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Clinton May Garnish Wages to Achieve Universal Health Care

 
NeoFistOfTheGolgoNinj​a
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Clinton May Garnish Wages to Achieve Universal Health Care
Will Sen. Hillary Clinton garnish the wages of people who can afford health insurance but refuse to buy into her universal health care plan? Maybe.

The Democratic presidential hopeful tried to duck the question Sunday, when ABC's George Stephanopoulos asked her about wage-garnishing three times. But she didn't rule it out.

Clinton on Sunday described universal health care as "a core Democratic value and a moral principle, and I'm absolutely going to do everything I can to achieve that."

The campaign of Sen. Barack Obama is warning voters that Clinton's plan forces everyone to buy insurance, even if they can't afford it. "And if they cannot afford it, then the question is what are you going to do about it? Are you going to fine them? Are you going to garnish their wages?" Obama asked Clinton at one of their debates.


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Been well known for quite some time.
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Been well known for quite some time.
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Just a reminder of what may be coming.
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everyone keeps talking about 'universal health care' but what i want to hear is how we can freaking just lower health care COSTS in general...

for example: the flu is raging at our kids' school. oldest son came down with it first. called our local family physician and was told that a trip to the doctor plus the flu test = $92.00. To fill the tamiflu prescription at Fred's dollar store is $95. $88 at walmart, $105 at Walgreens.

we are a family of five. stupid school board rules DICTATE that in order for a kid to have an 'excused' absence, then you MUST take your kid to the doctor and get an excuse.

So right there, if all three kids get the flu, it's almost $300 for the doctor visits for all of them. If my husband and I get it and go to the doctor that's another $200.

If we all five get prescriptions for tamiflu, that's another $500.

So, a family of 5 could end up spending $1000.00 just to get some drugs to shorten this vicious flu strain down to 2 days from 7.

Of course, we didn't do that. That's stupid. I tell the school to kiss my ass on that policy - but it still enrages me that they can 'choose' to 'not' let a kid 'make up work' if the parent doesn't haul their kid off to the doctor.

In our case, my son did indeed come down with the flu. But since 8 other kids in my (very small) neighborhood and 3 parents all had it, I figured hell, no reason to spend $92 for someone to verify what I already know he has. A friend of a friend had an extra tamiflu prescription that had not been filled and gave to me so I filled it for my son - only gave him a third of the prescription (he started feeling better within 24 hours), and when my husband came down with it I gave him a third (he felt better within 24 hours) and so far my fingers are crossed that the rest of us can dodge this bullet since I only have a third left and there's still 3 of us that haven't gotten it yet, lol :)

But still...aggravates the crap out of me that it costs so much for just general health care!

Another example - my annual physical with the gyn - I was billed $328.00 (??????!!!!!???? WHAT???)....

That's freaking CRAZY!

We don't go the docs much - we are a healthy family, so we NEVER reach our high deductible on our insurance. If a kid comes down with a nasty fever and cough (and I hear through the grapevine that strep is going around or something) that is about the only time I will actually take my kids to the doctor. It just is crazy that it costs so much!

We are not poor, so I take all this with a grain of salt - still pisses me off though. At least I can afford it if I *have* to use it....but what about those that can't? Geez.
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notice how she won't tell us what she is going to do

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does the tamiflu work?
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does the tamiflu work?
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It works at turning you into a mutant zombie
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does the tamiflu work?
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Did for both my son and my husband. Hubby called it a magic bullet.

We aren't a big drug type family. Advil for headaches, that's about it.

But this strain literally takes you DOWN....Both of them were ready for something to make it better, and yes the tamiflu certainly seemed to take the worst out of it.
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My wages are already being garnished-it's called income tax.........
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I'm NOT a fan of her... but ... how can you not understand
at this point ... the neocons have 'garnish'ed the fucking NATION ???

the BILLIONS for the illegal and unconstitutional war are
wiping out everything we had.

