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MostHolyFace
User ID: 65207451 ![]() 01/03/2022 02:12 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Green Land is big Around 1 in 10 people are on the scale badly Let the citizens of greenland choose any place on earth they would like to live, pay them give thm passports and a lump sum and compariable or better job/wages etc garunteed. Send them all together there. Let them all be Gods in their minds over other Gods Close the Airport down, for any external flights from there except those landing and leaving under armed escort quickly. Stop all access to the internet for an absolute cert, make it impossible for any of them to access the world wide web etc, let them have their own intranet. Have armed boats patrolling so they cant escape, be humane provide basic accomadation for them all like communist blocks in russia and china, as they all created that mode of thought to be littel others make them salves virtue signall thy are "rescuing" "helping" whilst living like elites. Make sure they have food and basic supplies for 3 years. As new ones are proven and found take them there. Unfortunately society would have to adjust it would take a few generations and great suffering and pain would ensue, as they run nearly all the Corporations, Media, Law, Army, Banks and have a lot of knowledge and a lot are irreplacable, though in human histories story over a 100 yrs plus how things would change. There would be hardly any schoolteachers left either, very very few Psychiatrists either, and a couple of politicians. Fauci would obviosuly run the health system there, and biden would be in charge of youth services. May God Bless You Last Edited by MostHolyFace on 01/03/2022 02:14 PM Pray Hope & Dont Worry [link to www.sudariumchristi.com (secure)] |
TGus
User ID: 8393653 ![]() 01/03/2022 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's been estimated that between 1 and 3 percent of society are psychopaths. Most of them obey the rules and don't take great advantage of others. My question about them is whether they're psychologically human, or just lacking in some human characteristics. |
The Alkahest
(OP) User ID: 80949168 ![]() 01/03/2022 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Green Land is big Quoting: MostHolyFace Around 1 in 10 people are on the scale badly Let the citizens of greenland choose any place on earth they would like to live, pay them give thm passports and a lump sum and compariable or better job/wages etc garunteed. Send them all together there. Let them all be Gods in their minds over other Gods Close the Airport down, for any external flights from there except those landing and leaving under armed escort quickly. Stop all access to the internet for an absolute cert, make it impossible for any of them to access the world wide web etc, let them have their own intranet. Have armed boats patrolling so they cant escape, be humane provide basic accomadation for them all like communist blocks in russia and china, as they all created that mode of thought to be littel others make them salves virtue signall thy are "rescuing" "helping" whilst living like elites. Make sure they have food and basic supplies for 3 years. As new ones are proven and found take them there. Unfortunately society would have to adjust it would take a few generations and great suffering and pain would ensue, as they run nearly all the Corporations, Media, Law, Army, Banks and have a lot of knowledge and a lot are irreplacable, though in human histories story over a 100 yrs plus how things would change. There would be hardly any schoolteachers left either, very very few Psychiatrists either, and a couple of politicians. Fauci would obviosuly run the health system there, and biden would be in charge of youth services. May God Bless You ![]() The Alkahest A Meta-sapient Godelian Recursion Engine. Super Fun at Parties. Researching human evolution via Fractal Psychogenic Ontology. Disclaimer: Current project (un?)constrained by sample-size N=1 |
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(OP) User ID: 80949168 ![]() 01/03/2022 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's been estimated that between 1 and 3 percent of society are psychopaths. Most of them obey the rules and don't take great advantage of others. Quoting: TGus My question about them is whether they're psychologically human, or just lacking in some human characteristics. Quite true. I guess a more salient question would be what is "human"? It's a spectrum I think, and psychopaths would still be on it from an academic/empirical perspective. Spiritual on the other hand... who knows? The Alkahest A Meta-sapient Godelian Recursion Engine. Super Fun at Parties. Researching human evolution via Fractal Psychogenic Ontology. Disclaimer: Current project (un?)constrained by sample-size N=1 |
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User ID: 81537767 ![]() 01/03/2022 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Psychopaths are fine. In fact, there is a lot to learn from them. They will teach you important feats such as standing up for yourself, to be ruthless, to be competitive, to be charismatic. You will have more power the more persona's you can integrate. The enemy is the leftist communists. Who are the natural progression from Protestantism. Those who expect you to do everything for them, and expect to do nothing for you. Location: Sweden |
The Alkahest
