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IMPORTANT: Romans 13 - an interpretation you haven't heard before

 
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IMPORTANT: Romans 13 - an interpretation you haven't heard before
Given the gravity of misunderstanding Romans 13, this video is well worth the 7 minutes (or 3.5 minutes on 2X speed) of your time.




For those of you who insist on a synopsis for every video, you will not be disappointed by watching. He'll explain why the powers given to government are not universal, and that they have clear limits as defined in the Scriptures.

It is not always a sin to defy or disobey government. Romans 13 is not the only passage in the Bible -- there are thousands and thousands of other passages one must consider when forming their worldviews.
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Re: IMPORTANT: Romans 13 - an interpretation you haven't heard before
Given the gravity of misunderstanding Romans 13, this video is well worth the 7 minutes (or 3.5 minutes on 2X speed) of your time.




For those of you who insist on a synopsis for every video, you will not be disappointed by watching. He'll explain why the powers given to government are not universal, and that they have clear limits as defined in the Scriptures.

It is not always a sin to defy or disobey government. Romans 13 is not the only passage in the Bible -- there are thousands and thousands of other passages one must consider when forming their worldviews.
 Quoting: Shark150


A Godless gubbermint does not enjoy the obedience or loyalty of it's righteous citizens.

True, God puts up or takes down the PTB; however I will not bend the knee to an antichrist leadership. Period.
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Re: IMPORTANT: Romans 13 - an interpretation you haven't heard before
As yes, the famous mistranslation of Romans 13 in the King James.


Chapter 13
Obedience to Authority.[a] 1 Let every person be subordinate to the higher authorities

.. is the correct translation.



This was never a problem until people thought the entire Bible had to be re-created in the 1500's.
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Re: IMPORTANT: Romans 13 - an interpretation you haven't heard before
Romans 13
1 Let every being be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from Elohim, and the authorities that exist are appointed by Elohim.

2 So he who opposes the authority withstands the institution of Elohim, and those who withstand shall bring judgment on themselves.

3 For those ruling are an object of fear, not to good works, but to evil. Do you wish to be not afraid of the authority? Do the good, and you shall have praise from it,

4 for it is a servant of Elohim to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid, for it does not bear the sword in vain. For it is a servant of Elohim, a revenger to execute wrath on him who practises evil.


NO UPRISING.

Zeph 3:8

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Romans 13
1 Let every being be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from Elohim, and the authorities that exist are appointed by Elohim.

2 So he who opposes the authority withstands the institution of Elohim, and those who withstand shall bring judgment on themselves.

3 For those ruling are an object of fear, not to good works, but to evil. Do you wish to be not afraid of the authority? Do the good, and you shall have praise from it,

4 for it is a servant of Elohim to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid, for it does not bear the sword in vain. For it is a servant of Elohim, a revenger to execute wrath on him who practises evil.


NO UPRISING.

Zeph 3:8

77.
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God accomplishes His work through His people.
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"consent to be governed"
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Re: IMPORTANT: Romans 13 - an interpretation you haven't heard before
As yes, the famous mistranslation of Romans 13 in the King James.


Chapter 13
Obedience to Authority.[a] 1 Let every person be subordinate to the higher authorities

.. is the correct translation.



This was never a problem until people thought the entire Bible had to be re-created in the 1500's.
 Quoting: jlee2027


And then it was re-re-created again by a turd ] who went to prison for Fraud named Cyrus Schofield in the early 1900’s.
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Re: IMPORTANT: Romans 13 - an interpretation you haven't heard before
People never read Romans 1:7

"To all that be in Rome"

If you're not in Rome, then you don't have to "obey the government".
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Just posted a post and they would not allow it.
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Re: IMPORTANT: Romans 13 - an interpretation you haven't heard before
If Paul were alive today, I'm pretty certain he'd have been working with Ray Epps at the J6.
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Re: IMPORTANT: Romans 13 - an interpretation you haven't heard before
Given the gravity of misunderstanding Romans 13, this video is well worth the 7 minutes (or 3.5 minutes on 2X speed) of your time.




