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What effect will the Metaverse have on humanity?

 
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What effect will the Metaverse have on humanity?
When the Metaverse becomes mature, most people will be spending 12 hours or more in it every day, working, socializing, purchasing goods, adventuring, etc.. The Metaverse will become to us much more important than the soon-to-be obsolete cell phone is today.

I’m old enough to have lived before cell phones were invented, -before desktop computers were invented, -even before color TV was invented. I’ve seen the huge changes each of these, and many other innovations have had on individuals and society at large.

I’m worried that the dreamworld Metaverse will nearly sever our connection with the real world, with our inner selves, and with true interaction among others. I’m worried that the Metaverse will make us even more vulnerable to crafted corporate manipulation and kill what humanity learns from the discomfort and challenges of the real world as it becomes our preferred substitute for the objective world.

What do you think will happen?
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Spending the day in your tiny apartment wearing computer monitors strapped to your eyes for 12+ hours a day sounds like a blast.

No thanks.

Only the real world for me.
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1st thing I thought of when I started reading a metaverse, idk what will happen.
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Re: What effect will the Metaverse have on humanity?
already a failed product

no one wants to exist in a world where mark cuckerberg is god
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already a failed product

no one wants to exist in a world where mark cuckerberg is god
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Are you kidding? On the face of it, it's a dream come true. Most people, not including us, don't give a damn about Mark Zuckerberg. They want fun.
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Has anyone else noticed how fear of catching COVID from each other, lockdowns, working from home, masks and social distancing play into conditioning us to want and need the Metaverse?
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Seems a bit premature for the Metaverse.
Second Life was a bust. Though some progress was made.
I simply don't know how people can afford to live in both the real world and the fake world. Most folks can't afford the real one.

Certainly there is little incentive to create a Metaverse as perverse as the liberal shit hole being created under these liberal shit heads.
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Seems a bit premature for the Metaverse.
Second Life was a bust. Though some progress was made.
I simply don't know how people can afford to live in both the real world and the fake world. Most folks can't afford the real one.

Certainly there is little incentive to create a Metaverse as perverse as the liberal shit hole being created under these liberal shit heads.
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I remember when people said color TV was impossible, -not enough bandwidth. The Metaverse is only in it's infancy now.

"I simply don't know how people can afford to live in both the real world and the fake world. Most folks can't afford the real one." That's the point. The metaverse will be most attractive to losers who've accomplished nothing real and those too poor to enjoy a real life. What they don't do or choose to spend in the real world, they can in the Metaverse. My guess is that the Metaverse will be VERY cheap, funded by advertising.
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"My guess is that the Metaverse will be VERY cheap, funded by advertising."

Subliminal advertising powered by AI
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I sure hope humanity rejects it.
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The "Metavers" doesn't even vaguely work.

The concept has been doomed to failure since conception, in our world, because of our economic approach to "making things".

The true "value" of 3D (4D, 5D, 6D, etc) has never been articulated in our commercial or social world, and has both a real world and a virtual aspect.

Only once we fix the "property market" will the "virtual property market" have a chance of working; which is the basis of the Metaverse (ie. If the constraints of a physical site are its boundary's, then the constraints of a virtual site are bandwidth and data magnitude. Once understood, and to enact the type of virtual world they are envisioning, the very nature of "trade" must change).

The "Metaverse" isn't even the first, just another failed attempt to make their Oculus, and it's unrealised business model, relevant.

There have been multiple attempts at flogging this dead virtual horse... "Second Life" being one of the most notable (lol... how are those Linden Dollars going?... Got that virtual Ferrari yet?).

The core axiom that must be considered is; Virtual experience will NEVER trump real experience.
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There won't be any metaverse for many years because you can't even buy a fuckin graphics card capable of running vr for less than 150% msrp lol

I say it will take another 5-10 years at least.

10-15 until everyone has badass graphics cards and a dope headset.
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Remember, most vr experiences have baked lighting.

The cool stuff happens when we can get global illumination and virtualized geometry in vr.

Right now, even Unreal Engine 5 doesn't support Lumen GI in vr.

Total bummer.

We're just not there yet.
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Ready Player One?
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A new prison for humanity
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Consider this: We are willing to forego all tactile and olfactory stimuli in a video game because the game is fun. Won't we be willing to do the same in a type of Metaverse? It doesn't have to involve all our senses to be captivating.
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When the Metaverse becomes mature, most people will be spending 12 hours or more in it every day, working, socializing, purchasing goods, adventuring, etc.. The Metaverse will become to us much more important than the soon-to-be obsolete cell phone is today.

I’m old enough to have lived before cell phones were invented, -before desktop computers were invented, -even before color TV was invented. I’ve seen the huge changes each of these, and many other innovations have had on individuals and society at large.

I’m worried that the dreamworld Metaverse will nearly sever our connection with the real world, with our inner selves, and with true interaction among others. I’m worried that the Metaverse will make us even more vulnerable to crafted corporate manipulation and kill what humanity learns from the discomfort and challenges of the real world as it becomes our preferred substitute for the objective world.

