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An Ominous Encounter In The Astral Plane

 
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Preface: I'm a "dreamwalker" with a fair amount of experience in exploring the astral and etheric levels of our world through deliberate lucid dreams. About 90% of my dreams are lucid. I will occasionally have true OOBEs (out-of-body experiences) such as the one I had this afternoon, documented for posterity and analysis. I had a run-in with a strange entity inside a local church and I am curious what you will make of it.

Leaving my body, I scanned the large city I live in, and immediately was drawn to a large gothic style catholic church some ways away. Entering through the doors, I saw an entrancing light shimmering through the stained glass windows that I would never have seen in the physical. It was a living, moving current that pulsed like electricity, but was of a golden yellow color and appeared to move in shapes quite like an integrated circuit such as on the back of a microchip. There were only a few people in the church, mostly clergy in their robes, but I paid little attention to them. Instead I began climbing the staircase off of the foyer to see how high it went. It led me to the top of the balcony sitting atop the main hall and behind the pews where I noticed another door that wasn't in the physical world.

Going through it, I found a room that was bigger than the entire physical church and was hit with an ominous feeling. It appeared as a giant derelict factory with musty air and suspension cables running above a bottomless floor with more such cables traversing the room below as far as the eye could see. I noticed that on the cables hung some sort of suspended "baskets" although they looked more like a cross between a hammock and a sleeping bag, each one capable of accommodating a full human body. As I turned to leave, I saw that the door had disappeared, but the threshold had not. However it now led to a dark but luxuriously furnished bedroom in which stood a woman. She was smiling softy, rather beautiful, blonde, and about mid-forties from what I could see. If I had to draw comparison between her and a familiar face, I'd say that she somewhat resembled the actress Lucy Lawless. Suddenly without any action of my own, I found myself in one of the baskets in the factory room I had just left. Immediately I could feel that some sort of mind control being applied to me and I noticed something was attempting to extract energy from my lower chakras. I felt pacified, unafraid and being gently pushed to comply, while the entire time I could still sense the woman's presence.

Luckily, I'm very difficult to control - my true will stepped in and broke the hold.I made a "jump" to what I presumed was the ground floor outside the church. Instead, I appeared to be in a transportation terminal at the physical level nearby. It was crowded with many people, all wearing their masks. I was surprised when the crowd appeared to actually notice me! Normally you are invisible in the astral to physical folk. Immediately, a young girl pointed at me and said, "mom, he's not wearing his mask!" This clearly wasn't the physical world anymore so I turned and hid behind a column and manifested a large jacket and a face covering to blend in.

Pushing through the mass of people and frequently excusing myself, I got to the door of the terminal and went outside to the street. It greatly resembled my physical city and I could see many grocery stores along the main street with words written in Spanish. Having had enough of this, I readied myself to make the jump back to my body only to be pulled into an abstract space - intercepted by the same woman from before! She tried to wipe my memories, unsuccessfully. Before I broke free for the second time, I asked her who the hell she was and want she wanted from me. Her answer was ominous, although she spoke it with a calm sonorous voice and a soft smile - "You'll find out soon enough".

What the hell is up with people wearing masks in the astral realm?! Has anyone else experienced anything like this?

Any ideas as to what sort of entity I was dealing with? Another coincidence is that the archontic principality which rules my city is "Lawlessness", similar to the last name of the actress which this female entity resembled.
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Preface: I'm a "dreamwalker" with a fair amount of experience in exploring the astral and etheric levels of our world through deliberate lucid dreams. About 90% of my dreams are lucid. I will occasionally have true OOBEs (out-of-body experiences) such as the one I had this afternoon, documented for posterity and analysis. I had a run-in with a strange entity inside a local church and I am curious what you will make of it.

Leaving my body, I scanned the large city I live in, and immediately was drawn to a large gothic style catholic church some ways away. Entering through the doors, I saw an entrancing light shimmering through the stained glass windows that I would never have seen in the physical. It was a living, moving current that pulsed like electricity, but was of a golden yellow color and appeared to move in shapes quite like an integrated circuit such as on the back of a microchip. There were only a few people in the church, mostly clergy in their robes, but I paid little attention to them. Instead I began climbing the staircase off of the foyer to see how high it went. It led me to the top of the balcony sitting atop the main hall and behind the pews where I noticed another door that wasn't in the physical world.

