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Wait, wasn't this a "Conspiracy Theory" a month ago? Vaxxed way more likely to be infected

 
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Please explain this to the thousands of unvaxxed dying in hospitals across the USA. I'm sure it will be a relief.
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unvaxxed as in "have not gotten the booster" stfu you pos.
Your kind will be hunted down for this eventually.
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Re: Wait, wasn't this a "Conspiracy Theory" a month ago? Vaxxed way more likely to be infected
You couldn't have SCRIPTED a bigger clown show:

[link to www.wnd.com (secure)]

"The study shows that after three months, the effectiveness of the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna mRNA vaccines against omicron is actually negative.

The Pfizer vaccine makes recipients 76.5% more likely and the Moderna recipients 39.3% more likely to be infected than unvaccinated people."

The vaxxed are the largest flock of sheep in the history of mankind...totally swindled from day one
 Quoting: GrimReaper20


Lol when you click on the link to the study in the article, it doesn't say that at all:

[link to www.medrxiv.org (secure)]

Our study provides evidence of protection against infection with the Omicron variant after completion of a primary vaccination series with the BNT162b2 or mRNA-1273 vaccines; in particular, we found a VE against the Omicron variant of 55.2% (95% confidence interval (CI): 23.5 to 73.7%) and 36.7% (95% CI: 69.9 to 76.4%) for the BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273 vaccines, respectively, in the first month after primary vaccination.


No negative effectiveness. The study say vaccine work against omicron, just not as well as against delta.


Basically your article is fake news
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Re: Wait, wasn't this a "Conspiracy Theory" a month ago? Vaxxed way more likely to be infected
The sheep are too frightened. They will be happy to take the 4th, 5th and 6th booster.
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They have no choice now...their immune system is shot! The booster is their only chance to live a little while longer.
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After 2 years you are still shilling the effectiveness of a vaccine as the supposed pandemic rages on, you kinda lose by default.
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Fake wnd news.
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Re: Wait, wasn't this a "Conspiracy Theory" a month ago? Vaxxed way more likely to be infected
You couldn't have SCRIPTED a bigger clown show:

[link to www.wnd.com (secure)]

"The study shows that after three months, the effectiveness of the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna mRNA vaccines against omicron is actually negative.

The Pfizer vaccine makes recipients 76.5% more likely and the Moderna recipients 39.3% more likely to be infected than unvaccinated people."

The vaxxed are the largest flock of sheep in the history of mankind...totally swindled from day one
 Quoting: GrimReaper20


Lol when you click on the link to the study in the article, it doesn't say that at all:

[link to www.medrxiv.org (secure)]

Our study provides evidence of protection against infection with the Omicron variant after completion of a primary vaccination series with the BNT162b2 or mRNA-1273 vaccines; in particular, we found a VE against the Omicron variant of 55.2% (95% confidence interval (CI): 23.5 to 73.7%) and 36.7% (95% CI: 69.9 to 76.4%) for the BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273 vaccines, respectively, in the first month after primary vaccination.


No negative effectiveness. The study say vaccine work against omicron, just not as well as against delta.


Basically your article is fake news
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op is a liar or moron
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Re: Wait, wasn't this a "Conspiracy Theory" a month ago? Vaxxed way more likely to be infected
Funny how my local news I go to for weather has under their Fact or Fiction section this very claim. At the end of a very long 'news piece' bottom line was 'we rate this to be mostly not true.'

Well, that's different since most of their lil' so-called fact checkers come up w/ 'we rate this to be pants on fire.'
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Re: Wait, wasn't this a "Conspiracy Theory" a month ago? Vaxxed way more likely to be infected
Some additional info blowing holes in the bottom of the "vaccines are safe & effective" boat:

The European Journal of Immunology nonetheless demonstrates that natural immunity from prior infection is both durable and longer-lasting than vaccinated immunity, although elderly patients may benefit less from this form of immunity.

