Got the HR letter re:OSHA mandate this morning. Curious about how this is playing out for others.

Please don't confuse words.

There is no "denial" or "approval" under the LAW. These are terms being issued by employers to gaslight you into think it some kind of employer discretion.

The actual terms are "accommodation made" or "cannot make accommodation due to undue hardship".

Please someone explain to me how if you have worked vax free during this entire pandemic, how now all of a sudden your unvaccinated status creates an "undue hardship"?

You can't. They can't.

Understand the law. Understand your rights.

You were "essential" before and now suddenly "unclean and a problem"?

If he takes the vax, you're gonna be a widow by March..

I know, I told him not to fold! He's really nervous, he doesn't want the vax, he just wants to test weekly.

Unless the supreme court shoots it down. Verdict could come by end of the month. Let's hope

In right to work States, there is no contract and neither party is bound. Meaning employees can walk at any time and employers can separate employees at any time for any reason.

That is the law.

I lost my software engineering job of 16.5 years (23 years in industry) on Nov. 1st for not getting vaccinated. I was the only one on my team not vaccinated.

We all had been working remote for over 2 years. Some of the other engineers on other teams that I was friends with tried the religious exemptions; they got denied and put on indefinite paid leave. 4 weeks into the leave they got termination letters from HR. They also don't get unemployment. I get it because it was considered I was not complying to company policy (to be vaccinated.)

I have not had any luck finding a new job as in some interviews they pop the vaxx question and I say "No." I am now looking for anything as I am burning through savings money fast.

I had expensive tastes like owning Maserati's etc. I was making OK money; way over 6 figures with all bennies including a pension.

Selling Maserati's, Alfa Romeo Stelvio maybe and a rare collector truck. I have lots of Gold as well but won't sell that just yet.

I stand up to tyranny as I am a Gulf war combat veteran and hate being blackmailed into something I don't want that stands against freedom. I didn't even want to attest to the vaxx question at my company; they had an HR Nazi meet with me and twist my arm. In the end, the day I got terminated I told them I had each of their names on a list for a future Nuremberg 2 trial. I told them I will volunteer my IT skills for free to bring these people to justice. I am sure they lost sleep over that which is what I intended.

Fuck you for being ok with testing and mandatory testing!! You might as well as just get the fucking vaccine and be for mandatory vaccines too seeing as the tests are every bit as bad as the vaccines. I actually have more respect for the vaxxers than the antivaxxers that are ok with mandatory testing. At least the vaxxers are all in while you antivaccine protesting idiots will fight tooth and bail against vaccine mandates but be perfectly ok with testing mandated which are just as bad. Might as well just go all the way and get vaxxed and support vaccine mandates too

Please don't confuse words.

There is no "denial" or "approval" under the LAW. These are terms being issued by employers to gaslight you into think it some kind of employer discretion.

The actual terms are "accommodation made" or "cannot make accommodation due to undue hardship".

Please someone explain to me how if you have worked vax free during this entire pandemic, how now all of a sudden your unvaccinated status creates an "undue hardship"?

You can't. They can't.

Understand the law. Understand your rights.

You were "essential" before and now suddenly "unclean and a problem"?

Companies dont care if you stand for anything. They might even save money if they fire 5-20% of the workforce.


I will be testing until I can find something better. I will not vax because I can't take it back.

Same here. My asshole CEO was jizzing himself over the chance to force his minions to take the vax. All emails from HR cited the ETS as the reason but when I backed them into a corner, asking specific questions such as “if ETS is stayed by SCOTUS will the company delay until it is ruled on?” And “if ETs is eventually ruled illegal and or unconstitutional will the company delete any info I upload or enter into the compliance portal?”

I am 100% remote and they don’t care. I’m in sales and I generate over 20x what I cost the company annually. Some colleagues in other tech firms say their companies are allowing remote workers to be untaxed but they still have to answer the questions in the portal. I got jabbed in April so I could go on vacation without hassle but I didn’t want to be forced to disclose my status or “show my papes” to HR or Legal as it’s none of their fucking business.

In their final salvo on the deadline of last Friday, which I could tell came directly from head of legal, they admitted that compliance is now company policy regardless of any decisions by SCOTUS. I have it all in writing and if possible will sue the fuck out of them later if possible for any reason at all.

