IMPORTANT: Romans 13 - an interpretation you haven't heard before

You idiots are idiots.

The Bible was written 2000 years ago for the people of that time.

Also, it's not wrong. You got a birth certificate? You're in Rome.

Jesus plainly stated that he did not come to save the gentiles, and that they were dogs.

Would you like to see verses?

Paying taxes came from the Roman Empire, so did birth certificates. Think about that for a moment....

Constantine concocted what you call Christianity as a state religion for Rome. It was 100 percent fabricated, with no true historical background.

It is no wonder it told the people to obey the government and pay their taxes

He didn’t come to save them, we have to be grafted into the House of Israel. Israel is a people still scattered throughout the nations.
Study the story of Ruth. :)

You're a sucker.

If you want to be close to your creator , take a hike or go fishing.

Your thoughts will be your own as your creator intended.


All of those heavy threats get old and weigh on your spirit.

Agreed and this is common sense given to us by God. People who always misinterpret scriptures will follow their interpretation blindly as if in a cult. Imagine that! Paul decided to flee when the evil authorities were coming after him.

Many of mankind is basically doomed as is also explained in the Bible. It is not by design but simply a fact that most people just can't think critically about anything. God did not tell us to turn off our reasoning and follow him.

WIDE IS THE GATE that leads where?
Where the masses are going, you don't want to follow.

You are bang on, I totally agree. We are instructed to come out of that system btw. Flee from it my people... to the mountains in the last days, which I believe are here.

The 'J' word and related have ben banned from use.

So has the 'H' word in singular format.

Galatians 3:28 There is neither Je-w(Hebrews) nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Amen!

I'm sad for you. Jesus is real. If you are lost, just pray for Him to reveal himself in a supernatural way and He will. Even if you don't believe, He believes in you. Take one step toward Him and He will take a step toward you. Eventually you will be carried by Him through what may come.
Worth a shot.

Oh ya, create a god that suits me in my head, no thanks.

Thank you!

The creator speaks to you through your conscience. Men speak to you through religion, for their own interests.

We are NOT in Rome and we are supposed to be a Constitutional Republic...

Shit has ONLY been going downhill since 1871 and "they" have been financially raping us since 1913.

With that said, it is my understanding, based on the Ancient Text, that OUR ONLY HOPE is something known as Yom YeHoVaH and the Return of the ORIGINAL Torah Mashiyach Yeshua of Netzaret!!!

hasatan will be bound for 1,000 years, Malchut Elohim will be established on earth with the HQs in Yerushalayim, and Yeshua Mashiyach Ben David(LION) will put ALL nations in subjection.

We occupy until HE returns, share the GOOD NEWS of Yeshua(YaH Our Salvation), and do Righteousness and Right Ruling with love, mercy, and truth towards ALL.

Shalom and Shabbat Shalom...

Eliyah

Rome invented taxes?

You better check into the Egyptians and Sumerians.

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Constantine didn't create Christianity. Joseph Atwill NONSENSE.


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Praise YaH, a woman that understands!!!

Mashiyach Yeshua grafts us into True Yisrael!!!

The "church and Israel" being two different entities is one of the biggest LIES perpetrated upon us, besides the pre-tribulation rapture and that the LAW/TORAH was done away with.

Shalom and Shabbat Shalom...

Eliyah

When "magistrates" reward the bad and punish the good, THEY THEMSELVES are now the evil needing be punished

Well then, where are all the neighbor?, for they all had scattereth and intermingled out that almost 58% are the living dead.

Therefore where is the law?.. of the Sun?, let alone fruitful and multiply instead of seedless and scattered?.

Let every soul be subject to higher authorities. For there is no authority except from God and those who have been ordained by God.

And so, whoever resists authority, resists what has been ordained by God. And those who resist are acquiring damnation for themselves.

For leaders are not a source of fear to those who work good, but to those who work evil. And would you prefer not to be afraid of authority? Then do what is good, and you shall have praise from them.

For he is a minister of God for you unto good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid. For it is not without reason that he carries a sword. For he is a minister of God; an avenger to execute wrath upon whomever does evil.

For this reason, it is necessary to be subject, not solely because of wrath, but also because of conscience.

Therefore, you must also offer tribute. For they are the ministers of God, serving him in this.

Therefore, render to all whatever is owed. Taxes, to whom taxes is due; revenue, to whom revenue is due; fear, to whom fear is due; honor, to whom honor is due.

You should owe nothing to anyone, except so as to love one another. For whoever loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law.

For example: You shall not commit adultery. You shall not kill. You shall not steal. You shall not speak false testimony. You shall not covet. And if there is any other commandment, it is summed up in this word: You shall love your neighbor as yourself.

The love of neighbor does no harm. Therefore, love is the plenitude of the law.

And we know the present time, that now is the hour for us to rise up from sleep. For already our salvation is closer than when we first believed.

The night has passed, and the day draws near. Therefore, let us cast aside the works of darkness, and be clothed with the armor of light.

Let us walk honestly, as in the daylight, not in carousing and drunkenness, not in promiscuity and sexual immorality, not in contention and envy.

