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Tidbits
(OP) User ID: 77547432 Canada 01/11/2022 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81196548 Just looked at several different packs of Marlboro bought at different places and says. Surgeon general's warning. Cigarette smoke contains carbon monoxide. And what kind of cigarette is that I dunno, hence I asked? Plus, most smokes sit for awhile (a week or two) at the shop after transport so the warnings I'm looking at are prolly from a month or so ago. Soulless fake humans are already AI. They get triggered by particular words, symbols etc. They can't really bother about the meaning. They just look for the trigger words. Their language & comprehension skills are 0. Some bots have bods, others don't. Cara Is Spirit |
Sol-tari
User ID: 77767167 Australia 01/11/2022 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's a number of different warning labels on them mate. It's not just one universal one on every packet. Quoting: Sol-tari My current packs label is about smoking around children/ while pregnent You pay $30/pack?!?!? They're more then that I think I buy rolling tobacco *Glitches May Occur. Consume(D) At Own Risk |
Sol-tari
User ID: 77767167 Australia 01/11/2022 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81196548 Just looked at several different packs of Marlboro bought at different places and says. Surgeon general's warning. Cigarette smoke contains carbon monoxide. And what kind of cigarette is that I dunno, hence I asked? Plus, most smokes sit for awhile (a week or two) at the shop after transport so the warnings I'm looking at are prolly from a month or so ago. Honestly mate I think I remember one that's about blood clots and the like... think the pic with it is of a brain, tho I don't exactly pay attention to em, and they've been around for quite a few years now. They also normally fully fill that yellow square. Something about the pic just seems off to me *Glitches May Occur. Consume(D) At Own Risk |
SoulWinner
User ID: 66609223 United States 01/11/2022 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't know about this, maybe some of you do. Quoting: Clon plebs pol 332126022 IF YOU COULD FORCE YOUR NON-CLASSICAL MONOCYTES TO UNDERGO APOPTOSIS, the vaccine would work properly. Bruce Patterson suggests using several drugs in his protocol to achieve the goals. Ivermectin kills the virus, Statins prevent the S1 protein presenting Monocytes from attaching to your cells, and several drugs (including nicotine) can induce monocyte apoptosis. When the S1 presenting Non-Classical monocytes undergo apoptosis, the S1 protein is destroyed, and the nano clotting, inflammation, etc. go away. This is also why smokers have been shown to test positive for COVID symptoms 80% less than the general population, the nicotine effectively renders them immune to the effects of the S1 protein, and thus most of COVID's symptoms. Nicotine is one substance that prevents the cytokine storm that quickly leads to death with covid and other viruses. ...Loving souls, starving trolls... |
SoulWinner
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78971867 Australia 01/11/2022 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can say with 100% certainty that these labels are from a pouch of rolling tobacco from Australia. We have had plain packaging laws here since 2011. There are about 15 different warnings that are randomly printed onto tobacco products. The message you cite in the OP has been on the packages since day dot in 2011. [link to www.health.gov.au (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78971867 Australia 01/11/2022 09:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can say with 100% certainty that these labels are from a pouch of rolling tobacco from Australia. We have had plain packaging laws here since 2011. There are about 15 different warnings that are randomly printed onto tobacco products. The message you cite in the OP has been on the packages since day dot in 2011. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78971867 [link to www.health.gov.au (secure)] I should say I'm a smoker and only buy rolling tobacco, which is also extremely expensive here. A 30g pouch of champion ruby sells for, at best, $65 AUD. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76105004 Australia 01/11/2022 09:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've never heard of Tobacco causing sudden anything besides making you vomit if you smoke too much. It takes years for it to cause heart disease, circulatory or lung issues. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75869636 My dad is over the mid 70’s pack or more a day....his entire life from young teen. My mother was dissatisfied and disappointed when his X-rays showed nothing sinister.... |