[link to beckernews.com (secure)]

Lancet Report (medical journal) - NOT a pandemic of the unvaxxed

[link to noqreport.com (secure)]
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Re: Wait, wasn't this a "Conspiracy Theory" a month ago? Vaxxed way more likely to be infected
You couldn't have SCRIPTED a bigger clown show:

[link to www.wnd.com (secure)]

"The study shows that after three months, the effectiveness of the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna mRNA vaccines against omicron is actually negative.

The Pfizer vaccine makes recipients 76.5% more likely and the Moderna recipients 39.3% more likely to be infected than unvaccinated people."

The vaxxed are the largest flock of sheep in the history of mankind...totally swindled from day one
 Quoting: GrimReaper20


Lol when you click on the link to the study in the article, it doesn't say that at all:

[link to www.medrxiv.org (secure)]

Our study provides evidence of protection against infection with the Omicron variant after completion of a primary vaccination series with the BNT162b2 or mRNA-1273 vaccines; in particular, we found a VE against the Omicron variant of 55.2% (95% confidence interval (CI): 23.5 to 73.7%) and 36.7% (95% CI: 69.9 to 76.4%) for the BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273 vaccines, respectively, in the first month after primary vaccination.


No negative effectiveness. The study say vaccine work against omicron, just not as well as against delta.


Basically your article is fake news
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80196381


op is a liar or moron
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80414145


You've read just the "Abstract" section.
If you had read the FULL TEXT you'd find, early in the text:
"By comparison, both vaccines showed higher, longer-lasting protection against Delta. The negative estimates in the final period arguably suggest different behaviour and/or exposure patterns in the vaccinated and unvaccinated cohorts causing underestimation of the VE"
The study compared vacines' effectiveness against Delta and Omicron. Concluded they protect LESS against Delta and hence a negative protection margin (more likely to be infected with Omicron than with Delta). And stated that, due to this, boosts are needed to take the "protection" level for Omicron to the same for Delta.

Nothing new but... WHO is the "moron" now?
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highly reputable source you gronk
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I don't know enough about wnd to trust them. Seems like all media is super biased at this point. But there is the link to the actual study right there in the article so we can evaluate for ourselves. In a world where the entire media apparatus has been corrupted it doesn't seem reasonable to just stick with the sources you've always liked because they have used their reputations to bamboozle everyone. Gotta verify everything. Anyway, here's the link to the study itself sanitized and purified of any association with wnd.

[link to www.medrxiv.org (secure)]

The funny and tragic part is that you could have gone there yourself and clicked the link but you didn't because you don't think wnd is reputable and thus cut yourself off from information.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81524907


Its typical though. Most people do that. Forget covid and just look at political party ideology. Conservatives refuse to hear anything from Demonrats and vice versa. Its not what people say, but WHO says it.
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Please explain this to the thousands of unvaxxed dying in hospitals across the USA. I'm sure it will be a relief.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81690731


LOL you poor brainwashed dumb fuck.
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C'mon now. The full PDF shows exactly how OP was correct. You have to download the file from the right side because this graphic is not found in the Full Text portion. They make these things purposely inconvenient to find because it's creates a minor obstacle that deters lazy people.

[link to pasteboard.co (secure)]
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Just collating evidence for Original Antigenic Sin.

UK HSA
[link to ibb.co (secure)]
(from page 21: [link to assets.publishing.service.gov.uk (secure)] )

DANISH STUDY
[link to ibb.co (secure)]
(From Page 6: [link to www.medrxiv.org (secure)] )

SWEDISH STUDY
[link to ibb.co (secure)]
(from page 33/34 of [link to papers.ssrn.com (secure)] )

DUTCH STUDY
[link to ibb.co (secure)]
from page 5: [link to www.medrxiv.org (secure)] )

ONTARIO, Canada
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(From Alex Berenson Substack)

QATAR STUDY: not strictly related; concerns infection susceptibility just after vaccination
[link to ibb.co (secure)]
From page 9 of: [link to www.nejm.org (secure)]

This Qatari study above makes you wonder how we get massive waves of infection right after vax campaigns, right??
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Don't they store the deadly viruses frozen at camp de trick? Conspiracy theory?
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Wonder what this plot will look like for the next few weeks!? - Young vaccinated were suffering huge case rates just before Christmas..
Negative Efficiency for 18-69 year olds.
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Engineering division us chemical corp. Murderees
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Re: Wait, wasn't this a "Conspiracy Theory" a month ago? Vaxxed way more likely to be infected
nothing talked about here makes it out into general population around here, because all people wanna do is work and get injected and make money and obey.

