The Camera of Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon contains chilling photos that can't be explained

The rolled up skin made me think of frazzled drip

The rolled up skin made me think of frazzled drip

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Always bring your dogs with you on a hike. I live in a very safe town, this one morning I couldn't sleep so I figured I would do my dog hike around the pond early, it was about 5:30 am. I hear strange rustling in the woods but can't see anything like in Lost and I am thinking it is a deer. We get to a place where there is a path where dogs can go to drink and there non chalantly was a big young man just hanging out by himself, no pets. I said hi, we chatted a bit but he kept staring at my dog and especially my dogs leather leash. It was weird and I knew he was thinking bad thoughts. I decided to continue on and he began to follow but my dog let him know, No Way! He growled and would not let him follow me by blocking his path. I went home and thought what if I had no dog with me that morning and why was he obsessing on the dogs leather leash. Also my dog normally would never behave like that to another hiker so the dog definitely knew he was a predator

Last Edited by KuvaszLove on 01/23/2022 07:21 AM

agreed!
photos prove he lied about time he dropped them off.

That's scary....

Simple, the two girls ran into the most dangerous creature(s) on earth... man. The clean cut of the ankle should tell you everything. Don’t have a lot of sympathy for them, stupid choices got them killed. The world is not sunshine and flowers... but a brutal, unforgiving place that will chew you up and spit you out.

The Dutch Special Forces should have gone a special mission to Panama to deal some much needed retribution to those involved. One can only dream.

Firstly I note they left one week after MH370 disappeared and they left from the Netherlands.


They were meant to start work on April 1st (41) - which fell through.

hosted in alto boquet

8.645247, -82.437569
utm 341815.8 953718.6


341815 easting at -2.953718 = Tay Bridge Dundee - tweek numbers back and forth for direct hits - but anyway Tay Bridge appears to be a codename for a trafficking route from Far East through Kazakhstan.




This story is a parallel for other events i.e. coded to give another message - possibly re transit of those related to MH370 - possibly passengers from the plane.




It appears to me that possibly none of the emergency services calls were placed by the girls/ passengers - but by someone who held them - someone trying to get a message signal or location out: either girl would have attempted a different call or text.

After some time - perhaps an attempt was made to unlock the phone to send a text or get a phone number to call of family or friend - and though it appears to have been Lisanne with Kris - not there or in possession of her phone.



The prosthetics is interesting - as we have a tendency to automatically believe the accounts of a coroner or forensics analysis which may just as easily be a lie - in the same way local authorities, taxis, police etc may all be complicit as a group - even the school who made the booking for the girls to work then cancelled it - to get the girls there - and get them off hiking - for the purpose of creating the coded message.


In that sense - the girls may have been alive much longer or still be alive.


I believe there will be other coordinate matches to another/ other world locations.


The long periods the phones were dark may indicate flight or transit time - the period of 10.51 to 11.51 - is exactly one hour - on April 11th - 411 - such as the time allowed for wifi at an airport - you switch on and connect for one hour. It is exact.

It just says the phone was on then off at these times - it does not say how this is known or if call attempts were made during this one hour.


I believe this event was orchestrated and coded to reveal details about the whereabouts of the MH370 passengers/-


The left foot - it is possible this is a message re - tag or transmitters put in the left foot of people - like GPS locaters - like dolphins have etc. Half a pelvis and roll of skin - may be symbolic of similar - meaning the signal is gone.

Last Edited by HairyBarbarian on 01/24/2022 08:53 AM

Who?

The dark images - and jungle images is interesting - this may be a communication re location - but they say it has never been found - jungle dirt walks - we had at the time the dark picture sent allegedly by Woods stamped with location Diego Garcia at the time.

I don't know if it is possible to access digital cameras or phones by trojan and to take pictures with them - phones yes - the digital camera? Possibly. I would be very surprised if attempts were not made to trojan the devices of the MH370 passengers.



We have a time frame given in this story of seventy days - so we know some passengers were alive for at least that long - in my opinion current as of today.

Who are their parents? What professions?


Amersfoort is mentioned - as where the girls met.


I believe there is additional coding in the clip - ambulance email and airport shots used to illustrate - check it out.

