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Where did you study medicine and ethics?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2272340


I studied biology at university, spent a dozen years as a scientist

Ethics are for the individual, I am a Christian and have my ethics grounded in spirituality

Plus, it doesn’t take either to follow the money
 Quoting: IChoose


I disagree.

Medical ethics are for the greater good.

Do you think people join medical fields for money? Power?

12 years as a "scientist"? I'm not saying I don't believe you but, I'd like to know the exact area of study.

I worked "near" a psychologist at Harvard University (I was in engineering, he was in the labs) who believed in "Chemtrails" (which is the subject that introduced me to this site) and his belief was that, since he did his research to become the man he is today, that he understands everything about science. I disagree.

Science is divided up in many ways. Everyone has a role, and understanding of specific tasks and the entire entity works together to a goal. To suggest that they are all in it for money/power, and not the science, is kind of odd.

If you worked in science for those 12 years, and it was a reputable place, you KNOW that it is the SCIENCE that guides the work. Not politics, not governments, not HR...

Being a "Christian" is irrelevant to the discussion, and may actually allow some to discredit you for mixing science and religion together. They CAN coexist. But, it was an odd comment when discussing the ethics of the profession, not the ethics of the individual. Individuals have stories and backgrounds that shape their beliefs, but they are still held at a standard by the industry they are employed at. Many people have lost their ability to work in the medical field based on their individual ethics. Some have gone to prison for murder! Some have been executed.

I don't put much faith in the ethics/morals of the individual, considering the amount of hate in this world.
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My scientific study was in homarus americanus though to be honest it was a population dynamics study and entailed mostly field work and data anlysis, statistics on CPUE and making predictions on them.

I really don’t care if I’m discredited, I am merely making my opinion and am curious as to others. I most definitely feel this is both a temporal as well as a spiritual issue, hence the need for ethics in deciding what I perceive as a viable and ethical solution

To me it comes to free will trumping the greater good

If that means I am ostracized then it’s a decision I make

The body either from a Creator or from evolution and survival of the Fittest is highly evolved and thus far survived millennia without the need for human interference in the gene. Modification of any type is an abomination f gods holy temple, thereby a religious exemption should be allowed simply for a virus with a 99.79 percent recovery rate
 Quoting: IChoose


I guess that, as long as I see it's presented AS opinion, and not as fact, I have no issue. But, many people have an inability to filter/differentiate between the two, and LITERALLY believe everything they read, and reject ANYTHING said against it, from that second on. Does that seem healthy?

You don't want greater good AND fee-will based on the science that proves it's best FOR the greater good?

The preamble says "Promote the general welfare". I think that is exactly what is, and has been occurring.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Our bodies are still evolving, just like the virus is. It's a competition. As the viruses mutate into something our bodies wonderful and powerful immune system has never encountered, we have problems.

The SPECIES has survived.

I agree with the importance and relevance of the stat at the end, and I think you really should be honest with yourself about your ability to see the big picture.

That statistic is disgusting, not through opinion, but in practice. Considering how that number could so easily change, as the days progress and the virus mutates, is sad and scary, in my opinion. I think it's immature, irrelevant and extremely short sighted, without consideration of the true facts, as understood by so many. But, so misrepresented online.

Sigh...

Have a wonderful New Year.
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One study doesn't change science.

There are variables within the study that have to be understood and securitized.

It's not being a "shill" to point out that MAYBE people on these forums overvalue their understanding of these subjects.

in fact, I think that should be the default position.

Reputation in medicine matters. So does the ability to recognize when something is off about certain "Doctors" and their positions.

NO ONE has discredited the study.

There is no deflection. There are just the questions we SHOULD be asking about these people! We SHOULD be asking such questions about ALL Of those who influence our lives!
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Me thinks thou doth protest too much.

shill
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Of course you do.

It couldn't be that I'm someone who cares about my fellow man and has a different perspective based on a different background?

Are you always so suspicious and accusatory?
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stfu
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That is incredibly profound. I hadn't thought of that.

You must be a genius.
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I studied biology at university, spent a dozen years as a scientist

Ethics are for the individual, I am a Christian and have my ethics grounded in spirituality

Plus, it doesn’t take either to follow the money
 Quoting: IChoose


I disagree.

Medical ethics are for the greater good.

Do you think people join medical fields for money? Power?

12 years as a "scientist"? I'm not saying I don't believe you but, I'd like to know the exact area of study.

I worked "near" a psychologist at Harvard University (I was in engineering, he was in the labs) who believed in "Chemtrails" (which is the subject that introduced me to this site) and his belief was that, since he did his research to become the man he is today, that he understands everything about science. I disagree.

Science is divided up in many ways. Everyone has a role, and understanding of specific tasks and the entire entity works together to a goal. To suggest that they are all in it for money/power, and not the science, is kind of odd.

If you worked in science for those 12 years, and it was a reputable place, you KNOW that it is the SCIENCE that guides the work. Not politics, not governments, not HR...

Being a "Christian" is irrelevant to the discussion, and may actually allow some to discredit you for mixing science and religion together. They CAN coexist. But, it was an odd comment when discussing the ethics of the profession, not the ethics of the individual. Individuals have stories and backgrounds that shape their beliefs, but they are still held at a standard by the industry they are employed at. Many people have lost their ability to work in the medical field based on their individual ethics. Some have gone to prison for murder! Some have been executed.

I don't put much faith in the ethics/morals of the individual, considering the amount of hate in this world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2272340


My scientific study was in homarus americanus though to be honest it was a population dynamics study and entailed mostly field work and data anlysis, statistics on CPUE and making predictions on them.

I really don’t care if I’m discredited, I am merely making my opinion and am curious as to others. I most definitely feel this is both a temporal as well as a spiritual issue, hence the need for ethics in deciding what I perceive as a viable and ethical solution

To me it comes to free will trumping the greater good

If that means I am ostracized then it’s a decision I make

The body either from a Creator or from evolution and survival of the Fittest is highly evolved and thus far survived millennia without the need for human interference in the gene. Modification of any type is an abomination f gods holy temple, thereby a religious exemption should be allowed simply for a virus with a 99.79 percent recovery rate
 Quoting: IChoose


I guess that, as long as I see it's presented AS opinion, and not as fact, I have no issue. But, many people have an inability to filter/differentiate between the two, and LITERALLY believe everything they read, and reject ANYTHING said against it, from that second on. Does that seem healthy?

