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Russia’s Top Five Persistent Disinformation Narratives

 
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#1: “Russia is an Innocent Victim”
After invading Ukraine in 2014, the Russian government and state-controlled disinformation outlets began to accuse anyone who questioned Russia’s actions of being xenophobic Russophobes.
For example, Russia claims that the international community’s negative reaction to its invasion of an independent country was simply because people feared and hated Russia.

#2: Historical Revisionism
When history does not align with the Kremlin’s political objectives, Russian government officials and their proxy voices deny historical events or distort historical narratives to try to cast Russia in a more favorable light and serve its domestic and geopolitical agenda. For example, the 1939 non-aggression pact between the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany, also known as the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, which helped precipitate World War II, is politically inconvenient for the Putin regime. In 2020, in an attempt to minimize and rationalize Stalin’s decision to align himself with Hitler, Putin published a twisted version of the start of World War II, downplaying the Soviet role and shifting blame for the war to other countries. Russia often takes this a step further by labeling those who disagree with its twisted version of history as Nazis or Nazi sympathizers.

#3: “The Collapse of Western Civilization is Imminent”
Russia pushes the false claim that Western civilization is collapsing and has strayed from “traditional values” because it works to ensure the safety and equality of LGBTQI+ people and promotes concepts such as female equality and multiculturalism. The demise of Western civilization is one of Russia’s oldest disinformation tropes, with claims of “the decaying west” documented since the 19th century.
This “values”-based disinformation narrative evokes ill-defined concepts including “tradition,” “family values,” and “spirituality.” Russia argues it is the bastion of so-called “traditional values” and gender roles and serves as a moral counterweight to the “decadence” of the United States and Western countries.
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#4: “Popular Movements are U.S.-sponsored ‘Color Revolutions’”
The Kremlin has difficulty accepting that all individuals should have the human right to freedom of expression, and that the government should be accountable to its people. Russia has accused the United States of either instigating uprisings or plotting “color revolutions” in Georgia, Kazakhstan, the Kyrgyz Republic, Moldova, Ukraine, and throughout the Middle East and Africa. If a popular movement is pro-democracy and pro-reform and not deemed to be in Russia’s geopolitical interests, the Kremlin will often attack its legitimacy and claim that the United States is secretly behind it. These baseless accusations often target local and international civil society organizations, as well as independent media that expose human rights abuses and corruption. The Kremlin seeks to deny that people in neighboring countries could have agency, dignity, and independent aspirations to advocate for themselves, just as it denies these qualities to the people of Russia.

#5: Reality is Whatever the Kremlin Wants It to Be
The Kremlin frequently tries to create multiple false realities and insert confusions into the information environment when the truth is not in its interests. Often intentionally confusing, Russian officials make arguments designed to try to shift the blame away from the Russian government’s role, even if some of the narratives contradict one another. However, in time, presenting multiple conflicting narratives can itself become a technique intended to generate confusion and discourage response. Other elements in Russia’s disinformation and propaganda ecosystem, such as the abuse of state-funded disinformation outlets and weaponized social media, help push multiple false narratives.
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Researchers Identify 200 Websites That ‘Reliably Echo Russian Propaganda’ to Millions of Americans
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I was looking at this and I thought whatever, then I saw it is actually posted on the US State Department website.

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It is look like they have nukes and NATO don't want to be nuked, what you say ?
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Aleksey Gromov, Putin’s first deputy chief of staff, is known to lead the Kremlin’s media apparatus. His protégé, Margarita Simonyan, is editor-in-chief of RT and Rossiya Segodnya, Sputnik’s parent company. The United States sanctioned Gromov for interference in U.S. elections and his role in the 2014 invasion of Ukraine.

Kremlin-supported outlets frequently spread disinformation through false reports that attempt to undermine democracies or views that the Kremlin opposes. Current and former government officials exercise substantial influence over staffing and coverage.

Both RT and Sputnik amplify stories from proxy websites that have ties to Russian intelligence agencies.
One former Sputnik White House correspondent said a supervisor required approval of all questions asked of the White House press secretary.
RT reporters went to Belarus to work for state-owned media after local reporters resigned in protest over Alyaksandr Lukashenka’s fraudulent August 2020 presidential election in Belarus.
A former German employee of RT said the outlet ordered him to spy on Russian opposition figure Aleksey Navalny while the latter was recovering from an assassination attempt in a Berlin hospital.
The All-Russia State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company fired employees in November 2021 who expressed opinions that conflicted with the government’s viewpoint.
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I don't like the Russian regime since they are behind of a lot of the problems that we are facing today, but I would never trust the US establishment too since they are behind the decadence of Europe (and generally of the West) especially after the fall of the Eastern Bloc.
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How Kremlin propaganda distorts reality inside Russia

At the moment, Russian military troops are literally surrounding Ukraine. Though the Kremlin has suggested that this buildup is merely a response to the NATO threat to Russia, there is no talk in Western capitals of deploying offensive missile systems anywhere near Russia’s borders.