Can someone give crib notes? A quick explainer? Never heard of this.

Put Mr Kremers and mr Froon in location on gridref MGR

035789 , 389890


Lock Keepers Cottage

Tullamore

Grand Canal


Panama Canal


just notes to fill in later


6038019 will probs give a close match for UTM Grand Canal Tullamore


OK I will look now



53.279094 , -7.4659995


Its just metres south


SF 35789 89739

We chatted a bit.

Women need to be taught to tella freak like that that if he ever sneaks around again you will fuk him up. Take a picture and email it friend.

Now he ready to chat up another victim.

But a women would rather tell her story then really help someone else?

It appears to me to be saying that the Dutch had involvement with the disappearance of MH370 and the transit of passengers - plus cargo passengers.

I recall the Prune Pilot forum stating that a signal was collected from Schiphol Amsterdam from the flight; I recall the Chinese leader meeting the dutch leader in person some time after; I recall MH17 allegedly left Schiphol and crashed in Ukraine in the July of the same year.

I recall the references to immuno doctors.

I recall the bioweapon hazard re the navy seals found dead on the Ma---- Alabama - in Seychelles - shipping people from Somalia and horn of Africa - destined for MH 370.



From studying the details the plane which left Schiphol diverted - and the plane shot down came in from India - hence the direction it was facing on crash - it was supposed to deliver the dead to Schiphol, but Modi did a deal to shoot it down - he was in the air at the same time - very close by - during the radar jamming nato op Seabreeze in the Black Sea at the same time - when Kiev ATC was taken over and the skies went dark for MH17.


This disappearance of these girls is referencing Dutch involvement.


The last couple of minutes of the video is quite ominous in my opinion.

350973 , 730063

easting northing - monifieth - they just dragged a woman out of the water here about 3 days ago.

ok if thats your theory better check 411 can am project on youtube. There are thousands missing the same way.

Yeah go back in time to 5.30 on that day and take a picture and email it friend.


Like that is going to happen.

When I hear about something like this, I feel very sad, thinking of those poor people... but I also feel this huge rage mounting inside me...

"sad"

or sick rather...

You should have reported the incident to the police. They might say they can't do anything as nothing happened, but it's a piece of information that could sometime be useful. And even so, maybe they actually will do something based on the description you might have given them.

I have seen plenty of 411 and 114 bro. From memory also I think Wuhan is longitude 114 -


look


30.574661, 114.295370



035746 - mgr - tullamore grand canal east

-7.466 longitude match


350746 - MGR east Dundee - at -2.95370 for Tay Bridge/ Monifieth area.


There are two seafood markets nearby - one sse and one nnw of that point.


check it out - post code 430019


xx

I didn't watch the video yet, so I don't know what area or country this happened in, but when you learn of stuff like this, it gives you a feeling there might indeed be countries where in some areas, locals might be kind of specialized in this sort of crime.

Maybe 10 years ago or more, I heard of a Belgian (or French) lady who was kidnapped somewhere in some African country (forgot what country) and taken to some remote village where she was kept a prisoner. Everyone in the village knew about her presence and being held prisoner. I still remember she was threatened with being cut into little pieces if her relatives didn't pay a sizable amount of money.

I don't know how this ended BTW but I guess she was let go in the end, as otherwise we would probably never known about this.

It’s their bloody heritage. South and Central Americans are mostly descendants of Mayans, Aztecs and Incas who practiced wholesale human sacrifice on a scale that would have made Pol Pot envious. It’s in their genetics.

Interesting

check this out

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the number of now deceased people associated with the case - sounds suspicious - very suspicious.


I have found number correlation between the region's coordinates and the Grand Canal Tullamore - re Ashling Murphy - and between there and Baikonur Cosmodrome - which is where - someone said MH370 landed - which is in Kazakhstan - which is internet dark - not sure if all - and apparently Baikonur is being closed down and a new facility is being built.


It is in zone 41 - which is the route through Alto Boquete - from memory.


I think people get disappeared/murdered to give messages about POW/ labour/ death camps.