You don't want greater good AND fee-will based on the science that proves it's best FOR the greater good?

The preamble says "Promote the general welfare". I think that is exactly what is, and has been occurring.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Our bodies are still evolving, just like the virus is. It's a competition. As the viruses mutate into something our bodies wonderful and powerful immune system has never encountered, we have problems.

The SPECIES has survived.

I DISagree with the importance and relevance of the stat at the end, and I think you really should be honest with yourself about your ability to see the big picture.

That statistic is disgusting, not through opinion, but in practice. Considering how that number could so easily change, as the days progress and the virus mutates, is sad and scary, in my opinion. I think it's immature, irrelevant and extremely short sighted, without consideration of the true facts, as understood by so many. But, so misrepresented online.

Sigh...

Have a wonderful New Year.
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Sorry, had to correct that!
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How so? You appear to have agreed with the Twatter post. If I’m missing something, please elaborate. And if I’ve misinterpreted you’re comments, I apologize - but I am scratching my head a bit. So, help me out…
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" To actually think that any government has your best interests in mind "

I would never assume anything so stupid.

But, this isn't about government, this is about health.

I am able to separate the two entities by what their responsibilities are during pandemics, and such.

I disagree with the rest of the post, also. I don't see things like that, at all.

I do not see the pandemic as intentional or as any effort to kill anyone in particular.

I see it as an inevitable situation that science has seen coming for several decades. There will be more of them, if we get through this one.

Again, to claim that I trust government because I trust the government appointed science spokesman, is quite silly, in my opinion.

I also disagree with the part about "big phamra" and their goals and ambitions for society. Would you rather it be a non-profit government entity?

What is wrong with making money for business investors? So much money has been poured INTO "big pharma", because it is important to develop the drugs people need. Yes, it is a huge, and influential mega-entity...but, ask yourself which people run/invest in them. Follow the money, as they say.

Greed IS a huge problem in this country. But, so are lies, distrust, and false witness.

I think people often miscalculate their expertise about many subjects, and then demonize people they know NOTHING about.

And that is sad.
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I agree with some of your post (particularly regarding profit driven business, but not to the extent it becomes so large it heavily influences government decisions - corporate fascism never works in a free society and ALWAYS devolves into something much worse); however, the sad part is that you fail to see the larger picture, in that the demonization of people is the starting point of the “much worse” part and it is rampant today, but not in the way you infer.

Case in point - Dr John Ioannidis of Stanford, considered by many to be The Godfather of epidemiological and evidence based clinical research (more published than just about anyone in the field) being lauded appropriately throughout his long career, but suddenly becoming a “misguided doofus conspiracy theorist” by our mainstream news and publications when he speaks out against the narrative you appear to adhere to. He is one of many, but if you do a bit of research you will see that I am correct.

This is called propaganda pure and simple. Textbook actually. It has been underway for many years in our mainstream though, which is why many don’t see it; however, many here have made the study of same almost a lifelong work. As such, the intent behind it, how it is carried out and why, and the final end results are abundantly clear to many of us.

You also seem to infer that anyone beyond the pharmaceutical industry spokespeople and/or public health officials have no valid opinion because they lack the expertise to understand the subject matter. That is a closed minded delusion of those that have been successfully programmed into “doing and/or believing what they’re told” by their favorite teevee character.

Many here actually do have that expertise, and others have the intelligence level to fully (or at least sufficiently) grasp the subject matter, so never assume that just because the teevee says the opposite, or some editor with an agenda says it ain’t so, that it’s the truth. And that’s a fact.

Guessing I will not change your opinion on this, but if you were to challenge your induced bias (as many here have over the years) by actually researching the counter narrative and WHO is offering it (as well as WHO is truly behind the opposing one), I’m guessing you might actually begin to think a bit differently.

In fact, that’s the only way, but I get it. It is much easier and less painful to simply accept and trust what we are told - until it’s not. I only hope we can all recognize the danger we are in as a free society before it is too late, because if we don’t, it really won’t matter who was right or wrong.
 Quoting: SaveUSa


You are mischaracterizing me, again. Neaten it up a bit, please!

Do you know EVERYTHING about Dr John Ioannidis and what is occurring behind the scenes?

I never claimed people couldn't have opinions. I guess what I'm saying is that opinions are JUST that. But, it's difficult to judge in writing, but it seems that people are using opinions, AS facts.

I have no idea what you are referring to about closed minded and teevee characters.

What bias is that that I have? That I don't accept information unless I have properly vetted it against expertise in the exacts areas of study? Guilty as charged! I DO research the counter narrative! Why do you think I start here, with my obvious inability to accept conspiracy theories as truth, automatically?! I look into all things, from as many angles as I can, if I feel deeply about the subject. Like any normal (in my opinion) person should do. I don't simply accept ANYTHING I see, from any source. But, I don't consider the source, and it's history, as I use it to collect research.

I don't "simply trust what I'm told". Again, I use history of the field, not politics and propaganda, to guide me.

Yes, I understand that what you see from those I trust, could be propaganda, and I'm just falling for their ruse, but, the EVIDENCE to support such a stance always has an element of doubt and cheese to it.

Again, reputation and history of the sources guide me. Not anecdotes, false accusations and hate.

If that's wrong, I don't want to be right.



Anything wrong with any of that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2272340

Nope. We are aligned then in that regard, but your commentary above this post appears to align very closely to the public (opinion as fact) narrative that many of us here refute. Also based on many hours of study, analysis, etc. I get it that there are thousands of studies out there, and that you can likely point to as many as I can to support your current positions, but the totality of evidence outside of the “science” behind this pandemic leads many of us here to conclude that there is much more afoot than a “benevolent (over) reaction” to a new pathogen. One that is nowhere near as dangerous as originally thought. In my opinion of course.