Going through it, I found a room that was bigger than the entire physical church and was hit with an ominous feeling. It appeared as a giant derelict factory with musty air and suspension cables running above a bottomless floor with more such cables traversing the room below as far as the eye could see. I noticed that on the cables hung some sort of suspended "baskets" although they looked more like a cross between a hammock and a sleeping bag, each one capable of accommodating a full human body. As I turned to leave, I saw that the door had disappeared, but the threshold had not. However it now led to a dark but luxuriously furnished bedroom in which stood a woman. She was smiling softy, rather beautiful, blonde, and about mid-forties from what I could see. If I had to draw comparison between her and a familiar face, I'd say that she somewhat resembled the actress Lucy Lawless. Suddenly without any action of my own, I found myself in one of the baskets in the factory room I had just left. Immediately I could feel that some sort of mind control being applied to me and I noticed something was attempting to extract energy from my lower chakras. I felt pacified, unafraid and being gently pushed to comply, while the entire time I could still sense the woman's presence.

Luckily, I'm very difficult to control - my true will stepped in and broke the hold.I made a "jump" to what I presumed was the ground floor outside the church. Instead, I appeared to be in a transportation terminal at the physical level nearby. It was crowded with many people, all wearing their masks. I was surprised when the crowd appeared to actually notice me! Normally you are invisible in the astral to physical folk. Immediately, a young girl pointed at me and said, "mom, he's not wearing his mask!" This clearly wasn't the physical world anymore so I turned and hid behind a column and manifested a large jacket and a face covering to blend in.

Pushing through the mass of people and frequently excusing myself, I got to the door of the terminal and went outside to the street. It greatly resembled my physical city and I could see many grocery stores along the main street with words written in Spanish. Having had enough of this, I readied myself to make the jump back to my body only to be pulled into an abstract space - intercepted by the same woman from before! She tried to wipe my memories, unsuccessfully. Before I broke free for the second time, I asked her who the hell she was and want she wanted from me. Her answer was ominous, although she spoke it with a calm sonorous voice and a soft smile - "You'll find out soon enough".

What the hell is up with people wearing masks in the astral realm?! Has anyone else experienced anything like this?

Any ideas as to what sort of entity I was dealing with? Another coincidence is that the archontic principality which rules my city is "Lawlessness", similar to the last name of the actress which this female entity resembled.
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Fuck occultists.
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Different levels in Astral plane and depending on what you eat,drink or smoke, can influence which levels of plane and entity you experience. Archons will look for you there and will try break you.
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Everyone who participates in Occult activity will go to Hell.
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hesright

Fuck occultists.
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You don't know what occultism is let alone who is or isn't a practitioner.
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Different levels in Astral plane and depending on what you eat,drink or smoke, can influence which levels of plane and entity you experience. Archons will look for you there and will try break you.
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Do you have any suggestions or experiences as to which consumables lead to which effects? Is there a list or text I can reference?
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Everyone who participates in Occult activity will go to Hell.
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hesright

Fuck occultists.
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I am most certainly not an "occultist". These abilities of mine are god-given gifts that were not obtained through ritual or contract. I am a servant of The Christ and The True God.
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Different levels in Astral plane and depending on what you eat,drink or smoke, can influence which levels of plane and entity you experience. Archons will look for you there and will try break you.
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Do you have any suggestions or experiences as to which consumables lead to which effects? Is there a list or text I can reference?
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What you describe is has many similar themes to experiences I've heard from others and experienced several times. In a nutshell it's parasitic every harvesting.

Smoking weed very frequently affects my meditation quality and invites attack if out of body. Moderation in all things is what I have to learn better.

When everything is razor sharp and at my most steady is when getting lots of good exercise, good rem sleep, eating fresh food with minimum processing and refining.
That's basically putting down a uno reverse card to ominous entities... now they watch out from you.


And I'll state openly (before judgment patrol chime in) that always in meditation and walking on astral planes, i am humble before and seek the Christ spirit. Let go of fire and brimstone you fucks and evolve spiritually!.. you are in a war and still can't see your foe.
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Different levels in Astral plane and depending on what you eat,drink or smoke, can influence which levels of plane and entity you experience. Archons will look for you there and will try break you.
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Do you have any suggestions or experiences as to which consumables lead to which effects? Is there a list or text I can reference?
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What you describe is has many similar themes to experiences I've heard from others and experienced several times. In a nutshell it's parasitic every harvesting.

Smoking weed very frequently affects my meditation quality and invites attack if out of body. Moderation in all things is what I have to learn better.

When everything is razor sharp and at my most steady is when getting lots of good exercise, good rem sleep, eating fresh food with minimum processing and refining.
That's basically putting down a uno reverse card to ominous entities... now they watch out from you.


And I'll state openly (before judgment patrol chime in) that always in meditation and walking on astral planes, i am humble before and seek the Christ spirit. Let go of fire and brimstone you fucks and evolve spiritually!.. you are in a war and still can't see your foe.
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* parasitic energy harvesting
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OP, I think you just ran into a soul farm controller.

Just a bot.

Or a human who sided with bots.

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I came here to share this with you:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

In Joy! hf

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Can you offer any tips on lucid dreaming / astral projection?

