Which is a better anti tank system? Jeveline or Nlaw for Ukrane to fry ruskie buryat? | |
roguetechie81
User ID: 79785318 United States 01/22/2022 06:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the Jevelin has a range of 2K meters while the Nlaw is only 800 meters though the latter is lighter and can be used in closed quarters and city combat... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81414039 both are smart AI missile guided systems and have 100% guarantee of destroying a t72 Nothing has a 100% guarantee, especially neither of those. The NLAW is much easier for only semi trained users to operate while the jav is far more capable but requires a much better trained operator to work right. Also the jav CLU on it's own is a powerful tool recon and etc if one knows how to use it. The NLAW has quite a few downsides honestly not the least of which is your actual range limit is probably going to be 500 meters in actual use. Getting within 500 meters of a tank, especially when fighting the Russians is not going to be easy. roguetechie |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 81414039 Czechia 01/22/2022 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the Jevelin has a range of 2K meters while the Nlaw is only 800 meters though the latter is lighter and can be used in closed quarters and city combat... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81414039 both are smart AI missile guided systems and have 100% guarantee of destroying a t72 Nothing has a 100% guarantee, especially neither of those. The NLAW is much easier for only semi trained users to operate while the jav is far more capable but requires a much better trained operator to work right. Also the jav CLU on it's own is a powerful tool recon and etc if one knows how to use it. The NLAW has quite a few downsides honestly not the least of which is your actual range limit is probably going to be 500 meters in actual use. Getting within 500 meters of a tank, especially when fighting the Russians is not going to be easy. really not when fighting old tin cans like t72?? and getting within 500 meters will be easy given it's gonna city-guerrilla warfare all the way don't expect no battle of kurst in the post plannedemic world |
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The Clown At Midnight User ID: 80726183 Kazakhstan 01/22/2022 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the Jevelin has a range of 2K meters while the Nlaw is only 800 meters though the latter is lighter and can be used in closed quarters and city combat... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81414039 both are smart AI missile guided systems and have 100% guarantee of destroying a t72 I'd say put away your comic books and get back to doing your homework. . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77308593 Denmark 01/22/2022 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the Jevelin has a range of 2K meters while the Nlaw is only 800 meters though the latter is lighter and can be used in closed quarters and city combat... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81414039 both are smart AI missile guided systems and have 100% guarantee of destroying a t72 One of them is wired right? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 81414039 Czechia 01/22/2022 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the Jevelin has a range of 2K meters while the Nlaw is only 800 meters though the latter is lighter and can be used in closed quarters and city combat... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81414039 both are smart AI missile guided systems and have 100% guarantee of destroying a t72 I'd say put away your comic books and get back to doing your homework. . oh, a scared buryat couldn't resist whachya doing posting anyway...shoulndt you be in some foxhole out there on Ukraine's border? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77308593 Denmark 01/22/2022 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the Jevelin has a range of 2K meters while the Nlaw is only 800 meters though the latter is lighter and can be used in closed quarters and city combat... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81414039 both are smart AI missile guided systems and have 100% guarantee of destroying a t72 One of them is wired right? nm thats the Tow |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 81414039 Czechia 01/22/2022 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the Jevelin has a range of 2K meters while the Nlaw is only 800 meters though the latter is lighter and can be used in closed quarters and city combat... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81414039 both are smart AI missile guided systems and have 100% guarantee of destroying a t72 One of them is wired right? none are, just shoot and run |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77308593 Denmark 01/22/2022 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the Jevelin has a range of 2K meters while the Nlaw is only 800 meters though the latter is lighter and can be used in closed quarters and city combat... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81414039 both are smart AI missile guided systems and have 100% guarantee of destroying a t72 One of them is wired right? none are, just shoot and run But only the Tow can beat a ECM environment though |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79660464 United States 01/22/2022 07:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Deploy them to natural barriers,...rivers, mountain passes, inner city choke points. Doesn't matter which one you use, just make sure every single shot counts for a hit. It takes soldiers with large stones to get close to the enemy. I hope Ukraines soldiers are well prepared physically, mentally, and with enough guns and ammo to repulse an invasion of their homeland. Let's go, Ukraine!! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78719547 Estonia 01/22/2022 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Deploy them to natural barriers,...rivers, mountain passes, inner city choke points. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79660464 Doesn't matter which one you use, just make sure every single shot counts for a hit. It takes soldiers with large stones to get close to the enemy. I hope Ukraines soldiers are well prepared physically, mentally, and with enough guns and ammo to repulse an invasion of their homeland. Let's go, Ukraine!! amen brother |
TruthInvestigator
User ID: 59931444 Canada 01/22/2022 10:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the Jevelin has a range of 2K meters while the Nlaw is only 800 meters though the latter is lighter and can be used in closed quarters and city combat... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81414039 both are smart AI missile guided systems and have 100% guarantee of destroying a t72 T72's are 50 years old are not the Russian army's main battle tanks, the T90 & T90's are with the T50 Armata already coming into service. The T90-92's have the world leading Arena "Anti-tank Missle" countermeasure sytem against US & NATO TOW, Javelin, RPG, whatever. The Arena sytem has been retrofitted to a few Syrian Army tanks during the conflict there. So far from the video below & a number of others Arena has a 100% survival rate (along with the crews) against US long-range anti-tank & RPGs. Not a good thing. A US Pentagon general made a statement a while back after the full length video of the short edited own below came out. He said what he saw, and what their analysts are saying is quite troubling for them. The now coming to the field Russian T50 Armata to a 1980's design US Abrams.. is what a 5th gen US X22 stealth fighter is to an 80's 3rd gen US F14. The T50 Armata in no really just a tank.. it is a tank-5th gen fighter aircraft hybrid.. with ground penetrating radar-active explosive mine defense, 360 land-sky battlefield networked phased aray radar to track & target threats from enemy planes/bombs/missles and then deploy numerous anti-air & anti-ground attack electronic counter measurers/anti- air missle systems/anti "anti-tank missle" & RPG reactive explosive systems. The T50 Armata, unlike any US, NATO, other country, is fully battlefield networked to ground/air/satellite offensive & defensive systems. Not only is the T50 Armata the most technically advanced battlefield tank in history with the best defensive systems ever seen in tank warfare, it is all the most survivable tank ever for the crew... and only in part to its world leading densive systems. The crew sits in a titanium compartment seperate from the ammunition unlike all other modern tanjs.. meaning the crew will have vastly increased survivability even if something does get through its defensive systems. https://imgur.com/QxStXDf https://imgur.com/vQMBBDH https://imgur.com/fF6siaf https://imgur.com/Ed3VOJH Last Edited by TruthInvestigator on 01/22/2022 10:40 PM TruthInvestigator |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78426733 Poland 01/23/2022 03:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the Jevelin has a range of 2K meters while the Nlaw is only 800 meters though the latter is lighter and can be used in closed quarters and city combat... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81414039 both are smart AI missile guided systems and have 100% guarantee of destroying a t72 T72's are 50 years old are not the Russian army's main battle tanks, the T90 & T90's are with the T50 Armata already coming into service. The T90-92's have the world leading Arena "Anti-tank Missle" countermeasure sytem against US & NATO TOW, Javelin, RPG, whatever. The Arena sytem has been retrofitted to a few Syrian Army tanks during the conflict there. So far from the video below & a number of others Arena has a 100% survival rate (along with the crews) against US long-range anti-tank & RPGs. Not a good thing. A US Pentagon general made a statement a while back after the full length video of the short edited own below came out. He said what he saw, and what their analysts are saying is quite troubling for them. The now coming to the field Russian T50 Armata to a 1980's design US Abrams.. is what a 5th gen US X22 stealth fighter is to an 80's 3rd gen US F14. The T50 Armata in no really just a tank.. it is a tank-5th gen fighter aircraft hybrid.. with ground penetrating radar-active explosive mine defense, 360 land-sky battlefield networked phased aray radar to track & target threats from enemy planes/bombs/missles and then deploy numerous anti-air & anti-ground attack electronic counter measurers/anti- air missle systems/anti "anti-tank missle" & RPG reactive explosive systems. The T50 Armata, unlike any US, NATO, other country, is fully battlefield networked to ground/air/satellite offensive & defensive systems. Not only is the T50 Armata the most technically advanced battlefield tank in history with the best defensive systems ever seen in tank warfare, it is all the most