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IMPORTANT: Romans 13 - an interpretation you haven't heard before

 
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Re: IMPORTANT: Romans 13 - an interpretation you haven't heard before
The Bible and Koran are Anunnaki constructs. If you worship Yahweh/Jehovah or Allah you are giving your soul away to the slave masters of this planet during the Kali Yuga or dark age.

They will be coming back for their human harvest.

Don't get caught in their trap.
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People never read Romans 1:7

"To all that be in Rome"

If you're not in Rome, then you don't have to "obey the government".
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Romans 13
1 Let every being be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from Elohim, and the authorities that exist are appointed by Elohim.

2 So he who opposes the authority withstands the institution of Elohim, and those who withstand shall bring judgment on themselves.

3 For those ruling are an object of fear, not to good works, but to evil. Do you wish to be not afraid of the authority? Do the good, and you shall have praise from it,

4 for it is a servant of Elohim to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid, for it does not bear the sword in vain. For it is a servant of Elohim, a revenger to execute wrath on him who practises evil.


NO UPRISING.

Zeph 3:8

77.
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Elohim were where the fallen fame from. Elohim plus Man equals Nephilim

Those who do not enjoy being in subjection are considered as standing with Elohim? And thus bring themselves judgemen t ?

But if the Elohim story stands as true..doesn't that mean those who do not like being in subjection are siding with those who created us?
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Re: IMPORTANT: Romans 13 - an interpretation you haven't heard before
Just more bullshit from the apologists

Romans 13 says God appoints government and to obey it

it does NOT specify not to obey it if the government goes bad

and who is to decide if government is good or bad?

You?

God appointed the government, not you.

The truth is not in the Bible

No one has any authority over another

God is a meme being used to establish tyranny

all governments are tyrannical

go disobey any law in any government at any time in history and see what happens

tyranny happens because the state has a monopoly on force and you are not even allowed to resist even for failure to appear or failure to pay


SO WILL YOU CHRISTIANS PLEASE SHUT THE HELL UP

YOUR RELIGION IS TYRANNY AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77998499


You have a fundamental misunderstanding of Christianity and the verses in the OP video.

For example, see how government is identified in Romans 13:3. See the conditions that determine it in that verse. If I call myself "government", does that make me so? Can anyone just call themselves "government" and it is so, like how some leftists lie and say they are a woman when they are not?

See 1 Samuel 8. You will see how the people don't want God and want tyranny, but God warns them against it, but the people still rather have a tyranny rather than trust in God.

The reality is opposite of your claim. The more a people trusts in God, the more free they are. The less they trust in God, they more they beg for tyranny. This "covid" scamdemic has brought this into light! You see Christian ommunities that trust in God living freely while the Godless worship tyrants.

"Man will ultimately be governed by God or by tyrants." -
Benjamin Franklin
 Quoting: Weyoun


Christians love to play this game where you just don't understand what the Bible says

of course objectively reading it is not good enough

they even say you have to be in some holy spirit type of mind to understand it - and what this means you must be possessed by some other thing to read god's word

so that means the all powerful god has trouble talking to his creation, god just can't communicate properly


another game preachers play is cherry picking the verses

"we'll just skip over all this blood and gore and read some stuff people like to hear"

Psalms 136-140: Bash babies' heads against rocks for god!


no sorry Christian, Romans 13 says what Romans 13 says:

Romans 13

Submission to Authorities


1Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which is from God. The authorities that exist have been appointed by God.
2Consequently, whoever resists authority is opposing what God has set in place, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.

3For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Do you want to be unafraid of the one in authority? Then do what is right, and you will have his approval. 4For he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not carry the sword in vain. He is God’s servant, an agent of retribution to the wrongdoer.

5Therefore it is necessary to submit to authority, not only to avoid punishment, but also as a matter of conscience. 6This is also why you pay taxes. For the authorities are God’s servants, who devote themselves to their work.
7Pay everyone what you owe him: taxes to whom taxes are due, revenue to whom revenue is due, respect to whom respect is due, honor to whom honor is due."

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It should be obvious the government wrote Romans 13 not some god

The government wants you to be submissive and pay taxes

that is exactly what a slave is taught

and this verse:

"For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad."

