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Why The Kazakhstan Crisis Is A Much Bigger Deal Than Western Media Is Letting On

 
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Why The Kazakhstan Crisis Is A Much Bigger Deal Than Western Media Is Letting On
I know little to nothing about Kazakhstan other than it is a former Soviet republic, but one simple look at the map shows why it is so important to the Russians. (also borders China)

Is Nato fomenting unrest in hopes of opening a second front in a potential Ukraine conflict?


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Why The Kazakhstan Crisis Is A Much Bigger Deal Than Western Media Is Letting On


Geopolitical commentator Clint Ehrlich has reported while on the ground in Moscow that "the situation in Kazakhstan is a much bigger deal than Western media is letting on." He further argues that the mayhem unleashed this past week and ongoing violent destabilization significantly increases the risk of NATO-Russia conflict.

He asks the key question: what really is happening in Kazakhstan? After all, he writes "In America, the situation in Kazakhstan is a small news item" but it remains that "in Moscow, it is currently receiving 24/7 news coverage, like it's an apocalyptic threat to Russia's security. I've had the TV on here while writing this thread, and Kazakhstan has been on the entire time." Below is Ehrlich's mega-thread from Twitter exploring the crisis and connecting the dots in terms of why this is a bigger deal than many believe...

Mass protests and anti-government violence have left dozens dead. Russia is deploying 3,000 paratroopers after Kazakh security forces were overrun. The largest city, Almaty, looks like a warzone. To appreciate why Russia is willing to deploy troops to Kazakhstan, it's critical to understand the depth of Russia's vital national interests inside the country. This isn't just any former Soviet republic. It's almost as important to Russia as Belarus or Ukraine.

First, Russia and Kazakhstan have the largest continuous land border on planet earth. If Kazakhstan destabilizes, a significant fraction of the country's 19 million residents could become refugees streaming across the border. Russia is not willing to let that happen.

Second, roughly one-quarter of the population of Kazakhstan is ethnic Russians. Kazakh nationalists are overwhelmingly Muslims, who resent the Orthodox-Christian Russian minority. Russia believes that civil war would entail a non-trivial risk of anti-Russian ethnic cleansing.

Third, the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan was the heart of the Soviet space program. Russia still uses it as its primary space-launch facility. The Vostochny Cosmodrome in Russia's Far East will lessen that dependence, but it still isn't complete.

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Social media reports maintained that specialists in chemical protection suits were working near the lab, so, a leak of dangerous pathogens could have occurred
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Kazakh health ministry denies reports about seizure of military biological lab near Almaty

Social media reports maintained that specialists in chemical protection suits were working near the lab, so, a leak of dangerous pathogens could have occurred
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you'll witness, this week, a cascade of collapsing systems...all happening while russia and nato have Lunch.
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Ask Borat, he knows the answer.

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you'll witness, this week, a cascade of collapsing systems...all happening while russia and nato have Lunch.
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because this carnage will be real and not faked like the Arab Spring from 11 years ago, the news media does not know what to report on or how to spin it before hand.

so...they, like you, are waiting to see where the cards fall before reporting on anything.
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you'll witness, this week, a cascade of collapsing systems...all happening while russia and nato have Lunch.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81794715


because this carnage will be real and not faked like the Arab Spring from 11 years ago, the news media does not know what to report on or how to spin it before hand.

so...they, like you, are waiting to see where the cards fall before reporting on anything.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81794715


The Russian media doesn’t seem to have any problems reporting on it.
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Kazakh health ministry denies reports about seizure of military biological lab near Almaty

Social media reports maintained that specialists in chemical protection suits were working near the lab, so, a leak of dangerous pathogens could have occurred
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Kazakh health ministry denies reports about seizure of military biological lab near Almaty

Social media reports maintained that specialists in chemical protection suits were working near the lab, so, a leak of dangerous pathogens could have occurred
[link to tass.com (secure)]
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Understand it now.Just meant 1,lol.
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Kazakh health ministry denies reports about seizure of military biological lab near Almaty

Social media reports maintained that specialists in chemical protection suits were working near the lab, so, a leak of dangerous pathogens could have occurred
[link to tass.com (secure)]
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Understand it now.
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Understand it now.Just meant 1,lol.
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Can one imagine all the NWO secret stuff they have there.
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their capital was designed to be the head city of the global NWO for child trafficking and human harvesting

look it up..

it's halfway between wuhan and venice on the old silk road spice trade route.

that was their plan all along
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you'll witness, this week, a cascade of collapsing systems...all happening while russia and nato have Lunch.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81794715


because this carnage will be real and not faked like the Arab Spring from 11 years ago, the news media does not know what to report on or how to spin it before hand.

so...they, like you, are waiting to see where the cards fall before reporting on anything.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81794715


The Russian media doesn’t seem to have any problems reporting on it.
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they have no problem making all their analysis and opinions on what will unfold disappear.

western media is more cautious, so as not appear to be completely ignorant of reality.
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Astana - the NWO capital got renamed, maybe that is why some people don't get it. Oil and gas + food are Kazakh's major exports. Roughly the size of Mongolia and both create most of the Sino - Russian border. China wants it as part of the belt and road. It was likely promised to China in a secret deal. While Russia is tied down in Ukraine they pull this shit. Expect a resurgence in Georgia and Turkmenistan as well. Same muslim school in Kazakh as in Afghanistan. Could easily become Russia's second Afghan misadventure.
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their capital was designed to be the head city of the global NWO for child trafficking and human harvesting

look it up..

