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ALEX BERENSON: STUNNING Data About Vaccine Failure From Ontario, Canada

 
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Alex Berenson 1 hr ago


Them thar green line is infections among the vaccinated. Assuming these are Omicron cases, there are only two possibilities:

The vaccines have now failed completely.

Omicron preferentially infects vaccinated people.

Hey, why not both?

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very simple and to the point.

Great graph.

The vaxxed wont believe it though.

Have a good holiday OP and thank you for the others threads you started over the last couple of weeks.

hf
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Thank you for sharing.
The media keeps pushing the fear and the Ski instruction believes he can impose any draconian measures on the people.
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Original Antigenic Sin, also known as Antigenic Imprinting, caused by this stupid mass vaccination.

Denmark is also seeing that omicron prefers the vaxxed sheep.
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Nice post OP
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And I am presuming that this is the omikron spike which seems to be mild anyways but escaping the vaccine-immunity?

Don't know how it has spread in Canada.
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Every time I hear Omnicron my eyes glaze.

This is propaganda nonsense, all tests are bogus, no way to isolate.

I not only believe you on the vaxxed being screwed, I am living it in California, every vaxxed person I know is sick, but no telling which bio weapon caused it.
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Need to put the per 100,000 than cases because so much of canadians have been vaccinated, seems that Berenson is a sellout who gives misleading information, or so stupid that he cannot do statistics.

But real data shows that it really doesn't matter if your vaxxed or not, will have to wait to see the severity of the cases.

Good thing is that almost no one seems to be dying.
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Sounds a bit like the common cold eh?
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very simple and to the point.

Great graph.

The vaxxed wont believe it though.

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it can't be true.
because Trump was mean but Joe cares about us.

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Need to put the per 100,000 than cases because so much of canadians have been vaccinated, seems that Berenson is a sellout who gives misleading information, or so stupid that he cannot do statistics.

But real data shows that it really doesn't matter if your vaxxed or not, will have to wait to see the severity of the cases.

Good thing is that almost no one seems to be dying.
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Sounds a bit like the common cold eh?
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Indeed.
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The correct analysis is rate per 100,000. Even for the past 7 days the unvaccinated at a high of 24/100,000 and the partially vaccinated and fully vaccinated are 16-17/100,000

81% of Ontarians are fully vaccinated. So very likely the numbers will be higher. The vaccines are less effective than previous variants, they seem more effective than unvaccinated according to this data, but time will tell.

Lots of things to be concerned about with vaccines, this data is not conclusive against them. Other than the infection protection is declining, so big question is does it protect from serious outcomes like it did for Delta.
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Next the CDC will announce...the vaccine has completely FAILED! so go get your vax and boosters!
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Maybe when TV's malfunction the sheep will wake up? But I think its too late for that.
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There is no spoon Omicron
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"Covid Boosters" are at 'effective' by definition.
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The correct analysis is rate per 100,000. Even for the past 7 days the unvaccinated at a high of 24/100,000 and the partially vaccinated and fully vaccinated are 16-17/100,000

81% of Ontarians are fully vaccinated. So very likely the numbers will be higher. The vaccines are less effective than previous variants, they seem more effective than unvaccinated according to this data, but time will tell.

Lots of things to be concerned about with vaccines, this data is not conclusive against them. Other than the infection protection is declining, so big question is does it protect from serious outcomes like it did for Delta.
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So a little difference, do you have any information regarding the severity of the cases, hospitalization etc.
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The correct analysis is rate per 100,000. Even for the past 7 days the unvaccinated at a high of 24/100,000 and the partially vaccinated and fully vaccinated are 16-17/100,000

81% of Ontarians are fully vaccinated. So very likely the numbers will be higher. The vaccines are less effective than previous variants, they seem more effective than unvaccinated according to this data, but time will tell.