Last Edited by HairyBarbarian on 01/25/2022 12:37 AM

take latitude 523739 and utm north 5830981

write this as 523737 5803981 as east and west in utm zone 41

this takes you to 45.908987, 63.306076

Baikonur Cosmodrome - Kazakhstan

coordinates from here


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line 41 here could mean zone 41


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it also says present day which is 41 - 4th January

the next edit mentions the flood and reference 6 wharfage - the evacuation and a number of similar coordinates: Flood barriers erected along the Wharfage - ironbridge evacuated - this could be a coded message.

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the last coordinate given is:
52°37'46.3"N 2°29'32.1"W
52.629514, -2.492247

You COULD use the 523746 and corresponding UTM north in zone 41, however:

You could ALSO use the 523746 as latitude and note the corresponding Baikonur partial 629514 to give you your longitude - elsewhere - but where?

Well - the time of the edit is 12:35/ 5 Jan
12 on a clock is zero - which is then 03551-
and the 629514 as East UTM with 5830981 gives

52.613373, -7.087085

county Kilkenny in Ireland

this is

SF 55768 13894

this is not 03551-

so we swap this in:

SF 35510 13894

this is

52.600172 , -7.3849763

the next edit:

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highlights cn - citation needed

c=3

n=14 on a clock = 2

this is telling us our coordinate 52-37-46 needs to be 53-27-46 so we put this in:

which takes us to

MGR SF 41145 88829

which is 53.2746 , -7.3850000

but the 3551 is now 4114 - so we put it back in:

SF 35510 88829

= 53.270760 , -7.4691221

This is Cloncollig Industrial Estate, Tullamore Rural ED, The Municipal District of Tullamore/ Offally

but now we have 53.2707 and not 53-27-46

so we put it in:

which gives Tullamore bypass at

SF 35543 89256

now we need the 3551 again

SF 35510 89258

which is

53.2746 , -7.4696112

Tullamore

so we put this into the utm converter:

east 602049.4 north 5903910.7

this shows us that 629514 needs/ed to be 6029514

which is here

53.274425, -7.456080

Tullamore

Near the Grand Canal


So now we have a connection between the Baikonur Launchpads Space Facility in Kazakhstan - something about a flood - an evacuation - and the grand canal - where Ashling Murphy was brutally murdered.

There is a killer on the canal.

The canal depicts a route.



This could mean the route is via Kazakhstan.



The wiki page for Grand Canal in China also gives the location for the Grand Canal in Ireland.



A large waterway is indicated.

Waters biblically and in this code type refer to people.


Normally a lot of people get taken on an ark to safety - or what is believed to be so, however - it is strongly indicated that somewhere is being evacuated - an area - because there is a savage killer on the route - who is known about. This could refer to POW personnel banging out the work in the labour camps.



While the Grand Canal China page coordinates in edits will take you to the Lock keepers Cottage by Bolands Lock - the page for the death of Ashling Murphy gives the location longitude as -7.4801

Marnie Clayton disappeared from Atik in Windsor which also has 480 in the coordinate substance.

51.480535, -0.610660

approx

The woman pulled from the river in Monifieth also has a 480 coordinate.

56.480000, -2.811553

translates to

56deg28'48.0"N 2deg48'41.6"W


and almaty is UTM north 480---


east 6-56480 north 4800000


= 43.336562, 76.930350

= Almaty Kazakhstan.




interestingly:

east 2896388 north 5640048.6


=


50.873778 0.009932


This is the Lamb Inn Pub (no longer called this now I don't think) from which Anthony Knott disappeared (later found deceased)

the coordinates given as MGR - form in lat long format:

56.4486, -2.896388


is Tay Port by the cemetery across from Monifieth by the Tay Bridge.



This is interesting because 5087377.8 as UTM north zone 41 gives the latitude for Baikonur Cosmodrome at east 523746.0


at

45.939559, 63.306334



56.45939559 is lat Monfieth - it is close to 46 - which from decimal converts to 27

27/46


anyway

Young girls traveling alone?

Yeah, good luck with that.

May they RIP.

omg yeah, at least alert the neighborhood!

I'd go with a dog AND pepper spray next time. People with ill intentions definitely give off a "vibe," too, which both you and your dog picked up on!