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Anonymous Coward User ID: 81768861 United States 01/20/2022 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 5G? I had a dream years ago that a commercial airplane crashed in our tiny town and my husband and I were sifting through the crash site to see if there were any living people. I hope that wasn't a prophetic dream. I really don't want to do that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79892814 Weird I recently had a similar dream recently except the crash was very close to home |
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580Dandman
(OP) User ID: 80910268 United States 01/20/2022 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am a former airline captain, I am out of the industry but I still keep tabs of what is going on. I have an app on my phone, it’s a free app that you can download yourself, it is called flightradar24. One of the really cool features of this app is you can have alerts set up so if an aircraft somewhere in the world declares an emergency, in the industry we call it squawking 7700, you can get a notification. I’ve had this app for years and usually you would see one to four emergencies pop up every month. That’s how it’s always been, aviation is pretty safe, there’s not a whole lot of emergencies worldwide on the monthly basis. But over the last couple of months I have been getting notifications sometimes up to 10 times a day. I’ve already had four this morning! Something huge and scary is going on out there and nobody is talking about it. I am seeing so many aircraft declaring emergencies on a daily basis, and I don’t know what the fuck is going on. You don’t have to believe me, you can download the app for yourself and set up the notifications. A lot of emergencies happening these days, I don’t know if I want to fly commercially anymore. Quoting: 580Dandman I was in the industry, too. Yes, there are a ton of “7700” squawks on a daily basis. Is 15/day too many? I mean, out of the HUNDREDS OF THIUSANDS of flights, per day? The more planes in the skies, the more frequently we see a “7700”; most are mundane emergencies that come to a safe outcome. All I know is I’ve had the app for a couple years now and I’ve always had that notification set up. It was pretty rare for it to go off, and in the last couple months it has gone off so much that I’ve almost turned the notifications off, that’s how bad I’ve noticed its gotten. As far as actual numbers of what is normal or not you got me on that one. I’m just giving you my broad general observation. Dandman |
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User ID: 58509998 United States 01/20/2022 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 5G? I had a dream years ago that a commercial airplane crashed in our tiny town and my husband and I were sifting through the crash site to see if there were any living people. I hope that wasn't a prophetic dream. I really don't want to do that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79892814 5G was my thought too. Especially after reading some of the hazards and warnings for helicopters and aircraft. The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. Winston Churchill Daily Updates Thread: ASS IS IN THE WRINGER - Rolling Updates from 11/16/20 to present (Page 235) |
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BLUENOTEBILLY
User ID: 43104389 United States 01/20/2022 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yesterdays Emergencies (1/19/22) Quoting: 580Dandman Registration: N268NN Flight Number: AA4247 Registration: CNUK01 Flight Number: 130609 Registration: 168375 Flight Number: None Registration: F-HTVR Flight Number: TO4360 Registration: 61-2666 Flight Number: None Registration: G-EMEE Flight Number: None Registration: D-472 Flight Number: None Registration: G-BYWX Flight Number: None It’s pretty wild!!! Is it possible that 5g is affecting aircraft ? Even more so is it possible the rules for declaring an emergency have changed ? Could some things often ignored now be being made an emergency hence bringing up the amount of emergencies ? stop liberal propoganda |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 81918683 01/20/2022 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are a stinking liar, captain. 7700 is an emergency squalk freq, and 7600 for loss of comms, but not all that unusual. Almost always no resulting problem bit does grant priority handling and leeway for the captain to do anything he feels necessary. Again, you are a stinking liar. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78148665 United States 01/20/2022 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yesterdays Emergencies (1/19/22) Quoting: 580Dandman Registration: N268NN Flight Number: AA4247 Registration: CNUK01 Flight Number: 130609 Registration: 168375 Flight Number: None Registration: F-HTVR Flight Number: TO4360 Registration: 61-2666 Flight Number: None Registration: G-EMEE Flight Number: None Registration: D-472 Flight Number: None Registration: G-BYWX Flight Number: None It’s pretty wild!!! Is it possible that 5g is affecting aircraft ? Even more so is it possible the rules for declaring an emergency have changed ? Could some things often ignored now be being made an emergency hence bringing up the amount of emergencies ? In my experience, take that for what it's worth, pilots are extremely level-headed, so no, I don't think there's been any change to what is considered an emergency. Something is truly happening to cause pilots to squawk. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78219446 United States 01/20/2022 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can anyone else confirm this or is this just some globalist shill trying to instill fear in people so they don't want to fly? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44883436 Sorry but until this is verified, it should be considered fiction. Can anyone else confirm this or is this just some globalist shill trying to instill fear in people so they don't want to fly? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44883436 Sorry but until this is verified, it should be considered fiction. Oh get out of here we saw an f18 turn on its name and location with the 7700 yesterday. It's real. F18s never turn on their name and location except emergency |
580Dandman
(OP) User ID: 80910268 United States 01/20/2022 01:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are a stinking liar, captain. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81918683 7700 is an emergency squalk freq, and 7600 for loss of comms, but not all that unusual. Almost always no resulting problem bit does grant priority handling and leeway for the captain to do anything he feels necessary. Again, you are a stinking liar. Former Captain, so I claim no extra knowledge or authority on the subject these days. Last Edited by 580Dandman on 01/20/2022 01:17 PM Dandman |
ThirstyMarlin
User ID: 78110098 United States 01/20/2022 01:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GLP and people in general like nice tidy answers, when in fact life is rarely that simple. Why can't all of the above answers be correct? 1. Poor Maintenance (Not enough skilled mechanics) 2. Covid Masks (Karens) 3. "JAB" causes sudden severe illness (heart attacks etc,.) 4. 5G is an aviation problem at over 500 US Airports 5. Magnetics of the earth changing 6. Young inexperienced pilots promoted to early (Covid) 7. Angry passengers (more crazies than ever) 8. ALL OF THE ABOVE & MORE Marlin! |
Mission__visible
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580Dandman
(OP) User ID: 80910268 United States 01/20/2022 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GLP and people in general like nice Quoting: ThirstyMarlin tidy answers, when in fact life is rarely that simple. Why can't all of the above answers be correct? 1. Poor Maintenance (Not enough skilled mechanics) 2. Covid Masks (Karens) 3. "JAB" causes sudden severe illness (heart attacks etc,.) 4. 5G is an aviation problem at over 500 US Airports 5. Magnetics of the earth changing 6. Young inexperienced pilots promoted to early (Covid) 7. Angry passengers (more crazies than ever) 8. ALL OF THE ABOVE & MORE Dandman |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80538668 United States 01/20/2022 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can anyone else confirm this or is this just some globalist shill trying to instill fear in people so they don't want to fly? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44883436 Sorry but until this is verified, it should be considered fiction. Can anyone else confirm this or is this just some globalist shill trying to instill fear in people so they don't want to fly? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44883436 Sorry but until this is verified, it should be considered fiction. Oh get out of here we saw an f18 turn on its name and location with the 7700 yesterday. It's real. F18s never turn on their name and location except emergency Yeah! We should all panic and dissolve into a blubbering mess every time some random person posts an unconfirmed doom thread on GLP! Get with the program! |
580Dandman
(OP) User ID: 80910268 United States 01/20/2022 01:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can anyone else confirm this or is this just some globalist shill trying to instill fear in people so they don't want to fly? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44883436 Sorry but until this is verified, it should be considered fiction. Can anyone else confirm this or is this just some globalist shill trying to instill fear in people so they don't want to fly? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44883436 Sorry but until this is verified, it should be considered fiction. Oh get out of here we saw an f18 turn on its name and location with the 7700 yesterday. It's real. F18s never turn on their name and location except emergency Yeah! We should all panic and dissolve into a blubbering mess every time some random person posts an unconfirmed doom thread on GLP! Get with the program! I don’t know about doom just yet, but I did want to say something about it so maybe some of the more experienced people here could start keeping an eye on it and see if it really is something. Dandman |
Trisherella