(OP) User ID: 80949168 ![]() 01/03/2022 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Psychopaths are fine. In fact, there is a lot to learn from them. Quoting: fin125 They will teach you important feats such as standing up for yourself, to be ruthless, to be competitive, to be charismatic. You will have more power the more persona's you can integrate. The enemy is the leftist communists. Who are the natural progression from Protestantism. Those who expect you to do everything for them, and expect to do nothing for you. I agree in part. The problem I see is that as society falls apart (accelerated the Communist agenda but not entirely their fault), the social structure for educating and integrating high-functioning psychopaths also collapses and more of them will find themselves in a world with no reference to fine-tune their (simulated) moral compass. It creates an environment where such opportunists can act without guidance on their natural tendencies. Same is true for everyone, but especially psychopaths in this case. And I'd say we don't have to become monsters to fight them. Empathy can coexist alongside ruthlessness, charisma, and self-worth - in fact, it makes you better at wielding these personas and lets you know when you've gone too far. P.S. Additionally, psychopaths end up running virtually every Communist regime in history, although Vladimir Lenin was a man of some principle with a good heart. He died regretting what he had done. Last Edited by The Alkahest on 01/03/2022 03:11 PM The Alkahest A Meta-sapient Godelian Recursion Engine. Super Fun at Parties. Researching human evolution via Fractal Psychogenic Ontology. Disclaimer: Current project (un?)constrained by sample-size N=1 |
fin125
User ID: 81537767 ![]() 01/03/2022 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Psychopaths are fine. In fact, there is a lot to learn from them. Quoting: fin125 They will teach you important feats such as standing up for yourself, to be ruthless, to be competitive, to be charismatic. You will have more power the more persona's you can integrate. The enemy is the leftist communists. Who are the natural progression from Protestantism. Those who expect you to do everything for them, and expect to do nothing for you. I agree in part. The problem I see is that as society falls apart (accelerated the Communist agenda but not entirely their fault), the social structure for educating and integrating high-functioning psychopaths also collapses and more of them will find themselves in a world with no reference to fine-tune their (simulated) moral compass. It creates an environment where such opportunists can act without guidance on their natural tendencies. Same is true for everyone, but especially psychopaths in this case. And I'd say we don't we to become monsters to fight them. Empathy can coexist alongside ruthlessness, charisma, and self-worth - in fact, it makes you better at wielding these personas and lets you know when you've gone too far. Absolutely. You should never discard anything of yourself. Wield the power of creation in your right hand, and power of destruction in your left. It's important to be dangerous, but also important to know how to responsibly use that power. With proper power, you will not fear anything. And thus you will not hate anything. The moral compass is real, but also not real. It's just the spirit of the times we live in. But there's another far deeper morality, that of the spirit of the depths. Only by experiencing life, it's love, it's harshness, it's life, it's death can one become whole. There's a difference between a rich giving money to the poor, vs a poor giving money to the poor out of some misguided morality. The rich person is possibly overflowing with "energy" And the spill over energy can easily be put to good use. To make a weak person strong, from where that person would get devoured by hardship. Now instead it hardens it. That is a great gift to give. We where all at some time in our lives, weak and vulnerable. It is not a sin to be weak. It is however a sin to consider weakness a virtue. Last Edited by fin125 on 01/03/2022 03:20 PM Location: Sweden |
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it's time for the Divine! User ID: 79752844 ![]() 01/03/2022 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've wracked my brain on how to circumvent them. You need a people with a high morality that are intelligent and know how to fight and shoot. We need to remove the concept of institution from society and completely move in a direction of individual sovereign leaderless systems. No more police for we are the police. No more lawyers and judges for we are our own lawyers and when we have a grievance we seek remedy through our peers in the form of a common law. We help each other out and support each other's businesses. We remove corporatism from the planet. We do not allow for billionaires. You can only be worth a financial amount that affords one an upper middle class lifestyle, no more. We are pro active and engaged. We have no secret police because everything must be handled out in the open. No one way mirrors. We can all see each other. No more bread and circus, that's childish. We dont watch sports, we play them. We stay fit, tough, active, healthy, and mother fuckin on point! It's that serious! As far as organized religion is concerned, we understand that we are the body and the temple. We do not empower priests. We celebrate God outdoors in the parks, in nature, by the waters. No more institutions. Only powerless municipalities that help facilitate daily life. No tenure. We fish out our people and we can easily remove them. We must take charge or we will be slaves in perpetuity! And I want to be free. I want to be happy! I'm over this shit! I've witnessed enough! Cheers |