What do you think will happen?
 Quoting: TGus


I think it's going to make the real world less congested for those of us who reject the metaverse.

If these zombies want to live in a virtual world then let them.

Judging from all the masktards out there, I'm sure metaverse will be quite popular.
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Re: What effect will the Metaverse have on humanity?
You either learn it, get involved with it, invest in it, or you will get left behind at such a rapid pace, you'll never see straight again.

seriously...it sux, but it's happening, and will be the new "real life."
 Quoting: pud2.0


Maybe for you. Maybe for a lot of people.

There will still be a lot of us who prefer the old real world.
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Re: What effect will the Metaverse have on humanity?
Ready Player One?
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I think cuckerberg has seen that movie a few too many times.
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The metaverse will be ruled by A.I.
It will be our first real glimpse into what it's like to be inferior. It's a perfect testing ground.
Our human "chars" will know right off the bat who owns the metaverse, and we will love it.
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I haven't heard anyone mention it outside of this forum, ironically.
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Re: What effect will the Metaverse have on humanity?
You either learn it, get involved with it, invest in it, or you will get left behind at such a rapid pace, you'll never see straight again.

seriously...it sux, but it's happening, and will be the new "real life."
 Quoting: pud2.0


Maybe for you. Maybe for a lot of people.

There will still be a lot of us who prefer the old real world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81807018


Computer companies make products for their customers. If a product is not popular, they stop making it. What if the desktop computer is replaced by a pocket computer the size of a cell phone with a pair of Bluetooth viewing glasses? What if the whole internet exists only in the metaverse? What if you work at a white collar job that is performed in the metaverse?
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You need look no further than Amazon Games recent failure of New World... to see how out of touch these people are. I heard Bezos himself had a hand in New World. That game has lost almost all of its player base already, in just a couple of months... and it actually did have some appeal to gamers initially. Metaverse has no appeal at all. It is dead out of the gate.

Not to say a product won't come along to trump them all... but it won't be cuckerberg's metaturd.
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New World felt like an insane social experiment in corruption
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New World felt like an insane social experiment in corruption
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It seems like a lot of people don't believe a "metaverse" can take hold because all previous attempts at it have failed. Another group believes that they will be able to choose to opt out of it and still live "normal" lives.

To me, as a Psychologist, and someone who has seen many technologies come and be replaced over 66 years, I can see that a metaverse has the capability to replace TV, all personal computers, gaming, the internet, and cell phones. All that will be obsolete technology sooner than you think. The only way you will be able to continue with your normal activities will be to spend a significant amount of time in a metaverse.

I see this clearly, and I've never owned a cell phone.
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very little, few will use it after the novelty fades imo.
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There won't be any metaverse for many years because you can't even buy a fuckin graphics card capable of running vr for less than 150% msrp lol

I say it will take another 5-10 years at least.

10-15 until everyone has badass graphics cards and a dope headset.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77597664


Have you seen the graphics and or experienced the lag?? Lol....The metaverse. Is a nice idea....just not in practice.

Ar will be far more utile.
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There won't be any metaverse for many years because you can't even buy a fuckin graphics card capable of running vr for less than 150% msrp lol

I say it will take another 5-10 years at least.

10-15 until everyone has badass graphics cards and a dope headset.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77597664


Have you seen the graphics and or experienced the lag?? Lol....The metaverse. Is a nice idea....just not in practice.

Ar will be far more utile.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80430526


If it's usable in 5-10 years, then it will be popular then. So, how does that change us?
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Metaverse is just a really lame attempt to try and make Facebook relevant again.

Zuckerberg was pushing "virtual reality" over a decade ago. It never went anywhere. Either will this.
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I have lived like you , before color rv. I agree with your thoughts. People will live in their alternate world being paid by the government to exist. You think there’s useless eaters now ? Wait a few years.
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When the Metaverse becomes mature, most people will be spending 12 hours or more in it every day, working, socializing, purchasing goods, adventuring, etc.. The Metaverse will become to us much more important than the soon-to-be obsolete cell phone is today.

I’m old enough to have lived before cell phones were invented, -before desktop computers were invented, -even before color TV was invented. I’ve seen the huge changes each of these, and many other innovations have had on individuals and society at large.

I’m worried that the dreamworld Metaverse will nearly sever our connection with the real world, with our inner selves, and with true interaction among others. I’m worried that the Metaverse will make us even more vulnerable to crafted corporate manipulation and kill what humanity learns from the discomfort and challenges of the real world as it becomes our preferred substitute for the objective world.

What do you think will happen?
 Quoting: TGus


It brings to mind an old episode of the outer limits from the 90's.....a virtual world was created and everybody began accessing it through a VR pod...people started spending all their time in the these pods.....

If I remember correctly, eventually people started dying -----they spent so much time in their VR pods that they stopped eating and drinking in real life .....society fell apart because everyone spent all their time in the vr world and daily tasks were ignored, work was ignored, etc....because it wasn't "pleasurable"

pretty creepy how its coming to pass





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