Thank you! abduct
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OP, I think you just ran into a soul farm controller.

Just a bot.

Or a human who sided with bots.

\\\\

I came here to share this with you:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

In Joy! hf

\\\\

Can you offer any tips on lucid dreaming / astral projection?

Thank you! abduct
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Preface: I'm a "dreamwalker" with a fair amount of experience in exploring the astral and etheric levels of our world through deliberate lucid dreams. About 90% of my dreams are lucid. I will occasionally have true OOBEs (out-of-body experiences) such as the one I had this afternoon, documented for posterity and analysis. I had a run-in with a strange entity inside a local church and I am curious what you will make of it.

Leaving my body, I scanned the large city I live in, and immediately was drawn to a large gothic style catholic church some ways away. Entering through the doors, I saw an entrancing light shimmering through the stained glass windows that I would never have seen in the physical. It was a living, moving current that pulsed like electricity, but was of a golden yellow color and appeared to move in shapes quite like an integrated circuit such as on the back of a microchip. There were only a few people in the church, mostly clergy in their robes, but I paid little attention to them. Instead I began climbing the staircase off of the foyer to see how high it went. It led me to the top of the balcony sitting atop the main hall and behind the pews where I noticed another door that wasn't in the physical world.

Going through it, I found a room that was bigger than the entire physical church and was hit with an ominous feeling. It appeared as a giant derelict factory with musty air and suspension cables running above a bottomless floor with more such cables traversing the room below as far as the eye could see. I noticed that on the cables hung some sort of suspended "baskets" although they looked more like a cross between a hammock and a sleeping bag, each one capable of accommodating a full human body. As I turned to leave, I saw that the door had disappeared, but the threshold had not. However it now led to a dark but luxuriously furnished bedroom in which stood a woman. She was smiling softy, rather beautiful, blonde, and about mid-forties from what I could see. If I had to draw comparison between her and a familiar face, I'd say that she somewhat resembled the actress Lucy Lawless. Suddenly without any action of my own, I found myself in one of the baskets in the factory room I had just left. Immediately I could feel that some sort of mind control being applied to me and I noticed something was attempting to extract energy from my lower chakras. I felt pacified, unafraid and being gently pushed to comply, while the entire time I could still sense the woman's presence.

Luckily, I'm very difficult to control - my true will stepped in and broke the hold.I made a "jump" to what I presumed was the ground floor outside the church. Instead, I appeared to be in a transportation terminal at the physical level nearby. It was crowded with many people, all wearing their masks. I was surprised when the crowd appeared to actually notice me! Normally you are invisible in the astral to physical folk. Immediately, a young girl pointed at me and said, "mom, he's not wearing his mask!" This clearly wasn't the physical world anymore so I turned and hid behind a column and manifested a large jacket and a face covering to blend in.

Pushing through the mass of people and frequently excusing myself, I got to the door of the terminal and went outside to the street. It greatly resembled my physical city and I could see many grocery stores along the main street with words written in Spanish. Having had enough of this, I readied myself to make the jump back to my body only to be pulled into an abstract space - intercepted by the same woman from before! She tried to wipe my memories, unsuccessfully. Before I broke free for the second time, I asked her who the hell she was and want she wanted from me. Her answer was ominous, although she spoke it with a calm sonorous voice and a soft smile - "You'll find out soon enough".

What the hell is up with people wearing masks in the astral realm?! Has anyone else experienced anything like this?

Any ideas as to what sort of entity I was dealing with? Another coincidence is that the archontic principality which rules my city is "Lawlessness", similar to the last name of the actress which this female entity resembled.
 Quoting: The Alkahest


Everyone who participates in Occult activity will go to Hell.
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There is no hell.

When weak souls are too stupid to turn away from the sun tomb magnetization - their souls go there to get reprogrammed.

They are told they have unfinished "karma" (karma? Who's idea of Karma was it?) and that they must return to Earth to correct it.

You are afraid of occult activity because you were taught to be.

Your archonic programming is showing.

What you gonna do about it?

kd
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Different levels in Astral plane and depending on what you eat,drink or smoke, can influence which levels of plane and entity you experience. Archons will look for you there and will try break you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80564391


Do you have any suggestions or experiences as to which consumables lead to which effects? Is there a list or text I can reference?
 Quoting: The Alkahest


Wild mushrooms in particular the red caps that grow out of dog shit. It's 5th dimension shit.
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OP, I think you just ran into a soul farm controller.

Just a bot.

Or a human who sided with bots.

\\\\

I came here to share this with you:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

In Joy! hf

\\\\

Can you offer any tips on lucid dreaming / astral projection?

Thank you! abduct
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It makes a great deal of sense to have a soul farm located in the astral plane layered above a physical church. Imagine what sort of spiritual current they could extract from the parishioners when they are entranced in prayer or singing their psalms. While their bodies are in the building, I imagine that their astral selves could be fitted into that infernal machinery I saw. Now I'm curious to see whether such apparatuses are present at most houses of worship.