God appointed bad people who terrorize you

that is what this damned book says

read it and weep Christian, you are a hopelessly duped slave
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Re: IMPORTANT: Romans 13 - an interpretation you haven't heard before
Paul didn’t teach works over faith. Indeed some people get confused that James taught this and Paul didn’t

Paul didn’t teach a pre tribulation rapture

Speaking in tongues - Cornelius and his family did so on the presence of Peter

Paul didn’t teach circumcision

Spiritual circumcision is circumcision of the heart, Paul reiterating what was stated by God Deuteronomy 30:6.

It’s difficult to even consider anything else you’ve said when the intro is all so so wrong
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79336673


- James speaks of evidence before others. God is not ignorant of whos saved or not.

- The rapture: Who is the restrainer? (2 tessalonians 2:6-7)? Its obious its the Holy spirit. That is the rapture. We will meet Christ in the air (1 Thessalonians 4:17). That is the end of the church age (or age of the gentiles) and beginning of the millenial reigh of Christ and the restoration of the nation and a certain people (the j.....) So yes, Paul taught the rapture.

More teachings on it here:

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He didn’t teach a pre-trib rapture though.

And the Greek word used for ‘meet’ in 1 thess 4 is one that refers to going out to meet an arriving dignitary, to accompany them into a city (or in this case, to Earth).

And the restoration of that nation is not mentioned once in the New Testament
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Umm.. yes he did. Just watch the video.

As for the restoration of Isra.... where does Christ rule from? Jerusa....? Among what people?

New testament does not teach anything contrary to what the old testament teach, all the promises in the old testament will be fullfilled. Elaboration on return of Israe.... can for example be found in the prophets in Ezekiel 36-> and with some googling you can see Ezekiel even gave us the date for the return of this country in may 1948. Also Isaiah 60 and 66 is interesting regarding the return of Israe..., and its one of those passages that unlock that Tarshish is Britain.

The certain people we cant name here (the j...) are central in Gods salvation even in the new covenant / new testament, and you cant understand it without knowing their position. Divide the word of God correctly!
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He didn’t. What Paul did say has been twisted by those who follow the 19th century teachings of John Nelson Darby and the later Cyrus Schofield.

There is no secret rapture. It isn’t secret, but like Paul describes in 1 thess 4 - with a shout, with a trumpet call

We aren’t then taken to heaven, rather we meet the Lord in the air (the dead in Christ rise first and we return to the Earth with Jesus as his escorts.

Jesus also describes this in John 5:28-29 where ‘an hour is coming’ when those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned. Not separated by seven years or 3.5 years, or by some undetermined time period, as some pre-tribulation teachers claim.

The rapture begins the end of the age, when sudden destruction comes upon the Earth. 2 Peter 3:10 - the heavens disappear, the Earth and everything in it is burned up and, as promised by the Lord, is replaced by a new heavens and new Earth, where righteousness dwells.


All the promises in the Old Testament are fulfilled in Jesus Christ and His people, in His Kingdom .

” 22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering, 23 and to the assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God, the judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, 24 and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.”
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Re: IMPORTANT: Romans 13 - an interpretation you haven't heard before
Just more bullshit from the apologists

Romans 13 says God appoints government and to obey it

it does NOT specify not to obey it if the government goes bad

and who is to decide if government is good or bad?

You?

God appointed the government, not you.

The truth is not in the Bible

No one has any authority over another

God is a meme being used to establish tyranny

all governments are tyrannical

go disobey any law in any government at any time in history and see what happens

tyranny happens because the state has a monopoly on force and you are not even allowed to resist even for failure to appear or failure to pay


SO WILL YOU CHRISTIANS PLEASE SHUT THE HELL UP

YOUR RELIGION IS TYRANNY AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77998499


You have a fundamental misunderstanding of Christianity and the verses in the OP video.

For example, see how government is identified in Romans 13:3. See the conditions that determine it in that verse. If I call myself "government", does that make me so? Can anyone just call themselves "government" and it is so, like how some leftists lie and say they are a woman when they are not?

See 1 Samuel 8. You will see how the people don't want God and want tyranny, but God warns them against it, but the people still rather have a tyranny rather than trust in God.

