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The third shoe has dropped.

 
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The third shoe has dropped.
British Foreign Secretary urging European countries to search for alternatives to Russian gas.


Lavrov cancelling his trip to Israel, the Middle East and North Africa.


Belarus preparing to pull out of the SWIFT system.


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Re: The third shoe has dropped.
Such great green deal.ill bet the british monarchy aint going without.
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Such great green deal.ill bet the british monarchy aint going without.
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Re: The third shoe has dropped.
British Foreign Secretary urging European countries to search for alternatives to Russian gas.


Lavrov cancelling his trip to Israel, the Middle East and North Africa.


Belarus preparing to pull out of the SWIFT system.


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3 BIG SHOEZ RITE DERE..UH.
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Re: The third shoe has dropped.
British Foreign Secretary urging European countries to search for alternatives to Russian gas.


Lavrov cancelling his trip to Israel, the Middle East and North Africa.


Belarus preparing to pull out of the SWIFT system.


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Kind of late in the game for that. Not a good time to have your gas cut off

Anywho, we have a world war kicking off just in time for the holidays
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Re: The third shoe has dropped.
What's the fourth shoe?

Should America seek an alliance with Russia?

Only on the condition that we both dispose of our vax systems and all their agents.
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What's the fourth shoe?

Should America seek an alliance with Russia?

Only on the condition that we both dispose of our vax systems and all their agents.
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We need to crush the world on two hemispheres.

(To use globe Earth terminology.)
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You can't keep denying that our enemy is a world power, controlling almost all nations.
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Re: The third shoe has dropped.
What's the fourth shoe?

I'll answer my own question, since no one else will.

The sound of two kings taking off their shoes and standing on Holy ground.
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British Foreign Secretary urging European countries to search for alternatives to Russian gas.


Lavrov cancelling his trip to Israel, the Middle East and North Africa.


Belarus preparing to pull out of the SWIFT system.


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3 BIG SHOEZ RITE DERE..UH.
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The dancer has two left feet.



John has a long mustache.


The rocking chair is against the door.
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You can't keep denying that our enemy is a world power, controlling almost all nations.
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When did I?
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Anyone else ready for this slow grind shit show to get on the road?!
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Re: The third shoe has dropped.
What's the fourth shoe?

I'll answer my own question, since no one else will.

The sound of two kings taking off their shoes and standing on Holy ground.
 Quoting: The Albuquerque Statesman


Well, the first two shoes had already dropped in my opinion.


Signs of war:


Lavrov cancelling his trip and the British FM calling for Europe to find new sources of energy.


I was waiting for one more shoe to drop to kind of confirm things though and I think Belarus preparing to pull out of SWIFT is just that.


The third shoe.
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Re: The third shoe has dropped.
British Foreign Secretary urging European countries to search for alternatives to Russian gas.


Lavrov cancelling his trip to Israel, the Middle East and North Africa.


Belarus preparing to pull out of the SWIFT system.


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Kind of late in the game for that. Not a good time to have your gas cut off

Anywho, we have a world war kicking off just in time for the holidays
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That will make people shut up about the covids crimes
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Re: The third shoe has dropped.
What's the fourth shoe?

I'll answer my own question, since no one else will.

The sound of two kings taking off their shoes and standing on Holy ground.
 Quoting: The Albuquerque Statesman


Well, the first two shoes had already dropped in my opinion.


Signs of war:


Lavrov cancelling his trip and the British FM calling for Europe to find new sources of energy.


I was waiting for one more shoe to drop to kind of confirm things though and I think Belarus preparing to pull out of SWIFT is just that.


The third shoe.
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I believe you're 100% correct
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Re: The third shoe has dropped.
What's the fourth shoe?

I'll answer my own question, since no one else will.

The sound of two kings taking off their shoes and standing on Holy ground.
 Quoting: The Albuquerque Statesman


Well, the first two shoes had already dropped in my opinion.


Signs of war:


Lavrov cancelling his trip and the British FM calling for Europe to find new sources of energy.