meanuser
User ID: 77086501 United States 01/11/2022 10:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can anyone verify the warning change? Blame tobacco for vax induced traumas? Quoting: Tidbits An educated friend told me way back during the tobacco lawsuits, smoking creates a mucus layer on the lungs, sinus, throat and nasal passages that makes it very difficult for viruses to to infect those areas. Non smoker's don't have this. He was convinced back then with the sudden war on smoker's, they where going to release something and really needed people to quit smoking for their plans to work. He ended it with, when ever has the .gov really given a shit about the citizen health (toxic food additives, poison and chemical crap in and on everything, etc). I smoke (roll my own, pure tobacco) not vaxed (never will) weekly travel all over the US for work (never worn a mask), worked straight through the pandemic, daily interaction with random public. If I have had covid, couldn't tell when... My smoker friends also all say the same thing. None of us know a smoker that has had covid.. (shrug) been thinking a lot lately about that conversation 20 some odd years ago. Can verify. ALSO RYO for many years. I worked on asbestos cases and the two pack a day smokers did NOT GET MESO... tar protected the lungs from the fibers embedding. MANY wives who didn't smoke got MESO from shaking out clothes, fibers in air doing laundry. Nice healthy pink lung tissue, just one fiber... Last Edited by meanuser on 01/11/2022 10:05 PM nameruse username nearmuse |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81830700 United States 01/11/2022 10:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | !!! This does not apply to storebought cigarettes or tobacco - only natural, pesticide free, organic tobacco. !!! Here are few beneficial effects of organic tobacco smoke (most not due to nicotine): 1. Upregulates glutathione (by 80%), catalase and SOD (by 100%). 2. Selective MAO B inhibition (by 40%), much safer and more harmonious with overall biochemistry than via selegiline. Smokers in their 50s have MAO B of non-smokers in their 20s. 3. Dopamine (throughout the body, including brain), acetylcholine and norepinephrine are also stimulated directly (protective & therapeutic for ADD, Tourette, anxiety, depression, schizophrenia). 4. Upregulates pregnenolone, DHEA and testosterone and slows down their decline with age (protective against endometrial cancer & endometriosis). 5. Upregulates telomerase and suppresses apoptosis (protects against Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, also via 1,2 & 3; e.g. resulting in tenfold lowered rates for early onset Alzheimer's, twelvefold for early Parkinson's; protective in strokes & spinal injuries). 6. Upregulates vascular growth factor (via nicotine CO, NO). 7. Provides CoQ10 (which is even manufactured from tobacco) & niacin directly into arterial bloodstream. 8. Upregulates neutrophiles (by 20%) 9. Reduces appetite and increase basal metabolism. 10. Suppresses amyloidosis throughout tissues, not just brain 12. Improves insulin sensitivity, protects against & alleviates diabetes. 13. Anti-inflammatory effects at multiple levels, from T-cells through CNS vagus/'cholinergic anti-inflammatory' pathway (therapeutic & protective against asthma, allergies, ulcerative colitis, IBD, colon cancer, apthous ulcers, arthritis, pre-eclampsia, endotoxemia, polymicrobial sepsis...) 14. Downregulates IGF-1 15. Downregulates NF-kB 16. Upregulates bFGF (basic fibroblast growth factor) and MMPs (expression of several matrix metalloproteinases) 17. Increases BDNF (brain-derived neurotrophic factor) expression 18. Reduces TNF-alpha and increases adiponectin (adipocyte effects) ... and so on. The net effect is that smoking animals (such as mice, rats, hamsters, dogs,... even those smoking at 5+ packs/day equivalents) live about 20% longer, stay 10-15% thinner and sharper throughout. Smokers are over-represented among supercentenarians and, among others the oldest man and the oldest women ever were smokers (the only two humans who lived over 120). The current oldest man is also a lifelong smoker. The oldest marathon runner (completed London marathon at age 101) even smoked few cigarettes during the marathon. After 6+ decades of massive efforts to demonstrate experimentally any harm at all from inhalation of tobacco smoke, pharma sponsored antismoking researchers still don't know how to shorten the lifespans of test animals via inhalation of tobacco smoke, short of gross smoke asphixiation (you could cause same kind of overdose harm with plain water and it's easier to overdose on water than on tobacco smoke). The entire