As for lucid dreaming, I just got lucky to have been born with the gift. However I have been able to refine that skill by keeping a dream journal, practicing environmental awareness of sensations while awake, and regular meditation which takes me into a trance state similar to dreaming. While I'm in a trance, I practice by imagining movement with my astral body and trying to fool myself into believing that I am already dreaming. That last technique was essential to being able to manipulate the astral environment itself, as I've only recently cracked it. I've been able to grow extra limbs, shapeshift, project lightning, fly, change the tangiblity of objects and teleport malevolent entities away from me. Once, I made an inanimate astral object animated and used it as a lure to get a "dogman" to chase it instead of me. Really fun stuff at first, but lately there's a lot of malevolence in the astral realm. Something big is going down.
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OP, I think you just ran into a soul farm controller.

Just a bot.

Or a human who sided with bots.

\\\\

I came here to share this with you:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

In Joy! hf

\\\\

Can you offer any tips on lucid dreaming / astral projection?

Thank you! abduct
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Wow, you have no idea how much synchronicity occurred while I was watching that video! It lined up perfect with a documentary I was watching simultaneously. The answers in your video completed lines of questioning that were being expressed in the other. It's a good sign. Oh, as a P.S. to my other reply to you, a small amount of nicotine in the form of a slow-release patch is one of my projection/dreaming cheats. Use sparingly as it can build a tolerance fast and make it worthless.
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I've had pacification/sedation technology used on me before.

Sometimes I wake up in an astral military-hospital on a ship. When they notice me awakening, they use a kind of pacification gun on me. It tends to send me to 'astral sleep', and I wake up back in physical reality (this world)... unless I fight really hard.
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Regular astral traveller here!

Why would u presume she is something more of a negative nature? Because u felt energy being drawn from ur lower chakras? To me it sounds like it he female being Iv witnessed too. She is drawing energy out of u for a reason. Get ready because ur a witness to merging dimensions.

Yes Iv seen them wear masks in the astral. Do u know why u saw this? It’s because astral and hear are now half merged.

As a astral projector for u on a regular basis, u should know that what goes there, manifests here following. What u see in the astral, u will see here after.

Curious on the abstract space. U have not given much detail on this but which would help in understanding a bit more. Was it the void, black space or white space. Was it a space separated between which sometimes is filled with swirling colours and geometric patterns. Was u in a inbetween space?

She talking about the 2 worlds are coming together. We have been becoming more and more fluid. When I say fluid it’s an astral word for me. As the astral is more fluid. Everything is manifested at will and u cannot really move through the astral without doing this.
When I was a child. This being always pulled me out my body by my feet. Took me to this desert. There was a little hut with picket fence. The being used to communicate through thoughts and tell me what to do. I’d be stood on the fence and it tell me to use my intention to fly. Now this took 6 months of being pulled out of my body to go to this place and learn to control myself in the astral by flying being one of the first lessons. I remember each time I’d try and leap of the fence in hope to fly, I’d come crashing down on to my face. Although I never felt pain. I always felt an energetic knit expand. Once I took that first leap and flew, that was it, everything became fluid.

In the last few years in this dimension, everything is becoming more fluid. Fluid is movement of energy and intentions. We are merging with the astral and once it’s fully merged. We will become fully fluid multidimensional beings.

The gold yellow light is what mostly prompted me to comment. That is source!
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Different levels in Astral plane and depending on what you eat,drink or smoke, can influence which levels of plane and entity you experience. Archons will look for you there and will try break you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80564391


Do you have any suggestions or experiences as to which consumables lead to which effects? Is there a list or text I can reference?
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Errrr this is not true. What u eat and all that. No. But what does influence which density level is ur emotions and thoughts. If u are struggling with anxiety and fear then u will most likely project into a much denser level of the astral.

There is 3 levels of densities. High, med and lower. U know when u enter a lower density because the lighting around u is much denser. Sometimes more of a bluer haze fluidity.

Ppl also mention about archons searching. This name means nothing in the astral. Archons? U mean the astral police ye, they are the ones that search out certain projectors and prevent them. There is also the lower lower level entities. They also seek out like vampires. Astral spiders are one of these. Saw these few times.
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Different levels in Astral plane and depending on what you eat,drink or smoke, can influence which levels of plane and entity you experience. Archons will look for you there and will try break you.
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Do you have any suggestions or experiences as to which consumables lead to which effects? Is there a list or text I can reference?
 Quoting: The Alkahest


What you describe is has many similar themes to experiences I've heard from others and experienced several times. In a nutshell it's parasitic every harvesting.