Lots of things to be concerned about with vaccines, this data is not conclusive against them. Other than the infection protection is declining, so big question is does it protect from serious outcomes like it did for Delta.
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So a little difference, do you have any information regarding the severity of the cases, hospitalization etc.
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No it is too early, the hospitalization data is lagged.
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3. Omicron is (effectively) the vacks and the vack'd are reservoirs where the vid can mutate since the vacks is non-sterilizing with a combo of ADE/VEI which is why the un-vacks aren't getting sick.

All of this was predicted.

What remains unpredictable is how far people will let them take it. They will ride Omicron all the way to door-kicking-force-vacks'ing if we let them.

It's a mild cold.
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Need to put the per 100,000 than cases because so much of canadians have been vaccinated, seems that Berenson is a sellout who gives misleading information, or so stupid that he cannot do statistics.

But real data shows that it really doesn't matter if your vaxxed or not, will have to wait to see the severity of the cases.

Good thing is that almost no one seems to be dying.
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so....you are basically saying that the shot doesnt work, right?
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Need to put the per 100,000 than cases because so much of canadians have been vaccinated, seems that Berenson is a sellout who gives misleading information, or so stupid that he cannot do statistics.

But real data shows that it really doesn't matter if your vaxxed or not, will have to wait to see the severity of the cases.

Good thing is that almost no one seems to be dying.
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so....you are basically saying that the shot doesnt work, right?
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Much protection against infection has clearly been lost for double vaxed. Have to see about booster. And we don’t know in North America yet about bad outcome protection. But South Africa data showed benefits but they have weird population demographics. Rich are mainly vaxed and have better general health that third world living poor that are unvaxed. Very interesting to watch! I don’t think we can say definitively either way on hospitalizations.
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Alex Berenson 1 hr ago


Them thar green line is infections among the vaccinated. Assuming these are Omicron cases, there are only two possibilities:

The vaccines have now failed completely.

Omicron preferentially infects vaccinated people.

Hey, why not both?

CONTINUED AT:
[link to alexberenson.substack.com (secure)]
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And, it's their desire to make vaccines mandatory.
These people are pure evil. It's no longer about health, this is about spiritual war.
Question is, who wiil fight & who will surrender?
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Need to put the per 100,000 than cases because so much of canadians have been vaccinated, seems that Berenson is a sellout who gives misleading information, or so stupid that he cannot do statistics.

But real data shows that it really doesn't matter if your vaxxed or not, will have to wait to see the severity of the cases.

Good thing is that almost no one seems to be dying.
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so....you are basically saying that the shot doesnt work, right?
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Well, im unvaccinated, so... at the beginning they worked on reducing deaths, but i have been suspicious of the long term effects since they started the studies.
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This is very telling. Combine this with the article by eugyppius about omicron being modified in a lab, and we can make an educated guess about what the goal is. And it's looking more and more like they modified the virus to ensure that it infects the vaxed, so they can come swooping in with a NEW vax that resets their whole monetization model.
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So they vaxxed are spiking up, what's your point?
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This is very telling. Combine this with the article by eugyppius about omicron being modified in a lab, and we can make an educated guess about what the goal is. And it's looking more and more like they modified the virus to ensure that it infects the vaxed, so they can come swooping in with a NEW vax that resets their whole monetization model.
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very possible
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Hey Doc - in case you haven't seen it, here's the eugyppius substack piece:
[link to eugyppius.substack.com (secure)]

I found him through Alex.
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Re: ALEX BERENSON: STUNNING Data About Vaccine Failure From Ontario, Canada
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Alex Berenson 1 hr ago


Them thar green line is infections among the vaccinated. Assuming these are Omicron cases, there are only two possibilities:

The vaccines have now failed completely.

Omicron preferentially infects vaccinated people.

Hey, why not both?

CONTINUED AT:
[link to alexberenson.substack.com (secure)]
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You can preview all the data here.

[link to data.ontario.ca (secure)]
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But the vaccinated are a cult now.


So they don't care.


More lockdowns, more masks, more boosters!





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