The reality is opposite of your claim. The more a people trusts in God, the more free they are. The less they trust in God, they more they beg for tyranny. This "covid" scamdemic has brought this into light! You see Christian ommunities that trust in God living freely while the Godless worship tyrants.

"Man will ultimately be governed by God or by tyrants." -
Benjamin Franklin
 Quoting: Weyoun


Christians love to play this game where you just don't understand what the Bible says

of course objectively reading it is not good enough

they even say you have to be in some holy spirit type of mind to understand it - and what this means you must be possessed by some other thing to read god's word

so that means the all powerful god has trouble talking to his creation, god just can't communicate properly


another game preachers play is cherry picking the verses

"we'll just skip over all this blood and gore and read some stuff people like to hear"

Psalms 136-140: Bash babies' heads against rocks for god!


no sorry Christian, Romans 13 says what Romans 13 says:

Romans 13

Submission to Authorities


1Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which is from God. The authorities that exist have been appointed by God.
2Consequently, whoever resists authority is opposing what God has set in place, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.

3For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Do you want to be unafraid of the one in authority? Then do what is right, and you will have his approval. 4For he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not carry the sword in vain. He is God’s servant, an agent of retribution to the wrongdoer.

5Therefore it is necessary to submit to authority, not only to avoid punishment, but also as a matter of conscience. 6This is also why you pay taxes. For the authorities are God’s servants, who devote themselves to their work.
7Pay everyone what you owe him: taxes to whom taxes are due, revenue to whom revenue is due, respect to whom respect is due, honor to whom honor is due."

--------------

It should be obvious the government wrote Romans 13 not some god

The government wants you to be submissive and pay taxes

that is exactly what a slave is taught

and this verse:

"For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad."

God appointed bad people who terrorize you

that is what this damned book says

read it and weep Christian, you are a hopelessly duped slave

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77998499


You are a Liar! Post it all.

Psalm 136-140

Thanksgiving to God for His Enduring Mercy

136 Oh, (A)give thanks to the Lord, for He is good!
(B)For His mercy endures forever.
2 Oh, give thanks to (C)the God of gods!
For His mercy endures forever.
3 Oh, give thanks to the Lord of lords!
For His mercy endures forever:
4 To Him (D)who alone does great wonders,
For His mercy endures forever;
5 (E)To Him who by wisdom made the heavens,
For His mercy endures forever;
6 (F)To Him who laid out the earth above the waters,
For His mercy endures forever;
7 (G)To Him who made great lights,
For His mercy endures forever—
8 (H)The sun to rule by day,
For His mercy endures forever;
9 The moon and stars to rule by night,
For His mercy endures forever.
10 (I)To Him who struck Egypt in their firstborn,
For His mercy endures forever;
11 (J)And brought out Israel from among them,
For His mercy endures forever;
12 (K)With a strong hand, and with [a]an outstretched arm,
For His mercy endures forever;
13 (L)To Him who divided the Red Sea in two,
For His mercy endures forever;
14 And made Israel pass through the midst of it,
For His mercy endures forever;
15 (M)But overthrew Pharaoh and his army in the Red Sea,
For His mercy endures forever;
16 (N)To Him who led His people through the wilderness,
For His mercy endures forever;
17 (O)To Him who struck down great kings,
For His mercy endures forever;
18 (P)And slew famous kings,
For His mercy endures forever—
19 (Q)Sihon king of the Amorites,
For His mercy endures forever;
20 (R)And Og king of Bashan,
For His mercy endures forever—
21 (S)And gave their land as a heritage,
For His mercy endures forever;
22 A heritage to Israel His servant,
For His mercy endures forever.
23 Who (T)remembered us in our lowly state,
For His mercy endures forever;
24 And (U)rescued us from our enemies,
For His mercy endures forever;
25 (V)Who gives food to all flesh,
For His mercy endures forever.
26 Oh, give thanks to the God of heaven!
For His mercy endures forever.
Ecclesiastes 1:9
9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
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Re: IMPORTANT: Romans 13 - an interpretation you haven't heard before
He didn’t. What Paul did say has been twisted by those who follow the 19th century teachings of John Nelson Darby and the later Cyrus Schofield.

