consummate prudence; and he both wins the love of his friends, and extorts the wonder and admiration of his enemies. He is represented in very variety of situation in life, from the height of worldly grandeur, amid the acclamations of an admiring multitude, to the deepest abyss of human degradation and woe, apparently deserted of God and man. Yet everywhere he is the same; displaying a character of unearthly perfection, symmetrical in all its proportions, and encircled with splendor more than human. Either the men of Galilee were men of superlative wisdom, and extensive knowledge and experience, and of deeper skill in the arts of deception, than any and all others, before or after them, or they have truly stated the astonishing things which they saw and heard.


[link to law2.umkc.edu]

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Simon Greenleaf? Really? LOL
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I am the LORD, and there is no other;
There is no God besides Me
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And there is no other God besides Me,
A just God and a Savior;
There is none besides Me.


"Look to Me, and be saved,
All you ends of the earth!
For I am God, and there is no other
.
to Me every knee shall bow,
Every tongue shall take an oath
..


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Jesus Christ.


It is The Name...


Unlike any other.
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Jesus is Christ is not "a trinity".
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And My name is blasphemed continually every day.
Therefore My people shall know My name;
Therefore they shall know in that day
That I am He who speaks:
'Behold, it is I.'



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And My name is blasphemed continually every day.
Therefore My people shall know My name;
Therefore they shall know in that day
That I am He who speaks:
'Behold, it is I.'



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Why are you citing Isaiah?
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Jesus Christ.


It is The Name...


Unlike any other.
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Jesus Christ is not "a trinity".
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naughty
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...Lastly, the great character they have portrayed is perfect. It is the character of a sinless Being; of one supremely wise and supremely good. It exhibits no error, no sinister intention, no imprudence, no ignorance, no evil passion, no impatience; in a word, no fault; but all is perfect uprightness, innocence, wisdom, goodness and truth. The mind of man has never conceived the idea of such a character, even for his gods; nor has history or poetry shadowed it forth. The doctrines and precepts of Jesus are in strict accordance with the attributes of God, agreeably to the most exalted idea which we can form of them, either from reason or from revelation. They are strikingly adapted to the capacity of mankind, and yet are delivered with a simplicity and majesty wholly divine. He spake as never man spake. He spake with authority; yet addressed himself to the reason and the understanding of men; and he spake with wisdom, which men could neither gainsay nor resist. In his private life, he exhibits a character not merely of strict justice, but of flowing benignity. He is temperate, without austerity; his meekness and humility are signal; his patience is invincible; truth and sincerity illustrate his whole conduct; every one of his virtues is regulated by consummate prudence; and he both wins the love of his friends, and extorts the wonder and admiration of his enemies. He is represented in very variety of situation in life, from the height of worldly grandeur, amid the acclamations of an admiring multitude, to the deepest abyss of human degradation and woe, apparently deserted of God and man. Yet everywhere he is the same; displaying a character of unearthly perfection, symmetrical in all its proportions, and encircled with splendor more than human. Either the men of Galilee were men of superlative wisdom, and extensive knowledge and experience, and of deeper skill in the arts of deception, than any and all others, before or after them, or they have truly stated the astonishing things which they saw and heard.


[link to law2.umkc.edu]

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77497449


Simon Greenleaf? Really? LOL
 Quoting: Green Witch

Is he mock-worthy for some reason?

Is he not a significant thinker concerning the validity of evidences?

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Jesus Christ.


It is The Name...


Unlike any other.
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Jesus Christ is not "a trinity".
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naughty
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Wolf in sheep's clothing..
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Outwardly: "Jesus! Jesus!"