Smoking weed very frequently affects my meditation quality and invites attack if out of body. Moderation in all things is what I have to learn better.

When everything is razor sharp and at my most steady is when getting lots of good exercise, good rem sleep, eating fresh food with minimum processing and refining.
That's basically putting down a uno reverse card to ominous entities... now they watch out from you.


And I'll state openly (before judgment patrol chime in) that always in meditation and walking on astral planes, i am humble before and seek the Christ spirit. Let go of fire and brimstone you fucks and evolve spiritually!.. you are in a war and still can't see your foe.
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Different levels in Astral plane and depending on what you eat,drink or smoke, can influence which levels of plane and entity you experience. Archons will look for you there and will try break you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80564391


Do you have any suggestions or experiences as to which consumables lead to which effects? Is there a list or text I can reference?
 Quoting: The Alkahest


What you describe is has many similar themes to experiences I've heard from others and experienced several times. In a nutshell it's parasitic every harvesting.

Smoking weed very frequently affects my meditation quality and invites attack if out of body. Moderation in all things is what I have to learn better.

When everything is razor sharp and at my most steady is when getting lots of good exercise, good rem sleep, eating fresh food with minimum processing and refining.
That's basically putting down a uno reverse card to ominous entities... now they watch out from you.


And I'll state openly (before judgment patrol chime in) that always in meditation and walking on astral planes, i am humble before and seek the Christ spirit. Let go of fire and brimstone you fucks and evolve spiritually!.. you are in a war and still can't see your foe.
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Smoking weed affects ur meditation? Did u really just say that? Oh deary me

That’s the first thing I do before meditation and going into a deep state, helps with channeling and projection easier.
When Go to do some craft, like painting, il have a doob then get on with it. Puts me in a trance state whilst painting. I receive so much info while doing this.

My third eye is much more open if I smoke. I don’t get attacks or nout.

It helps to open up ur awareness.
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OP, I think you just ran into a soul farm controller.

Just a bot.

Or a human who sided with bots.

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Can you offer any tips on lucid dreaming / astral projection?

Thank you! abduct
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It makes a great deal of sense to have a soul farm located in the astral plane layered above a physical church. Imagine what sort of spiritual current they could extract from the parishioners when they are entranced in prayer or singing their psalms. While their bodies are in the building, I imagine that their astral selves could be fitted into that infernal machinery I saw. Now I'm curious to see whether such apparatuses are present at most houses of worship.

As for lucid dreaming, I just got lucky to have been born with the gift. However I have been able to refine that skill by keeping a dream journal, practicing environmental awareness of sensations while awake, and regular meditation which takes me into a trance state similar to dreaming. While I'm in a trance, I practice by imagining movement with my astral body and trying to fool myself into believing that I am already dreaming. That last technique was essential to being able to manipulate the astral environment itself, as I've only recently cracked it. I've been able to grow extra limbs, shapeshift, project lightning, fly, change the tangiblity of objects and teleport malevolent entities away from me. Once, I made an inanimate astral object animated and used it as a lure to get a "dogman" to chase it instead of me. Really fun stuff at first, but lately there's a lot of malevolence in the astral realm. Something big is going down.
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U say u can teleport malevolent entities away. Ye this took me years also to learn. It’s very crucial thing to learn in the astral but more so for this dimension also. Although I was trained in the astral. I went for schooling and everything. Had to go on missions to seek out dark entities for years but it was never alone. We were always in groups with a high up being watching us.
These entries started to manifest in the physical and I spent few years freeking out. Until one day I realised that I can use the same sort of will in this dimension also.
The entity was that close in this dimension that it was causing violent paranormal activity. I confronted it head on and used my etheric while conscious in physical body to blast it far away from me. It worked!

It’s the unmanifest. That is the source of the dimensional issues. Most dimensions are in the middle of a war, dark bs light. It’s a real thing, not a made up story. One of the reasons why I was trained in the astral. U sure u were not trained also and just forgot?

Something changed with auras lately too. I’m seeing ethnics literally coming away from some ppl. Like a lagging.
My own field is also had some changes. Something huge is about to happen. Our fields are changing as well as earths. Mine has become more electrified and spinning much like the spinning wheels.

Look at our dimension right now. The dark is consuming this dimension through walkins. Conscious invasion is going on right now.

Secret is that they are now part of the plan. The dark that is. The more they flow through the more our fields are going to blow. Meaning our power that lays dormant will blow. That will be the start of the final merging process. All from source.
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I've had pacification/sedation technology used on me before.

Sometimes I wake up in an astral military-hospital on a ship. When they notice me awakening, they use a kind of pacification gun on me. It tends to send me to 'astral sleep', and I wake up back in physical reality (this world)... unless I fight really hard.
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I've had similar things happen. They were trying to make "adjustments" to me several times. Sometimes it was consensual, such as when a group of presumably extraterrestrial entities worked on "unpacking" my junk DNA. Got a substantial boost in my abilities afterwards. Other times I've managed to get up off the operating table and cause them severe distress. They we like, "is he supposed to be able to do that?" They never bothered to chase me after that, it was just like, "meh, whatever".