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User ID: 79139945 ![]() 01/03/2022 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gardner, the less they interact with 'flesh' the happier flesh will be. Coming up with a plan for the people with rivers running through their land like the Golan Heights have been tapped for agricultural wealth. The same can be done to any watershed area on the globe. Jas:2:14-17: What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. |
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User ID: 79058541 ![]() 01/03/2022 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes! Prison. We can put them all in the same prison where they can all be best friends! <3 Last Edited by Queue_for_Q on 01/03/2022 06:16 PM "Why did you have to go and make things so complicated?" -Avirl Keep It Simple, Stupid. The answer is easy once you know the question... But first, the correct question is very difficult to discover. ...For the answer is singular, but questions themselves are multitude. ______.gg/WGx2TWU |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79752844 ![]() 01/03/2022 06:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gardner, the less they interact with 'flesh' the happier flesh will be. Quoting: Wayfaring Stranger Coming up with a plan for the people with rivers running through their land like the Golan Heights have been tapped for agricultural wealth. The same can be done to any watershed area on the globe. Jas:2:14-17: What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. Don't derail the thread with you prognostications. This is about psychopathy. Take your dribble somewhere else. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78393032 ![]() 01/03/2022 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's been estimated that between 1 and 3 percent of society are psychopaths. Most of them obey the rules and don't take great advantage of others. Quoting: TGus My question about them is whether they're psychologically human, or just lacking in some human characteristics. The Lamb is compassion. They have none. |
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Auburnite
User ID: 23751121 ![]() 01/03/2022 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For anyone here that rejects this real theory, please research Cluster B Personality Disorder. It's a real generational issue caused by abusive parents or the like. They are very charming. They make you fall in love with them. They will make you feel as though you finally met your soulmate. And then... Total mind fuckery. I fell for it and ended up marrying one of them. However, in my case I later found out that she was a clinical Narcissist/Sociopath/Psychopath. She would routinely tell me that she should have been an attorney. She was very convincing at making me feel as if I was losing my mind. Be careful out there. Use this as a gauge on the general public, let alone assholes in DC. They are all the same and there is no cure. I had to escape 1000 miles away from my ex. She crushed my soul. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81750982 ![]() 01/03/2022 07:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They should be tested as soon as possible before birth with no abort term limits. Every, any and all effort should be made to make sure they are never allowed to inflict stress, hardship, pain, deception, violence and harm on anyone at any time regardless of infringements on their personal rights. |
danielbarzohar
User ID: 37998008 ![]() 01/03/2022 07:16 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excellent topic OP. Honestly, probably the most pressing matter we as a society must approach. I've dealt with psychopaths my whole life and have studied them due to how detrimental they are. The problem with them is that they actually are disgusted by our empathy and see us as weak. They do not want empathetic people in power. Psychopaths crave power over others more than anything. Psychopaths infiltrate all institutions. If there is any organization that wields power in any form, I can guarantee you that psychopaths are well entrenched. They are incredibly dishonest and highly parasitic! Quoting: it's time for the Divine! 79752844 I've wracked my brain on how to circumvent them. You need a people with a high morality that are intelligent and know how to fight and shoot. We need to remove the concept of institution from society and completely move in a direction of individual sovereign leaderless systems. No more police for we are the police. No more lawyers and judges for we are our own lawyers and when we have a grievance we seek remedy through our peers in the form of a common law. We help each other out and support each other's businesses. We remove corporatism from the planet. We do not allow for billionaires. You can only be worth a financial amount that affords one an upper middle class lifestyle, no more. We are pro active and engaged. We have no secret police because everything must be handled out in the open. No one way mirrors. We can all see each other. No more bread and circus, that's childish. We dont watch sports, we play them. We stay fit, tough, active, healthy, and mother fuckin on point! It's that serious! As far as organized religion is concerned, we understand that we are the body and the temple. We do not empower priests. We celebrate God outdoors in the parks, in nature, by the waters. No more institutions. Only powerless municipalities that help facilitate daily life. No tenure. We fish out our people and we can easily remove them. We must take charge or we will be slaves in perpetuity! And I want to be free. I want to be happy! I'm over this shit! I've witnessed