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(OP) User ID: 77976075 United States 01/20/2022 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Psalms meditation, Processing/"living out" God's transforming power "warts n all" and praying on Thursday 11/3/22 @ 2:00pm the cous cous is done. Delicioso. "Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing." -Clive James Miss Trump yet? LET IT RAIN. |
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(OP) User ID: 77976075 United States 01/20/2022 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Psalms meditation, Processing/"living out" God's transforming power "warts n all" and praying on Thursday 11/3/22 @ 2:00pm For our edification, as we pray against the powers of darkness. May this message encourage us to keep on praying, and to stand against the powers of darkness, and all that hide in that darkness, scheming and doing evil in that darkness. God bless us, ev'ry one Last Edited by ShiningLightIntoDarkPlaces on 09/07/2022 02:49 PM "Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing." -Clive James Miss Trump yet? LET IT RAIN. |
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(OP) User ID: 77976075 United States 01/20/2022 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Psalms meditation, Processing/"living out" God's transforming power "warts n all" and praying on Thursday 11/3/22 @ 2:00pm RUN FOR YOUR LIFE. Times are urgent. We are to be fully awake and sober-minded and alert to the evil all around us, that has even seeped into the churches, and slowly dissolves anything of the living God. It's time to wake up. As it is written: "Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ will shine upon you." -Ephesians 5:14 Last Edited by ShiningLightIntoDarkPlaces on 09/07/2022 10:29 AM "Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing." -Clive James Miss Trump yet? LET IT RAIN. |
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(OP) User ID: 77976075 United States 01/20/2022 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Psalms meditation, Processing/"living out" God's transforming power "warts n all" and praying on Thursday 11/3/22 @ 2:00pm Praying to God for our safety, each n' ev'ry one of us. He IS our refuge and our Place of Safety. This song reminds me of how He is our Shepherd, and watches over us and protects us like a shepherd with his flock. He IS our Shepherd. And we are safe with Him. Last Edited by ShiningLightIntoDarkPlaces on 01/20/2022 02:36 PM "Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing." -Clive James Miss Trump yet? LET IT RAIN. |
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(OP) User ID: 77976075 United States 01/20/2022 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Psalms meditation, Processing/"living out" God's transforming power "warts n all" and praying on Thursday 11/3/22 @ 2:00pm Why i pray. i accidentally just now came across this on Youtube. It's dated 1/13/22. i have no words. THIS is one of the reasons i pray. It's just evil. We are kept "in the dark" as this kind of corrupt blatant evil goes on, unbeknownst to us. It's heartbreaking. "Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing." -Clive James Miss Trump yet? LET IT RAIN. |
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(OP) User ID: 77976075 United States 01/20/2022 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Psalms meditation, Processing/"living out" God's transforming power "warts n all" and praying on Thursday 11/3/22 @ 2:00pm BUMP. Prayers and blessings for 2022. Last Edited by ShiningLightIntoDarkPlaces on 08/28/2022 10:12 AM "Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing." -Clive James Miss Trump yet? LET IT RAIN. |
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(OP) User ID: 77976075 United States 01/20/2022 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Psalms meditation, Processing/"living out" God's transforming power "warts n all" and praying on Thursday 11/3/22 @ 2:00pm BUMP. "Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing." -Clive James Miss Trump yet? LET IT RAIN. |
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(OP) User ID: 77976075 United States 01/20/2022 06:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Psalms meditation, Processing/"living out" God's transforming power "warts n all" and praying on Thursday 11/3/22 @ 2:00pm BUMP. Just a reminder of the promises of God/Healing Scriptures. As the bad news swirls all around us, and as sicknesses seem to be ev'ry where, we can be "anchored" by the promises of God, as an "antidote" to fear, anxiety, hopelessness and despair. "Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing." -Clive James Miss Trump yet? LET IT RAIN. |
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(OP) User ID: 77976075 United States 01/20/2022 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Psalms meditation, Processing/"living out" God's transforming power "warts n all" and praying on Thursday 11/3/22 @ 2:00pm God bless us, ev'ry one "Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing." -Clive James Miss Trump yet? LET IT RAIN. |