But yes, the pacification field is quite unsettling because it's not at all an unpleasant feeling. Almost like being on opiates. You have to fight it with pure willpower, not anger or aggression, as those emotions become muted under the influence of the field.
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If ur waking up in the astral military area then I’d be asking urself a lot of questions.

This is not good!

Iv seen these military working in the astral in a non bound area. Working along side the tall white! They are seeking certain projectors for there gain to prevent certain things. If u have woken up in this then u need to find away of removing what ever they have done to u. Simple.

The tall ones are in control of the American military black suited. There gain is to control dimensions from 4D and trying to find entry to higher dimensions. They are also preventing some projectors from entering 5D.

If u were an experienced astral traveller then u will know what I mean by out of bound zone areas. The astral police work along side the tall whites and police the dimensions.

I would also suggest that mixing with other projectors is hat allow military projectors to capture them, to stay clear of these projectors as they do have attachments on them of control.
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Regular astral traveller here!

Why would u presume she is something more of a negative nature? Because u felt energy being drawn from ur lower chakras? To me it sounds like it he female being Iv witnessed too. She is drawing energy out of u for a reason. Get ready because ur a witness to merging dimensions.

Yes Iv seen them wear masks in the astral. Do u know why u saw this? It’s because astral and hear are now half merged.

As a astral projector for u on a regular basis, u should know that what goes there, manifests here following. What u see in the astral, u will see here after.

Curious on the abstract space. U have not given much detail on this but which would help in understanding a bit more. Was it the void, black space or white space. Was it a space separated between which sometimes is filled with swirling colours and geometric patterns. Was u in a inbetween space?

She talking about the 2 worlds are coming together. We have been becoming more and more fluid. When I say fluid it’s an astral word for me. As the astral is more fluid. Everything is manifested at will and u cannot really move through the astral without doing this.
When I was a child. This being always pulled me out my body by my feet. Took me to this desert. There was a little hut with picket fence. The being used to communicate through thoughts and tell me what to do. I’d be stood on the fence and it tell me to use my intention to fly. Now this took 6 months of being pulled out of my body to go to this place and learn to control myself in the astral by flying being one of the first lessons. I remember each time I’d try and leap of the fence in hope to fly, I’d come crashing down on to my face. Although I never felt pain. I always felt an energetic knit expand. Once I took that first leap and flew, that was it, everything became fluid.

In the last few years in this dimension, everything is becoming more fluid. Fluid is movement of energy and intentions. We are merging with the astral and once it’s fully merged. We will become fully fluid multidimensional beings.

The gold yellow light is what mostly prompted me to comment. That is source!
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I usually get a good read on an entity's energy and intentions. But it depends on how much of their perspective they are open to having me read. I know the vibration of unconditional love very well and this entity was producing what felt like a disingenuous simulation of it - a false light. I am acquainted enough with archons to know that is one of their tells. I'm not certain what she was doing to my vital energies except she claimed to be "re-balancing" an excess of certain frequencies in my body. It felt too much like rape to me for me to be comfortable allowing her to proceed and she was definitely altering my emotions and clouding my judgement. Had she asked for my consent, I probably would likely have given it to her, but alas, she did not.

The abstract space was as you described, the "lesser lights of the Bardo" as the Buddhists call it - the same patterns as one sees when on psychedelics or in deep meditation. I associate that space with 6th dimensional energies.

I see you associate the golden-yellow light with The Source. Have you ever pushed beyond it? In my experience, there is an incomprehensible color above it, like a combination of clear light with an impossibly velvet-black in which I can see the tiny lights of stars and galaxies! When I'm in the black light, I finally feel like I've returned home. It's pure ecstasy.

It's so awesome to finally have someone else who I can talk to about these things!

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Different levels in Astral plane and depending on what you eat,drink or smoke, can influence which levels of plane and entity you experience. Archons will look for you there and will try break you.
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Do you have any suggestions or experiences as to which consumables lead to which effects? Is there a list or text I can reference?
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Errrr this is not true. What u eat and all that. No. But what does influence which density level is ur emotions and thoughts. If u are struggling with anxiety and fear then u will most likely project into a much denser level of the astral.

There is 3 levels of densities. High, med and lower. U know when u enter a lower density because the lighting around u is much denser. Sometimes more of a bluer haze fluidity.