I was waiting for one more shoe to drop to kind of confirm things though and I think Belarus preparing to pull out of SWIFT is just that.


The third shoe.
 Quoting: Builder is Back


I believe you're 100% correct
 Quoting: Building Momentum

Sometimes, I don't even like being correct.

LOL
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Re: The third shoe has dropped.
The USA could be supplying LNG to Europe and becoming a rich nation...if TRUMP was still in the white house.
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Re: The third shoe has dropped.
The USA could be supplying LNG to Europe and becoming a rich nation...if TRUMP was still in the white house.
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The alternative energy sources things is key here.

What this is all about.


A big part of it anyway.


That and Iran, I think.



For Russia and China it is other things, of course (Ukraine and Taiwan).


I think people are going to be surprised at how events unfold.


The direct consequence for the US and the west won't be that bad, but further down the line...
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Re: The third shoe has dropped.
What's the fourth shoe?

I'll answer my own question, since no one else will.

The sound of two kings taking off their shoes and standing on Holy ground.
 Quoting: The Albuquerque Statesman


Well, the first two shoes had already dropped in my opinion.


Signs of war:


Lavrov cancelling his trip and the British FM calling for Europe to find new sources of energy.


I was waiting for one more shoe to drop to kind of confirm things though and I think Belarus preparing to pull out of SWIFT is just that.


The third shoe.
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I think you’re right.
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Re: The third shoe has dropped.
Builder, do you think China will move on Taiwan, and Israel on Iran, at the same time the Ukraine situation comes to a head?
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Re: The third shoe has dropped.
Builder, do you think China will move on Taiwan, and Israel on Iran, at the same time the Ukraine situation comes to a head?
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I think all three situations may go hot simultaneously or near simultaneously.


It is always wise to strike while the iron is hot.
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Anyone else ready for this slow grind shit show to get on the road?!
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Yep. Ready for the oopsie missile(s) that will be totally unexpected.
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Re: The third shoe has dropped.
not a word on any of this on MSM
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not a word on any of this on MSM
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Of course not.

They don't need to prep the peasants for this.


This is not like our previous "wars".
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The USA could be supplying LNG to Europe and becoming a rich nation...if TRUMP was still in the white house.
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Hell, Texas could cover that market...
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The USA could be supplying LNG to Europe and becoming a rich nation...if TRUMP was still in the white house.
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Hell, Texas could cover that market...
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It would require new infrastructure: LPG-handling ports.

We should have been working on this for ages, indeed.

Last Edited by High Desert Cat on 12/11/2021 07:56 PM
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Re: The third shoe has dropped.
Builder, do you think China will move on Taiwan, and Israel on Iran, at the same time the Ukraine situation comes to a head?
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I think all three situations may go hot simultaneously or near simultaneously.


It is always wise to strike while the iron is hot.
 Quoting: Builder is Back


Thanks, that’s my take on it as well. Since Israel’s call-up of reserves today, it looks like that theater will be open for business in a few week’s time, or possibly less. The ground has now gotten hard enough to support armor in the Ukraine and environs, so there’s that.

China is in the process of converting, and has already converted, large numbers of commercial vessels to troop transports and landing ships:

Thousands Of Ships, Millions Of Troops: China Is Assembling a Huge Fleet For War With Taiwan
[link to www.forbes.com (secure)]

This has been going in since around 2015:

China Prepares Its 172,000 Civilian Ships for War
[link to thediplomat.com (secure)]

They probably have more than enough by now.

On a related note vis. China/Taiwan, were you aware that the Chinese made very explicit nuclear threats to Japan this past summer, to the effect that they would attack them with nuclear weapons if they interfered with any “repatriation”, as they referred to it, of Taiwan?