There is no secret rapture. It isn’t secret, but like Paul describes in 1 thess 4 - with a shout, with a trumpet call

We aren’t then taken to heaven, rather we meet the Lord in the air (the dead in Christ rise first and we return to the Earth with Jesus as his escorts.

Jesus also describes this in John 5:28-29 where ‘an hour is coming’ when those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned. Not separated by seven years or 3.5 years, or by some undetermined time period, as some pre-tribulation teachers claim.

The rapture begins the end of the age, when sudden destruction comes upon the Earth. 2 Peter 3:10 - the heavens disappear, the Earth and everything in it is burned up and, as promised by the Lord, is replaced by a new heavens and new Earth, where righteousness dwells.


All the promises in the Old Testament are fulfilled in Jesus Christ and His people, in His Kingdom .

” 22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering, 23 and to the assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God, the judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, 24 and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.”
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79336673


its not invented by Darby, but you have to falsely claim that to make it fit your false replacement theology. Romans 11 debunks you, God has not done away with his people (the j....)

The pre-Darby rapture:

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Re: IMPORTANT: Romans 13 - an interpretation you haven't heard before
I don't mean to be insulting, but one thing I've noticed is how little understanding of the scriptures many have on this forum ... and I'm mainly talking about people who insist the bible is full of contradictions and inconsistencies ....

They are cherry picking verses to make these points -- it's precisely what the guy in the Romans 13 video is warning about.

If you guys want to say the bible is wrong, at least learn to interpret it properly first!

"Scripture" (capital s) interprets "scripture" (lowercase s) -- consider the entire narrative in forming your conclusions.
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Jesus broke "man's" rules.
He healed on the Sabbath, and even in a temple.
He let his followers eat, as well.
He came to start a revolution!!
 Quoting: Jannicke

Nope.

Jesus was SENT by the Father with the plan of Salvation for ALL humans who choose to Believe.

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Fuck that bullshit written by TPTB themselves.

Eat shit!
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LOL. Care to elucidate your view on Romans 13?
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Sure, It was written by the Roman Empire.. And they can go fuck themselves.. And you too for believing that BS..
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I should mention, that I always refer back to our Messiah’s teachings if It looks like there’s a contradiction in Paul’s writings.
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The Apostles relaxed various rules as recorded in Acts.

That said, the sins fo Bleievers can be forgiven.

Non-belief is NOT forgiven.

Do you think Christianity would have spread so fast IF they had been FORCED to obey the Sabbath etc...?

Paul said 'let no MAN tell you...'.
That would mean 'Believe - and let the Holy Spirit guide you'.

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Re: IMPORTANT: Romans 13 - an interpretation you haven't heard before
I don't mean to be insulting, but one thing I've noticed is how little understanding of the scriptures many have on this forum ... and I'm mainly talking about people who insist the bible is full of contradictions and inconsistencies ....

They are cherry picking verses to make these points -- it's precisely what the guy in the Romans 13 video is warning about.

If you guys want to say the bible is wrong, at least learn to interpret it properly first!

"Scripture" (capital s) interprets "scripture" (lowercase s) -- consider the entire narrative in forming your conclusions.
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Thread: Bible Study - Biblical Contradictions Do Not Invalidate the Narrative
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Re: IMPORTANT: Romans 13 - an interpretation you haven't heard before
- The rapture: Who is the restrainer? (2 tessalonians 2:6-7)? Its obious its the Holy spirit. That is the rapture. We will meet Christ in the air (1 Thessalonians 4:17). That is the end of the church age (or age of the gentiles) and beginning of the millenial reigh of Christ and the restoration of the nation and a certain people (the j.....) So yes, Paul taught the rapture.

More teachings on it here:
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Pay your taxes and follow the law, unless the authority or their law would make you sin against God. For instance, if an authority wants you to call him god or tries to force you to pray to another “god” beside the Father…..you are to disobey that. Nowhere does it say rebel, however.
 Quoting: clemmens14


Disobeying any law that contradicts God's Laws would be considered "criminal" and in today's society also be considered "Insurrection."

And refusing to obey any law that contradicts God's Laws would be what God would require of Christians.
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Just more bullshit from the apologists

Romans 13 says God appoints government and to obey it

it does NOT specify not to obey it if the government goes bad

and who is to decide if government is good or bad?