Instead, be clothed with the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh in its desires. - Romans 13:1-14



"Here begin the praises and glorifications, going out and in the domain of god, having benefit in the beautiful West, coming out by day, taking any shape he likes, playing at Senet, sitting in a booth, and coming out as a living soul.

After he has arrived in port, Osiris, the scribe Ani, said: 'It is beneficial to him who does it on Earth.'"

Said he that is in the tomb: "Pay attention to the decision of truth and the plummet of the balance, according to its stance!" - Papyrus of Osiris Ani in Adoration of Re, Egyptian Book of the Dead

And Jesus said to him: “Let the dead [soulless beast of the earth] bury their dead [soulless beast of the earth]. But you [Elijah the prophet] go and announce the kingdom of God.” - Luke 9:60

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And one of them, a doctor of the law, questioned him, to test him:

“Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the law?”

Jesus said to him: “ ‘You shall love the Lord your God from all your heart, and with all your soul and with all your mind.’

This is the greatest and first commandment.

But the second is similar to it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’

On these two commandments the entire law depends, and also the prophets.” - Matthew 22:35-40

You've never heard about 'lying spirit'?

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Last Edited by Servant-of-the-LORD on 01/21/2022 12:57 PM

Sorry, I didn't watch the video but the concept is simple. Either a person lives life with respect for proper authority, starting with their own parents and working up to government authorities or they do not.

If a person does not respect proper authority, then God sees it and immediately comes to the conclusion that a person will not respect his authority.

As the story goes, a lack of respect for proper authority is exactly what got mankind into the predicament that we are in right now. Exactly what brought the creation to a screeching halt on the very first planet in the universe to be inhabited.

Christ summed it up perfectly when he said:

Mat 23:2 KJV Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:

Mat 23:3 KJV All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

Moses law was, and still is God's law which commands respect. That can be seen in the ten commandments. The first four laws are instuctions how to respect God, and the last six are how to respect man.

If you live in a Common Law country, then you are bound to Common Law which is based on Bible law. So there you have it, in Christ's own words. Do not break the law, even if you are told to by your authorities.

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Like He spoke to the prophets too who gave us warnings that are coming True. We agree on man made religion. I also believe the Bible was messed with by man. You can see that easily by comparing them which is why we compare all of them seeking truth in the study group I’m in. Seek and you will Find my friend, we are guided to Truth.

Great video! Thanks.
Here’s another debunking of that false interpretation of Romans 13.
It documents how the English interpretation is not exactly accurate.
Not surprising, since the King of England paid for the translation!

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What would happen if we translated exousia in Romans 13 into the English word “liberty” as we see in 1 Corinthians 8:9?

“Let every soul be subject unto the higher liberty. For there is no liberty but of God: the liberties that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth (opposes) the liberty, resisteth (opposes) the ordinance of God: and they that resist [sets one’s self against] shall receive to themselves damnation. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the liberty? Do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same.” (Romans 13:1-3)

Last Edited by Anti-establishment on 01/21/2022 01:04 PM

The Bible covers 4000+ years of God's interaction with mankind from Creation to Revelation - just before John's death.

People blabber of "the lack of contemporary evidence" knowing FULL WELL that....

1. Starting after Jesus' death, the Pharisees did everything possible to derail the growth of Christianity.

AND the Romans spent the 290 years between Christ's death and Contantine's "vision" KILLING Christians.

2. Manuscripts, at the least, have lasted through...

-the Roman destruction of Israel & other wars in the Middle East of the 1st / 2nd Century
-the 200+ years of Roman persecution of Christians and Hebrews that began with Nero
-the "trinitarian" changes made to the Bible beginning around Tertullian's time
-the invasions / expansion of Islam that began after Muhammad's death in 632 AD

Arheists expect that Jesus miracles to be recorded in a pile of ancient tabloid journals somewhere?

Even the Christ-hating Pharisees mention Jesus in the Talmud.

Even IF we didn't have manuscript fragments dating back to the 2nd century, scholars could "piece together" the 4 Gospels just from the writings of various church fathers.

---AD 96 Clement Bishop of Rome quotes / refers to 11 books used for the New Testament including Matthew, Mark and Luke.

---AD 108 Ignatius Bishop of Antioch quotes / refers to 24 books used for the New Testament including all 4 Gospels.

---AD 110 Polycarp Bishop of Smyrna quotes / refers to 18 books used for the New Testament including all 4 Gospels.

On TOP of that, there is a growing consensus that the first writings of the Gospels were in Hebrews & Aramaic.

Last Edited by Servant-of-the-LORD on 01/21/2022 01:06 PM

The Bible says those "Higher Powers" that we are to abide by are for Good. If those "Higher Powers" in question are not for good we are NOT to abide by them as they are for evil. Abiding by evil is consenting to evil and will reap the same judgement.

AKA: Do not abide by a higher power just because it is a higher power, only the Just and Righteous higher powers. All others must be resisted. We must also be the Watchers on the Wall and warn others of the evil higher powers.

Amen brother, well said.

why form your world view based upon a book with so many inconsistencies and used by religious people to control with imaginary punishments from a god that loves them?