User ID: 81899863 United States 01/20/2022 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 5G? I had a dream years ago that a commercial airplane crashed in our tiny town and my husband and I were sifting through the crash site to see if there were any living people. I hope that wasn't a prophetic dream. I really don't want to do that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79892814 Weird I recently had a similar dream recently except the crash was very close to home Breaking Bad! Trisherella |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79892814 United States 01/20/2022 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 5G? I had a dream years ago that a commercial airplane crashed in our tiny town and my husband and I were sifting through the crash site to see if there were any living people. I hope that wasn't a prophetic dream. I really don't want to do that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79892814 Weird I recently had a similar dream recently except the crash was very close to home It my dream it was close to my home. Roughly 1/4 mile from our house. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81909276 01/20/2022 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yesterdays Emergencies (1/19/22) Quoting: 580Dandman Registration: N268NN Flight Number: AA4247 Registration: CNUK01 Flight Number: 130609 Registration: 168375 Flight Number: None Registration: F-HTVR Flight Number: TO4360 Registration: 61-2666 Flight Number: None Registration: G-EMEE Flight Number: None Registration: D-472 Flight Number: None Registration: G-BYWX Flight Number: None It’s pretty wild!!! An emergency is declared, and then they have to land early? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81902168 United States 01/20/2022 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am a former airline captain, I am out of the industry but I still keep tabs of what is going on. I have an app on my phone, it’s a free app that you can download yourself, it is called flightradar24. One of the really cool features of this app is you can have alerts set up so if an aircraft somewhere in the world declares an emergency, in the industry we call it squawking 7700, you can get a notification. I’ve had this app for years and usually you would see one to four emergencies pop up every month. That’s how it’s always been, aviation is pretty safe, there’s not a whole lot of emergencies worldwide on the monthly basis. But over the last couple of months I have been getting notifications sometimes up to 10 times a day. I’ve already had four this morning! Something huge and scary is going on out there and nobody is talking about it. I am seeing so many aircraft declaring emergencies on a daily basis, and I don’t know what the fuck is going on. You don’t have to believe me, you can download the app for yourself and set up the notifications. A lot of emergencies happening these days, I don’t know if I want to fly commercially anymore. Quoting: 580Dandman I’m a bit cynical, so I’m not going to blindly believe you’re a former pilot. You may or may not be, I don’t believe it actually is of much consequence for this thread. That being said, you stated an observation, provided a source for self-confirming, and presented evidence of your own. These are the type of threads we need more of on here. First 5* I’ve given in awhile. Nice job, nice find. Thank you for contributing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80644496 United States 01/20/2022 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Aviation professional, currently employed. 20+ flying for Part 121 Air Carrier. Quoting: Ben Kenobi Retired from flying but remain employed in training. If true OP, why haven't airlines raised red flags? I mean, if the uptick is true, the airlines would be the first to see it. Senior MGT would know before anyone else. Deferring final analysis until moar data is in, such as historical rates of emergency declarations by the crew. So far, no internal communications to indicate anything other than normal ops, as far as rate of emergency declarations are concerned. I’m not sure if you’re seeing what I’m seeing, but my opinion is that management is doing the best it can to defer to status quo operations and keep kicking the can on this, even if the grand finale is just a few months away. I suspect that the COVID airline rescue funds are casting a wide net on communications, and the United Express carriers are taking their cues from United Management on talking points. Again, Scott Kirby is saying all is good while Denver melts down is a real read between the lines situation. I’m losing my faith that the old guard have a plan to head this off. I think we’re really going to have a situation out of the Ayn Rand “Atlas Shrugged” situation where airports are suddenly going to cold and dark overnight, leaving crews and passengers stranded by the dying lights of surging APU generators as they run out of fuel. Think legal liability, discovery etc. IF, and that's a damned big IF, what OP says has legs, Airlines would be doing everything in their power to limit Corporate liability. Common Carriers have a higher Standard of Care for customers than other commercial businesses. This is why airlines must carefully weigh decisions to minimize legal exposure. Should OP be on to something, the airlines would be reacting to limit liability -- which I see ZERO evidence of ATM. They cannot kick the can down the street because each airline is privy to its own operational data obviously, so they are in a unique position to report on an increase in POTENTIAL LIABILITY. If they ignore CLEAR DATA indicating a significant DECREASE is safety they will be, again, LEGALLY LIABLE. I haven't seen enough evidence that the rate of declared 7700 events has seen a significant increase over a short time period. Oh boy, I knew I should’ve kept my mouth shut. Here’s the shitstorm prediction from somebody who knows more than me. I think the keywords here are “at the moment”. Based on my observations bad news travels in 90 days cycles, so April is when we should start seeing the fallout