You?

God appointed the government, not you.

The truth is not in the Bible

No one has any authority over another

God is a meme being used to establish tyranny

all governments are tyrannical

go disobey any law in any government at any time in history and see what happens

tyranny happens because the state has a monopoly on force and you are not even allowed to resist even for failure to appear or failure to pay


SO WILL YOU CHRISTIANS PLEASE SHUT THE HELL UP

YOUR RELIGION IS TYRANNY AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77998499


You have a fundamental misunderstanding of Christianity and the verses in the OP video.

For example, see how government is identified in Romans 13:3. See the conditions that determine it in that verse. If I call myself "government", does that make me so? Can anyone just call themselves "government" and it is so, like how some leftists lie and say they are a woman when they are not?

See 1 Samuel 8. You will see how the people don't want God and want tyranny, but God warns them against it, but the people still rather have a tyranny rather than trust in God.

The reality is opposite of your claim. The more a people trusts in God, the more free they are. The less they trust in God, they more they beg for tyranny. This "covid" scamdemic has brought this into light! You see Christian ommunities that trust in God living freely while the Godless worship tyrants.

"Man will ultimately be governed by God or by tyrants." -
Benjamin Franklin
 Quoting: Weyoun


Christians love to play this game where you just don't understand what the Bible says

of course objectively reading it is not good enough

they even say you have to be in some holy spirit type of mind to understand it - and what this means you must be possessed by some other thing to read god's word

so that means the all powerful god has trouble talking to his creation, god just can't communicate properly


another game preachers play is cherry picking the verses

"we'll just skip over all this blood and gore and read some stuff people like to hear"

Psalms 136-140: Bash babies' heads against rocks for god!


no sorry Christian, Romans 13 says what Romans 13 says:

Romans 13

Submission to Authorities


1Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which is from God. The authorities that exist have been appointed by God.
2Consequently, whoever resists authority is opposing what God has set in place, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.

3For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Do you want to be unafraid of the one in authority? Then do what is right, and you will have his approval. 4For he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not carry the sword in vain. He is God’s servant, an agent of retribution to the wrongdoer.

5Therefore it is necessary to submit to authority, not only to avoid punishment, but also as a matter of conscience. 6This is also why you pay taxes. For the authorities are God’s servants, who devote themselves to their work.
7Pay everyone what you owe him: taxes to whom taxes are due, revenue to whom revenue is due, respect to whom respect is due, honor to whom honor is due."

--------------

It should be obvious the government wrote Romans 13 not some god

The government wants you to be submissive and pay taxes

that is exactly what a slave is taught

and this verse:

"For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad."

God appointed bad people who terrorize you

that is what this damned book says

read it and weep Christian, you are a hopelessly duped slave

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77998499


I look at real life people and peoples, and I see Christians living the most free lives, and I see the Godless enslaved by vanity, greed, lusts, pride, and most prominently, fear, scattering like mice when their "government" god barks "covid" or whatever trendy hegelian dialectic device. I see Christians being free from these worldly snares and just living to please God, as willing slaves to God! While the Godless are slaves to their own fear and to "government."

In fact, looking at history and current events, the most non-compliant to tyrants are Christians. With millions fighting for their faith even to the death, in defiance of tyrants, while the Godless bend the knee to every tyrant out of fear.

Your rhetoric is simply not backed by reality.
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Pay your taxes and follow the law, unless the authority or their law would make you sin against God. For instance, if an authority wants you to call him god or tries to force you to pray to another “god” beside the Father…..you are to disobey that. Nowhere does it say rebel, however.
 Quoting: clemmens14


Disobeying any law that contradicts God's Laws would be considered "criminal" and in today's society also be considered "Insurrection."

And refusing to obey any law that contradicts God's Laws would be what God would require of Christians.
 Quoting: DNoMo Michele B


Christians have historically been the most criminalized by this world, and will continue to be so, especially with the antichrist NWO emerging.

Stand strong and stand in Jesus! Never surrender!

"These things I have spoken to you, so that in Me you may have peace. In the world you have tribulation, but take courage; I have overcome the world." - John 16:33

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....
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Made a post in your topic hf

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