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(OP) User ID: 76909376 United States 01/20/2022 08:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Psalms meditation, Processing/"living out" God's transforming power "warts n all" and praying on Thursday 11/3/22 @ 2:00pm Sleep peacefully in the Lord tonight. "He giveth His beloved sleep." -Psalm 127:2 G'nite y'all, God bless us, ev'ry one. Last Edited by ShiningLightIntoDarkPlaces on 01/20/2022 08:22 PM "Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing." -Clive James Miss Trump yet? LET IT RAIN. |
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User ID: 31050932 United States 01/21/2022 04:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Psalms meditation, Processing/"living out" God's transforming power "warts n all" and praying on Thursday 11/3/22 @ 2:00pm Let's gather together, and pray in unison Psalm 109, at 10pm tonight, for protection from our enemies and for God to thwart the plans of our enemies. Quoting: canyouhearmenow? Psalm 109 is a spiritual warfare prayer. David was in dire dire straits when he wrote it and prayed it to God. We can do the same, knowing that our God is a very present HELP in our times of trouble, and we are in dire straits anc in deep trouble right now. God bless us, ev'ry one as we gather fof prayerat 10pm EST tonight and ev'ry night. Thanks for the praise and prayer thread, OP. I made an arrangement of Psalm 109 that I feel will be appropriate for a small group or congregational worship setting. It was taken using Susan Haik Ventura's transcription key to the H-brew cantillation marks. I'll make another version soon with English translation in OpenLP. This version will be good for getting a feel for the melody and practicing the H-brew. May God send blessing this year. In Psalm 109, David is employing a very ancient eastern mode. However, the more somber feel of this mode is expressive of David's theme. Josephus tells us that David composed using 5ths and 4ths on the lyre. Psalm 109 in particular is conducive to 4ths in a choral musical setting. Music during this age was indistinguishable from poetry. So many of the Psalms fit into what we would call 'chant' music today being built from a central melodic theme and then flowering out in progressive circular rounds. It would be good for the church to recapture this spiritual cultural element of what might be called 'prayer song'. It is adapted to meditation in worship. [link to www.bitchute.com (secure)] Last Edited by The_Gardener on 01/21/2022 04:36 AM Who is a liar more than one who denies that Jesus is the Messiah? One who denies the Father and the Son is antichrist. Whosoever denies the Son does not have not the Father, either. - 1 John 2:22-23 Daily Prayer & Scripture Reading [link to www.parishprayer.org (secure)] |
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(OP) User ID: 76749402 United States 01/21/2022 07:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Psalms meditation, Processing/"living out" God's transforming power "warts n all" and praying on Thursday 11/3/22 @ 2:00pm Let's gather together, and pray in unison Psalm 109, at 10pm tonight, for protection from our enemies and for God to thwart the plans of our enemies. Quoting: canyouhearmenow? Psalm 109 is a spiritual warfare prayer. David was in dire dire straits when he wrote it and prayed it to God. We can do the same, knowing that our God is a very present HELP in our times of trouble, and we are in dire straits anc in deep trouble right now. God bless us, ev'ry one as we gather fof prayerat 10pm EST tonight and ev'ry night. Thanks for the praise and prayer thread, OP. I made an arrangement of Psalm 109 that I feel will be appropriate for a small group or congregational worship setting. It was taken using Susan Haik Ventura's transcription key to the H-brew cantillation marks. I'll make another version soon with English translation in OpenLP. This version will be good for getting a feel for the melody and practicing the H-brew. May God send blessing this year. In Psalm 109, David is employing a very ancient eastern mode. However, the more somber feel of this mode is expressive of David's theme. Josephus tells us that David composed using 5ths and 4ths on the lyre. Psalm 109 in particular is conducive to 4ths in a choral musical setting. Music during this age was indistinguishable from poetry. So many of the Psalms fit into what we would call 'chant' music today being built from a central melodic theme and then flowering out in progressive circular rounds. It would be good for the church to recapture this spiritual cultural element of what might be called 'prayer song'. It is adapted to meditation in worship. [link to www.bitchute.com (secure)] Fascinating. Thank you for sharing this. Would you care to offer insight on a verse that intrigues me, and it's related to singing? It's verse Zepheniah 3:17, where it is written that God rejoices over us with singing. Thank you again for your insight into Psalms, and David, and another question that i've wondered about... is "lyre" pronounced "liar"? i've heard it pronounced that way, and i was convinced that it was being pronounced wrong. "Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing." -Clive James Miss Trump yet? LET IT RAIN. |