For those of you who insist on a synopsis for every video, you will not be disappointed by watching. He'll explain why the powers given to government are not universal, and that they have clear limits as defined in the Scriptures.

It is not always a sin to defy or disobey government. Romans 13 is not the only passage in the Bible -- there are thousands and thousands of other passages one must consider when forming their worldviews.
 Quoting: Shark150


A Godless gubbermint does not enjoy the obedience or loyalty of it's righteous citizens.

True, God puts up or takes down the PTB; however I will not bend the knee to an antichrist leadership. Period.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432




AMEN bro,,

You speak for millions!!
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Re: IMPORTANT: Romans 13 - an interpretation you haven't heard before
Fuck that bullshit written by TPTB themselves.

Eat shit!
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Re: IMPORTANT: Romans 13 - an interpretation you haven't heard before
Fuck that bullshit written by TPTB themselves.

Eat shit!
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LOL. Care to elucidate your view on Romans 13?
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Re: IMPORTANT: Romans 13 - an interpretation you haven't heard before
I tried to post some scripture and it wouldn’t post. That’s wrong.

Galatians 3:28 Can’t be posted on here.


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Re: IMPORTANT: Romans 13 - an interpretation you haven't heard before
I didn't watch the video, don't have time right now, but I remember something a pastor once said and he said you need to interpret this passage in the context of your life. Our government was established by the people, they are in charge. We elect representatives to represent our interests.

So the real ruler in this context is the constitution of the United States. If a government is ignoring or outright contradicting what the constitution says, they are not a legitimate ruler and you are not bound by scripture to obey their arbitrary rules and requirements.
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Re: IMPORTANT: Romans 13 - an interpretation you haven't heard before
Given the gravity of misunderstanding Romans 13, this video is well worth the 7 minutes (or 3.5 minutes on 2X speed) of your time.




For those of you who insist on a synopsis for every video, you will not be disappointed by watching. He'll explain why the powers given to government are not universal, and that they have clear limits as defined in the Scriptures.

It is not always a sin to defy or disobey government. Romans 13 is not the only passage in the Bible -- there are thousands and thousands of other passages one must consider when forming their worldviews.
 Quoting: Shark150


A Godless gubbermint does not enjoy the obedience or loyalty of it's righteous citizens.

True, God puts up or takes down the PTB; however I will not bend the knee to an antichrist leadership. Period.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432




AMEN bro,,

You speak for millions!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79502921


Governments today promote and encourage transgression of the Law of YHWH.
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Re: IMPORTANT: Romans 13 - an interpretation you haven't heard before
As yes, the famous mistranslation of Romans 13 in the King James.


Chapter 13
Obedience to Authority.[a] 1 Let every person be subordinate to the higher authorities

.. is the correct translation.



This was never a problem until people thought the entire Bible had to be re-created in the 1500's.
 Quoting: jlee2027


And then it was re-re-created again by a turd ] who went to prison for Fraud named Cyrus Schofield in the early 1900’s.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74628728


What a POS this guy was... ripping off his mother in law!

There's a special place in Hell for this SOB!
J 17:15: "I pray not that Thou shouldst take them out of the world, but that Thou shouldst keep them from the evil.

Truth, beauty and virtue ... all the things that THEY hate. All the things God loves.
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Re: IMPORTANT: Romans 13 - an interpretation you haven't heard before
Pay your taxes and follow the law, unless the authority or their law would make you sin against God. For instance, if an authority wants you to call him god or tries to force you to pray to another “god” beside the Father…..you are to disobey that. Nowhere does it say rebel, however.
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Re: IMPORTANT: Romans 13 - an interpretation you haven't heard before
None of Sauls letters should be in the bible.
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Re: IMPORTANT: Romans 13 - an interpretation you haven't heard before
I tried to post some scripture and it wouldn’t post. That’s wrong.

