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Judge Winsor in Doe v. Austin et. al. declared there is no FDA approved vaccine available to the public.

 
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Not only is it NOT available, he doubted if the FDA could even produce one vial of the FDA approved Comirnaty. This is exactly why Biden recently threw up his hands and said it is up to the states to mandate. THERE IS NO APPROVED VACCINE. It was a blatant lie. From the hearing (that Pfizer sponsored media refuses to discuss):

As recognized by the judge, “nder the EUA statute, recipients of EUA drugs must be ‘informed … of the option to accept or refuse administration of the product.”

The judge further noted that with regard to the administration of an EUA product to members of the armed forces, such a right of refusal may be waived only by the president.

As noted, “[t]he DOD acknowledges that the president has not executed a [waiver], so as things now stand, the DOD cannot mandate vaccines that only have an EUA.”

Judge Winsor also pointed out that “DOD’s guidance documents explicitly say only FDA-licensed COVID-19 vaccines are mandated.”

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Are you trying to draw traffic to that shitty site?
Why are you getting everyone riled up over fake news BS?

This Judge ruled AGAINST the restraining order for the mandates.

There was NO WIN here.
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Yeah and they appealed and now it’s at the Supreme Court…

So maybe take this time to do a refresher?
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Good! This current case is presidence for other legal cases!! The current shots are NOT FDA approved!!

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This. While an injunction was not granted it doesn't mean utter defeat. The judge's opinion of the FDA approval is huge and still is citable in other cases.

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Call me when this is going to change anything.
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It does actually. I just had this argument with a friend the other day and realized that I had heard Dr. McCullogh say it, and other scientists, but I would have a hard time locating that as proof that there is no approval. This I can bookmark, and send to someone as proof.
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Two other ways you can tell is that there is still no insert data available, which MUST be the case for an approved medication. Also the other EUA offerings, Moderna and J&J, are still available, which would not be allowed if there were an approved version available.
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Call me when this is going to change anything.
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It does actually. I just had this argument with a friend the other day and realized that I had heard Dr. McCullogh say it, and other scientists, but I would have a hard time locating that as proof that there is no approval. This I can bookmark, and send to someone as proof.
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Two other ways you can tell is that there is still no insert data available, which MUST be the case for an approved medication. Also the other EUA offerings, Moderna and J&J, are still available, which would not be allowed if there were an approved version available.
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But they clouded that up by saying they are interchangeable with the comirnaty that has the inserts.
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This is yet another bait and switch, the soldiers in the case in question lost and had their requests for injunction denied. The judge went on a spiel in his ruling that, as usual makes it clear the government is full of shit and so are the vaccine makers and specifically Pfizer but it's all irrelevant because such and such technicality wasn't satisfied so the judge ruled against the soldiers fighting the mandates. This kind of bullshit is of no help to anyone. The judges opinion of the FDA, opinion of the vaccines availability or legitimacy and opinion of the DOD are all irrelevant. Legally, the soldiers lost. That's all that matters. They can appeal, they can ask for a legal review and they can do any number of other things including bring a new set of injunctions if they can find some grounds but it's all beside the point, they lost.

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Exactly. Nobody on here gets it though, maybe a couple of people.
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If its approved they become liable. There is a loophole in Cares act (I believe) that says if the children get the vaccine they won't be liable.

JFK Jr. was talking on a show and said this.

Will try to find the link.
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Glad a Judge finally figured out what many of us have known since August.
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If its approved they become liable. There is a loophole in Cares act (I believe) that says if the children get the vaccine they won't be liable.

JFK Jr. was talking on a show and said this.