But then, that’s science isn’t it?

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The vaxed are sick all the time now I notice
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it's cold and flu season.
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It's not always colds and flu that they're sick with. Many people have been experiencing strange symptoms all over their bodies since receiving the shots.

Strokes, clots, heart attacks, etc. Those are not normally cold and flu related symptoms.

And many of the people who ARE having cold and flu symptoms, have received at least 3 covid shots and their flu jab for the season.

Yet they are getting this crap and having the hardest time getting over it.

That is evidence of a destroyed immune system.

They will find it harder and harder to recover from illnesses and diseases (they once could have fought naturally), as time progresses. It's not going to get better for them, but worse. All because of the shots.

The real kicker in all of this- vaccines are rarely spot on and don't actually protect against the offending variant from year to year anyway, because scientists don't know which variants are going to be dominant. So they're basically guessing every season.

If you're OK with all of this and you 'trust the science' and your God Fauci, then by all means, go get your shots.

Get 100 of them; we don't really care. Just don't force it on the rest of us.

May 2022 bring you resolve to stop spreading YOUR incessant propaganda and ignorance.

Happy New Year!
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ADE is antibody Dependant Enhancement
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ADE AND AIDS IS THE SAME RESULT OF THEIR PLANS TO MURDER
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The ADE-pocalypse is here. Vaxtards are going to get decimated.

Seems like this might be a huge miscalculation. Instead of the majority of humanity getting slaughtered only the tards will be
Sic Semper Tyrannis.

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I disagree.

Medical ethics are for the greater good.

Do you think people join medical fields for money? Power?

12 years as a "scientist"? I'm not saying I don't believe you but, I'd like to know the exact area of study.

I worked "near" a psychologist at Harvard University (I was in engineering, he was in the labs) who believed in "Chemtrails" (which is the subject that introduced me to this site) and his belief was that, since he did his research to become the man he is today, that he understands everything about science. I disagree.

Science is divided up in many ways. Everyone has a role, and understanding of specific tasks and the entire entity works together to a goal. To suggest that they are all in it for money/power, and not the science, is kind of odd.

If you worked in science for those 12 years, and it was a reputable place, you KNOW that it is the SCIENCE that guides the work. Not politics, not governments, not HR...

Being a "Christian" is irrelevant to the discussion, and may actually allow some to discredit you for mixing science and religion together. They CAN coexist. But, it was an odd comment when discussing the ethics of the profession, not the ethics of the individual. Individuals have stories and backgrounds that shape their beliefs, but they are still held at a standard by the industry they are employed at. Many people have lost their ability to work in the medical field based on their individual ethics. Some have gone to prison for murder! Some have been executed.

I don't put much faith in the ethics/morals of the individual, considering the amount of hate in this world.
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My scientific study was in homarus americanus though to be honest it was a population dynamics study and entailed mostly field work and data anlysis, statistics on CPUE and making predictions on them.

I really don’t care if I’m discredited, I am merely making my opinion and am curious as to others. I most definitely feel this is both a temporal as well as a spiritual issue, hence the need for ethics in deciding what I perceive as a viable and ethical solution

To me it comes to free will trumping the greater good

If that means I am ostracized then it’s a decision I make

The body either from a Creator or from evolution and survival of the Fittest is highly evolved and thus far survived millennia without the need for human interference in the gene. Modification of any type is an abomination f gods holy temple, thereby a religious exemption should be allowed simply for a virus with a 99.79 percent recovery rate
 Quoting: IChoose


I guess that, as long as I see it's presented AS opinion, and not as fact, I have no issue. But, many people have an inability to filter/differentiate between the two, and LITERALLY believe everything they read, and reject ANYTHING said against it, from that second on. Does that seem healthy?

You don't want greater good AND fee-will based on the science that proves it's best FOR the greater good?

The preamble says "Promote the general welfare". I think that is exactly what is, and has been occurring.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Our bodies are still evolving, just like the virus is. It's a competition. As the viruses mutate into something our bodies wonderful and powerful immune system has never encountered, we have problems.

The SPECIES has survived.

I DISagree with the importance and relevance of the stat at the end, and I think you really should be honest with yourself about your ability to see the big picture.

That statistic is disgusting, not through opinion, but in practice. Considering how that number could so easily change, as the days progress and the virus mutates, is sad and scary, in my opinion. I think it's immature, irrelevant and extremely short sighted, without consideration of the true facts, as understood by so many. But, so misrepresented online.

Sigh...

Have a wonderful New Year.
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Sorry, had to correct that!
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I did my own research and I will not put my faith in a man who sponsored GAIN OF FUNCTION RESEARCH, first here for our military, then in China for the CCP and the depopulation guru, Bill Gates. These people have told us to our face what they intend to do to us for many years.

How anybody can believe Fauci I can't understand. He makes it up depending on how he feels that day. The millions of illegals don't have to be vaccinated, but those with natural immunity and those allergic to the shots do.

Don't use HCQ or Ivermectin, which are known safe drugs, but use Remdemisvir, which is known to cause organ damage, and failed in Ebola and AIDS trials. Also failed against Covid in real clinical trials.

Yeah, keep believing in the fraud and his big pharma and depopulation friends.
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"Gain of function" is a specific term, with a specific meaning and specific criteria have to be met, and Rand Paul doesn't understand that. Fauci is NOT guilty of any such thing and your "research" betrays you, as much as it betrays Rand Paul.

People BELIEVE that they know how to properly research and that they have all the information necessary to come to the proper conclusion, when they absolutely, do not.

Also, Fauci is the spokesman for literally hundreds of thousands of scientists working on these problems. He doesn't claim or pretend to be the source of all the knowledge, and I can't understand why he is such a target for so many.

He is a genius and a humanitarian and people with a LOT fewer qualities are damaging this great man's legacy. It's appalling, and ignorant.

Obviously, you and I will disagree on this. And I'm OK with that.

Happy New Year!
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Hi Anthony.
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Hi,

I take that as a compliment, considering the facts.

Thank you, and have a great New Year!
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You must have missed the clearly stunning admission by the NIH that Fauci did, in fact, participate in gain of function research at the Wuhan lab, and that that research was funded by United States taxpayers.