Inwardly: "Third Person! Trinity!"
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...Lastly, the great character they have portrayed is perfect. It is the character of a sinless Being; of one supremely wise and supremely good. It exhibits no error, no sinister intention, no imprudence, no ignorance, no evil passion, no impatience; in a word, no fault; but all is perfect uprightness, innocence, wisdom, goodness and truth. The mind of man has never conceived the idea of such a character, even for his gods; nor has history or poetry shadowed it forth. The doctrines and precepts of Jesus are in strict accordance with the attributes of God, agreeably to the most exalted idea which we can form of them, either from reason or from revelation. They are strikingly adapted to the capacity of mankind, and yet are delivered with a simplicity and majesty wholly divine. He spake as never man spake. He spake with authority; yet addressed himself to the reason and the understanding of men; and he spake with wisdom, which men could neither gainsay nor resist. In his private life, he exhibits a character not merely of strict justice, but of flowing benignity. He is temperate, without austerity; his meekness and humility are signal; his patience is invincible; truth and sincerity illustrate his whole conduct; every one of his virtues is regulated by consummate prudence; and he both wins the love of his friends, and extorts the wonder and admiration of his enemies. He is represented in very variety of situation in life, from the height of worldly grandeur, amid the acclamations of an admiring multitude, to the deepest abyss of human degradation and woe, apparently deserted of God and man. Yet everywhere he is the same; displaying a character of unearthly perfection, symmetrical in all its proportions, and encircled with splendor more than human. Either the men of Galilee were men of superlative wisdom, and extensive knowledge and experience, and of deeper skill in the arts of deception, than any and all others, before or after them, or they have truly stated the astonishing things which they saw and heard.


[link to law2.umkc.edu]

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Simon Greenleaf? Really? LOL
 Quoting: Green Witch

Is he mock-worthy for some reason?

Is he not a significant thinker concerning the validity of evidences?

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You can't see the problem of a Christian trying to prove Christianity?
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Your Mind is closed as tight as a steel trap.

Information and learning cannot penetrate it.

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So closed that i keep repeatedly begging you to provide anything to substantiate anything you say because I am most eager to examine and consider it

because I am so closed

to whatever neither of you have to offer

in the Name of Jesus Christ.

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Your Mind is closed as tight as a steel trap.

Information and learning cannot penetrate it.

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So closed that i keep repeatedly begging you to provide anything to substantiate anything you say because I am most eager to examine and consider it

because I am so closed

to whatever neither of you have to offer

in the Name of Jesus Christ.

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I guess you missed my post about cherry picking
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Such strange behavior

such simple cognitive dissonance

from such apparently otherwise reasonable people


but when it comes to Jesus Christ

souls are exposed...

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...Lastly, the great character they have portrayed is perfect. It is the character of a sinless Being; of one supremely wise and supremely good. It exhibits no error, no sinister intention, no imprudence, no ignorance, no evil passion, no impatience; in a word, no fault; but all is perfect uprightness, innocence, wisdom, goodness and truth. The mind of man has never conceived the idea of such a character, even for his gods; nor has history or poetry shadowed it forth. The doctrines and precepts of Jesus are in strict accordance with the attributes of God, agreeably to the most exalted idea which we can form of them, either from reason or from revelation. They are strikingly adapted to the capacity of mankind, and yet are delivered with a simplicity and majesty wholly divine. He spake as never man spake. He spake with authority; yet addressed himself to the reason and the understanding of men; and he spake with wisdom, which men could neither gainsay nor resist. In his private life, he exhibits a character not merely of strict justice, but of flowing benignity. He is temperate, without austerity; his meekness and humility are signal; his patience is invincible; truth and sincerity illustrate his whole conduct; every one of his virtues is regulated by consummate prudence; and he both wins the love of his friends, and extorts the wonder and admiration of his enemies. He is represented in very variety of situation in life, from the height of worldly grandeur, amid the acclamations of an admiring multitude, to the deepest abyss of human degradation and woe, apparently deserted of God and man. Yet everywhere he is the same; displaying a character of unearthly perfection, symmetrical in all its proportions, and encircled with splendor more than human. Either the men of Galilee were men of superlative wisdom, and extensive knowledge and experience, and of deeper skill in the arts of deception, than any and all others, before or after them, or they have truly stated the astonishing things which they saw and heard.


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Simon Greenleaf? Really? LOL
 Quoting: Green Witch

Is he mock-worthy for some reason?

Is he not a significant thinker concerning the validity of evidences?

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You can't see the problem of a Christian trying to prove Christianity?
 Quoting: Green Witch


Greenleaf was intent on disproving Christianity.


How to penetrate such a fog?





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