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User ID: 81296879 China 01/21/2022 07:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Psalms meditation, Processing/"living out" God's transforming power "warts n all" and praying on Thursday 11/3/22 @ 2:00pm For our edification, as we pray against the powers of darkness. May this message encourage us to keep on praying, and to stand against the powers of darkness, and all that hide in that darkness, scheming and doing evil in that darkness. Quoting: canyouhearmenow? God bless us, ev'ry one Amen His light expose them all unto deliverance and salvation in YAHshua/Joshua/Jesus name YAHshua the sound of His Name in English, YAH is short form of YHVH, Bible.PRAYERBOOK.Praisebook DOWNLOADs [link to www.docdroid.net (secure)] [link to pdfhost.io (secure)] [link to www.docdroid.net (secure)] |
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(OP) User ID: 76749402 United States 01/21/2022 08:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Psalms meditation, Processing/"living out" God's transforming power "warts n all" and praying on Thursday 11/3/22 @ 2:00pm For our edification, as we pray against the powers of darkness. May this message encourage us to keep on praying, and to stand against the powers of darkness, and all that hide in that darkness, scheming and doing evil in that darkness. Quoting: canyouhearmenow? God bless us, ev'ry one Amen His light expose them all unto deliverance and salvation in YAHshua/Joshua/Jesus name Praying in agreement, amen. "Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing." -Clive James Miss Trump yet? LET IT RAIN. |
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(OP) User ID: 76749402 United States 01/21/2022 08:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Psalms meditation, Processing/"living out" God's transforming power "warts n all" and praying on Thursday 11/3/22 @ 2:00pm A MORNING PRAYER. praying for each and ev'ry one of us, for our Shepherd to protect us and that we find our safety and refuge in Him. "Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing." -Clive James Miss Trump yet? LET IT RAIN. |
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(OP) User ID: 77463339 United States 01/21/2022 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Psalms meditation, Processing/"living out" God's transforming power "warts n all" and praying on Thursday 11/3/22 @ 2:00pm THE LORD'S PRAYER. As we contemplate and meditate on our Lord and God like David did, this song helps to encourage such meditation and to quietly worship our Lord, for me. i hope it encourages each of you as well. God bless us, ev'ry one. "Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing." -Clive James Miss Trump yet? LET IT RAIN. |
The_Gardener
User ID: 12223699 United States 01/21/2022 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Psalms meditation, Processing/"living out" God's transforming power "warts n all" and praying on Thursday 11/3/22 @ 2:00pm Let's gather together, and pray in unison Psalm 109, at 10pm tonight, for protection from our enemies and for God to thwart the plans of our enemies. Quoting: canyouhearmenow? Psalm 109 is a spiritual warfare prayer. David was in dire dire straits when he wrote it and prayed it to God. We can do the same, knowing that our God is a very present HELP in our times of trouble, and we are in dire straits anc in deep trouble right now. God bless us, ev'ry one as we gather fof prayerat 10pm EST tonight and ev'ry night. Thanks for the praise and prayer thread, OP. I made an arrangement of Psalm 109 that I feel will be appropriate for a small group or congregational worship setting. It was taken using Susan Haik Ventura's transcription key to the H-brew cantillation marks. I'll make another version soon with English translation in OpenLP. This version will be good for getting a feel for the melody and practicing the H-brew. May God send blessing this year. In Psalm 109, David is employing a very ancient eastern mode. However, the more somber feel of this mode is expressive of David's theme. Josephus tells us that David composed using 5ths and 4ths on the lyre. Psalm 109 in particular is conducive to 4ths in a choral musical setting. Music during this age was indistinguishable from poetry. So many of the Psalms fit into what we would call 'chant' music today being built from a central melodic theme and then flowering out in progressive circular rounds. It would be good for the church to recapture this spiritual cultural element of what might be called 'prayer song'. It is adapted to meditation in worship. [link to www.bitchute.com (secure)] Fascinating. Thank you for sharing this. Would you care to offer insight on a verse that intrigues me, and it's related to singing? It's verse Zepheniah 3:17, where it is written that God rejoices over us with singing. Thank you again for your insight into Psalms, and David, and another question that i've wondered about... is "lyre" pronounced "liar"? i've heard it pronounced that way, and i was convinced that it was being pronounced wrong. Yes, it doesn't just go one way. This is the difference in covenant as the bond of life. Covenant involves understanding, love, and reciprocity. We do not worship a tyrant. There is no song or cheer we give back to God that he did not first give to us. His Glory is in understanding his Way. The world does not comprehend covenant. It doesn't experience it. Who is a liar more than one who denies that Jesus is the Messiah? One who denies the Father and the Son is antichrist. Whosoever denies the Son does not have not the Father, either. - 1 John 2:22-23 Daily Prayer & Scripture Reading [link to www.parishprayer.org (secure)] |