This was in absolute contradiction to testimony provided by Fauci to Congress. In other words, your God Fauci lied.

A bit behind on your own research?
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Why cant they make a vaxx that does something useful like bigger boobs. On women.
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SO ARE YOU SAYING...

CAN NOT FUCK THE HOT BLONDE ANYMORE, SHE HAS THE VAIDS?

JUST LIKE MAURY IN SPOKANE WASHINGTON, GOT FAT AS A WHALE, SPREADS THE HERPES AND IS A VAXX-TARD, MEANING SHE SPREADS THE VAIDS, TOO!
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Just came across an interesting research, will copy and paste and excerpt within the allowance:

"Vaccine Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome (VAIDS): 'We should anticipate seeing this immune erosion more widely'

'If immune erosion occurs after two doses and just a few months, how can we exclude the possibility that effects of an untested "booster" will not erode more rapidly and to a greater extent?'"

Source link: [link to americasfrontlinedoctors.org (secure)]

Thank you !

Merry Christmas and God bless you all hf
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Look.....last yr when they vaxd Oz some 1200 ppl reportedly got hiv/aids. They called us conspiracy theorists. Last summer as reports came in by the hundreds....they couldn't hide it anymore so the fakenews propaganda arm reported it with word salad.

ADE. Antibody Deficient Enhancement.

Thats fkn aids when u got no immune system!!

Anons knew. We all knew. These fukkers will answer to these crimes against humanity.
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Da Vin CI
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This is just a small story/example of what I’ve seen. (I have many stories.)
Two female co-workers got vaxxed at the same time. One 19. One early 50’s. Within 5 months, 19yo developed appendicitis & was hospitalized for over a week with intestinal infection. Thought that was the end of it. Then about a month later, same thing happened to other co-worker.
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" To actually think that any government has your best interests in mind "

I would never assume anything so stupid.

But, this isn't about government, this is about health.

I am able to separate the two entities by what their responsibilities are during pandemics, and such.

I disagree with the rest of the post, also. I don't see things like that, at all.

I do not see the pandemic as intentional or as any effort to kill anyone in particular.

I see it as an inevitable situation that science has seen coming for several decades. There will be more of them, if we get through this one.

Again, to claim that I trust government because I trust the government appointed science spokesman, is quite silly, in my opinion.

I also disagree with the part about "big phamra" and their goals and ambitions for society. Would you rather it be a non-profit government entity?

What is wrong with making money for business investors? So much money has been poured INTO "big pharma", because it is important to develop the drugs people need. Yes, it is a huge, and influential mega-entity...but, ask yourself which people run/invest in them. Follow the money, as they say.

Greed IS a huge problem in this country. But, so are lies, distrust, and false witness.

I think people often miscalculate their expertise about many subjects, and then demonize people they know NOTHING about.

And that is sad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2272340


I agree with some of your post (particularly regarding profit driven business, but not to the extent it becomes so large it heavily influences government decisions - corporate fascism never works in a free society and ALWAYS devolves into something much worse); however, the sad part is that you fail to see the larger picture, in that the demonization of people is the starting point of the “much worse” part and it is rampant today, but not in the way you infer.

Case in point - Dr John Ioannidis of Stanford, considered by many to be The Godfather of epidemiological and evidence based clinical research (more published than just about anyone in the field) being lauded appropriately throughout his long career, but suddenly becoming a “misguided doofus conspiracy theorist” by our mainstream news and publications when he speaks out against the narrative you appear to adhere to. He is one of many, but if you do a bit of research you will see that I am correct.

This is called propaganda pure and simple. Textbook actually. It has been underway for many years in our mainstream though, which is why many don’t see it; however, many here have made the study of same almost a lifelong work. As such, the intent behind it, how it is carried out and why, and the final end results are abundantly clear to many of us.

You also seem to infer that anyone beyond the pharmaceutical industry spokespeople and/or public health officials have no valid opinion because they lack the expertise to understand the subject matter. That is a closed minded delusion of those that have been successfully programmed into “doing and/or believing what they’re told” by their favorite teevee character.

Many here actually do have that expertise, and others have the intelligence level to fully (or at least sufficiently) grasp the subject matter, so never assume that just because the teevee says the opposite, or some editor with an agenda says it ain’t so, that it’s the truth. And that’s a fact.

Guessing I will not change your opinion on this, but if you were to challenge your induced bias (as many here have over the years) by actually researching the counter narrative and WHO is offering it (as well as WHO is truly behind the opposing one), I’m guessing you might actually begin to think a bit differently.

In fact, that’s the only way, but I get it. It is much easier and less painful to simply accept and trust what we are told - until it’s not. I only hope we can all recognize the danger we are in as a free society before it is too late, because if we don’t, it really won’t matter who was right or wrong.
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You are mischaracterizing me, again. Neaten it up a bit, please!

Do you know EVERYTHING about Dr John Ioannidis and what is occurring behind the scenes?

I never claimed people couldn't have opinions. I guess what I'm saying is that opinions are JUST that. But, it's difficult to judge in writing, but it seems that people are using opinions, AS facts.

I have no idea what you are referring to about closed minded and teevee characters.

What bias is that that I have? That I don't accept information unless I have properly vetted it against expertise in the exacts areas of study? Guilty as charged! I DO research the counter narrative! Why do you think I start here, with my obvious inability to accept conspiracy theories as truth, automatically?! I look into all things, from as many angles as I can, if I feel deeply about the subject. Like any normal (in my opinion) person should do. I don't simply accept ANYTHING I see, from any source. But, I don't consider the source, and it's history, as I use it to collect research.

I don't "simply trust what I'm told". Again, I use history of the field, not politics and propaganda, to guide me.

Yes, I understand that what you see from those I trust, could be propaganda, and I'm just falling for their ruse, but, the EVIDENCE to support such a stance always has an element of doubt and cheese to it.

Again, reputation and history of the sources guide me. Not anecdotes, false accusations and hate.

If that's wrong, I don't want to be right.



