The Kingdom of Heaven

According to Jesus in the bible:

And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: 21Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Its right under your nose. Its inside you!

Its not over there. lol. Or over here.

Luke 17: 20-22

20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

22 And he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see one of the days of the Son of man, and ye shall not see it.

All I hope is for people to realize their full potential and truly understand what they are.

So what are you expecting to experience ?

dont make me vomit

I expect to experience love from my neighbors.

Won't that be awesome !

I created a thread like this once.

There was no interest, as usual.

I think about it all the time, but just to fill it up with stuff.

I consider it inevitable, because God did not create in vain.

When I consider so much of what goes on, so much of what most people do, etc., I think it will be a sparsely populated place.

I've only known a handful of people I want to see in the Kingdom of Heaven.

Most people will have to get there on their own, or they will need to hold on hard to Jesus' coattails.

I wish I could say better.

A good source material, Christian source material, is a classic monastic text called "The Cloud of Unknowing".

Which is basically christian "zen". So, here's a Zen quote that is pretty straightfoward, saying essentially the same thing as that Christian text:


Withdraw now from
the invisible pounding and weaving
of your ingrained ideas.
Attain fulfillment and illuminate thoroughly.
Light and shadow altogether forgotten.
Drop off your own skin,
and the sense-dusts will be fully purified.
The eye then readily discerns the Brightness.

- Zen master Hongzhi Zhengjue (1091–1157)

Yes! Very awesome!

I have considered that my impression of human beings may be skewed by this being the "wicked generation" Jesus was talking about.

Jesus might have hated wicked people even more than I do.

He certainly sounded pissed when he said he would give them no miracles.

Jesus won't help them.

He demands absolute repentance from the Wicked Generation.

It means they will have to reach the Kingdom of Heaven only by their own efforts.

And they will surely be damned if they don't repent.

Older generations seemed better to me, and many of them probably were.

They were more deserving of miracles.

there are different kingdoms in the spiritual world. I've seen at least a few. some looked quite material. however, there are very many such kingdoms in the spiritual world.

nevertheless, if something happens on earth, it affects the spiritual world near earth as well as every kingdom that will be open to such an event.

beings in the spiritual world are very good beings.

Dude the spirit world is earth too. I wouldnt say it was really "near" earth. Thats like saying its over there. Its right here. Its hard to recognize for the majority. And for me too!

But once you catch a glimpse of it. You can't Un catch a glimpse of it really.

It resides in people.

Can you imagine a world were everyone got along and shared everything they thought they had?

Ubuntu!

Its only in us to make that happen.

Dude the spirit world is earth too. I wouldnt say it was really "near" earth.


You dont understand .

Jesus told truth about spirituality inside of everyone but this not all .

As you know there are diferent spiritual manifestation trought peoples.

Yes when I said near Earth it was not that on the moon ;)

Also people should be able to access whichever physical, mental, and spiritual planes/dimensions that they wish to without any limitations or restrictions getting in the way of their growth and progress

Read revelation 21 it gives a vivid description of the city and it comes to earth.

Thats like saying its over there.

Absolutly over there.

It's going to be awesome.
I've already had a sneak peak at it and the world to come. It is absolutely beautiful.
Please do not be stupid and trade it away. Stay on the straight and narrow path.

They try to climb the back wall..

Met with Ferocity..

"What did we do?"..

Its in your bible..

Back wall climbers..

The spiritual manifestations are love for example. Or anger or jealousy.

Its not over there.

I also dont believe in fairy tales either.

Sorry. Its more simple than you think.

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