antismoking "science" (sponsored and publicised mainly by Big Pharma, which battles and suppresses as much as it can all other natural & folk medicines as well) rests entirely on blind statistical correlations on non-randomized (self-selected subjects) samples of smoking with 'smoking related diseases'. Such non-randomized correlations are equally consistent with beneficial and causal role of tobacco smoke in those diseases. This is no different than observing that people using statins or blood pressure medications will have more heart attacks than those not using them. Or that people wearing sunglasses will have more sunburns and skin cancers thn those not wearing them. Sunglasses are merely a statistical marker for sun exposure. Similarly, use of tobacco smoke is a proxy for any exposure or biochemical/genetic malfunction for which the enumerated effects are protective and therapeutic. For example, the upregulation of the main internal antixoidants & detox enzymes (1), implies that tobacco smoking will protect against and alleviate the harmful effects of most industrial and environmental toxins, hence people suffering such toxic exposures, or those especially sensitive to them, would perceive tangible benefits from smoking due to doubled detox rates (this has been experimentally verified animal experiments and observed in human studies), thus they would smoke more than general population, resulting thus in statistical correlations with diseases (e.g. lung cancer, copd) caused by the very same toxins against which tobacco smoke is protective. !!! This does not apply to storebought cigarettes or tobacco - only natural, pesticide free, organic tobacco. !!! See references & further discussions here: [link to forum.grasscity.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 81830700 United States 01/11/2022 10:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | !!! This does not apply to storebought cigarettes or tobacco - only natural, pesticide free, organic tobacco. !!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81830700 Here are few beneficial effects of organic tobacco smoke (most not due to nicotine): 1. Upregulates glutathione (by 80%), catalase and SOD (by 100%). 2. Selective MAO B inhibition (by 40%), much safer and more harmonious with overall biochemistry than via selegiline. Smokers in their 50s have MAO B of non-smokers in their 20s. 3. Dopamine (throughout the body, including brain), acetylcholine and norepinephrine are also stimulated directly (protective & therapeutic for ADD, Tourette, anxiety, depression, schizophrenia). 4. Upregulates pregnenolone, DHEA and testosterone and slows down their decline with age (protective against endometrial cancer & endometriosis). 5. Upregulates telomerase and suppresses apoptosis (protects against Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, also via 1,2 & 3; e.g. resulting in tenfold lowered rates for early onset Alzheimer's, twelvefold for early Parkinson's; protective in strokes & spinal injuries). 6. Upregulates vascular growth factor (via nicotine CO, NO). 7. Provides CoQ10 (which is even manufactured from tobacco) & niacin directly into arterial bloodstream. 8. Upregulates neutrophiles (by 20%) 9. Reduces appetite and increase basal metabolism. 10. Suppresses amyloidosis throughout tissues, not just brain 12. Improves insulin sensitivity, protects against & alleviates diabetes. 13. Anti-inflammatory effects at multiple levels, from T-cells through CNS vagus/'cholinergic anti-inflammatory' pathway (therapeutic & protective against asthma, allergies, ulcerative colitis, IBD, colon cancer, apthous ulcers, arthritis, pre-eclampsia, endotoxemia, polymicrobial sepsis...) 14. Downregulates IGF-1 15. Downregulates NF-kB 16. Upregulates bFGF (basic fibroblast growth factor) and MMPs (expression of several matrix metalloproteinases) 17. Increases BDNF (brain-derived neurotrophic factor) expression 18. Reduces TNF-alpha and increases adiponectin (adipocyte effects) ... and so on. The net effect is that smoking animals (such as mice, rats, hamsters, dogs,... even those smoking at 5+ packs/day equivalents) live about 20% longer, stay 10-15% thinner and sharper throughout. Smokers are over-represented among supercentenarians and, among others the oldest man and the oldest women ever were smokers (the only two humans who lived over 120). The current oldest man is also a lifelong smoker. The oldest marathon runner (completed London marathon at age 101) even smoked few cigarettes during the marathon. After 6+ decades of massive efforts to demonstrate experimentally any harm at all from inhalation of tobacco smoke, pharma sponsored antismoking researchers still don't know how to shorten the lifespans of test animals via inhalation of