Will try to find the link.
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u mean rfk jr?
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This is yet another bait and switch, the soldiers in the case in question lost and had their requests for injunction denied. The judge went on a spiel in his ruling that, as usual makes it clear the government is full of shit and so are the vaccine makers and specifically Pfizer but it's all irrelevant because such and such technicality wasn't satisfied so the judge ruled against the soldiers fighting the mandates. This kind of bullshit is of no help to anyone. The judges opinion of the FDA, opinion of the vaccines availability or legitimacy and opinion of the DOD are all irrelevant. Legally, the soldiers lost. That's all that matters. They can appeal, they can ask for a legal review and they can do any number of other things including bring a new set of injunctions if they can find some grounds but it's all beside the point, they lost.

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Yeah, it still boils down to that the soldiers lost. I wonder how many of our boys and girls are going to be not fit for duty in the next year or two.

They forced them to have it and only now do they admit the skulduggery and reindeer games being pkayed by the DOD, the FDA/CDC, and of course the jab makers.



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Injecting the children is a Pharma ploy to get liability protection against adult lawsuits, once the Emergency Authorization expires.
If kids are included...the existing vaccine liability clauses will retroactively apply to adults.



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Glad a Judge finally figured out what many of us have known since August.
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Not as long as the J**s control congress and Senate it wont.
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Oh look, there you are again.

Get lost, troll.
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Not a troll and I contribute more useful information to this forum every minute than you have your entire membership. Sheep
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Yea... being a racist piece of trailer trash is a great 'contribution'.

cruise

Let me know when you learn how to do actual research without dozens of false premises and literal logical fallacies before pretending you're smart.

You should go back to smoking meth on the D train and getting robbed by the chulos for your mouth love.

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Theres that "racist" word again. Almost as if there is no difference between the woke Left and hardcore patriot conservatives. They all call you a Nazi eventually for defending the U.S. Constitution.
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And — Comirnaty ’s approval aside — if Pfizer’s vaccines existed only under an EUA, there would only be a procedural barrier preventing the mandate. See 10 U.S.C. § 1107a(a)(1). 16 (The plaintiffs have not asserted that § 1107a(a)(1) is unconstitutional.)

Judge threw them a refile argument, but also put it out there that the Biden admin has failed to follow procedure.

Do you think Biden really wants to go on the federal record, by issuing a waiver for the EUA vaccine and having to admit it's still experimental?

You people don't understand how SLOW the legal train is.

All is not lost. I'll take the small win of the judge willing to put his remarks in the judicial record.

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Thanks TerraFirma's Esoterrorist
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Call me when this is going to change anything.
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It does actually. I just had this argument with a friend the other day and realized that I had heard Dr. McCullogh say it, and other scientists, but I would have a hard time locating that as proof that there is no approval. This I can bookmark, and send to someone as proof.
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Two other ways you can tell is that there is still no insert data available, which MUST be the case for an approved medication. Also the other EUA offerings, Moderna and J&J, are still available, which would not be allowed if there were an approved version available.
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But they clouded that up by saying they are interchangeable with the comirnaty that has the inserts.
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That's exactly what they did...they intentionally, with intent of malice and deception, obfuscated the truth.

Saying something is "interchangeable" in it's use, DOES NOT mean it's the same thing.

I can buy an OEM oil filter for my car.
I can also buy a cheap Chinese oil filter for my car.
They are interchangable, they both fit my car and both are filters.
They ARE NOT the same thing, however.
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Glad a Judge finally figured out what many of us have known since August.
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Every MSM traitor needs to be hung for not making people aware of this tyranny.
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A lot of people are going to be in deep deep shit because of all the fraud related to this fake pandemic, and these dangerous experimental non-vaccine shots.
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And that's one of the major reasons this coup will be hard stop.

They made sure there are so many dirty hands that it's almost impossible to find a target.
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exactly, "they" can only move forward with their agenda. because otherwise everyone who pushed mandates would be sued into oblivion or worse.

so, the longer I think about it, the more I convince myself there is no peaceful resolution to current situation. I will be happy to be wrong, but I really do not see how and why "they" would back off.
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I mourn the judge's suicide.
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They lost the case, no injunction relief granted.