it's halfway between wuhan and venice on the old silk road spice trade route.

that was their plan all along
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so, what is their new plan? the old one got blowed up.
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their capital was designed to be the head city of the global NWO for child trafficking and human harvesting

look it up..

it's halfway between wuhan and venice on the old silk road spice trade route.

that was their plan all along
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so, what is their new plan? the old one got blowed up.
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they are doing that right now with the totalitarianism and vaxx restrictions you see going on..

they are getting desparate but we haven't won yet by a long shot

hold the line
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you'll witness, this week, a cascade of collapsing systems...all happening while russia and nato have Lunch.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81794715


because this carnage will be real and not faked like the Arab Spring from 11 years ago, the news media does not know what to report on or how to spin it before hand.

so...they, like you, are waiting to see where the cards fall before reporting on anything.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81794715


The Russian media doesn’t seem to have any problems reporting on it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81561219


they have no problem making all their analysis and opinions on what will unfold disappear.

western media is more cautious, so as not appear to be completely ignorant of reality.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81794715


That may have been true at one time, but now they pump out propaganda and narrative with no regards to reality.
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Ask Borat, he knows the answer.


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According to Borat, the main problems are :

*Transportation takes very long
*Kazakhstan is big
*The country is not free because of travel inefficiencies
*Some people are taking everyone's money
*Some people in leadership positions are not Kazakh at all
*These people have scary teeth
*There needs to be collective action
*After liberation, people need to have a party.
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Well Astana was built by a british lord and has a lot of ufo, pyramid themed buildings and the total recall hand print terraformer starter.
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Well away from the sea too...
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At least its not Turkmenistan. :)


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because this carnage will be real and not faked like the Arab Spring from 11 years ago, the news media does not know what to report on or how to spin it before hand.

so...they, like you, are waiting to see where the cards fall before reporting on anything.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81794715


The Russian media doesn’t seem to have any problems reporting on it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81561219


they have no problem making all their analysis and opinions on what will unfold disappear.

western media is more cautious, so as not appear to be completely ignorant of reality.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81794715


That may have been true at one time, but now they pump out propaganda and narrative with no regards to reality.
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the Arab Spring was all fun and games for them until the day Qaddafi died; then they started taking things more seriously, especially putin.

they can start their shit again; lets see how long it lasts.
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It's been Russia's barren backwoods for decades. Lot of bio-weapons labs, VX gas, nukes were done there. Wonder who activated the Muslims?
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you'll witness, this week, a cascade of collapsing systems...all happening while russia and nato have Lunch.
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People need to understand what is at hand and what is at stake.
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I know little to nothing about Kazakhstan other than it is a former Soviet republic, but one simple look at the map shows why it is so important to the Russians. (also borders China)

Is Nato fomenting unrest in hopes of opening a second front in a potential Ukraine conflict?



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Russia will start the fighting, and then China will open the Second Front.
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you'll witness, this week, a cascade of collapsing systems...all happening while russia and nato have Lunch.
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People need to understand what is at hand and what is at stake.
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some systems have been built on shaky/shady foundations. sometimes foundations get cracks; sometimes they vanish entirely. the system built upon it collapses.

no one in charge seems to have the ability or desire to shore up the foundations of the systems under their control. so it blows up.

perhaps the news media is in no position to report on the more subtle aspects of reality.

it seems obvious enough they have no desire to repair the systems they've already allowed to implode over the last few decades...Libya, Sudan, Somalia, etc. etc. etc.

so imploded they will remain.
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Ask Borat, he knows the answer.


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According to Borat, the main problems are :

*Transportation takes very long
*Kazakhstan is big
*The country is not free because of travel inefficiencies
*Some people are taking everyone's money
*Some people in leadership positions are not Kazakh at all
*These people have scary teeth
*There needs to be collective action
*After liberation, people need to have a party.
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They cannot stand that russia got in early and helped.

Otherwise you can be sure it would be bigger news.
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I know little to nothing about Kazakhstan other than it is a former Soviet republic, but one simple look at the map shows why it is so important to the Russians. (also borders China)

Is Nato fomenting unrest in hopes of opening a second front in a potential Ukraine conflict?



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Russia will start the fighting, and then China will open the Second Front.
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Yeah, then they will invade Iraq and Libya……
Oh wait.
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Hillary sated the stans, new silk road
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Can't write his name here, his name is banned here but Jim S. posted this:

RUMOR: People of Khazakstan arresting vax center people
I think this is true, but the MSM is saying the people are rebelling over high gas prices. The government has been expelled. The rumor is that the vax destroyed so many people that there was a huge rebellion over a mandatory vax mandate and everyone working at the vax centers got arrested, and the homes of government officials were burned. They have either been arrested or have fled the country.
My take is that the official story does not make sense, and that the rebellion probably really was over the vax mandates. The MSM cannot allow this to be known, it will instead crush the truth to prevent Kazakhstan from leading by example.





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