Complicating the issue is that, according to certain sources, Japan has around 100 to 150 nuclear devices, all fission weapons ranging from mini-nukes to yields around 100kt, and has had them since the late 1980s (by internal agreement, the works and casings are kept in far separate locations from their plutonium “pits”)... the U.S. wasn’t aware of this until some time after they had been created.
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Re: The third shoe has dropped.
Builder, do you think China will move on Taiwan, and Israel on Iran, at the same time the Ukraine situation comes to a head?
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I think all three situations may go hot simultaneously or near simultaneously.


It is always wise to strike while the iron is hot.
 Quoting: Builder is Back


Thanks, that’s my take on it as well. Since Israel’s call-up of reserves today, it looks like that theater will be open for business in a few week’s time, or possibly less. The ground has now gotten hard enough to support armor in the Ukraine and environs, so there’s that.

China is in the process of converting, and has already converted, large numbers of commercial vessels to troop transports and landing ships:

Thousands Of Ships, Millions Of Troops: China Is Assembling a Huge Fleet For War With Taiwan
[link to www.forbes.com (secure)]

This has been going in since around 2015:

China Prepares Its 172,000 Civilian Ships for War
[link to thediplomat.com (secure)]

They probably have more than enough by now.

On a related note vis. China/Taiwan, were you aware that the Chinese made very explicit nuclear threats to Japan this past summer, to the effect that they would attack them with nuclear weapons if they interfered with any “repatriation”, as they referred to it, of Taiwan?

Complicating the issue is that, according to certain sources, Japan has around 100 to 150 nuclear devices, all fission weapons ranging from mini-nukes to yields around 100kt, and has had them since the late 1980s (by internal agreement, the works and casings are kept in far separate locations from their plutonium “pits”)... the U.S. wasn’t aware of this until some time after they had been created.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53679540


Sorry, forgot the link to an article re: China’s explicit nuclear threats towards Japan:

The reason why China threatens to “nuke Japan continuously”
[link to centerforsecuritypolicy.org (secure)]
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Good. You know why? This is an ACTUAL problem, not some fake bullshit virus that has everyone running around in face diapers and enabling our power mad governments to force vaccinate us.

A real problem.

Good.
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Re: The third shoe has dropped.
Builder, do you think China will move on Taiwan, and Israel on Iran, at the same time the Ukraine situation comes to a head?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53679540


I think all three situations may go hot simultaneously or near simultaneously.


It is always wise to strike while the iron is hot.
 Quoting: Builder is Back


Thanks, that’s my take on it as well. Since Israel’s call-up of reserves today, it looks like that theater will be open for business in a few week’s time, or possibly less. The ground has now gotten hard enough to support armor in the Ukraine and environs, so there’s that.

China is in the process of converting, and has already converted, large numbers of commercial vessels to troop transports and landing ships:

Thousands Of Ships, Millions Of Troops: China Is Assembling a Huge Fleet For War With Taiwan
[link to www.forbes.com (secure)]

This has been going in since around 2015:

China Prepares Its 172,000 Civilian Ships for War
[link to thediplomat.com (secure)]

They probably have more than enough by now.

On a related note vis. China/Taiwan, were you aware that the Chinese made very explicit nuclear threats to Japan this past summer, to the effect that they would attack them with nuclear weapons if they interfered with any “repatriation”, as they referred to it, of Taiwan?

Complicating the issue is that, according to certain sources, Japan has around 100 to 150 nuclear devices, all fission weapons ranging from mini-nukes to yields around 100kt, and has had them since the late 1980s (by internal agreement, the works and casings are kept in far separate locations from their plutonium “pits”)... the U.S. wasn’t aware of this until some time after they had been created.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53679540


Sorry, forgot the link to an article re: China’s explicit nuclear threats towards Japan:

The reason why China threatens to “nuke Japan continuously”
[link to centerforsecuritypolicy.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53679540

Japan is under threat from China AND Russia jointly.

And, of course, NK is a constant threat for them.

China's attack dog which they let off the leash when they please.
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Good. You know why? This is an ACTUAL problem, not some fake bullshit virus that has everyone running around in face diapers and enabling our power mad governments to force vaccinate us.

A real problem.

Good.
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It is refreshing from that angle.
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