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User ID: 77947460 United States 01/29/2022 06:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The 1983 nuke attack false alarm incident and the danger of mistakes and miscalculation vis-a-vis Ukraine A nuclear response would be understandable if they detected that we were firing massive amounts of nuclear weapons in a first-strike attempt to quickly cripple their ability to respond with nuclear weapons, but it strikes me as idiocy to consider a nuclear response when only a few potential intercontinental ballistic missiles are in the air. It makes no sense for us to do that. Why would we only fire a few ballistic missiles in a first-strike attack? The whole point of a first strike attack is to cripple the other nation's ability to respond, and five missiles cannot do that. Even if all five hit, the Soviet Union would have been able to respond in full. I'm glad those in charge had an IQ high enough to realize things were not as they appeared. Last Edited by WalrusRider on 01/29/2022 06:18 AM All billionaires, banksters, and people in high-ranking positions of power (both public and private) who have not openly and strongly come out against woke ideology and globalism are our enemies - as are their minions. They are the NWO. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79877319 United States 01/29/2022 06:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The 1983 nuke attack false alarm incident and the danger of mistakes and miscalculation vis-a-vis Ukraine Judging by the red karma, this thread has really hit a nerve with GLP's resident Neocon dual-citizen traitor-bots, you know: the ones that shill for war but don't have the guts to go to the front lines. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15411642 Ireland 01/29/2022 06:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The 1983 nuke attack false alarm incident and the danger of mistakes and miscalculation vis-a-vis Ukraine Never heard of it(1983 incident as i was 8 at that time, and i never heard of it). Growing up in 1980s london, as a kid, i never heard of cold war. We mainly heard of ira vs uk gov war. I never once heard about nuclear weapons at school, and really the only concept of cold war i got from movies, like rocky 4. Todays world is not another cold war, and is far more dangerous, but people do not appreciate that. |
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User ID: 81986953 China 01/29/2022 06:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The 1983 nuke attack false alarm incident and the danger of mistakes and miscalculation vis-a-vis Ukraine Thanks Op interesting. With great single star replacement i see new mods who are not cia shilling. Will be unexplainable to the rest and above. Lol YAHshua the sound of His Name in English, YAH is short form of YHVH, Bible.PRAYERBOOK.Praisebook DOWNLOADs [link to www.docdroid.net (secure)] [link to pdfhost.io (secure)] [link to www.docdroid.net (secure)] |
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User ID: 80346963 United States 01/29/2022 06:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The 1983 nuke attack false alarm incident and the danger of mistakes and miscalculation vis-a-vis Ukraine So glad there's a sensible man like Putin in charge of Russia. Some thought Reagan was a doddering old man but he seemed youthful compared to Biden. Gen. John B Gordon and Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest were the finest citizen-soldiers birthed in America. |
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User ID: 81986953 China 01/29/2022 06:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The 1983 nuke attack false alarm incident and the danger of mistakes and miscalculation vis-a-vis Ukraine now it makes me woder how deluded lower level cia/fbi/nsa ops/shills/moles are, and what substance/stockholm syndrome abuse they went through to be so anti constitionalist now? abuse by foebiden at an early age, fear of arkancide or obamaNation drugfesting with hunter? Last Edited by FHL(C) on 01/29/2022 06:55 AM YAHshua the sound of His Name in English, YAH is short form of YHVH, Bible.PRAYERBOOK.Praisebook DOWNLOADs [link to www.docdroid.net (secure)] [link to pdfhost.io (secure)] [link to www.docdroid.net (secure)] |
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User ID: 81986953 China 01/29/2022 07:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The 1983 nuke attack false alarm incident and the danger of mistakes and miscalculation vis-a-vis Ukraine There's a simple way for Putin to de-escalate and prevent war. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76643816 Don't invade Ukraine. dont you understand how valueless you are to the overlords of your ABC orginizational structures bosses, that you are, first up against the wall when you accomplish your task,.rothschilds one o one YAHshua the sound of His Name in English, YAH is short form of YHVH, Bible.PRAYERBOOK.Praisebook DOWNLOADs [link to www.docdroid.net (secure)] [link to pdfhost.io (secure)] [link to www.docdroid.net (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76824660 United States 01/29/2022 07:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The 1983 nuke attack false alarm incident and the danger of mistakes and miscalculation vis-a-vis Ukraine There's a simple way for Putin to de-escalate and prevent war. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76643816 Don't invade Ukraine. dont you understand how valueless you are to the overlords of your ABC orginizational structures bosses, that you are, first up against the wall when you accomplish your task,.rothschilds one o one That's some classic shilling there, including some really good propaganda buzzwords. BTW, is it cold in Beijing tonight? |