Anything wrong with any of that?
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Nope. We are aligned then in that regard, but your commentary above this post appears to align very closely to the public (opinion as fact) narrative that many of us here refute. Also based on many hours of study, analysis, etc. I get it that there are thousands of studies out there, and that you can likely point to as many as I can to support your current positions, but the totality of evidence outside of the “science” behind this pandemic leads many of us here to conclude that there is much more afoot than a “benevolent (over) reaction” to a new pathogen. One that is nowhere near as dangerous as originally thought. In my opinion of course.

But then, that’s science isn’t it?
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Yes, I know. And I question the validity of that, and the false accusations from so many, against so many, on certain sites.

Am I your "enemy" for believing differently in some way? Am I an opponent? Do you feel the same way about someone who thinks your favorite sandwich, is gross.

What I believe I see is people spreading fear based on a false belief that they understand a LOT more, about MANY subjects, than they actually do. People who are naturally and constantly suspicious of others in MANY areas of their lives.

I'm not calling anyone "stupid" and I have done exactly that in the past, but I have always understood that they are misguided based on assumptions built on top of assumptions. I believe that because I read it with my own eyes, probably hundreds of times a day, and I'm able to compare the information based with that from expertise, quite easily.

I wholeheartedly agree with the conclusions made by Dunning and Kruger. I see it in action, constantly.

I don't think I know everything. I'm TERRIBLE at math! I know this, I can demonstrate it, but I wouldn't go trying to teach others about it.

I do know that so many are dishonest with themselves, and others, when they post statements they mistakenly believe are facts when they are nothing of the sort, when compared to the facts, as accepted by the majority in the fields of study.

If there is science, that is WRONG (and I'm sure there is), science has to be used to refute it. Not opinion, not assumptions or speculation, REAL science performed by people with the right equipment, knowledge and emotional intelligence to perform actual science.

A quick question that requires a yes or no answer, off the top of your head:

No you believe that science regulates itself?

And maybe do some research about the ways it MUST do, exactly that.

I will never understand the anti-science mentality. It's a puzzle to me.
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"Gain of function" is a specific term, with a specific meaning and specific criteria have to be met, and Rand Paul doesn't understand that. Fauci is NOT guilty of any such thing and your "research" betrays you, as much as it betrays Rand Paul.

People BELIEVE that they know how to properly research and that they have all the information necessary to come to the proper conclusion, when they absolutely, do not.

Also, Fauci is the spokesman for literally hundreds of thousands of scientists working on these problems. He doesn't claim or pretend to be the source of all the knowledge, and I can't understand why he is such a target for so many.

He is a genius and a humanitarian and people with a LOT fewer qualities are damaging this great man's legacy. It's appalling, and ignorant.

Obviously, you and I will disagree on this. And I'm OK with that.

Happy New Year!
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Hi Anthony.
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Hi,

I take that as a compliment, considering the facts.

Thank you, and have a great New Year!
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You must have missed the clearly stunning admission by the NIH that Fauci did, in fact, participate in gain of function research at the Wuhan lab, and that that research was funded by United States taxpayers.

This was in absolute contradiction to testimony provided by Fauci to Congress. In other words, your God Fauci lied.

A bit behind on your own research?
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Yes, I must HAVE missed that. I'll look now. Thanks

There are nuances in language that could be missed here, and I'll have to look into it, and the sources. But, if he lied to congress, I have a problem. From what I understand, what Rand Paul was accusing him of, specifically, was based on misinterpretation of documents regarding funding.

Just because funding goes from USA to many "Labs" around the world, to say money was SPECIFICALLY earmarked to fund such research, is a jump. The monies are SUPPOSED to be used for specific research as discussed in the grant. Anyone using the monies illegally on THEIR end, may be more to blame.

He's not my "god".

And I'll determine the value of YOUR "research" (what you saw on YouTube videos/conspiracy sites), soon enough.

Thanks for the info
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yup. If the reprogrammed cells aren't shutting down, i.e.
if they continue creating spike proteins, that's what I'd
expect to see. If that's the case, it will be 7 to 10
years before those cells die out.

So expect a wave of increasing disease for several years,
even if they halted the vaccinations today.
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That's a mighty huge "If"!

Any actual evidence found anywhere? Or, simply hypotheses?
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plenty of evidence on the soccer field and hospitals.

Thread: California nurses report ‘overwhelming’ number of heart attacks, clotting in vaccinated patients

soccer causes at 10x normal, hospital in that article
cites a 5x increase. many similar articles since
oct, usually 5x to 10x increases.
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And you are SURE you understand all the variables associated?

I think a lot of stress has manifested itself in a lot of ways, and stress destroys BOTH the mind and body, very easily, and very quickly.


Again, the science isn't being refuted in these areas.

I can't jump to any conclusions about anecdotal occurrences, and you shouldn't either, in my opinion. Why would you WANT to? It could develop into something else that would be unhealthy. Some people are shut-ins because they question reality, itself, on EVERY level.


We need to be HONEST with ourselves, and understand that there are many types of people out there, and some want to lie to others because they are psychotic, or they are just mischievous or bored. Whatever the reason, the rest of us have to be honest with ourselves about how we accept information from others, and our ability to discern truth from fiction.

I have another conspiracy type theory....

I believe that there could be members of foreign and domestic societies who are on sites like this to guide people into hating others...for whatever sick and sadistic reasons they believe their SPECIFIC agenda should guide others.

I think their targets are a bit gullible and less educated about subject and absorb information from people they are typically influenced through about other subjects.

Am I claiming to be right about everything? Absolutely NOT!
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If this vaccine was birth control would you trust it? if you say no then all your previous posts mean zero. I'm not doom and gloom I can just see the forest for the trees and don't need to dissect all the minute details you obsess on to try and prove you're correct. This shit ain't right
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"Gain of function" is a specific term, with a specific meaning and specific criteria have to be met, and Rand Paul doesn't understand that. Fauci is NOT guilty of any such thing and your "research" betrays you, as much as it betrays Rand Paul.

People BELIEVE that they know how to properly research and that they have all the information necessary to come to the proper conclusion, when they absolutely, do not.