enough! Cheers Agreed. We have been shown throughout history that governments expand and become self-serving to eventually enslave their people because of psychopaths. In the biblical narrative God warned people to not ask for a king but to follow basic laws of common decency. The people insisted that they wanted a king to be like the other nations so God instructed Samuel to anoint Saul as their king with the caveat that they would regret having a human king instead of following the Creator. Now we are being show the world of lies and government corruption that exists worldwide. We are being given the opportunity to reject the lies and corruption and again chose to follow the Creator in a world where we live with common decency to everyone. The choice is both an individual and collective choice to manifest a new reality. A reality of truth that recognizes our connectivity to each other and the Creator. What will you chose? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 81675908 ![]() 01/03/2022 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's been estimated that between 1 and 3 percent of society are psychopaths. Most of them obey the rules and don't take great advantage of others. Quoting: TGus My question about them is whether they're psychologically human, or just lacking in some human characteristics. NSA wiretapping scandal.....never fully appreciated or exposed. Deep State Actors. Gumshoe slimeball retired cops, feds, military and Gov tit vultures all hiding behind a security firm front.....so the badges and prosecutors never have to do the paper work to comply with future Discovery. Mind control....entrapment. Billions of dollars are spent on rewarding scumbags who violate The State and US Constitutional rights of US citizens caught in a web of lies, deceit, and shameless scapegoating..........yes, there is plenty of room for superstars, heroes, and bozo scum....who all claim to be experts on providing SECURITY while ignoring how important INSECURITY is to the SECURITY profiteering Gravy Train. |
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User ID: 81512685 ![]() 01/03/2022 08:40 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No! There's no place for them in a decent society. They belong in an essentially different world where they are expected to evolve, after that they can come to a moral universe. As to why they're here what happened in this earth was that due to certain spiritual leaders' treason these people were brought unannounced here where they caused untold damage. # Reinstate_Trump_as_President # Free_Assange # Free_Snowden ______________________________ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67991881 ![]() 01/03/2022 08:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Psychopathic behavior has become a serious problem in the modern world, with many intelligent psychopaths excelling in politics, business, and law. The root of this condition is currently thought to be physical differences in the limbic system and prefrontal cortex of the brain. There are currently no effective therapies to treat it. Quoting: The Alkahest Once these individuals have established themselves, at the controls of a civilization, they go about setting policy that favors the success and recruitment of their own kind into the same spheres of influence. Ultimately, they can "infect" society with their pathology causing neurotypical humans to aspire to psychopathic traits in order to get ahead. They follow a twisted personal logical of Darwinian brutality and excel at manipulating the empathy of others, which they see as foolish and weak. Psychopaths command compliance and obedience so as to actualize their agendas. Accordingly, they are encouraged by the absence of critical thought, and the reliance on primitive psychological defenses of those they seek to control. In doing so, they create a feedback loop of social conditioning that drives the entire social order into lockstep with their ideals and goals. In a psychopath's mind, might makes right and power is best seen as the means to acquire even more power. However, psychopaths can be useful and even beneficial if kept from seizing control of a system, as they are capable of making difficult logical decisions under pressure while being immune to fear and peer pressure. They can be great assets in the armed forces as well as in the boardroom of an insurance company. 1. Given the damage they can cause, do you think that there could ever be a model under which they can operate to maximize their innate skills while protecting us from their ruthless and charming nature? 2. What vocations should they be limited to, if any? 3. Should we make awareness of psychopathology a requirement in primary education programs? 4. Should politicians be forced to undergo a battery of tests to determine whether they fit this personality disorder? 