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(OP) User ID: 77463339 United States 01/21/2022 01:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Psalms meditation, Processing/"living out" God's transforming power "warts n all" and praying on Thursday 11/3/22 @ 2:00pm Let's gather together, and pray in unison Psalm 109, at 10pm tonight, for protection from our enemies and for God to thwart the plans of our enemies. Quoting: canyouhearmenow? Psalm 109 is a spiritual warfare prayer. David was in dire dire straits when he wrote it and prayed it to God. We can do the same, knowing that our God is a very present HELP in our times of trouble, and we are in dire straits anc in deep trouble right now. God bless us, ev'ry one as we gather fof prayerat 10pm EST tonight and ev'ry night. Thanks for the praise and prayer thread, OP. I made an arrangement of Psalm 109 that I feel will be appropriate for a small group or congregational worship setting. It was taken using Susan Haik Ventura's transcription key to the H-brew cantillation marks. I'll make another version soon with English translation in OpenLP. This version will be good for getting a feel for the melody and practicing the H-brew. May God send blessing this year. In Psalm 109, David is employing a very ancient eastern mode. However, the more somber feel of this mode is expressive of David's theme. Josephus tells us that David composed using 5ths and 4ths on the lyre. Psalm 109 in particular is conducive to 4ths in a choral musical setting. Music during this age was indistinguishable from poetry. So many of the Psalms fit into what we would call 'chant' music today being built from a central melodic theme and then flowering out in progressive circular rounds. It would be good for the church to recapture this spiritual cultural element of what might be called 'prayer song'. It is adapted to meditation in worship. [link to www.bitchute.com (secure)] Fascinating. Thank you for sharing this. Would you care to offer insight on a verse that intrigues me, and it's related to singing? It's verse Zepheniah 3:17, where it is written that God rejoices over us with singing. Thank you again for your insight into Psalms, and David, and another question that i've wondered about... is "lyre" pronounced "liar"? i've heard it pronounced that way, and i was convinced that it was being pronounced wrong. Yes, it doesn't just go one way. This is the difference in covenant as the bond of life. Covenant involves understanding, love, and reciprocity. We do not worship a tyrant. There is no song or cheer we give back to God that he did not first give to us. His Glory is in understanding his Way. The world does not comprehend covenant. It doesn't experience it. Interesting.....what we give back to God is, so to speak, is an "echoe" of what He puts in us in the first place? "Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing." -Clive James Miss Trump yet? LET IT RAIN. |
The_Gardener
User ID: 12223699 United States 01/21/2022 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Psalms meditation, Processing/"living out" God's transforming power "warts n all" and praying on Thursday 11/3/22 @ 2:00pm ... Quoting: The_Gardener Thanks for the praise and prayer thread, OP. I made an arrangement of Psalm 109 that I feel will be appropriate for a small group or congregational worship setting. It was taken using Susan Haik Ventura's transcription key to the H-brew cantillation marks. I'll make another version soon with English translation in OpenLP. This version will be good for getting a feel for the melody and practicing the H-brew. May God send blessing this year. In Psalm 109, David is employing a very ancient eastern mode. However, the more somber feel of this mode is expressive of David's theme. Josephus tells us that David composed using 5ths and 4ths on the lyre. Psalm 109 in particular is conducive to 4ths in a choral musical setting. Music during this age was indistinguishable from poetry. So many of the Psalms fit into what we would call 'chant' music today being built from a central melodic theme and then flowering out in progressive circular rounds. It would be good for the church to recapture this spiritual cultural element of what might be called 'prayer song'. It is adapted to meditation in worship. [link to www.bitchute.com (secure)] Fascinating. Thank you for sharing this. Would you care to offer insight on a verse that intrigues