In the meantime I’ve been an overly loyal employee for 18 years and now my give a shit meter is set to zero. I’m calling in sick this week and maybe next too. Next headhunter that comes along with a good opportunity will get a callback from me. I’ve not looked for a new job in 18 years.

are you not reading anything,,,,, testing is very bad... the nasal swabs are bad

I'm with you. I don't understand anyone willing to subject themselves to mandatory testing.

I'm not jabbing or testing.

My employer is a big company (15k+ employees) and, so far, hasn't required the vax but are pushing the testing for those that don't.

That's my line in the sand.

I'm going to point out to them that part of the company's VALUES is employee TRUST.

For them to require me to test, even though I show no symptoms, means they don't TRUST me. I will use their own words against them.

They will still probably terminate me, but I've sold my house already, and ready to go where needed.

Not
My
Problem

i got canned in nov for not getting jabbed. I really had an awesome team of workers i worked directly with.

I was technically remote b/c of the 'rona, but hired as an office worker; even though i was working remotely, i tol dmy manager, look, im remote, can i stay; he took it to upper management, and they said, that they wanted to have a vaccinated workforce. I was out the door.

I was waiting for the supreme court show to see how it went, and that doesn't look promising.

I'm with you. I don't understand anyone willing to subject themselves to mandatory testing.

I'm not jabbing or testing.

My employer is a big company (15k+ employees) and, so far, hasn't required the vax but are pushing the testing for those that don't.

That's my line in the sand.

I'm going to point out to them that part of the company's VALUES is employee TRUST.

For them to require me to test, even though I show no symptoms, means they don't TRUST me. I will use their own words against them.

They will still probably terminate me, but I've sold my house already, and ready to go where needed.

Yes, I've read everything. He's going to ask if he can do the at home tests. He doesn't want those swabs stuck up so far they break the brain barrier.

I lost my software engineering job of 16.5 years (23 years in industry) on Nov. 1st for not getting vaccinated. I was the only one on my team not vaccinated.

We all had been working remote for over 2 years. Some of the other engineers on other teams that I was friends with tried the religious exemptions; they got denied and put on indefinite paid leave. 4 weeks into the leave they got termination letters from HR. They also don't get unemployment. I get it because it was considered I was not complying to company policy (to be vaccinated.)

I have not had any luck finding a new job as in some interviews they pop the vaxx question and I say "No." I am now looking for anything as I am burning through savings money fast.

I had expensive tastes like owning Maserati's etc. I was making OK money; way over 6 figures with all bennies including a pension.

Selling Maserati's, Alfa Romeo Stelvio maybe and a rare collector truck. I have lots of Gold as well but won't sell that just yet.

I stand up to tyranny as I am a Gulf war combat veteran and hate being blackmailed into something I don't want that stands against freedom. I didn't even want to attest to the vaxx question at my company; they had an HR Nazi meet with me and twist my arm. In the end, the day I got terminated I told them I had each of their names on a list for a future Nuremberg 2 trial. I told them I will volunteer my IT skills for free to bring these people to justice. I am sure they lost sleep over that which is what I intended.

Unless the supreme court shoots it down. Verdict could come by end of the month. Let's hope

same here.. it is stressful as well, selling and waiting.. very disruptive.... But we must stand strong

They waited 'til the very last minute to send us the vaccination attestment form.

I remain unvaxxed, as does one other team member on a team of 6.

My company is great. I love it there. They are so good to their employees.

There's not a snowball's chance in hell I'd get the shot.

I have a feeling they will go out of their way to make sure they retain everyone they can, regardless of status.

I'm unclear as to how this applies to remote employees, because I'm practically remote as it is. I have an office, but I only go in once or twice a week.

I might be willing to get regular tests, as I think that they will go out of their way to make that convenient, perhaps on-site testing.

I'm a software developer and never have a problem finding jobs - recruiters find them for me ... and I'm not at all worried about a layoff if it comes to that. In my state you can collect unemployment insurance even if fired for cause.

So however it plays out I'll be fine.

I'd love to hear about others' experience.

I can't wait to see what happens February 9, which is the deadline to enforce the mandate.

Ah, yes, the bogus test with the PCR that was never created to be a diagnostic tool, which is exactly why they are using it to pull the wool over your eyes with a false positive.

It doesn't matter what the supreme court says...a company can do what they want
My company did it today...
A company of 50k
The supreme court ruling is meaningless to them