from this, if this is actually what it is. You’re already seeing it manifest with the contractor operators at out station airports. You pull up, we have a quick turn, Then it’s, “Oh, so sorry, we have a manpower shortage. Nobody showed up.” You can’t offload or onload bags, you can’t get fuel on time, its usually just two ramp agents running simultaneous flights. And that’s with scheduled operations, good forbid you had to divert to a station that wasn’t expecting you. Then you have delays, and crews time out. But like you said, it’s all just subjective, informal observations out on the line. I’m sure nobody In management wants to be the first one stepping forward to beat that fucking drum, especially when jobs are in short supply. Duty for care and all that discovery stuff will probably happen down the road, yes, but in the meantime we’ll either have a soft collapse or hard collapse of the industry and it will be all moot at that point. Who’s going to be the injured party to be compensated, the government? They already own all the airlines defacto due to the bail out funds. Do You think their going to care about passenger care when the SCOTUS just had to beat back the mandatory OSHA mandate on an EUA shot? I could go on and on but I’m off the opinion that were already Going through a soft collapse of the industry, and all the institutional corporate guardrails that were designed to foresee and prevent were all beaten down by the COVID emergency mandates that created a free for all legal environment. Nothing sacred anymore. |
This Vaccine Will Kill You
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OrionZydeco
User ID: 79250419 United States 01/20/2022 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Could there be a change in how emergencies are being reported, what counts as an emergency, or how the app is doing notifications? These are all ways that could give the impression of an increase of emergencies, when there really aren't any. Or, 5G. |
580Dandman
(OP) User ID: 80910268 United States 01/20/2022 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Could there be a change in how emergencies are being reported, what counts as an emergency, or how the app is doing notifications? These are all ways that could give the impression of an increase of emergencies, when there really aren't any. Quoting: OrionZydeco Or, 5G. That is one thing I did consider, perhaps the app is always continuously getting more access to more data from new countries, thereby showing an increase as these new countries come online in the app. I don’t think that’s the case, but even I definitely admit that’s a possibility. Dandman |
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Shamrock000007
User ID: 78459879 United States 01/20/2022 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | most of those 7700 emergencies that ive ever seen on flightrader24 dont end in crashes, in fact ive never seen it end in a crash. So maybe its something new but something that usually does not result in a crash.. Maybe passengers are getting bloodclots, strokes, heart attacks a lot more often because of the rushed and dangerous clot shots. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80362831 This is exactly what's happening. People are dropping like flies because their blood clots bust loose because of the pressure. |
Ben Kenobi
User ID: 78469143 United States 01/20/2022 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Aviation professional, currently employed. 20+ flying for Part 121 Air Carrier. Quoting: Ben Kenobi Retired from flying but remain employed in training. If true OP, why haven't airlines raised red flags? I mean, if the uptick is true, the airlines would be the first to see it. Senior MGT would know before anyone else. Deferring final analysis until moar data is in, such as historical rates of emergency declarations by the crew. So far, no internal communications to indicate anything other than normal ops, as far as rate of emergency declarations are concerned. I’m not sure if you’re seeing what I’m seeing, but my opinion is that management is doing the best it can to defer to status quo operations and keep kicking the can on this, even if the grand finale is just a few months away. I suspect that the COVID airline rescue funds are casting a wide net on communications, and the United Express carriers are taking their cues from United Management on talking points. Again, Scott Kirby is saying all is good while Denver melts down is a real read between the lines situation. I’m losing my faith that the old guard have a plan to head this off. I think we’re really going to have a situation out of the Ayn Rand “Atlas Shrugged” situation where airports are suddenly going to cold and dark overnight, leaving crews and passengers stranded by the dying lights of surging APU generators as they run out of fuel. Think legal liability, discovery etc. IF, and that's a damned big IF, what OP says has legs, Airlines would be doing everything in their power to limit Corporate liability. Common Carriers have a higher Standard of Care for customers than other commercial businesses. This is why airlines must carefully weigh decisions to minimize legal exposure. Should OP be on to something, the airlines would be reacting to limit liability -- which I see ZERO evidence of ATM. They cannot kick the can down the street because each airline is privy to its own operational data obviously, so they are in a unique position to report on an increase in