Also, Fauci is the spokesman for literally hundreds of thousands of scientists working on these problems. He doesn't claim or pretend to be the source of all the knowledge, and I can't understand why he is such a target for so many.

He is a genius and a humanitarian and people with a LOT fewer qualities are damaging this great man's legacy. It's appalling, and ignorant.

Obviously, you and I will disagree on this. And I'm OK with that.

Happy New Year!
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Hi Anthony.
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Hi,

I take that as a compliment, considering the facts.

Thank you, and have a great New Year!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2272340


You must have missed the clearly stunning admission by the NIH that Fauci did, in fact, participate in gain of function research at the Wuhan lab, and that that research was funded by United States taxpayers.

This was in absolute contradiction to testimony provided by Fauci to Congress. In other words, your God Fauci lied.

A bit behind on your own research?
 Quoting: Dirck de Noorman


I see...

New York Post opinion pieces and right wing sites that make such claims based on, again, nuance of language and an overall misunderstanding and mistrust of the system. I see nothing directly from NIH.

I found the political nonsense that sparked this BS and I'll trust Fact-Checks analysis of what occured. I have no reason not to.


Again, misinformation about grants, grant use, oversight, and the self-regulation of things many people don't understand, doesn't interest me. The nuance in language is OBVIOUSLY confusing a lot of folks, who are misusing and misunderstanding the jargon, at every turn...and then spreading it to others as truth based on a sad amount of ignorance, they will never admit they have.

People are NOT honest with themselves, and they view of many things. They let anger, ignorance, hysteria and hate pervade every facet of their being, and they pay such a high price.

I couldn't IMAGINE being so hateful and suspicious toward so many people at one time. It must eat people up inside! And to be 100% sure that ones own people want to harm them is, in a word, pathetic and I wouldn't wish such an existence on anyone.

What you call "research" and what I call research, are very different.

I don't think I want to be as "advanced" in your style, as you believe others should be.

Again, ALL people are sometimes dishonest with themselves about their level of knowledge about every subject imaginable.
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My brother, M, was vaxxed and then boosted. He has developed what sounds like a bronchitis cough. He has seen doctors and they cannot figure out what he has. They keep giving him meds but nothing is working. He had never even had a bad cold before this.
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My scientific study was in homarus americanus though to be honest it was a population dynamics study and entailed mostly field work and data anlysis, statistics on CPUE and making predictions on them.

I really don’t care if I’m discredited, I am merely making my opinion and am curious as to others. I most definitely feel this is both a temporal as well as a spiritual issue, hence the need for ethics in deciding what I perceive as a viable and ethical solution

To me it comes to free will trumping the greater good

If that means I am ostracized then it’s a decision I make

The body either from a Creator or from evolution and survival of the Fittest is highly evolved and thus far survived millennia without the need for human interference in the gene. Modification of any type is an abomination f gods holy temple, thereby a religious exemption should be allowed simply for a virus with a 99.79 percent recovery rate
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I guess that, as long as I see it's presented AS opinion, and not as fact, I have no issue. But, many people have an inability to filter/differentiate between the two, and LITERALLY believe everything they read, and reject ANYTHING said against it, from that second on. Does that seem healthy?

You don't want greater good AND fee-will based on the science that proves it's best FOR the greater good?

The preamble says "Promote the general welfare". I think that is exactly what is, and has been occurring.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Our bodies are still evolving, just like the virus is. It's a competition. As the viruses mutate into something our bodies wonderful and powerful immune system has never encountered, we have problems.

The SPECIES has survived.

I DISagree with the importance and relevance of the stat at the end, and I think you really should be honest with yourself about your ability to see the big picture.

That statistic is disgusting, not through opinion, but in practice. Considering how that number could so easily change, as the days progress and the virus mutates, is sad and scary, in my opinion. I think it's immature, irrelevant and extremely short sighted, without consideration of the true facts, as understood by so many. But, so misrepresented online.

Sigh...

Have a wonderful New Year.
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Sorry, had to correct that!
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38 replies

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You must understand Duncan (AC*340) and his traits. This is normal activity for him. Ten years on Chemtrail threads with him, this is the way he is.

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This is just a small story/example of what I’ve seen. (I have many stories.)
Two female co-workers got vaxxed at the same time. One 19. One early 50’s. Within 5 months, 19yo developed appendicitis & was hospitalized for over a week with intestinal infection. Thought that was the end of it. Then about a month later, same thing happened to other co-worker.
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did they get vaccinated from the same batch, i.e. they
both went to some company-sponsored thing, etc..?
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That's a mighty huge "If"!

Any actual evidence found anywhere? Or, simply hypotheses?
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plenty of evidence on the soccer field and hospitals.

Thread: California nurses report ‘overwhelming’ number of heart attacks, clotting in vaccinated patients

soccer causes at 10x normal, hospital in that article
cites a 5x increase. many similar articles since
oct, usually 5x to 10x increases.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77687259


And you are SURE you understand all the variables associated?

I think a lot of stress has manifested itself in a lot of ways, and stress destroys BOTH the mind and body, very easily, and very quickly.


Again, the science isn't being refuted in these areas.

I can't jump to any conclusions about anecdotal occurrences, and you shouldn't either, in my opinion. Why would you WANT to? It could develop into something else that would be unhealthy. Some people are shut-ins because they question reality, itself, on EVERY level.


We need to be HONEST with ourselves, and understand that there are many types of people out there, and some want to lie to others because they are psychotic, or they are just mischievous or bored. Whatever the reason, the rest of us have to be honest with ourselves about how we accept information from others, and our ability to discern truth from fiction.

I have another conspiracy type theory....

I believe that there could be members of foreign and domestic societies who are on sites like this to guide people into hating others...for whatever sick and sadistic reasons they believe their SPECIFIC agenda should guide others.

I think their targets are a bit gullible and less educated about subject and absorb information from people they are typically influenced through about other subjects.