In recent weeks, the Kremlin has staged an elaborate diplomatic circus—from mid-December, when the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs published its proposals for a new security architecture in Europe, through mid-January, when they were rejected by representatives of the United States and NATO. The abortive negotiations, however, can be seen as a success for Moscow: the West’s refusal to discuss the Kremlin’s ultimatum helped further propaganda messages at home and prepare TV audiences to accept Vladimir Putin’s next policy moves.
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It is look like they have nukes and NATO don't want to be nuked, what you say ?
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Russia has also a steamer aircraft carrier
Thread: Wood Burning Aircraft Carrier – Russia’s Terrifying Warship Goes to Syria
epiclol
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It is look like they have nukes and NATO don't want to be nuked, what you say ?
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Russia has also a steamer aircraft carrier
Thread: Wood Burning Aircraft Carrier – Russia’s Terrifying Warship Goes to Syria
epiclol
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You see F B I / C I A agent this it what happens when you help steal elections for the degenerates.

You have 0 support from the people, ZERO.
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Russian Disinformation on Ukraine
FACT: False statements from the Putin regime blame the victim, Ukraine, for Russia’s aggression. Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014, occupies Crimea, controls armed forces in the Donbas, and has now amassed more than 100,000 troops on the border with Ukraine while President Putin threatens “retaliatory military-technical” measures if his demands are not met.

FACT: Moscow instigated the current crisis by placing more than 100,000 troops on the border of Ukraine, with no similar military activity on the Ukrainian side of the border. Russian military and intelligence entities are targeting Ukraine with disinformation attempting to paint Ukraine and Ukrainian government officials as the aggressor in the Russia-Ukraine relationship. The Russian government is trying to trick the world into believing Ukraine’s behavior could provoke a global conflict and to convince Russian citizens of the need for Russian military action in Ukraine. Russia blames others for its own aggression.
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I remember some of these so modern NATO technology in Serbia, the serbs have destroyed them with weapons from WW2.
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I remember some of these so modern NATO technology in Serbia, the serbs have destroyed them with weapons from WW2.
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Yep, they shoy an F-117, which is now rwtired from USAF.
Russians are trying the same now, but they will find out it doesn't work.
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It is look like they have nukes and NATO don't want to be nuked, what you say ?
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Russia has also a steamer aircraft carrier
Thread: Wood Burning Aircraft Carrier – Russia’s Terrifying Warship Goes to Syria
epiclol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76658155


You see F B I / C I A agent this it what happens when you help steal elections for the degenerates.

You have 0 support from the people, ZERO.
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true im in the usa and a citizen and i consider the us govt to be my biggest mortal enemy
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It is look like they have nukes and NATO don't want to be nuked, what you say ?
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Russia has also a steamer aircraft carrier
Thread: Wood Burning Aircraft Carrier – Russia’s Terrifying Warship Goes to Syria
epiclol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76658155


You see F B I / C I A agent this it what happens when you help steal elections for the degenerates.

You have 0 support from the people, ZERO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79451012



true im in the usa and a citizen and i consider the us govt to be my biggest mortal enemy
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its right.
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A tech founder compared today's hype around the metaverse with Soviet propaganda he experienced as a child.
"I went to first grade in the Soviet Union," Libin said. "I was subjected to a lot of Soviet propaganda, and I was told as a little kid repeatedly: 'Communism doesn't exist yet. We haven't built communism yet. We're building towards communism. But it's not communism yet. What you see around you, this horrible, horrible place, isn't communism. We're building towards it. It's going to be great when it gets here.'"
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It is look like they have nukes and NATO don't want to be nuked, what you say ?
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Russia has also a steamer aircraft carrier
Thread: Wood Burning Aircraft Carrier – Russia’s Terrifying Warship Goes to Syria
epiclol
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China bought its unfinished sister from Ukraine, and after completion called it Liaoling. It's far better than the Russian crap and has no smoke!
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beware of propaganda

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#1: “Russia is an Innocent Victim”
After invading Ukraine in 2014, the Russian government and state-controlled disinformation outlets began to accuse anyone who questioned Russia’s actions of being xenophobic Russophobes.
For example, Russia claims that the international community’s negative reaction to its invasion of an independent country was simply because people feared and hated Russia.

#2: Historical Revisionism
When history does not align with the Kremlin’s political objectives, Russian government officials and their proxy voices deny historical events or distort historical narratives to try to cast Russia in a more favorable light and serve its domestic and geopolitical agenda. For example, the 1939 non-aggression pact between the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany, also known as the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, which helped precipitate World War II, is politically inconvenient for the Putin regime. In 2020, in an attempt to minimize and rationalize Stalin’s decision to align himself with Hitler, Putin published a twisted version of the start of World War II, downplaying the Soviet role and shifting blame for the war to other countries. Russia often takes this a step further by labeling those who disagree with its twisted version of history as Nazis or Nazi sympathizers.