POTENTIAL LIABILITY. If they ignore CLEAR DATA indicating a significant DECREASE is safety they will be, again, LEGALLY LIABLE. I haven't seen enough evidence that the rate of declared 7700 events has seen a significant increase over a short time period. Oh boy, I knew I should’ve kept my mouth shut. Here’s the shitstorm prediction from somebody who knows more than me. I think the keywords here are “at the moment”. Based on my observations bad news travels in 90 days cycles, so April is when we should start seeing the fallout from this, if this is actually what it is. You’re already seeing it manifest with the contractor operators at out station airports. You pull up, we have a quick turn, Then it’s, “Oh, so sorry, we have a manpower shortage. Nobody showed up.” You can’t offload or onload bags, you can’t get fuel on time, its usually just two ramp agents running simultaneous flights. And that’s with scheduled operations, good forbid you had to divert to a station that wasn’t expecting you. Then you have delays, and crews time out. But like you said, it’s all just subjective, informal observations out on the line. I’m sure nobody In management wants to be the first one stepping forward to beat that fucking drum, especially when jobs are in short supply. Duty for care and all that discovery stuff will probably happen down the road, yes, but in the meantime we’ll either have a soft collapse or hard collapse of the industry and it will be all moot at that point. Who’s going to be the injured party to be compensated, the government? They already own all the airlines defacto due to the bail out funds. Do You think their going to care about passenger care when the SCOTUS just had to beat back the mandatory OSHA mandate on an EUA shot? I could go on and on but I’m off the opinion that were already Going through a soft collapse of the industry, and all the institutional corporate guardrails that were designed to foresee and prevent were all beaten down by the COVID emergency mandates that created a free for all legal environment. Nothing sacred anymore. All good points friend. Time will tell as in all things. Lets hope the predicted soft collapse (which I don't disagree with in general) is NOT severe or long lived. I also agree that manpower is definitely an issue. ~These aren't the tards you're looking for~ :seal::rastabanan: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80608675 Canada 01/20/2022 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am a former airline captain, I am out of the industry but I still keep tabs of what is going on. I have an app on my phone, it’s a free app that you can download yourself, it is called flightradar24. One of the really cool features of this app is you can have alerts set up so if an aircraft somewhere in the world declares an emergency, in the industry we call it squawking 7700, you can get a notification. I’ve had this app for years and usually you would see one to four emergencies pop up every month. That’s how it’s always been, aviation is pretty safe, there’s not a whole lot of emergencies worldwide on the monthly basis. But over the last couple of months I have been getting notifications sometimes up to 10 times a day. I’ve already had four this morning! Something huge and scary is going on out there and nobody is talking about it. I am seeing so many aircraft declaring emergencies on a daily basis, and I don’t know what the fuck is going on. You don’t have to believe me, you can download the app for yourself and set up the notifications. A lot of emergencies happening these days, I don’t know if I want to fly commercially anymore. Quoting: 580Dandman Think about it. There are manufacturing shortages. Chip shortages. Parts shortages. Aircraft need maintenance like everything else. They've been cutting corners and jimmy-rigging fixes. But they only last for so long before they fail. With shortages getting worse, expect a lot more mechanical failures ..... on the roads and in the air. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80361285 United States 01/20/2022 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am a former airline captain, I am out of the industry but I still keep tabs of what is going on. I have an app on my phone, it’s a free app that you can download yourself, it is called flightradar24. One of the really cool features of this app is you can have alerts set up so if an aircraft somewhere in the world declares an emergency, in the industry we call it squawking 7700, you can get a notification. I’ve had this app for years and usually you would see one to four emergencies pop up every month. That’s how it’s always been, aviation is pretty safe, there’s not a whole lot of emergencies worldwide on the monthly basis. But over the last couple of months I have been getting notifications sometimes up to 10 times a day. I’ve already had four this morning! Something huge and scary is going on out there and nobody is talking about it. I am seeing so many aircraft declaring emergencies on a daily basis, and I don’t know what the fuck is going on. You don’t have to believe me, you can download the app for yourself and set up the notifications. A lot of emergencies happening these days, I don’t know if I want to fly commercially anymore. Quoting: 580Dandman I'm in IT and I've never seen an influx of such idiocy and incompetence as I've seen with the Millennial generation entering the work force. Figure it out from there, and no thanks to downloading the nerdy airplane app. |