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User ID: 81069379 United States 01/29/2022 07:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The 1983 nuke attack false alarm incident and the danger of mistakes and miscalculation vis-a-vis Ukraine Never heard of it(1983 incident as i was 8 at that time, and i never heard of it). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15411642 Growing up in 1980s london, as a kid, i never heard of cold war. We mainly heard of ira vs uk gov war. I never once heard about nuclear weapons at school, and really the only concept of cold war i got from movies, like rocky 4. Todays world is not another cold war, and is far more dangerous, but people do not appreciate that. I vaguely remember it. I was 25 at the time. It was a tiny one-time headline in the back pages of the newspapers. Nothing at all happened and people either failed to see the headline or forgot about it. Last Edited by BigSister on 01/29/2022 07:33 AM Your BigSister has some sage advice and opinions to offer characterized by wisdom, prudence, and good judgment through reflection and experience if you will receive it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80145438 United States 01/29/2022 07:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The 1983 nuke attack false alarm incident and the danger of mistakes and miscalculation vis-a-vis Ukraine All jokes and insults aside, the risk of a serious miscalculation is very high, and both sides are to blame. Russia is to blame because of its "escalate to de-escalate" policy of brinksmanship, and Putin's inability to back down. The U.S is to blame because it refuses to believe that Putin will back up his threats with action, and so they are escalating on the assumption that he will back down. Biden cannot back down because caving in to Putin's demands would (1) probably cost him the mid-terms; (2) cost him the election in 2024; and (3) signal the end of the NATO alliance. Putin cannot back down because (1) backing down to the Americans on Russia's national security guarantees would be political suicide; (2) he has already vowed to never back down on these demands; and (3) the legacy he has built for 22 years would be completely ruined. So, this leaves the two sides at a deadlock. Putin watched the USSR collapse with his own eyes while he was stationed in Dresden as a KGB officer. This affected him deeply. He made it his life's work to restore Russia's prestige and put NATO in checkmate. This is his big moment. Right now. What he has waited for. For 22 years. One false move..... |
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User ID: 78452779 Netherlands 01/29/2022 08:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The 1983 nuke attack false alarm incident and the danger of mistakes and miscalculation vis-a-vis Ukraine Russia feels threatened (or at least Putin). NATO is meant to defend its members, but from a Russian perspective, that is not reassuring. Hitler's demands in 1936 appeared reasonable as the Rhineland is German land. And even though Putin does not appear like a Hitler, he still appears like a mafia boss who tries to expand his turf. Last Edited by niphtrique on 01/29/2022 08:52 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79707302 United States 01/29/2022 08:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The 1983 nuke attack false alarm incident and the danger of mistakes and miscalculation vis-a-vis Ukraine So progressive democrat DUMBASSES think they are taking on Russia? Lets see... Russia has 950,000 active combat troops with reserves placing them past 20 million 12,270 modern battle tanks 26,831 armored vehicles 18,497 artillery pieces 6,532 self-propelled rocketry 4,359 rocket artillery 5,552 fighter & strike aircraft 1,724 attack helicopters 4,106 anti-aircraft missile batteries 28,403 anti-aircraft pieces oh yeah.... 5,004 nuclear weapons. Biden isn't going to do jack crap and everybody knows it. [link to armedforces (secure)] . eu/ compare/country_Ukraine_vs_Russia |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79877319 United States 01/29/2022 08:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The 1983 nuke attack false alarm incident and the danger of mistakes and miscalculation vis-a-vis Ukraine So progressive democrat DUMBASSES think they are taking on Russia? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79707302 Lets see... Russia has 950,000 active combat troops with reserves placing them past 20 million 12,270 modern battle tanks 26,831 armored vehicles 18,497 artillery pieces 6,532 self-propelled rocketry 4,359 rocket artillery 5,552 fighter & strike aircraft 1,724 attack helicopters 4,106 anti-aircraft missile batteries 28,403 anti-aircraft pieces oh yeah.... 5,004 nuclear weapons. Biden isn't going to do jack crap and everybody knows it. [link to armedforces (secure)] . eu/ compare/country_Ukraine_vs_Russia Biden will do what he is told, god help us all! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79168241 Netherlands 01/29/2022 08:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The 1983 nuke attack false alarm incident and the danger of mistakes and miscalculation vis-a-vis Ukraine We are always just one fuck-up away from WWIII: Quoting: Et Sano "On 26 September 1983, the nuclear early-warning radar of the Soviet Union reported the launch of one intercontinental ballistic missile with four more missiles behind it, from bases in the United States. These missile attack warnings were suspected to be false alarms by Stanislav Petrov, an officer of the Soviet Air Defence Forces on duty at the command center of the early-warning system. He decided to wait for corroborating evidence—of which none arrived—rather than immediately relaying the warning up the chain-of-command. This decision is seen as having prevented a retaliatory nuclear attack against the United States and its NATO allies, which would likely have resulted in an escalation to a full-scale nuclear war. Investigation of the satellite warning system later determined that the system had indeed malfunctioned..." [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Maybe American and ALL AMERICANS Should focus on their stolen election. Whole world see that USA has allowed an election to be stolen. Banana republic? (Sorry not to offend banana) You see what I say? What is wrong with USA? What happen to strong USA soldiers? Why you allow this? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79707302 United States 01/29/2022 08:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The 1983 nuke attack false alarm incident and the danger of mistakes and miscalculation vis-a-vis Ukraine All jokes and insults aside, the risk of a serious miscalculation is very high, and both sides are to blame. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80145438 Russia is to blame because of its "escalate to de-escalate" policy of brinksmanship, and Putin's inability to back down. The U.S is to blame because it refuses to believe that Putin will back up his threats with action, and so they are escalating on the assumption that he will back down. Biden cannot back down because caving in to Putin's demands would (1) probably cost him the mid-terms; (2) cost him the election in 2024; and (3) signal the end of the NATO alliance. Putin cannot back down because (1) backing down to the Americans on Russia's national security guarantees would be political suicide; (2) he has already vowed to never back down on these demands; and (3) the legacy he has built for 22 years would be completely ruined. So, this leaves the two sides at a deadlock. Putin watched the USSR collapse with his own eyes while he was stationed in Dresden as a KGB officer. This affected him deeply. He made it his life's work to restore Russia's prestige and put NATO in checkmate. This is his big moment. Right now. What he has waited for. For 22 years. One false move..... Biden has already lost 2024, the clown is finished. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80237028 United States 01/29/2022 08:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The 1983 nuke attack false alarm incident and the danger of mistakes and miscalculation vis-a-vis Ukraine Petrov was ultimately shunned and passed over for technically violating protocol even though he likely saved humanity. I remember him being interviewed as a pensioner in a small hovel near Moscow. |
Bean223
User ID: 80515647 United States 01/29/2022 08:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The 1983 nuke attack false alarm incident and the danger of mistakes and miscalculation vis-a-vis Ukraine OP is right This is a war the left in the west want. Putins no saint, but he's not pulling the hangman's rope. NOTICE from 2016 to 2020 THIS WAS NOT A ISSUE anymore. Now.....it seems to be. Maybe they're serious about it, or maybe it's just another distraction Cant say |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79877319 United States 01/29/2022 08:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The 1983 nuke attack false alarm incident and the danger of mistakes and miscalculation vis-a-vis Ukraine We are always just one fuck-up away from WWIII: Quoting: Et Sano "On 26 September 1983, the nuclear early-warning radar of the Soviet Union reported the launch of one intercontinental ballistic missile with four more missiles behind it, from bases in the United States. These missile attack warnings were suspected to be false alarms by Stanislav Petrov, an officer of the Soviet Air Defence Forces on duty at the command center of the early-warning system. He decided to wait for corroborating evidence—of which none arrived—rather than immediately relaying the warning up the chain-of-command. This decision is seen as having prevented a retaliatory nuclear attack against the United States and its NATO allies, which would likely have resulted in an escalation to a full-scale nuclear war. Investigation of the satellite warning system later determined that the system had indeed malfunctioned..." [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Maybe American and ALL AMERICANS Should focus on their stolen election. Whole world see that USA has allowed an election to be stolen. Banana republic? (Sorry not to offend banana) You see what I say? What is wrong with USA? What happen to strong USA soldiers? Why you allow this? |
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