Ppl also mention about archons searching. This name means nothing in the astral. Archons? U mean the astral police ye, they are the ones that search out certain projectors and prevent them. There is also the lower lower level entities. They also seek out like vampires. Astral spiders are one of these. Saw these few times.
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Ah, the astral spiders! I made friends with one. Sometimes they react out of pure instinct and do things they don't actually intend. They can manifest a strange "siphon" from behind their heads and appear to be at least partially mechanical or cybernetic. The female-identifying spider I met had an erudite vocabulary and apologized for scaring me. She had the voice of a doting old grandmother and reminded me of "Aunt Beast" from the Wrinkle In Time book series. They have a remarkable body and I spent some time copying their form onto mine and figuring out how to walk with all those legs! Needless to say I was rather clumsy in their bodies...
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Everyone who participates in Occult activity will go to Hell.




That’s like saying everyone who uses electricity is going to hell.
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I just think it seems to me ur are being discharged of certain dense energies that are preventing something within u. I do not think she was a trickster at all. Alls I say is prepare for the life force energy to move.
Think ur about to experience a new type of projection, upgrade in ur field. U may think it does not need to be but it does.

Yes I was waiting for u to say 6D! Didn’t want to plant that there for u. Iv only managed to be in this space few times as an adult but many times as a child. It is much like being in the clouds full of many colours. Every angle there is doors.
Although there is a similar place below 3D but much denser with doors on each edge. Doors are like tests also. If the door appears, u don’t question what’s behind it or ur intention will change what’s behind it. Sometimes it’s just void behind the door. This is unmanifest which is home. Where we reside as consciousness as we project down into dimensions. Some fear entering this door.
Moving through the layers, these doors are used. Can u remember these?

The gold shimmering light is sources energy. It’s not a trick or false. Don’t fall into the trap of thinking this is false light.
When I incarnated I remember. Before being asked to enter the unmanifest to incarnate. The light is just a shining of the other side of unmanifest. Unmanifest is a pod. Within the light, there is a place. U have to enter that place to come out the other end to leave the full incarnation. The golden kingdom within the light as ppl call heaven is just a temporary place for souls to fully strip before leaving unmanifest back to where they originate.

I know all to well on source light and what is beyond.

Now if an entity was to trick u. They don’t pull from all 3 lower chakras. It’s always from the solar plexus. But because u said u felt energy being pulled from ur lower 3 chakras then that tells me she is pulling up ur life force. Prepare for full on kundalini awakening and fast speed. This may interfere with future projections for short period while ur life force starts its work. She is not a trickster.

When I have come into contact with dark entities quiet high up the peg, on attack of alenergy it’s always felt in the solar plexus and just a little below the heart chakra. This can be felt very strongly.

Ever been shot at directly in the astral? U don’t feel the pain but u do feel this very very heavy expansion that really ways u down, u cannot manifest well in this mode and everything slows right down to the point u end up back in ur body with violent vibrations. This is always felt below the heart and solar plexus. Where ur cord is.
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Different levels in Astral plane and depending on what you eat,drink or smoke, can influence which levels of plane and entity you experience. Archons will look for you there and will try break you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80564391


Do you have any suggestions or experiences as to which consumables lead to which effects? Is there a list or text I can reference?
 Quoting: The Alkahest


Errrr this is not true. What u eat and all that. No. But what does influence which density level is ur emotions and thoughts. If u are struggling with anxiety and fear then u will most likely project into a much denser level of the astral.

There is 3 levels of densities. High, med and lower. U know when u enter a lower density because the lighting around u is much denser. Sometimes more of a bluer haze fluidity.

Ppl also mention about archons searching. This name means nothing in the astral. Archons? U mean the astral police ye, they are the ones that search out certain projectors and prevent them. There is also the lower lower level entities. They also seek out like vampires. Astral spiders are one of these. Saw these few times.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79260144


Ah, the astral spiders! I made friends with one. Sometimes they react out of pure instinct and do things they don't actually intend. They can manifest a strange "siphon" from behind their heads and appear to be at least partially mechanical or cybernetic. The female-identifying spider I met had an erudite vocabulary and apologized for scaring me. She had the voice of a doting old grandmother and reminded me of "Aunt Beast" from the Wrinkle In Time book series. They have a remarkable body and I spent some time copying their form onto mine and figuring out how to walk with all those legs! Needless to say I was rather clumsy in their bodies...
 Quoting: The Alkahest


Not many know about these spiders :)

I was in a very violent abused ve relationship years ago. I knew also he had some entity attachment which I saw in a few occasions. He also had severe mental health issues which showed he was very unpredicatable and violent. Anyway I woke up in paralysis state. I heard spirit say don’t move. I wanted to project but they said don’t move. I was laying there thinking well why not. Found myself sit up a little out my body but legs still attached. Looked over and could see he was fast asleep and etheric spiders cling to him sucking his energy. I remember thinking ha good, he deserves it. Then my thought changed quickly and thought oh maybe not good. There was one spider on the wall and it was transparent with long legs, no body just all legs. There were more of them on top of him sucking this energy. It’s was but weirded out tbh
At the time I thought ohhh negative entities. But now they are used for both purposes. They draw out negative energies, like I circle.