tobacco smoke, short of gross smoke asphixiation (you could cause same kind of overdose harm with plain water and it's easier to overdose on water than on tobacco smoke). The entire antismoking "science" (sponsored and publicised mainly by Big Pharma, which battles and suppresses as much as it can all other natural & folk medicines as well) rests entirely on blind statistical correlations on non-randomized (self-selected subjects) samples of smoking with 'smoking related diseases'. Such non-randomized correlations are equally consistent with beneficial and causal role of tobacco smoke in those diseases. This is no different than observing that people using statins or blood pressure medications will have more heart attacks than those not using them. Or that people wearing sunglasses will have more sunburns and skin cancers thn those not wearing them. Sunglasses are merely a statistical marker for sun exposure. Similarly, use of tobacco smoke is a proxy for any exposure or biochemical/genetic malfunction for which the enumerated effects are protective and therapeutic. For example, the upregulation of the main internal antixoidants & detox enzymes (1), implies that tobacco smoking will protect against and alleviate the harmful effects of most industrial and environmental toxins, hence people suffering such toxic exposures, or those especially sensitive to them, would perceive tangible benefits from smoking due to doubled detox rates (this has been experimentally verified animal experiments and observed in human studies), thus they would smoke more than general population, resulting thus in statistical correlations with diseases (e.g. lung cancer, copd) caused by the very same toxins against which tobacco smoke is protective. !!! This does not apply to storebought cigarettes or tobacco - only natural, pesticide free, organic tobacco. !!! See references & further discussions here: [link to forum.grasscity.com (secure)] leafonly.com |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78804389 United States 01/11/2022 10:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can anyone verify the warning change? Blame tobacco for vax induced traumas? Quoting: Tidbits [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] From https://twitter.com/_/status/1480865982574993411 An educated friend told me way back during the tobacco lawsuits, smoking creates a mucus layer on the lungs, sinus, throat and nasal passages that makes it very difficult for viruses to to infect those areas. Non smoker's don't have this. He was convinced back then with the sudden war on smoker's, they where going to release something and really needed people to quit smoking for their plans to work. He ended it with, when ever has the .gov really given a shit about the citizen health (toxic food additives, poison and chemical crap in and on everything, etc). I smoke (roll my own, pure tobacco) not vaxed (never will) weekly travel all over the US for work (never worn a mask), worked straight through the pandemic, daily interaction with random public. If I have had covid, couldn't tell when... My smoker friends also all say the same thing. None of us know a smoker that has had covid.. (shrug) been thinking a lot lately about that conversation 20 some odd years ago. especially menthol. That could be why branon bi(nla)den banned menthol? |
tootoo
User ID: 81229347 United States 01/11/2022 10:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't know about this, maybe some of you do. Quoting: Clon plebs pol 332126022 IF YOU COULD FORCE YOUR NON-CLASSICAL MONOCYTES TO UNDERGO APOPTOSIS, the vaccine would work properly. Bruce Patterson suggests using several drugs in his protocol to achieve the goals. Ivermectin kills the virus, Statins prevent the S1 protein presenting Monocytes from attaching to your cells, and several drugs (including nicotine) can induce monocyte apoptosis. When the S1 presenting Non-Classical monocytes undergo apoptosis, the S1 protein is destroyed, and the nano clotting, inflammation, etc. go away. This is also why smokers have been shown to test positive for COVID symptoms 80% less than the general population, the nicotine effectively renders them immune to the effects of the S1 protein, and thus most of COVID's symptoms. Don’t believe everything you think |
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SomeRandomPerson
User ID: 79771883 United States 01/11/2022 10:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe in science NOT religion. Giving me bad karma for that, is anti-religious (you're passing judgement) I am just a man. Of no significance. Who found religion to be full of lies, and wrong doing, conflicted teachings I understand microwave communications. I do not stand for the NWO, it sucks. |