Am I claiming to be right about everything? Absolutely NOT!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2272340


If this vaccine was birth control would you trust it? if you say no then all your previous posts mean zero. I'm not doom and gloom I can just see the forest for the trees and don't need to dissect all the minute details you obsess on to try and prove you're correct. This shit ain't right
 Quoting: Idaho Potato


I do tend to trust science. And I'll bet that many people have as much knowledge about birth control as they do about the vaccine and will continue to make assumptions about the subjects.

I don't use birth control.

And yes, to discuss such subjects intelligently, you SHOULD want to be educated in the details. Again, no one knows everything. Where have I claimed to prove I have been correct about anything? I have made no claims about details of any kind, and am just pointing out that it's OBVIOUS That people who don't study such subjects, love to post their ignorance about the subjects.

What have I "tried to prove" myself correct about? And looking at details isn't "obsession"! Ignoring them is ignorant and lazy!

Which, is kind of my overall point.

I think people need to be honest with themselves about their level of understanding about EVERYTHING!
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I guess that, as long as I see it's presented AS opinion, and not as fact, I have no issue. But, many people have an inability to filter/differentiate between the two, and LITERALLY believe everything they read, and reject ANYTHING said against it, from that second on. Does that seem healthy?

You don't want greater good AND fee-will based on the science that proves it's best FOR the greater good?

The preamble says "Promote the general welfare". I think that is exactly what is, and has been occurring.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Our bodies are still evolving, just like the virus is. It's a competition. As the viruses mutate into something our bodies wonderful and powerful immune system has never encountered, we have problems.

The SPECIES has survived.

I DISagree with the importance and relevance of the stat at the end, and I think you really should be honest with yourself about your ability to see the big picture.

That statistic is disgusting, not through opinion, but in practice. Considering how that number could so easily change, as the days progress and the virus mutates, is sad and scary, in my opinion. I think it's immature, irrelevant and extremely short sighted, without consideration of the true facts, as understood by so many. But, so misrepresented online.

Sigh...

Have a wonderful New Year.
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Sorry, had to correct that!
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38 replies

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You must understand Duncan (AC*340)and his traits. This is normal activity for him. Ten years on Chemtrail threads, this is the way he is.
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Happy New Year!


(to all others)

This person is EXACTLY what I am referring to, in all my posts about people BELIEVING they understand what they obsess about.

He is NOT honest with himself, about his knowledge about anything he (along with his many sock accounts) post online, anything.

A very sad case

The false witness spread by this individual, and others, based on fear, ignorance, distrust and hate, are spreading very quickly, and it is contributing to the destruction of society.

This person stalks me and trolls me, and then reports me all based on a hatred and ignorance, that shouldn't even exist.

The lies this person posts against me, and others are immoral and disgusting. And again, unnecessary. Because this person stalks me about a hoax that ANYONE who studies aviation and basic 7th grade level science, should understand is complete lunacy. He dedicates his life to trying to spread his particular brand of ignorance to others.

And I hope he learns to be more honest with himself in the next year, for his own health and happiness. I forgive him.
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Just came across an interesting research, will copy and paste and excerpt within the allowance:

"Vaccine Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome (VAIDS): 'We should anticipate seeing this immune erosion more widely'

'If immune erosion occurs after two doses and just a few months, how can we exclude the possibility that effects of an untested "booster" will not erode more rapidly and to a greater extent?'"

Source link: [link to americasfrontlinedoctors.org (secure)]

Thank you !

Merry Christmas and God bless you all hf
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Every shot is another step toward destruction of defeating this “virus” and many other diseases and infections with natural human immunity

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My scientific study was in homarus americanus though to be honest it was a population dynamics study and entailed mostly field work and data anlysis, statistics on CPUE and making predictions on them.

I really don’t care if I’m discredited, I am merely making my opinion and am curious as to others. I most definitely feel this is both a temporal as well as a spiritual issue, hence the need for ethics in deciding what I perceive as a viable and ethical solution

To me it comes to free will trumping the greater good

If that means I am ostracized then it’s a decision I make

The body either from a Creator or from evolution and survival of the Fittest is highly evolved and thus far survived millennia without the need for human interference in the gene. Modification of any type is an abomination f gods holy temple, thereby a religious exemption should be allowed simply for a virus with a 99.79 percent recovery rate
 Quoting: IChoose


I guess that, as long as I see it's presented AS opinion, and not as fact, I have no issue. But, many people have an inability to filter/differentiate between the two, and LITERALLY believe everything they read, and reject ANYTHING said against it, from that second on. Does that seem healthy?

You don't want greater good AND fee-will based on the science that proves it's best FOR the greater good?

The preamble says "Promote the general welfare". I think that is exactly what is, and has been occurring.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Our bodies are still evolving, just like the virus is. It's a competition. As the viruses mutate into something our bodies wonderful and powerful immune system has never encountered, we have problems.

The SPECIES has survived.

I DISagree with the importance and relevance of the stat at the end, and I think you really should be honest with yourself about your ability to see the big picture.

That statistic is disgusting, not through opinion, but in practice. Considering how that number could so easily change, as the days progress and the virus mutates, is sad and scary, in my opinion. I think it's immature, irrelevant and extremely short sighted, without consideration of the true facts, as understood by so many. But, so misrepresented online.

Sigh...

Have a wonderful New Year.
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Sorry, had to correct that!
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38 replies

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Why count? And what does it mean when you do?

Be honest with yourself about your obsessions and whiny behaviors when not necessary.

Hmm...

Look inward.

Is there some cap on the number of replies it takes in a normal back and forth within a thread? Could you show me the rules?

Good luck to you.

Happy New Year!
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I guess that, as long as I see it's presented AS opinion, and not as fact, I have no issue. But, many people have an inability to filter/differentiate between the two, and LITERALLY believe everything they read, and reject ANYTHING said against it, from that second on. Does that seem healthy?

You don't want greater good AND fee-will based on the science that proves it's best FOR the greater good?

The preamble says "Promote the general welfare". I think that is exactly what is, and has been occurring.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Our bodies are still evolving, just like the virus is. It's a competition. As the viruses mutate into something our bodies wonderful and powerful immune system has never encountered, we have problems.

The SPECIES has survived.

I DISagree with the importance and relevance of the stat at the end, and I think you really should be honest with yourself about your ability to see the big picture.