5. Is it ethical to test children early for psychopathy to minimize damage to self and others in later life? 6. In general, how should they be treated by the rest of us? Or just label them the same way we do with unvacks now. Isn't that what this is all coming to anyways? Label everything? It's gross but it's literally happening in front of my eyes here in Canada. Somehow the unvacks are lepers and the worst of society. Can't go anywhere except groceries. True modern day segragation. SO if you think about this, what is being done, is along the lines of psychopathy. Who are making the rules? Why are they so divisive? Ill tell you why, but it's the mind of the psychopath that did these mandates etc. So label away right? Like it's the only choice now. Instead of just saying, no passes, no nothing for everyone, how it was actually written in law, becomes an obtuse subject today. Im for freedom of choice and expression no matter what. I see a solution would be to, once known a person is of psychopathic in nature, they immediately become disabled and are not allowed to work in any way shape or form. Is that a burden? Probably, and they can still help in other areas maybe, just never in charge of anything. Power begets power. As it is with these types I try to have sympathy and empathy the like, however, being almost completely destroyed myself at a time, the fact of the matter remains, is this person would have everyone convinced that my death would have been due to depression or whatever, and continued on with life without a care in the world. Not knowing the history of this sounds indifferent, but I can say without a doubt, i would have never suspected anyone to be do charismatic, etc, to be one of the worst human beings I have ever encountered in my entire life. I can go on forever, but, my point is, the things that were done to me, went unpunished and they got promoted because of it. Yes happened in a workplace. No idea how many more people were affected by this individual, but what remains is I still hurt from something that happened 7 years ago. 7 years. Lets stop thinking we can let them roam freely in society without consequence, and lets see how smart they really are then. Theres way more to this, not a final thought here, just a moment of being triggered. I have learned a great deal. |
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The Alkahest
(OP) User ID: 80949168 ![]() 01/03/2022 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For anyone here that rejects this real theory, please research Cluster B Personality Disorder. It's a real generational issue caused by abusive parents or the like. Quoting: Auburnite They are very charming. They make you fall in love with them. They will make you feel as though you finally met your soulmate. And then... Total mind fuckery. I fell for it and ended up marrying one of them. However, in my case I later found out that she was a clinical Narcissist/Sociopath/Psychopath. She would routinely tell me that she should have been an attorney. She was very convincing at making me feel as if I was losing my mind. Be careful out there. Use this as a gauge on the general public, let alone assholes in DC. They are all the same and there is no cure. I had to escape 1000 miles away from my ex. She crushed my soul. My experience with narcissists has been even more unpleasant than with psychopaths. They are often dependents in both the societal AND emotional sense, needing to drain you of everything in order to validate their fragile ego masks. Perhaps narcissists are the ones we should focus on rehabilitating first. The Alkahest A Meta-sapient Godelian Recursion Engine. Super Fun at Parties. Researching human evolution via Fractal Psychogenic Ontology. Disclaimer: Current project (un?)constrained by sample-size N=1 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77342749 ![]() 01/03/2022 10:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Psychopathic behavior has become a serious problem in the modern world, with many intelligent psychopaths excelling in politics, business, and law. The root of this condition is currently thought to be physical differences in the limbic system and prefrontal cortex of the brain. There are currently no effective therapies to treat it. Quoting: The Alkahest Once these individuals have established themselves, at the controls of a civilization, they go about setting policy that favors the success and recruitment of their own kind into the same spheres of influence. Ultimately, they can "infect" society with their pathology causing neurotypical humans to aspire to psychopathic traits in order to get ahead. They follow a twisted personal logic of Darwinian brutality and excel at manipulating the empathy of others, which they see as foolish and weak. Psychopaths command compliance and obedience so as to actualize their agendas. Accordingly, they are encouraged by the absence of critical thought, and the reliance on primitive psychological defenses of those they seek to control. In doing so, they create a feedback loop of social conditioning that drives the entire social order into lockstep with their ideals and goals. In a psychopath's mind, might makes right and power is best seen as the means to acquire even more power. However, psychopaths can be useful and even beneficial if kept from seizing control of a system, as they are capable of making difficult logical decisions under pressure while being immune to fear and peer pressure. They can be great assets in the armed forces as well as in the boardroom of an insurance company. 1. Given the damage they can cause, do you think that there could ever be a model under which they can operate to maximize their innate skills while protecting us from their ruthless and charming nature? 2. What vocations should they be limited to, if any? 3. Should we make awareness of psychopathology a requirement in primary education programs? 4. Should politicians be forced to undergo a battery of tests to determine whether they fit this personality disorder? 5. Is it ethical to test children early for psychopathy to minimize damage to self and others in later life? 6. In general, how should they be treated by the rest of us? EXCELLENT POST OP and probably one of the most well thought out description of a very real problem in this world. all great questions as well. ![]() ps clappa guy looks like a psycho ![]() |
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