their kids are dropping dead, their parents are dropping dead but they don't let that distract them from working for the people who murdered their children, they got to obey and get er done.


but it's also because there is such perfected ignorance that they know NOTHING to contradict ANYTHING the media tells them. if yOU try to tell them the media is lying, who are YOU to tell them this? they instantly disagree with anyone who disagrees with 'power'
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Nothing under here George?
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Re: Wait, wasn't this a "Conspiracy Theory" a month ago? Vaxxed way more likely to be infected
Just collating evidence for Original Antigenic Sin.

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This was another document that was made inconvenient to find by the UK government. I had to try multiple excel programs to get it to load properly and it was formatted to chop 1/3 of the page to make it harder to read but this is the main course pieced together.

I don't know if it applies as ADE or premeditated murder but it is certainly provocative...

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Re: Wait, wasn't this a "Conspiracy Theory" a month ago? Vaxxed way more likely to be infected
I was reading on twitter the vaxxed were still justifying getting the shots by saying the unvaxxed were the ones in the ICU's.
I know that goes against data from the uk and what Alex Berenson published last week.
For the government of Ontario, they do say that of covid cases, the majority are unvaxxed.
I'd have to look at data from each hospital to verify if that was true, which I didnt do.
But I did look at ICU usage.
Filling up the ICU's were:
30% of ICU's were free
7% in icus were covid cases
63% were non covid related cases

Of course,they are not to say it,but vax injuries could be a big part of that 63%.
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from the study
it does not say what the op claims at all

Our study provides evidence of protection against infection with the Omicron variant after completion of a primary vaccination series with the BNT162b2 or mRNA-1273 vaccines; in particular, we found a VE against the Omicron variant of 55.2% (95% confidence interval (CI): 23.5 to 73.7%) and 36.7% (95% CI: 69.9 to 76.4%) for the BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273 vaccines, respectively, in the first month after primary vaccination. However, the VE is significantly lower than that against Delta infection and declines rapidly over just a few months. The VE is re-established upon revaccination with the BNT162b2 vaccine (54.6%, 95% CI: 30.4 to 70.4%).
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bump
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Good catch. The anti vaxtards are the dumbest sheep of all.
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So your saying that even if you had covid and survived like 99% of people would you would get three or four shots for the fuck of it ?
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Depends on the vax....

You really think China is giving it's citizens mRNA?
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Its like getting beat up and knocked out by a girl, wake up and still fight her 3 UfC friends?
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Re: Wait, wasn't this a "Conspiracy Theory" a month ago? Vaxxed way more likely to be infected
You couldn't have SCRIPTED a bigger clown show:

[link to www.wnd.com (secure)]

"The study shows that after three months, the effectiveness of the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna mRNA vaccines against omicron is actually negative.

The Pfizer vaccine makes recipients 76.5% more likely and the Moderna recipients 39.3% more likely to be infected than unvaccinated people."

The vaxxed are the largest flock of sheep in the history of mankind...totally swindled from day one
 Quoting: GrimReaper20


Lol when you click on the link to the study in the article, it doesn't say that at all:

[link to www.medrxiv.org (secure)]

Our study provides evidence of protection against infection with the Omicron variant after completion of a primary vaccination series with the BNT162b2 or mRNA-1273 vaccines; in particular, we found a VE against the Omicron variant of 55.2% (95% confidence interval (CI): 23.5 to 73.7%) and 36.7% (95% CI: 69.9 to 76.4%) for the BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273 vaccines, respectively, in the first month after primary vaccination.


No negative effectiveness. The study say vaccine work against omicron, just not as well as against delta.


Basically your article is fake news
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80196381


They are questioning the negative affectivness in the comment section of the article.
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Re: Wait, wasn't this a "Conspiracy Theory" a month ago? Vaxxed way more likely to be infected
Ignore anything to do wirh this fake bullshit plannedemic





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