"In conclusion, the plaintiffs have not shown they are entitled to the preliminary injunctive relief they seek"

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They lost the case, no injunction relief granted.

"In conclusion, the plaintiffs have not shown they are entitled to the preliminary injunctive relief they seek"

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They can appeal.

The judge told them exactly what they needed to base their appeal on.

I still consider this in the win category simply because the truth about the mRNA jabs not being FDA approved came out and the judge confirmed that fact.
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It's about fucking time somebody did their job!
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This is yet another bait and switch, the soldiers in the case in question lost and had their requests for injunction denied. The judge went on a spiel in his ruling that, as usual makes it clear the government is full of shit and so are the vaccine makers and specifically Pfizer but it's all irrelevant because such and such technicality wasn't satisfied so the judge ruled against the soldiers fighting the mandates. This kind of bullshit is of no help to anyone. The judges opinion of the FDA, opinion of the vaccines availability or legitimacy and opinion of the DOD are all irrelevant. Legally, the soldiers lost. That's all that matters. They can appeal, they can ask for a legal review and they can do any number of other things including bring a new set of injunctions if they can find some grounds but it's all beside the point, they lost.

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You'd be lucky to find a more than three GLPers that will read or acknowledge your comment and i bet maybe a single GLPer who will research this for themselves.
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Count me as one. I did. He is right.
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Try to copy the text. It’s at the end of the link…

It’s so beyond fucked up what this judge did.
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perhaps he did it so it.coukd be pushed up to SCOTUS, who will put the kibosh on the vaccine mandates once and for all! the mandates are not and will never be legal.
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No shit..go into any pharmacy and ask them about Comirnaty ..they will just stare at you like you’re talking gibberish
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Saw an article on Yahoo warning about a teen who got "flurona". It's a combination of flu and covid at the same time. And of course, there was a vaccine for both the flu and corona that was being developed last year and is available now. Most obvious bullshit story I've seen all week.

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We knew this right away. Lawyers were waiting bright on early on Monday to attempt to slap a restraining order on it, and they couldn't. As soon as the document was out, with 2 legally distinct items, over the weekend, on Monday, the lawyers were not able to slap any restraining order because Cominarty was not set to be produced for some time, possibly years, still had tests to do and it was not immune from liability.
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Call me when this is going to change anything.
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It does actually. I just had this argument with a friend the other day and realized that I had heard Dr. McCullogh say it, and other scientists, but I would have a hard time locating that as proof that there is no approval. This I can bookmark, and send to someone as proof.
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Friend went to doctor the other day

Doc asked if he was jabbed

He said he was waiting for FDA approvel

Doc swore that the vaccines are FDA Approved - was sure of it

Everybody: SEND THIS TO YOUR DOCTOR!!!
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It's like throwing bologna at a wall to see if it'll stick.
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You are arguing an old motion… lol

You’re actually all exposing how little you have paid attention.

Mods are mocking you by pinning this.
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To me this proves that we will ALWAYS be in a state of national emergency, forever, going forward.

The emergency declaration will never be lifted.
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This is yet another bait and switch, the soldiers in the case in question lost and had their requests for injunction denied. The judge went on a spiel in his ruling that, as usual makes it clear the government is full of shit and so are the vaccine makers and specifically Pfizer but it's all irrelevant because such and such technicality wasn't satisfied so the judge ruled against the soldiers fighting the mandates. This kind of bullshit is of no help to anyone. The judges opinion of the FDA, opinion of the vaccines availability or legitimacy and opinion of the DOD are all irrelevant. Legally, the soldiers lost. That's all that matters. They can appeal, they can ask for a legal review and they can do any number of other things including bring a new set of injunctions if they can find some grounds but it's all beside the point, they lost.

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Exactly. Nobody on here gets it though, maybe a couple of people.
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The case in the above link is not the the current case. It's dated November 12, 2021.

Wasn't this one appealed?





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