That statistic is disgusting, not through opinion, but in practice. Considering how that number could so easily change, as the days progress and the virus mutates, is sad and scary, in my opinion. I think it's immature, irrelevant and extremely short sighted, without consideration of the true facts, as understood by so many. But, so misrepresented online.

Sigh...

Have a wonderful New Year.
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Sorry, had to correct that!
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38 replies

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Why count? And what does it mean when you do?

Be honest with yourself about your obsessions and whiny behaviors when not necessary.

Hmm...

Look inward.

Is there some cap on the number of replies it takes in a normal back and forth within a thread? Could you show me the rules?

Good luck to you.

Happy New Year!
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You've been here long enough to know there isn't.

Duncan, I was not being critical of you. I merely asked for a level of understanding to you're 'enthusiastic' posting. :)

You're New Years resolution 'Love' facade is slipping btw. :)
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Hi Anthony.
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Hi,

I take that as a compliment, considering the facts.

Thank you, and have a great New Year!
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You must have missed the clearly stunning admission by the NIH that Fauci did, in fact, participate in gain of function research at the Wuhan lab, and that that research was funded by United States taxpayers.

This was in absolute contradiction to testimony provided by Fauci to Congress. In other words, your God Fauci lied.

A bit behind on your own research?
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I see...

New York Post opinion pieces and right wing sites that make such claims based on, again, nuance of language and an overall misunderstanding and mistrust of the system. I see nothing directly from NIH.

I found the political nonsense that sparked this BS and I'll trust Fact-Checks analysis of what occured. I have no reason not to.


Again, misinformation about grants, grant use, oversight, and the self-regulation of things many people don't understand, doesn't interest me. The nuance in language is OBVIOUSLY confusing a lot of folks, who are misusing and misunderstanding the jargon, at every turn...and then spreading it to others as truth based on a sad amount of ignorance, they will never admit they have.

People are NOT honest with themselves, and they view of many things. They let anger, ignorance, hysteria and hate pervade every facet of their being, and they pay such a high price.

I couldn't IMAGINE being so hateful and suspicious toward so many people at one time. It must eat people up inside! And to be 100% sure that ones own people want to harm them is, in a word, pathetic and I wouldn't wish such an existence on anyone.

What you call "research" and what I call research, are very different.

I don't think I want to be as "advanced" in your style, as you believe others should be.

Again, ALL people are sometimes dishonest with themselves about their level of knowledge about every subject imaginable.
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Of all of the strawmen you could have possibly chosen to fire back, you chose the New York Post?

Go read the NIH letter directly. It doesn't mention the words "gain of function," but as you stated, the nuance of language is obviously confusing people, yourself included.

I don't rely on information from news reports that are slanted one way or another.

I didn't accept the "vaccination" because a very dear friend of mine owns and operates an mRNA research lab and has been working on an mRNA "vaccine" for AIDS for over 30 years now.

Why isn't this "vaccine" available?

Because it kills everyone who takes it eventually, and they can't seem to figure out why.

So let's just all run out for our spike protein injection and not question a thing, shall we?
Good girls go to heaven ~ Heathen women go wherever the fuck they want
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Sorry, had to correct that!
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Why count? And what does it mean when you do?

Be honest with yourself about your obsessions and whiny behaviors when not necessary.

Hmm...

Look inward.

Is there some cap on the number of replies it takes in a normal back and forth within a thread? Could you show me the rules?

Good luck to you.

Happy New Year!
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You've been here long enough to know there isn't.

Duncan, I was not being critical of you. I merely asked for a level of understanding to you're 'enthusiastic' posting. :)

You're New Years resolution 'Love' facade is slipping btw. :)
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If not, then why would someone count, or bring it up? Because I discuss the points I do? Unpopular people are shunned? Is that how you were raised? It was wrong...

I only know one person named Duncan, from a job I had many years ago. And I'm not him.

Maybe he is your long lost enemy. I, am not.

You are strange.

I love all people, including you. I don't agree with you, about anything we have discussed.

No facade. Again, you mischaracterize me based on your narrow view of the world and your obsession with a silly hoax. You know that to be my position, and it will always BE my position, based on knowledge learned while being part of that industry for some time.

I can NOT change the fact that I understand the subject better than you.

Why are you stalking me? Would you like to go to one of your chemtard threads to discuss the subject, oh...wait, we can't....You have banned me from posting facts in reply to your ignorance, and you delete posts. Both of which are true manipulation of reality. It APPEARS as though no one tries to discuss the facts with you, when the reality is that you refuse to allow them.

I do think so much about people like you during this time of year, and I apologize for the HURTFUL things I've written to you. But, I will NEVER stop pointing out that others are spreading lies, as long as I'm able. It's a noble thing to do. I wouldn't expect you to understand that word.
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Re: Vaccine Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome - not making this up !
Of all of the strawmen you could have possibly chosen to fire back, you chose the New York Post?

Go read the NIH letter directly. It doesn't mention the words "gain of function," but as you stated, the nuance of language is obviously confusing people, yourself included.

I don't rely on information from news reports that are slanted one way or another.

I didn't accept the "vaccination" because a very dear friend of mine owns and operates an mRNA research lab and has been working on an mRNA "vaccine" for AIDS for over 30 years now.

Why isn't this "vaccine" available?

Because it kills everyone who takes it eventually, and they can't seem to figure out why.

So let's just all run out for our spike protein injection and not question a thing, shall we?
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^^^This^^^
After the communist nobama rescinded the Smith-Mundt Act, we can all expect any media reporting to be propaganda, editorial, lies.
GLP links to actual lab studies where we can read the facts/research and make our own decisions.
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The cdc is NOT a Government agency, and the "Studies" they do specifically on the Vax is Funded by the pharmaceutical company pushing to market these vax products. They are NOT Blind studies. Those running the cdc are placed from the revolving door between the pharmaceutical companies and the cdc and that includes the FDA. The CDC is A private For profit Corporation.
The FDA is a Government department that has been corrupted by the pharmaceutical companies who have unlimited resources to lobby, buy and install their own personal within the FDA





GLP