RON PAUL 2008
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OUR WAGES ARE ALREADY BEING GARNISHED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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OUR WAGES ARE ALREADY BEING GARNISHED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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well i guess that makes it alright to garnish more..

how about a carbon tax garnishment?

how about I'm a fucking pussy garnish my whole fucking paycheck?

HOW ABOUT THAT YOU FUCKING SHEEP?
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My wages are already being garnished-it's called income tax.........
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well now you will pay not only the income tax and the ss tax and the medicare tax..but you will pay a healthcare tax..a carbon tax..ad nauseum.

fucking cunt.
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she needs to be impeached before it too late for us
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a fat tax may also be garnished from those idividuals who fail to maintain optimum weight as measured by their mandatory bi-annual state health examinations.
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My family is uninsured. We don't go to the doctor unless it's life threatening or something we can't fix. I can do a pretty sweet suture when I have to. I can set a bone better than some doctors and make a cast like an artist.

I wouldn't have these skills if health care was affordable. Insurance isn't the answer, it's the problem. Everyone with insurance pays for a couple doctor visits a month that they never use. The hospitals charge what the insurance companies will pay, not what it costs to do business. Erase the insurance and prices will drop to what most people can afford. If no one would pay $10 for aspirin at a hospital then they wouldn't charge that much. Insurance companies pay that $10 like it's nothing. So that becomes the price.

Because of insurance each suture costs like $20. Because of insurance walking into the emergency room costs $150 before you've ever been seen. Because of dental insurance it costs $300 to pull a tooth (a 5 minute procedure).

Ban insurance and prices will fall to what people can afford. Give everyone insurance and everyone's going to get screwed. They'll have poor care and slim wallets. It's a losing idea for everyone except the insurance companies and doctors.
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My family is uninsured. We don't go to the doctor unless it's life threatening or something we can't fix. I can do a pretty sweet suture when I have to. I can set a bone better than some doctors and make a cast like an artist.

I wouldn't have these skills if health care was affordable. Insurance isn't the answer, it's the problem. Everyone with insurance pays for a couple doctor visits a month that they never use. The hospitals charge what the insurance companies will pay, not what it costs to do business. Erase the insurance and prices will drop to what most people can afford. If no one would pay $10 for aspirin at a hospital then they wouldn't charge that much. Insurance companies pay that $10 like it's nothing. So that becomes the price.

Because of insurance each suture costs like $20. Because of insurance walking into the emergency room costs $150 before you've ever been seen. Because of dental insurance it costs $300 to pull a tooth (a 5 minute procedure).

Ban insurance and prices will fall to what people can afford. Give everyone insurance and everyone's going to get screwed. They'll have poor care and slim wallets. It's a losing idea for everyone except the insurance companies and doctors.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 357912

All citizens who fail to pay the health tax will be sent to re-education "camps"

Hillary CLinton
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Yeah, that's the most Fuck'd thing I've heard her say yet.

Go Obama
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Yeah, that's the most Fuck'd thing I've heard her say yet.

Go Obama
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She has always felt this way..

it takes a village..remember?

all wages will be garnished for the good of the village.

Hillary Clinton
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Will Sen. Hillary Clinton garnish the wages of people who can afford health insurance but refuse to buy into her universal health care plan? Maybe.

 Quoting: NeoFistOfTheGolgoNinja


And whom does this plan benefit?

Oh, yeah.

The insurance companies.

I wonder how much money they donated?
HORRIBLE BASTARD.
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Will Sen. Hillary Clinton garnish the wages of people who can afford health insurance but refuse to buy into her universal health care plan? Maybe.



And whom does this plan benefit?

Oh, yeah.

The insurance companies.

I wonder how much money they donated?
 Quoting: The Good Reverend Roger

All workers shall have their wages garnished for the good of the village.

Hillary Clinto
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Will Sen. Hillary Clinton garnish the wages of people who can afford health insurance but refuse to buy into her universal health care plan? Maybe.



And whom does this plan benefit?

Oh, yeah.

The insurance companies.

I wonder how much money they donated?
 Quoting: The Good Reverend Roger

All workers shall have their wages garnished for the good of the village.

Hillary Clinton





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