survivable tank ever for the crew... and only in part to its world leading densive systems. The crew sits in a titanium compartment seperate from the ammunition unlike all other modern tanjs.. meaning the crew will have vastly increased survivability even if something does get through its defensive systems. [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] you crack me up with yo fairytales about armata |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80431556 United States 01/23/2022 04:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ill take Javeline over all of them as they WORK FIre and forget, no ECM countermeasures affect it because it uses a Camera seeker. Once she leaves the tube, no stopping it and what ever it hits is HISTORY. Here is a French Milan |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77698543 United States 01/23/2022 04:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the Jevelin has a range of 2K meters while the Nlaw is only 800 meters though the latter is lighter and can be used in closed quarters and city combat... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81414039 both are smart AI missile guided systems and have 100% guarantee of destroying a t72 The Russian snipers are going to take out all those Javeline and Nlaw carriers before they can load them. |
StPomor
User ID: 81916691 Russia 01/23/2022 05:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does anyone really think that in 2022 the war will go like in 1943, tank wedges and the like? The experience of Syria shows that no more than 10% of ATGM shots are fired at armored vehicles, the rest is fired anywhere, up to single people. You should not expect any positive impact on the combat capability of the poor Ukrainian soldiers by supplying them with your wunderwafls. If the USA and the company still force the Ukrainians to unleash a war, it will be even funnier than in 2014. I attach photos of what happened to the dill by the military in 2014 near Zelenopol, they did not even have time to understand what and where they were covered and no PTR would have helped them more. PS The pictures couldn't be inserted for some reason. Sorry, I'll give you a link to the photo [link to yandex.ru (secure)] Last Edited by StPomor on 01/23/2022 05:53 AM StPomor |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78426733 Poland 01/23/2022 06:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does anyone really think that in 2022 the war will go like in 1943, tank wedges and the like? The experience of Syria shows that no more than 10% of ATGM shots are fired at armored vehicles, the rest is fired anywhere, up to single people. You should not expect any positive impact on the combat capability of the poor Ukrainian soldiers by supplying them with your wunderwafls. If the USA and the company still force the Ukrainians to unleash a war, it will be even funnier than in 2014. I attach photos of what happened to the dill by the military in 2014 near Zelenopol, they did not even have time to understand what and where they were covered and no PTR would have helped them more. Quoting: StPomor PS The pictures couldn't be inserted for some reason. Sorry, I'll give you a link to the photo [link to yandex.ru (secure)] you must be drunk byryat |
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StPomor
User ID: 81916691 Russia 01/23/2022 07:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm a Pomor, not a Buryat)), although it probably doesn't matter to you. My real name and where I am from is indicated when registering on the forum. I'm not afraid to write my name by registering on an enemy forum, unlike scumbags who prefer to write anonymously. Last Edited by StPomor on 01/23/2022 07:35 AM StPomor |
StPomor
User ID: 81916691 Russia 01/23/2022 07:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | КомментарийComment of the Russian Embassy in connection with the latest statements of the British Foreign Ministry on Russia and Ukraine ?The British Foreign Ministry continues a series of provocative statements on the situation around Ukraine. Having found itself on the sidelines of real diplomatic processes as a result of its short-sighted line, London sees its role in constantly inciting anti-Russian sentiments. The logic is simple: every day to accuse Russia of preparing an "imminent" invasion of Ukraine and on this fictitious "basis" to try to play the role of an ideological leader of the "free world" defending himself from "autocrats". ?This slogan tinsel is combined with the obvious degradation of the British expert potential in the Russian and Ukrainian direction. What is the statement of the Minister of Foreign Affairs E.Truss says that Ukraine has faced numerous invaders in its history – "from the Mongols to the Tatars." The latest news - about Russia's intention to bring to power in Kiev a former deputy of the Verkhovna Rada, who in Russia itself is under sanctions as a person posing a threat to national security - is completely anecdotal. ?However, not to laugh. We see the true professional level of people who, along with these absurd statements, are sending deadly weapons to Ukraine, increasing their own military presence near the Russian borders, encouraging Kiev's sabotage of the Minsk Agreements. ?We strongly urge London to stop stupid rhetorical provocations, which are very dangerous in the current heated situation, and to contribute to real diplomatic efforts to ensure reliable guarantees of European security. StPomor |