#3: “The Collapse of Western Civilization is Imminent”
Russia pushes the false claim that Western civilization is collapsing and has strayed from “traditional values” because it works to ensure the safety and equality of LGBTQI+ people and promotes concepts such as female equality and multiculturalism. The demise of Western civilization is one of Russia’s oldest disinformation tropes, with claims of “the decaying west” documented since the 19th century.
This “values”-based disinformation narrative evokes ill-defined concepts including “tradition,” “family values,” and “spirituality.” Russia argues it is the bastion of so-called “traditional values” and gender roles and serves as a moral counterweight to the “decadence” of the United States and Western countries.
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Spot on man... Glad to see that there are others in GLP that truly understand that Russia is not some innocent country that plays fair. They spend big big money in R&D for this very thing...to twist the narrative, to make Russia look like a very Fair and straight forward Nation...this goes back to the Soviet Union days of course..but make no mistake about it, nothing has changed, its still the same old Soviet Union style and tactics... the true bullies of the world.

It baffles me how so many in GLP are duped into believing Russia as such a innocent and fair Nation..with the hopes that Russia will spank the crap out of the United States in a military conflict. That is what some of these duped people want here in GLP...even some of them being Americans...I say let them believe the lie ...or they are simply Russian trolls
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Russian men have humor and fortitude. Also. Russians don’t seem hyper focused on whether they can wear pink panties while on the battlefield.

What do Americans stand for?

Oh, the right to have sex with, and mutilate sex characteristics of children because of their, “genetics.” These adults were born this way and acting like a predator is their right.
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I was looking at this and I thought whatever, then I saw it is actually posted on the US State Department website.

:clownworld1:
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And it's pretty easy to guess who wrote it.
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Anyone ever find those pee tapes or prove the Trump Russia dossier existed? What's that I hear? Is that the sound of Hillary brushing lint off her shoulder?
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Immature gaslighting of Russia by the Obama death cult. Amateurish incitement. BS piled high. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.
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This week we have Germany, France, Russia and Ukraine meeting in Paris to talk. I am hoping for a Peaceful out come and not a War .
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The state department wants to say God is wrong and fly their rainbow flags...

Thread: God hates America - Fred Phelps predicted america doom

Homosexuality and abortion are sins on America's soul. Dems are saying no to God?
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This week we have Germany, France, Russia and Ukraine meeting in Paris to talk. I am hoping for a Peaceful out come and not a War .
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That rainbow worshipping macron is drooling like an idiot for war. Macron is working to burn France to the ground.
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Thread: Here are some statistics on the cost of living in Russia. I hope you have a lot of savings if you plan on moving there.
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#1: “Russia is an Innocent Victim”
After invading Ukraine in 2014, the Russian government and state-controlled disinformation outlets began to accuse anyone who questioned Russia’s actions of being xenophobic Russophobes.
For example, Russia claims that the international community’s negative reaction to its invasion of an independent country was simply because people feared and hated Russia.

#2: Historical Revisionism
When history does not align with the Kremlin’s political objectives, Russian government officials and their proxy voices deny historical events or distort historical narratives to try to cast Russia in a more favorable light and serve its domestic and geopolitical agenda. For example, the 1939 non-aggression pact between the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany, also known as the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, which helped precipitate World War II, is politically inconvenient for the Putin regime. In 2020, in an attempt to minimize and rationalize Stalin’s decision to align himself with Hitler, Putin published a twisted version of the start of World War II, downplaying the Soviet role and shifting blame for the war to other countries. Russia often takes this a step further by labeling those who disagree with its twisted version of history as Nazis or Nazi sympathizers.

#3: “The Collapse of Western Civilization is Imminent”
Russia pushes the false claim that Western civilization is collapsing and has strayed from “traditional values” because it works to ensure the safety and equality of LGBTQI+ people and promotes concepts such as female equality and multiculturalism. The demise of Western civilization is one of Russia’s oldest disinformation tropes, with claims of “the decaying west” documented since the 19th century.
This “values”-based disinformation narrative evokes ill-defined concepts including “tradition,” “family values,” and “spirituality.” Russia argues it is the bastion of so-called “traditional values” and gender roles and serves as a moral counterweight to the “decadence” of the United States and Western countries.
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$3.50!
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I was looking at this and I thought whatever, then I saw it is actually posted on the US State Department website.

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yes...
OP should disclose how much the Omidyar Network is paying him for this BS...
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well if the state government says so it must be true!

LOL.

those evil Ruskis with their 700 bases around the world.

oh wait.





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