me, and it's related to singing? It's verse Zepheniah 3:17, where it is written that God rejoices over us with singing. Thank you again for your insight into Psalms, and David, and another question that i've wondered about... is "lyre" pronounced "liar"? i've heard it pronounced that way, and i was convinced that it was being pronounced wrong. Yes, it doesn't just go one way. This is the difference in covenant as the bond of life. Covenant involves understanding, love, and reciprocity. We do not worship a tyrant. There is no song or cheer we give back to God that he did not first give to us. His Glory is in understanding his Way. The world does not comprehend covenant. It doesn't experience it. Interesting.....what we give back to God is, so to speak, is an "echoe" of what He puts in us in the first place? Yes, that's a good way to put it. We don't wash one another's feet just to simply feel like slaves. We do so because it echoes God who was in Christ first washing man's feet. Who is a liar more than one who denies that Jesus is the Messiah? One who denies the Father and the Son is antichrist. Whosoever denies the Son does not have not the Father, either. - 1 John 2:22-23 Daily Prayer & Scripture Reading [link to www.parishprayer.org (secure)] |
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(OP) User ID: 77463339 United States 01/21/2022 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Psalms meditation, Processing/"living out" God's transforming power "warts n all" and praying on Thursday 11/3/22 @ 2:00pm ... Quoting: canyouhearmenow? Fascinating. Thank you for sharing this. Would you care to offer insight on a verse that intrigues me, and it's related to singing? It's verse Zepheniah 3:17, where it is written that God rejoices over us with singing. Thank you again for your insight into Psalms, and David, and another question that i've wondered about... is "lyre" pronounced "liar"? i've heard it pronounced that way, and i was convinced that it was being pronounced wrong. Yes, it doesn't just go one way. This is the difference in covenant as the bond of life. Covenant involves understanding, love, and reciprocity. We do not worship a tyrant. There is no song or cheer we give back to God that he did not first give to us. His Glory is in understanding his Way. The world does not comprehend covenant. It doesn't experience it. Interesting.....what we give back to God is, so to speak, is an "echoe" of what He puts in us in the first place? Yes, that's a good way to put it. We don't wash one another's feet just to simply feel like slaves. We do so because it echoes God who was in Christ first washing man's feet. That's profound. It would be an excellent study. Most would object because they would feel like a slave, and thus humiliated to do so. "Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing." -Clive James Miss Trump yet? LET IT RAIN. |
The_Gardener
User ID: 12223699 United States 01/21/2022 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Psalms meditation, Processing/"living out" God's transforming power "warts n all" and praying on Thursday 11/3/22 @ 2:00pm Everyone likes to cheer in life and be happy, but is there room in our Psalms to God for life's unhappier days? There certainly is. When I first explored the Cantillation marks of Psalm 109, the music immediately lended itself to choral 4ths. There is a certain amount of dissonance and tension throughout the chant. It's not one of the prettier Psalms. It's dissonant, tense, maybe even angry and exasperated at times. I don't want to change that. I want to let the Psalm give full expression to those feelings and the reasons behind them. Working them out in a platform of prayer song is a way to release them to God. I understand now why Spurgeon pretty much got lost in the Psalms the older he got. He was a minister and had other studies and duties, but everyone knew that any chance he got he would slip off to his study and dive back into the Psalms. Last Edited by The_Gardener on 01/21/2022 02:11 PM Who is a liar more than one who denies that Jesus is the Messiah? One who denies the Father and the Son is antichrist. Whosoever denies the Son does not have not the Father, either. - 1 John 2:22-23 Daily Prayer & Scripture Reading [link to www.parishprayer.org (secure)] |
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(OP) User ID: 77463339 United States 01/21/2022 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Psalms meditation, Processing/"living out" God's transforming power "warts n all" and praying on Thursday 11/3/22 @ 2:00pm Everyone likes to cheer in life and be happy, but is there room in our Psalms to God for life's unhappier days? There certainly is. Quoting: The_Gardener When I first explored the Cantillation marks of Psalm 109, the music immediately lended itself to choral 4ths. There is a certain amount of dissonance and tension throughout the chant. It's not one of the prettier Psalms. It's dissonant, tense, maybe even angry and exasperated at times. I don't want to change that. I want to let the Psalm give full expression to those feelings and the reasons behind them. Working them out in a platform of prayer song is a way to release them to God. i agree. David was in a very dark and desperately despairing place. He poured out his soul to God just as it was. As i think on it, so did Jesus, on the cross. i wonder what that would sound like, if it was set to music? "Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing." -Clive James Miss Trump yet? LET IT RAIN. |