Galatians 3:28 Can’t be posted on here.


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 Quoting: -Kate-


Take out the word J /e/ w/
It's baned

Good post, OP!!
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Re: IMPORTANT: Romans 13 - an interpretation you haven't heard before
NO.

Authority over anothers free will is always forced and always corrupted by that ability to use force.

Religion has always been misused by governments to abuse the people.

Fear of and obedience to corrupted authority is not given of the creator, courage to resist and overcome it is.

militia
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Re: IMPORTANT: Romans 13 - an interpretation you haven't heard before
Fuck that bullshit written by TPTB themselves.

Eat shit!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76736846


LOL. Care to elucidate your view on Romans 13?
 Quoting: Shark150


Have you ever really looked into the background of this Paul character? It is said he was a Pharisee. Christ likened them to a pit of vipers. Christ's actual followers referred to Paul as the deceiver.
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Re: IMPORTANT: Romans 13 - an interpretation you haven't heard before
People never read Romans 1:7

"To all that be in Rome"

If you're not in Rome, then you don't have to "obey the government".
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rofl
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Re: IMPORTANT: Romans 13 - an interpretation you haven't heard before
None of Sauls letters should be in the bible.
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What other books do you feel need to be torn out of the bible?

I'll wait while you ask your rapture preacher or watch the plagiarized vid he made...

God changed Saul's name to Paul as he did with Peter and others.

He was chosen by God and fully accepted by all the apostles.

You need to read this stuff for yourself.

You could read my sig too... oh wait, it's Paul too. nvm
J 17:15: "I pray not that Thou shouldst take them out of the world, but that Thou shouldst keep them from the evil.

Truth, beauty and virtue ... all the things that THEY hate. All the things God loves.
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Re: IMPORTANT: Romans 13 - an interpretation you haven't heard before
I tried to post some scripture and it wouldn’t post. That’s wrong.

Galatians 3:28 Can’t be posted on here.


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 Quoting: -Kate-


Take out the word J /e/ w/
It's baned

Good post, OP!!
 Quoting: chulahoma


That’s really strange that it is, that’s only one tribe of the 12. But the secular world is deceived, so I get it! Thank you.
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Just posted a post and they would not allow it.
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You are using a word or a few words that are not allowed. Try to see what controversial word you may have used and change it.
I am not supporting the activity, but just explaining how you can get your idea out there.
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Re: IMPORTANT: Romans 13 - an interpretation you haven't heard before
Pay your taxes and follow the law, unless the authority or their law would make you sin against God. For instance, if an authority wants you to call him god or tries to force you to pray to another “god” beside the Father…..you are to disobey that. Nowhere does it say rebel, however.
 Quoting: clemmens14
So your saying 1776 was a sin?
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This is not new to me. I learned this 28 years ago and have lived by it since.

So happy to see you are coming up to speed.

"Lack of knowledge is why people perish"!
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Re: IMPORTANT: Romans 13 - an interpretation you haven't heard before
People never read Romans 1:7

"To all that be in Rome"

If you're not in Rome, then you don't have to "obey the government".

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73447168
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4000 YEARS OF BULLSHIT!
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Re: IMPORTANT: Romans 13 - an interpretation you haven't heard before
I tried to post some scripture and it wouldn’t post. That’s wrong.

Galatians 3:28 Can’t be posted on here.


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 Quoting: -Kate-


Mods are all anti Chris

"For you are all the children of God by faith in Jesus Christ."
 Quoting: deplorable scottfree


There are many thing about this character Jesus that I find incompatible with what I consider to be right.

The one thing no Christian can deny is that Jesus followed the same pattern as every other cult leader, he told his followers that to follow him they would need to turn their backs on their loved ones and their wisdom and moral support, and the only way to salvation was through him.

No thanks.





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