Anyway they are so bloody creepy! They can be huge as well. Always come in through the corners of the shadows. They known as astral parasite vampires

Ppl always say physical spiders are dimensional walkers!
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If ur waking up in the astral military area then I’d be asking urself a lot of questions.

This is not good!

Iv seen these military working in the astral in a non bound area. Working along side the tall white! They are seeking certain projectors for there gain to prevent certain things. If u have woken up in this then u need to find away of removing what ever they have done to u. Simple.

The tall ones are in control of the American military black suited. There gain is to control dimensions from 4D and trying to find entry to higher dimensions. They are also preventing some projectors from entering 5D.

If u were an experienced astral traveller then u will know what I mean by out of bound zone areas. The astral police work along side the tall whites and police the dimensions.

I would also suggest that mixing with other projectors is hat allow military projectors to capture them, to stay clear of these projectors as they do have attachments on them of control.
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Well, whenever I show up in the off-limits areas, they make it quite clear that I'm not invited... They have non-human entities standing guard that look an awful lot like werewolves. They can move extremely fast in the form of a black contrail of mist and travel through circular portals. Shapeshifting is my primary tool to avoid conflict in those unfriendly zones and it's probably my best skill. I use it reflexively, sometimes without even being aware that I'm doing it.

But actually, most of the groups I see participating in military-style drills are actually rather nice. They're humanoids with cerulean blue skin and use a multi-purpose weapon that looks like a baton, which also assists them in astral flight. They've got huge troop carriers there as well that look like three circles joined together in a trinity pattern. I believe these are Arcturians.
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I just think it seems to me ur are being discharged of certain dense energies that are preventing something within u. I do not think she was a trickster at all. Alls I say is prepare for the life force energy to move.
Think ur about to experience a new type of projection, upgrade in ur field. U may think it does not need to be but it does.

Yes I was waiting for u to say 6D! Didn’t want to plant that there for u. Iv only managed to be in this space few times as an adult but many times as a child. It is much like being in the clouds full of many colours. Every angle there is doors.
Although there is a similar place below 3D but much denser with doors on each edge. Doors are like tests also. If the door appears, u don’t question what’s behind it or ur intention will change what’s behind it. Sometimes it’s just void behind the door. This is unmanifest which is home. Where we reside as consciousness as we project down into dimensions. Some fear entering this door.
Moving through the layers, these doors are used. Can u remember these?

The gold shimmering light is sources energy. It’s not a trick or false. Don’t fall into the trap of thinking this is false light.
When I incarnated I remember. Before being asked to enter the unmanifest to incarnate. The light is just a shining of the other side of unmanifest. Unmanifest is a pod. Within the light, there is a place. U have to enter that place to come out the other end to leave the full incarnation. The golden kingdom within the light as ppl call heaven is just a temporary place for souls to fully strip before leaving unmanifest back to where they originate.

I know all to well on source light and what is beyond.

Now if an entity was to trick u. They don’t pull from all 3 lower chakras. It’s always from the solar plexus. But because u said u felt energy being pulled from ur lower 3 chakras then that tells me she is pulling up ur life force. Prepare for full on kundalini awakening and fast speed. This may interfere with future projections for short period while ur life force starts its work. She is not a trickster.

When I have come into contact with dark entities quiet high up the peg, on attack of alenergy it’s always felt in the solar plexus and just a little below the heart chakra. This can be felt very strongly.

Ever been shot at directly in the astral? U don’t feel the pain but u do feel this very very heavy expansion that really ways u down, u cannot manifest well in this mode and everything slows right down to the point u end up back in ur body with violent vibrations. This is always felt below the heart and solar plexus. Where ur cord is.
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Fortunately, I've only had one encounter with an entity that went for my solar plexus. It was a centipede that another humanoid entity launched at me. It caused a temporary paralysis before I managed to rip it off my chest and dissolve it with light. I've worked out a technique that creates a shield barrier which dissolves these creatures on contact now. My auric field has a clockwise spin.

I've also already had my full kundalini awakening as of just two years ago. It started in early childhood but for some reason was halted at my throat chakra for two decades. Needless to say, it was the most intense experience of my entire life! Before that point, I thought my energy flow was already quite strong, but my god, was I wrong! Turns out I had no idea what kundalini energy could really feel like until that happened. I literally saw the unmanifest as a fire burning around my body and a massive wave of that energy went screaming out into the world. I was giggling deliriously for hours after that.

And yes, I do agree that the golden-yellow is the color of the source but it's more about the texture of the energy than the color. You can feel when it's the real thing.
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