The_Gardener
User ID: 12223699 United States 01/21/2022 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Psalms meditation, Processing/"living out" God's transforming power "warts n all" and praying on Thursday 11/3/22 @ 2:00pm Everyone likes to cheer in life and be happy, but is there room in our Psalms to God for life's unhappier days? There certainly is. Quoting: The_Gardener When I first explored the Cantillation marks of Psalm 109, the music immediately lended itself to choral 4ths. There is a certain amount of dissonance and tension throughout the chant. It's not one of the prettier Psalms. It's dissonant, tense, maybe even angry and exasperated at times. I don't want to change that. I want to let the Psalm give full expression to those feelings and the reasons behind them. Working them out in a platform of prayer song is a way to release them to God. i agree. David was in a very dark and desperately despairing place. He poured out his soul to God just as it was. As i think on it, so did Jesus, on the cross. i wonder what that would sound like, if it was set to music? They would sound the same. David's themes were simply the foreshadowing of Christ. We'll work through some of the other Psalms. In all of them, the chants of Messiah are heard. Who is a liar more than one who denies that Jesus is the Messiah? One who denies the Father and the Son is antichrist. Whosoever denies the Son does not have not the Father, either. - 1 John 2:22-23 Daily Prayer & Scripture Reading [link to www.parishprayer.org (secure)] |
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(OP) User ID: 77463339 United States 01/21/2022 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Psalms meditation, Processing/"living out" God's transforming power "warts n all" and praying on Thursday 11/3/22 @ 2:00pm Everyone likes to cheer in life and be happy, but is there room in our Psalms to God for life's unhappier days? There certainly is. Quoting: The_Gardener When I first explored the Cantillation marks of Psalm 109, the music immediately lended itself to choral 4ths. There is a certain amount of dissonance and tension throughout the chant. It's not one of the prettier Psalms. It's dissonant, tense, maybe even angry and exasperated at times. I don't want to change that. I want to let the Psalm give full expression to those feelings and the reasons behind them. Working them out in a platform of prayer song is a way to release them to God. i agree. David was in a very dark and desperately despairing place. He poured out his soul to God just as it was. As i think on it, so did Jesus, on the cross. i wonder what that would sound like, if it was set to music? They would sound the same. David's themes were simply the foreshadowing of Christ. We'll work through some of the other Psalms. In all of them, the chants of Messiah are heard. Job also comes to mind. "Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing." -Clive James Miss Trump yet? LET IT RAIN. |
The_Gardener
User ID: 31050932 United States 01/21/2022 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Psalms meditation, Processing/"living out" God's transforming power "warts n all" and praying on Thursday 11/3/22 @ 2:00pm When the Psalms begin with the headline "To the Chief Musician", it is a formal and royal license for the chironomy director to conduct this piece (at that time to be overseen by the Levities and the sons of Korah who held a special musical ministry position in the temple. How old the cantillation points in Leningrad and Aleppo codices are is anyone's guess. All we can say is that Susan Haik Ventura demonstrated that they are older than the Tiberian system. My personal belief is that they are indeed the veritable chironomy signs as passed down from the 2nd Temple tradition and go all the way back to King David. The Director (Natzach) would sign the entire piece to the choir by various handsigns. A competent choir could learn and perform a new piece just by following the lead of the Natzach. This tradition of chironomy is still practiced in some Judaic communities and in some oriental churches, although with changes from the original psalmic system of the Bible. https://imgur.com/a/81zMmLA Last Edited by The_Gardener on 01/21/2022 03:16 PM Who is a liar more than one who denies that Jesus is the Messiah? One who denies the Father and the Son is antichrist. Whosoever denies the Son does not have not the Father, either. - 1 John 2:22-23 Daily Prayer & Scripture Reading [link to www.parishprayer.org (secure)] |
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(OP) User ID: 77463339 United States 01/21/2022 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Psalms meditation, Processing/"living out" God's transforming power "warts n all" and praying on Thursday 11/3/22 @ 2:00pm When the Psalms begin with the headline "To the Chief Musician", it is a formal and royal license for the chironomy director to conduct this piece (at that time to be overseen by the Levities and the sons of Korah who held a special musical ministry position in the temple. How old the cantillation points in Leningrad and Aleppo codices are is anyone's guess. All we can say is that Susan Haik Ventura demonstrated that they are older than the Tiberian system. My personal belief is that they are indeed the veritable chironomy signs as passed down from the 2nd Temple tradition and go all the way back to King David. Quoting: The_Gardener The Director (Natzach) would sign the entire piece to the choir by various handsigns. A competent choir could learn and perform a new piece just by following the lead of the Natzach. This tradition of chironomy is still practiced in some Judaic communities and in some oriental churches, although with changes from the original psalmic system of the Bible. https://imgur.com/a/81zMmLA Was it similar when David danced before the Lord with all His might? On another note, why did David do that? "Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing." -Clive James Miss Trump yet? LET IT RAIN. |
The_Gardener
User ID: 31050932 United States 01/21/2022 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Psalms meditation, Processing/"living out" God's transforming power "warts n all" and praying on Thursday 11/3/22 @ 2:00pm When the Psalms begin with the headline "To the Chief Musician", it is a formal and royal license for the chironomy director to conduct this piece (at that time to be overseen by the Levities and the sons of Korah who held a special musical ministry position in the temple. How old the cantillation points in Leningrad and Aleppo codices are is anyone's guess. All we can say is that Susan Haik Ventura demonstrated that they are older than the Tiberian system. My personal belief is that they are indeed the veritable chironomy signs as passed down from the 2nd Temple tradition and go all the way back to King David. Quoting: The_Gardener The Director (Natzach) would sign the entire piece to the choir by various handsigns. A competent choir could learn and perform a new piece just by following the lead of the Natzach. This tradition of chironomy is still practiced in some Judaic communities and in some oriental churches, although with changes from the original psalmic system of the Bible. https://imgur.com/a/81zMmLA Was it similar when David danced before the Lord with all His might? On another note, why did David do that? As far as the fertility dance is concerned, it was important as a demonstration that IHVH was the fountain source of fertility for Israel, and not Baal. Even David's flaky wife missed the point of David's fertility spiral dance around the ark and accused him of acting like a profane heathen. Who is a liar more than one who denies that Jesus is the Messiah? One who denies the Father and the Son is antichrist. Whosoever denies the Son does not have not the Father, either. - 1 John 2:22-23 Daily Prayer & Scripture Reading [link to www.parishprayer.org (secure)] |
canyouhearmenow?
(OP) User ID: 77463339 United States 01/21/2022 03:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Psalms meditation, Processing/"living out" God's transforming power "warts n all" and praying on Thursday 11/3/22 @ 2:00pm When the Psalms begin with the headline "To the Chief Musician", it is a formal and royal license for the chironomy director to conduct this piece (at that time to be overseen by the Levities and the sons of Korah who held a special musical ministry position in the temple. How old the cantillation points in Leningrad and Aleppo codices are is anyone's guess. All we can say is that Susan Haik Ventura demonstrated that they are older than the Tiberian system. My personal belief is that they are indeed the veritable chironomy signs as passed down from the 2nd Temple tradition and go all the way back to King David. Quoting: The_Gardener The Director (Natzach) would sign the entire piece to the choir by various handsigns. A competent choir could learn and perform a new piece just by following the lead of the Natzach. This tradition of chironomy is still practiced in some Judaic communities and in some oriental churches, although with changes from the original psalmic system of the Bible. https://imgur.com/a/81zMmLA Was it similar when David danced before the Lord with all His might? On another note, why did David do that? As far as the fertility dance is concerned, it was important as a demonstration that IHVH was the fountain source of fertility for Israel, and not Baal. Even David's flaky wife missed the point of David's fertility spiral dance around the ark and accused him of acting like a profane heathen. Was it a fertility dance, or was it an exuberant outpouring of his love for God because he could not contain it? Was it an expression of his utter joy, and a form of worship? "Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing." -Clive James Miss Trump yet? LET IT RAIN. |